April 21, 2004
London-Heathrow (LHR/EGLL) to Warsaw (WAW/EPWA)
Boeing 757-236 G-CPEO
Gate Departure Scheduled/Actual 0915/0913 Local Time
Gate Arrival Scheduled/Actual 1235/1229 Local Time
Economy Class, Seat 15F
A Basic translation, as not many of you will understand this Basically Flightplan for BAW846, a B752, departing EGLL at 0815 Zulu (0915 local). Filed speed is 442 knots true airspeed at 33,000ft. Departure SID from 27L at Heathrow is a BPK6G procedure, and then from BPK on to the East coast of the UK, over the channel and then passing right by Amsterdam. From there we continue east and pass just north of Munster in Germany. Then it's just straight on to WAW. EPWA0150 means that it will take 1hr50mins to get there, and our primary alternate (1 of 4 picked by BA) is EPKK (Krakow). EET is the estimated times from depature before we enter certain ATC FIRs. So we'll be in the London FIR 9 minutes after departure, Amsterdam 20 minutes after and so on. REG is self explanitory, CPEO's Selcal is BF-DS, Operator is BA (hooray!) and DOF means date of flight, RVR is the minimum runway visual range we need to land in metres, and a remark that we are TCAS equipped. Done!
Takeoff runway today at LHR was 27L, and landing runway at WAW was 11.
OK so that morning the party i was travelling with arrived at LHR at 0630, after meeting in Oxford to get the bus at 0515! I woke up at 4am, but it would be worth it i kept saying to myself! We walked to Terminal 1 departures via the underground trolley route, and walked quite a long way down to Zone K to check ourselves in. We checked in in twos, Tom and I walked up, put our bags on the belt and the usual stuff happened. I then asked the nice lady behind the desk if we could sit in the middle of the aircraft on the right. I did my homework the night before and worked out it'd be 27L deps, so a better view (as you'll see later!) So Tom and I were given 15E and 15F, thankyou that lady!
Eventually once we were all checked in we headed straight to security. It's a bit like a big maze, but a very well organised maze. None of us had any problems and we then went off to shop, but only until 0810 when we'd meet up again.I bought some toffees for the girl I'd be staying with as part of the exchange program we were on. One good thing about the Comenius Project is that all the trips are free . I also bought a plug converter for my phone charger, and a bottle of coke and PC Pilot Magazine.
We all met up at 0810 again, and just wandered around until we were called to board at 0840. Funny, the boarding card said that the gate closes at 0855. Good luck boarding 154 passengers in 15-20 minutes. Actually its not that bad, it was ok in the end. So all 10 or so of us in the group waited by gate 50 (Stand 150) and there was a BA 744 to our starboard side with the RB211s windmilling, lovely jubly!
We were finally called to board after a few minutes, and I was in the queue behind a lady who's hand luggage was too heavy for the 6kg BA limit. So that also took up a minute whilst she had that checked into the hold. Then proceeded down the jetway and greeted by the male Purser and a female F/A. My boarding card was checked and I asked to visit the guys up front after being asked why, to which i gladly told the Purser I was an aviation enthusiast....Tom followed me, tag along Mind you, I'd warned him beforehand that if he did come then i'd go all techinical and he would'nt understand a word!
So I walked in, and shook Robert and David's hands and wished them a good morning. We were all set for the BPK departure, as seen on the EHSI i think it is. Might be the EADI, always get them confused . A speed of 140 IAS was set in the A/T window, which was our V2 speed (The speed at which we become airborne). The standard LHR departure altitude of 6000' was also set in the ALT window, ready for our inital climb. Captain Robert asked if i had began my PPL yet, and I havent, not yet anyway. He advised that the best thing to do is to get yourself seen early, work hard and stick strictly to the rules. Anyway Tom and I were then asked to leave because we had to go, which was fine!
We proceeded to 15E and F and took our seats. Holy smoke, they're so comfortable! All leather too, and in good trim! I noticed that on the bulkhead a few rows in front of us there were 2 pictures in frames hanging on the wall! The armrests are also very nice too, very curvy but really cool! The seat has a superb wing and engine view too The BA 744 G-BYGF was off to our right, with G-BNLM off to her right.
So we eventually pushed back, saw an AY 321 landing on 27R as she passed by parked Concorde G-BOAB. A bmi hybrid F100 also taxied past us, down Runway 23. We eventually taxied on Bravo, then Uniform to cross RWY 23, and then on Link 27 to November to hold at N1.A short hold for a few minutes, then we eventually lined up and the RB211s roared into action....
Rolled past T3, well we were pretty much airborne by then, and then we hit the low cloudbase, must've been about 500-600ft. Thrust was reduced a bit and the flaps brought up, and we banked gracefully left on the departure route. You'll see in the videos later how good the takeoff was! The feeling of the engines stabalising and then kicking into life again, such a rush
Soon after takeoff the "All Day Deli" meal service started. Tom and I had a cheese and ham ciabatta roll, blueburry muffin, vanilla and pineapple yoghurt and a fruit salad. I also had a coke, with ice ... From the hot FA lol Tom wrote a food report, and i'll get my bottom whooped if i dont put it in, so here it is.
