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User currently offlineFjnovak1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 615 posts, RR: 2
Posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2647 times:

Just got in from a looonnng day....yet arrived at my final destination on time...here is the trip report

Wednesday, November 24th
HVN-CVG (HVN= New Haven, CT)
Delta Connection/ComAir 5325
CRJ (40 seat)
Scheduled departure time: 500pm
Actual departure time: 626pm (wheels up at 652pm)
Scheduled arrival time: 715pm
Actual arrival time: 854pm
Departure gate: Gate 3 (HVN)
Arrival gate: C50 (CVG)
Seat: 10A

Arived slightly after 4:00 pm into Tweed Municipal Airport, decidedly the smallest air terminal I have ever seen in my days...has 4 gates, two for turboprops, two for jets (although only one jetway as of now)...and the airport, while relatively modern looking, looks more like a warehouse than an airport. I haven't seen a trip report including New Haven yet, so I wish I could describe it better. There are seven flights daily (4 times to Philly on US Exp and 3 times daily to CVG on ComAir), and once you enter the building you see the ticket counters right there...there seem to be space for three carriers to have counter space but the parking lot cashier takes up a counter position. You check in and then to your right is the lone TSA checkpoint- some of the friendliest i've seen...and then you proceed up a ramp, then there is a bathroom and water fountain, and at that point basically you go down another ramp to US and the turboprop gate, or up to the DL Connection jetway equipped gate, gate 3. The amenities at Tweed include a payphone, a newspaper vending machine, a couple tv's, and a snack machine. Not a horribly exciting place to be delayed. Which is exactly what happened...Bad weather across the midwest delayed the inbound flight until about 6:10, so we were late getting out. I had a long connection window at CVG so that wasn't too big of a deal though.

As the flight, we boarded around 6:30 and after we taxied out it was announced that we'd have a 20 minute ground hold. That was the last thing we heard from the pilots for the whole flight. The flight was relatively bumpy on ascent and descent, but smoothed out enroute so Donna could do a service with the snack basket (i had biscoffs) and beverages. There were some pretty heavy bumps, and they just got worse as we began our descent into Cincy. I don't mind bumps but the CRJ i don't like much. Nice though that the seat next to me (10B) was open - one of only 2 open seats on the flight, so I had plenty of room to stretch out. The pilots really gunned it into the CVG airport; we were still pitching back and forth upon landing...at one point a right wheel lifted up a little and came back down...the taxi in was abotu three times as fast in speed as normal- they needed to park the plane quick so they could turn it around to YUL. I deplaned and quickly found the gate for my connecting flight to DTW...

Delta Connection/ComAir 5213
CRJ (40 seat)
Scheduled departure time: 930pm
Actual departure time: 933pm (wheels up at 942pm)
Scheduled arrival time: 1031pm
Actual arrival time: 1026pm
Departure gate: C26 (CVG)
Arrival gate: A7 (DTW)
Seat: 5D

Completely full flight- a few non-revs that were trying to get to FNT and LAN (which got cancelled) filled the open seats...fairly uneventful flight- our f/a Diana was very nice...the takeoff was smooth and ascent was as well- didn't begin to get bumpy until we started our initial descent in to Detroit...more of a rolling bump as opposed to the jerky wobbly descent of the first flight... we had Dasani water and snack basket (snyders pretzels) and a mint before arrival which was a nice touch. Pulled into A7 on time and was welcomed to a mix of rain and snow- 34 degrees - nice that we were a minute or two early...got my planeside luggage and walked up the stairs into the terminal, where down the hallway there was a United flight to Chicago that was 4 hours late to depart- and people were getting pissed!

Okay, that'll do it...altogether a good trip- the connection window made the initial delay a wash....and besides not liking the CRJ I have no complaints - good job ComAir, and Happy Thanksgiving everyone  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Go Blue!!
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User currently offlineCaptain_777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 295 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

Great report. I find it interesting that New Haven is even that large! I thought that Bradley was the only airport in CT that really had flights to places.

Also, I notice you are in Bridgeport, CT. What happened to Savannah?!?!

User currently offlineFjnovak1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 615 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

I'm with a new team now--- The Twins AA affiliate in New Britain, CT (sw of Hartford).... i've been out of SAV since July....

