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Delta AMS-CVG-CMH...With An In-Flight Scare  
User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3730 posts, RR: 9
Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7256 times:

After 2 weeks in Europe, it was time to call it a trip. We woke up at 8am & grabbed the shuttle to the airport, where we checked in, did all the usual stuff, took some pictures, and arrived at gate G7 for:

DL 45 AMS-CVG
767-300ER (first -300ER flight) N186DN
August 17, 2004

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We cleared security at the gate (which I'd never done before), and waited for boarding. I watched the pilots plot their route & when they looked over & saw me watching, sparked a conversation. I mentioned how I wanted to go to ERAU, had liked planes all my life, etc. & he was interested. We then talked to the relief pilot who told us that the whole crew on that flight was ex-military...he had flown C-130s & the other two had flown C-141s & F-16s respectively (not sure which did which). He invited me up to the cockpit when we got on (I wasn't even allowed to get near the cockpit on the 777), which I took advantage of. The relief pilot explained some of the paperwork & I watched them do checklists & then headed to my seat (25A). They were great to talk to....appreciate the chance to do it.

Before the boarding door closed, the captain explained some "new" TSA rules about flights heading to the US. The main ones included:
-No congregating in groups in any areas of the plane.
-Passengers need to use the lavatories in their section of the plane only.

Pushback didn't take long & we taxied to the runway. After the safety video played, the Airshow came on, which I was surprised by...didn't think DL's 763ERs had this feature. I saw an L-1011 with a blue tail on KLM's ramp, which was a surprise...especially since it had engines!  Big grin Takeoff took about 40 seconds & we climbed into the skies over the Netherlands & quickly overwater. I noticed some vortices over the wings as we slowly climbed.

Our route would take us over the UK & Newcastle, then just south of Greenland, over North America near Goose Bay, then overhead CLE & into CVG. After we got settled in, they showed their relaxation video, followed by the movie "Hidalgo" which wasn't bad. During the movie, lunch was served....Pasta or Chicken were the choices, I took the latter & it was pretty good. I looked out the window & saw an Emirates A330 flying the same heading we were.

About midway over the Atlantic, several of the passengers & I noticed a hydraulic whirring noise that was unusual, as well as some vibrations on the floor. My mom told one of the FAs about it, who then alerted the pilots. The First Officer who I had talked to in AMS was the one who came back, wearing a vest, which got me a little concerned. He then came & stood in our section of the plane to listen to what we were hearing. He also heard it & called up to the flight deck. After some conversation with the pilots & two FAs, the problem was determined. The vibration & noise was coming from one of the 763ER's 6 hydraulic pumps. The captain shut it down & the problem was solved. I was thinking that we'd end up diverting to Canada or Greenland...not to be fortunately.

Once we came in over the US, it got a little choppy. The movie "Laws of Attraction" ended & "Alias" came on, at which point I took a nap. Woke up over Lake Erie. We flew directly over CLE as planned & started our descent. We passed over CMH & turned to the west, then south again & landed in CVG. We taxied into the gate & just as we parked, DL's N864DA (the ex-Soaring Spirit) plane landed on the other runway. As we taxied in, connecting gate information was shown on the screens on the plane...something I'd never seen before.

We deplaned & as we left, the F/A at the door handed my brother & I what the FO had referred to as a "baseball card"...a small card with a Delta 767-300 picture & info about it on the back. (NW used to do the same thing & I got a card from pretty much every plane in their fleet.)
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We cleared customs & started our 7-hour layover. In this period, I walked around Concourse B twice, shot pics of planes, went to Concourse A & walked around there, ate, etc.

I noticed that some of the PA announcements are the same as in ATL. There's one that goes "In the interest of safety and your personal safety, do not leave your baggage unattended..." with a deep voice reading it, which is the same in both DL hubs. Also, they have the flat-screen information displays at each gate as they do @ ATL.

Finally, after what seemed like an eternity (and what would've been worse without all the scenery of the airport, we went to B15 for...

DL 771 CVG-CMH
MD-88 N934DL
August 17, 2004

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This was the second time I've been on this plane...the other was CMH-ATL in April on a trip to Daytona. We boarded by Zones, quite possibly the worst idea in the airline industry. We were in Zone 7, a change from our typical Zone 9.  Big grin I was wearing an Embry-Riddle shirt, which caught the attention of a Chatauqua pilot. We talked for a few minutes...he graduated right after 9/11.