"At first i was dissapointed by the choice, either a cheeese ciabatta bread or a ham + cheese ciabatta. However, I have to say that this simple food was, although relatively small, very nice and perfectly satisfactory.
Second was a 'pack' containing a yoghurt, a blueburry muffin, a fruit cocktail, a refresher wipe, milk and sugar. The yoghurt and the muffin were both very nice, the yoghurt with an excellent flavour balance and the muffin quite moist and definetely not dry. I have to say, however, that the fruit salad was profoundly dodgy.
So now I am about an hour and a half into the flight, I have thoroughly enjoyed it up until now"
Cheers Tom Anyway moving on, the meals were cleared away, we have the best Purser out there. He's a complete legend! Just after we took off from LHR he said "you may notice the cabin crew are walking around even though the seatbelt sign is still on. Well, thats because we're insured...and you're not." You had to be there, it was funny!
So we're now at FL330, going along nicely. I'll send my famous form up to the drivers soon and see how it does. Turns out it came back, a bit close to arrival so they said they'd do it once we landed in Warsaw. Thats cool though, guarenteed a visit So we began our approach, pretty much straight in for runway 11.
We glided down to the runway, as you do, and the flare was a bit dodgy and we floated a little. Soon came down though, and stopped very rapidly on the 9000ft runway. We vacated and had a followme car take us to the gate. On the way we passed a LOT E170, a Belavia TU-something or other, and parked next to an AZ 319 (I-BIME). We shut down the engines and waited for a bit before the gate opened.
Walked up to the L1 door, said bye to the hot F/A...wowee. Went back into the office and started chatting to David again. He was very chatty whilst also preparing for the 847 back to London, but I'd imagine they'd done most of the preparation in the RTE2 of the FMC on the way. He said he wasnt completely sure that we'd make it on 11, and we vacated just before the TDZE on 29. He's a newly qualified pilot, and is also type rated on the 767s - as expected. He says at the moment he prefers the 75 over the 76, but it changes from time to time....he took a 767 to BWI a couple of weeks ago.
I noticed there was a slip indicator above the EICAS, something I've never seen before...David explained it was there for when an engine was out to help the pilots compensate with the rudder. I asked politely if i may take a few photos of the cockpit, but was told by Robert that none were allowed to be taken as a result of some new rules. So i had to leave then, as the gate was being closed, aircraft cleaned etc for the trip back...so off into Poland i went!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Time In Poland
Of the two days we were basically there, they were the best. We met some fantastic people, really really kind, caring and friendly. Poland itself was much better than i imagined it would be, and the town i stayed in was very nice.
Sadly, very sadly, all good things come to an end. Three days later on the Saturday it was time for the 5hr coach trip (incl. a stop @ a Polish McDonalds!) back to Warsaw to come home to a lovely, warm Britain!
April 24, 2004
Warsaw (WAW/EPWA) to London-Heathrow (LHR/EGLL)
Boeing 757-236 G-BPEC
Gate Departure Scheduled/Actual 1800/1811 Local Time
Gate Arrival Scheduled/Actual 1930/1930 Local Time
Economy Class, Seat 28F
So once we got to WAW after our coach ride with the Poles we checked in after saying our goodbyes to them. Tom and I again asked for seats away from the group, this time in row 20 on the right hand side again. Instead we were given D & E instead of E & F. Tango India Tango (learn the phonetical alphabet to understand that one)
However, it wasn't a problem because one very kind girl offered to swap it for 28F. Done Mind you that did have its setbacks, i had to sit next to a kid from our group who is almost 13 and he listened to a storybook CD on his walkman during the flight. Haha. Anyway we got through security and all that lot fine. There is a distinct lack of shops in Warsaw, most are selling alcohol. Contrary to the teenage stereotype, i don't like alchohol much. I'm a Pepsi person.
Anyway i wont bore you with us waiting, we eventually boareded on time. I went and saw the pilots again, we have a route checker onboard with us today too. He is a training Captain on the 757/767 fleet with BA, and conducts an annual check to check both Pilots are flying and conducting the flight in the correct way. Had a quick chat about things, was told the weather for Heathrow was lovely, no wind etc.
Eventually left to go back to 28F, this rearmost cabin is in the old style interior. i.e. no leather seats. Mind you, they're not that bad, and fairly comfortable, with fairly good pitch too. I have two windows, one is square and has no real view of the wing, but the one in front does when i posistion myself to get photos etc. I probably drove the lady in front of me mad. click click goes the D30!
We eventually pushed back about 10 minutes late because two passengers had to be offloaded due to Immigrations. Oh well. We eventually departed, and taxied out to Runway 15. When we were lining up i noticed that there was quite a bit of runway behind us marked off as closed. Weird. Anyway, the RRs roared into action yet again and we rotated nicely into cloud...yet again!