New Haven has 7 flights a day, 4 40-seat CRJ's to CVG and 4 dash-8 turbo's to PHL.... had the pleasure (NOT) of flying on USx on my trip home on 'black sunday' yesterday (got moved to USx from DLX)-- not a pleasant trip- trip report will be posted later tonight.....

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User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2199 times:

great report! i can't wait to read the return report  Big grin

User currently offlineUswyjer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2162 times:

Nice to see a TR for New Haven. The terminal was built when UA still had mainline and Express flights, CoEx operated to Newark, and US operated to PHL, BWI, PIT, and DCA; all from HVN; hence the ticket counter space. When UA pulled mainline out the jetway was useless, but it's good to see that Comair is now using it.
Captain_777: BDL and HVN have the only service in CT, Pan Am/Boston-Maine "serves" Groton, but they haven't flown a flight out of there in weeks.

User currently offlineFjnovak1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 615 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2162 times:

Doesn't US Airways still serve Groton/New London also? I seem to remember they did relatively recently....

Hard to believe they got all those destinations out of that tiny terminal...i would think that during those days it'd have been a madhouse if more than about two flights were loading/unloading at any given time.....

I think HVN could support additional service- I know they're trying to get Independence Air (4x daily to IAD maybe) and also trying to get NW/Pinnacle service to DTW (twice daily) but who knows with that.

[Edited 2004-11-30 07:46:32]

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User currently offlineUswyjer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

USEX flew out of Groton for the longest time to PHL, the flights were supported by Electric Boat and the other industries out in New London County. But because of popularity of corporate jets for travel, the companies no longer needed the route, so it was pulled. GON still gets some interesting traffic, ERJ145 Legacies and other larger bizjets. Independence Air has HVN in their plan pending how DL Connection does. Hadn't heard they HVN is scoping NW out! I was thinking maybe getting AE or UAEx back for some ORD flights. Back in the late 90s, HVN had a lot of service for that small of an airport.

User currently offlineEric777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

Nice to see a report out of HVN - would like to try a flight from there one of these days. I think UA once had 737 service from HVN-ORD. I think USExpress served Bridgeport, CT as well. No one there now.


User currently offlineFjnovak1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 615 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

No Eric there isn't anyone out at Sikorsky Memorial Airport-- i actually went down there one day to check the place out--- there is still a US Airways Express counter there - with the newer logos- indicating that US had been there sometime after 1997 (when they rebranded)....there seemed to be counter space for two airlines or so at the antiquated terminal, although there are at least 6 "gates" (really doorways to the tarmac)...there was still a baggage claim area too....no security obviously, I just walked in. Not too much going on whatsoever, just a little GA traffic. I do know that because of the short runway in bridgeport only prop planes and the BAE-146 can get in there, and the 146 is what I heard United had used there.

United did, at one point, have 737-500 service to HVN I have heard, and props down to IAD....one would think that bringing back at least the prop service to IAD to make southbound connections would work well...no doubt that if US goes under, someone new will jump on New Haven, as US' demise would leave ComAir's 3 40-seat CRJ's to CVG as the only flights there. Delta markets this service all over New Haven w/ billboards etc (my flight the day before thanksgiving had 38/40 seats occupied, and i was told that they have oversold situations there relatively frequently and have started to occasinally sub in 50-seat CRJ's)...US does not advertise there at all, and they fly in there the "Trash-8" prop planes...

The airport couldn't be easier- its so tiny you can lock your car in long-term parking while you're taxiing on the runway (we were held there for 30 minutes and i tried it) - and no need to show up more than about 30 or 40 minutes prior to your departure. My only advice to you is take early flights in/out of HVN, to protect yourself in case of cancellations and delays....trust me, you'll thank me for that advice  Smile

Go Blue!!
User currently offlineEric777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

Maybe the airport is hoping USAirexpress will return - don't count on it. I don't exactly remember when they pulled out or what they flew ( Dash 8?, B1900? ). Service was probably to PHL. I've never taken a ride down Route 113 to see the airport but its probably not worth it to come down from Danbury. If I wanted to see GA aircraft, I have plenty of Cessnas and Mooneys at DXR.

Good that DL markets the HVN flight. Maybe if they do well, they could add ATL.

User currently offlineFjnovak1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 615 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

Yeah the agents there told me that their hope is that one or two dailies to ATL might be added....I think that if US goes down they certainly might add it. I also think that Indy would certainly do well there w/ 4 daily CRJ's to IAD- HPN does very well for them, but maybe they view HPN as too close to BDL...

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