I boarded & took my seat, but ended up sitting with the ERJ pilot. We talked for a while...he had flown the Saab 340 before going to the ERJ. He also referred to the ERJ-135 as the "Sports Car" of their fleet. He was dead-heading to Columbus for a trip starting today (8/18) to IAD, IND & other locations. He showed me how they did scheduling & the various plans that they could bid for. It was interesting to talk to him.

The flight to CMH was uneventful & 20 minutes long. We landed well down runway 28R & rode the brakes to the end of the runway. Parked at the terminal when we landed were 2 FlyI CRJs, a UA 737, a WN 737, a couple RJs on remote stands & a DL 738 at the gate next to us.

And that's it.
DeltaRules


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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3730 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7156 times:

I forgot to mention that in an interesting gesture, the captain on the MD-88 was in the jetway greeting everyone by shaking hands with passengers. Something I've never seen & thought was really neat.

DeltaRules



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User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7040 times:

great report!

jeremy


User currently offlineBoeing 747-311 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6970 times:

What do u mean he ws wearing a vest?


Come fly with US
User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6953 times:

Great report. I don't understand WHY you can't congragate. I mean, whats the worst thats going to happen. A roup of 3 people waiting for the bathroom are probably not going to blow up a plane! Plus, lets say a kid wants his parents outside (don't laugh, I did when I was a kid and I'm not afraid to admit it!). I mean, a plane is a public place, it is unfair to not be allowed to wait for the bathroom. Hopefully the democrats will stop thises stupid rules!

Also, how was the load to CVG? I have always wondered how they do to CVG as most people outside of CVG and surrounding area do not know they fly transatlantic from there!


User currently offlineCaptspiff From Aruba, joined Jul 2004, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6914 times:

The L1011 with blue tail you saw is Air Luxor. A/C had a RTO and another one when it was repaired. I was one of the passengers on the flight of July 6th.

BTW, Great Report.



mas kwihi cu'n palo
User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3730 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6801 times:

Thanks for the comments.

Boeing 747-311- Just what I said...he was wearing a black vest the first time he came back to listen to the noise. I don't know if it was a vest that he was wearing for some kind of safety reason or just something he was wearing while he wasn't flying. I've seen too many movies.  Laugh out loud

Flairport- It was probably 85-90% full on the flight back & the CVG-CDG flight over was nearly full.

DeltaRules

[Edited 2004-08-19 19:01:00]


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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6754 times:

This may be a dumb question, but may I ask why your family chose to wait 7 hours at CVG to fly to CMH instead of just driving?

Great report!


User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3007 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6752 times:

Also, how was the load to CVG? I have always wondered how they do to CVG as most people outside of CVG and surrounding area do not know they fly transatlantic from there!

I live in Texas, and I was routed through CVG on my way back from AMS. On DL45, the day I flew it (July 8th), there were ZERO NONE NADA ZILCH empty seats on the flight.



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3730 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6540 times:

This may be a dumb question, but may I ask why your family chose to wait 7 hours at CVG to fly to CMH instead of just driving?

I see your point...not really a dumb question.

It's easier to drive an hour to CMH then to go all the way to CVG, although renting a car on the way home was discussed when we got to CVG on the way back. We sat 7 hours because we used FF miles on this trip, and the only flight that we could make on a connection was the 9:00 flight...we wanted to try & transfer to the earlier Comair flight, but weren't able to.

DeltaRules



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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5047 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 6406 times:

I was at CVG on Aug 17 and I shot N934DL landing....nice smoky touchdown!

It landed after 7pm so I assume that your flight was the next one that it left on? BTW, I did see N864DA "Soaring Spirit" departing. I'll have photos of both N934 and N864 in the queue in a few weeks.....

also, just curious why were you not allowed near the cockpit of the 777?

bruce

[Edited 2004-08-21 22:23:03]

[Edited 2004-08-21 22:23:37]


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User currently offlineN808NW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6401 times:

Nice report. I just flew LGW-CVG on a DL 763. It sounds a lot like my trip. I might post a report now that I've joined A.net.

My trip was, MSP-LGW-Crete HER-LGW-CVG-MSP.



All flights have great IFE...get yourself a window seat, thats something no PTV can beat! flew 808 Pacific an Atlanic
User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3730 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6269 times:

I was at CVG on Aug 17 and I shot N934DL landing....nice smoky touchdown!

It landed after 7pm so I assume that your flight was the next one that it left on? BTW, I did see N864DA "Soaring Spirit" departing. I'll have photos of both N934 and N864 in the queue in a few weeks.....


Bruce...I got a shot of the Soaring Spirit taking off from the end of Concourse B & submitted it to Jetphotos.net...it got rejected. I have no clue why I couldn't go to the cockpit on the 777.

DeltaRules



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