Click click goes the camera yet again! The seatbelt signs were turned off fairly soon afterwards. Again the meal service came around, the All Day Deli This time I had a cheese ciabatta roll (ina different type of roll than the outbound), a muffin, fruit salad, chocolate yoghurt and coke again!
Meal was eaten, as you do....and away it goes. The Captain came on the PA to advise us that there is turbulence because we're crossing a 90mph North to South jetstream. We've stepped to FL380 but it hasn't had a positive effect and ATC won't let us go any higher because of traffic. Mind you, FL400 would be the next available altitude, not worth it just to avoid a jetstream really is it!
The jetstream soon passes and it's back to normal for us, I gave my form to the pilots before we departed, but i forgot to put my seat number on it. Tango India Tango i thought to myself. Dammit. Asked the FA as she came past and she said she'd let him know, thankyou
Once again the BA Cabin/Flight crew are a fantastic bunch of people. Theres definetely a certain air about all BA staff, they're like the best of the best. I have to say the food is better on this leg than the outbound, but it's still pretty damm good!
The view from 28F is stunning. Lots of cool cloud formations down there today, and a lovely blue sky. The sun always shines above the clouds, how cool The sunset as we come in over London and the Lambourne VOR should be stunning!
The interior in the rear of BPEC is fairly worn and dated, but in a reasonable condition. The wall by the window has an 80s pattern to it, but seen as BPEC was built in 1990 it can't be that old! A good impression overall, but row 15 is definetely better than 28!
We passed AMS on our right, and also began our descent at about the same time. Captain notified us that there was no delay at all at LAM today, and we'd head straight in for 27L. As we descended over London we had the spoilers up for a lot of the way, we passed Lords cricket ground and eventually came swooping in over Hatton Cross and Hounslow. A bit of extra Saturday night noise for the residents down there!
We came down beautifully past the BA bases too, and touched down on 27L a little after the TDZE, but still very nicely. Stopped promptly with the help of the spoilers and autobrakes, but no reverse thrust was used. Vacated promptly to the right and took a long taxi round half the airport to Terminal 1.
On the way we passed an EK 773, a SK MD80, VS 343s, VS 346, MAS 744, KAL 744, GF 330 & 340, Etihad 332, BA319s/320s/752s and EI busses. I also noticed G-DBCB, BMI's second 319 and newly delivered that Friday. We turned right into the old Charlie cul-de-sac and parked on stand 118 (Got your number!)
It was a good 5 minutes before we got off the aircraft again. Not that i WANTED to leave, because i didnt! When i got to the front the CSD gave me my form back and I had a quick chat to the pilots about the landing and things. I reckon it's better you flare a little high and float for a bit than slam it down and damage the ac lol - bet the pilots think the same way?
Thanks to the crew, because they gave me a huge A3 map of LHR with all the new stand numbers, taxiway labels and holding points. It's a BAA chart too, all colour coded too, brilliant i said, thankyou
Departed after a couple of minutes and off we went into T1 to get our bags, go through security etc. When we got to security i was not shocked, but surprised to see that the imiigration people like barcode scan your passports...anyway we didn't have any problems there and off we went to get our bags...which were out very quickly!
About 10mins later, we left for the bus station and just missed the 2000 bus...so we got the 2030 one and were back in Oxford just over an hour later.
OK now you've seen various photos throughout your exciting read, now it's time for the videos! I've put the takeoff and landing of 846 together and the takeoff and landing of 851 together too (Cheers Tom for videoing 27L landing). Both have a high and low quality option, and the links are as follows:
Bsmalls35 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 5755 times:
Fantastic trip report. I'm new to airliners.net and have spent the past week reading old posts in various forums. I must say that your report was one of the best...and with movies...what a bonus. I take my first plane trip on 5/8/04 since joining and look forward to writing my first report. I will have my camera fully charged and ready to shoot when I do fly. I hope that attaching pictures to my report is a simple & self explanatory process when I do finally submit a report.
Ba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8629 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 5741 times:
Real nice report Henry,really enjoyed reading it.
I've just checked my log for: BPEC(flown 21/12/03 LHR-MAN 6F) & CEPO(19/11/03 MAD-LHR 13F) I think i've flown the entire '57 fleet now it's so small,she is a greap plane,though I do prefer the baby bus fleet over the 73 & 75 fleet.
I'll keep an eye out for your next trip,they do make good reading.
Icebud From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4571 times:
I've got a real fondness for G-BPEC and I'd love to fly on her again.
Back in 1997, the days when BA didn't concentrate solely on LHR/LGW for long-haul I flew G-BPEC from GLA to JFK. Amazing flight.
It seemed such a special aircraft back then because out of all of BA's 757's, it was one of only two that was fitted with Club World down front and economy 777 style seating. I guess she's more ordinary now!
I understand their reasons but it sure was great when BA was flying those 757's stateside from GLA and BHX. Ended late 1998 and don't think it will ever happen again somehow.