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HNL-OGG-PDX And Back On Hawaiian Air  
User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 5 days ago) and read 5718 times:

Who would think a stopover to PDX would be in OGG? Only on Hawaiian Airlines.

The one good thing of checking in early because of TSA regs, is that I got more spotting time, and exercise walikng to and fro taking photos of a n/c NW 744, the FJ 738, AQ 73G among others. I have them posted on myaviation.net

09 Jly 04 HAL40 HNL-OGG-PDX
Aircraft: 767-33AER (N580HA "Kolea")
Seat: 12A


At first, when I booked the flight, I was under the impression that the HNL-OGG segment was going to be a 717-200, but after checking in, they told me it was a 763 all the way. Bittersweet news...on one hand I thought I had my chance to get on a 712, but on the other hand I found it humourous to ride a 763 inter-island. The flight pushed back on-time at 1020 from Gate 34. We taxied to Rwy 8R, and our rotation was quite early since we were not fully loaded. We had good altitude by the time we passed the GenAv parking lot. The flight took 20 minutes to OGG, landed on Rwy 2, and parked at Gate 1. This leg was open seating, but from OGG to PDX, we had to take our assigned seats. We got off, and gave me a chance to find photo ops, only AQ 73Gs.

We left at 1230, with a full load. After holding short for some arriving mainland flights, we were cleared for take-off. OGG's Rwy 2 is a hair short of 7000 ft., needless to say, that does not leave a big margin for error. A few hundred yards away is the Pacific Ocean. You get the picture. We got a rolling start while on Taxiway A, with the pilot gunning the engines in the turn onto Rwy 2. We rotated with about 1000 ft (maybe less) of real estate remaining. The flight was rather smooth all the way. The meal was actually quite delicious, which consisted of grilled chicken on rice shaped pasta (sorry don't know the name), and a salad with salsa/ranch dressing. I supplied my own drinks, XS Energy Drinks that is. We got to the Pacific Coast on time, and landed @ PDX on Rwy 28L. We taxied to Gate D10 while the sun was sinking below the horizon.



Got to PDX early 1) to avoid the long lines at the TSA checkpoint, and 2) to do some shopping (since PDX shops charge the same prices as anywhere in Portland, and no sales tax). Took the MAX from downtown to PDX which costs a whopping $1.60! HA's check-in counter is at the other end opposite the MAX stop. Good chance for exercise. After getting my shopping done, and stuffing my garment bag, I checked in, then went through security. No lines, empty=more photo ops! Again check MA.net for stuff I put up right away.

12 Jly 04 HAL39 PDX-OGG-HNL
Aircraft: 767-3G5ER (N585HA "Noio")
Seat: 15J


The flight going to OGG was full. We pushed back from Gate D13 on-time. I thought we were going to depart from Rwy 28R, but we took off from Rwy 28L. I think we were too heavy for 28R. Anyway, got some shots of arrivals while holding short with Mount Hood in the background. Take-off was smooth, as was the flight. Slept for the 1st half of the flight, until the meal was served. This one was okay...pot roast and mashed potatoes. Flying into OGG was smooth, and landed 30+ minutes ahead of schedule on Rwy 2, and pulled into Gate 21. The flight crew was nice enough to keep us inside with the air running. We even cut our stopover short since only a few people got on to go to HNL.

At least this time we did not need the rolling start, but the rotation length was about the same. The flight to HNL was quick and smooth. I was hoping for a landing on 4R, but we were given 8L (the norm) We ended up being 45 minutes early! Gate 28 was the end of my journey.

This 763's row 16 had no window, so technically I guess it's a window seat, but without a view. You know, the window shade permanently down.



The two 763s I rode were not the newest ones. They did not have the 777-style interior as do some of the later 763s in HA's fleet. All in all, HA's flight and cabin crews demonstrate Hawaii's Aloha Spirit. Their attitude and service was very commendable. Some of the US majors need to take lessons from both the HA and AQ F/A's, who in my opinion are the best in the US. The only other F/A's that come close on the airlines that I have flown on are the AS and QX ones.


"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
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User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5401 times:

nice report!

jeremy


User currently offlineSouthwestMDW From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 303 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5393 times:

Nice Report

The 763 is one of my favorite aircraft. I find it very comfortable. I actually like the older config. than the new 777-type. I like the bins that come down- seems like there is more room.

Patrick/MDW


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (10 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5366 times:

How could have I forgotten the highlight of 12 July 04...

During my spotting/photo spree at PDX, I was stopped by a PDX Police officer, asking me why I was writing down info on my notepad after taking pictures. Apparently, someone thought it was suspicious of someone taking a photo of an aircraft, then jotting down the reg#, flight# and gate#. I agreed with the officer that he had his duty to do, and co-operated with him. He said he's seen people taking a couple of photos, but not on the scale that I was walking up and down both Concourse D and E taking photos of any aircraft I could see. We had a good laugh after all was said and done. They ran my ID through over the radio too.

Better safe than sorry.



"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5331 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Great trip report and nice photos!

Good thing everything turned out fine at your little run-in at PDX.


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5316 times:

Thanks! I'll have another report to post in early November for my flight to SNA.


"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5205 times:

Here are the two HA 763s that I rode on for this trip...

Enjoy  Smile

(L) N580HA @ OGG; (R) N585HA @ PDX

MyAviation.net photo:

Photo © Ivan Nishimura
MyAviation.net photo:

Photo © Ivan Nishimura




[Edited 2004-07-24 07:32:06]


"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3188 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5198 times:

N580HA was the first 767 delivered to Hawaiian. N585HA is one of the ex-LTU aircraft.

My mother did the same routing, that's what had frequent flyer seats available. In fact, she was on your HNL-OGG-PDX flight!

David / MRY


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 day ago) and read 5189 times:

One aircraft I REALLY wanted to get a photo of was a DL MD-90. The livery didn't matter, but I would have preferred the "widget" or "interim". I missed an opportunity last year while in SEA, when my camera died.

I hope to see on @ SNA in November.


This was my PDX Rare Bird ... almost missed it.

MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Ivan Nishimura




"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 day ago) and read 5193 times:

I think its humerous to take a widebody interisland to. Back in 1997 I flew a Delta L-1011 interisland from OGG-HNL.

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 hour ago) and read 5143 times:

Come to think of it ... AA used to have a flight from either DFW or LAX, a DC-10-30, that would continue to OGG. An ex-girlfriend used to work for AMR @ HNL, and would take that flight to go & visit her folks on Maui.


"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
User currently offlineKoopas From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5081 times:

N580HA, although not the newest in the 767 fleet, is quite new with a delivery date of 10/09/02.

Alex


User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4994 times:

Thanks! I'll have another report to post in early November for my flight to SNA.

On Aloha I assume? I am curious to see your opinions on who is superior.  Smile

Excellent report and kind regards.



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User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4935 times:

I'm curious as well. I have heard nothing but good reviews of AQ's west coast service.
It still gets me how Boeing improved the 737 so much that it can be ETOPS rated for Hawaii - Mainland service.


Of the majors I've flown (UA and NW) within the past few years, I'd have to say that HA's service tops both of them. UA would take 2nd, and NW a distant third. That's my opinion.



"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4691 times:

Here are two views of OGG's runways.

MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Ivan Nishimura
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Ivan Nishimura


Sorry, the left one was mistakenly ID'd as HNL. My bad.



"The best use of your life will be to so live your life, that the use of your life will outlive your life" -- D Severn
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