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My MD-11 Sim Ride Experience  
User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4491 posts, RR: 55
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

Not sure if this should be in Civ Av or Trip reports, but here goes.

Found out about the Alteon Training Center down in Long Beach (a division of Boeing) via MidnightMike here on the forums and went down there for a tour.

http://www.alteontraining.com/cgi-bin/db/simdb/db.cgi?db=default&uid=default&summary_view=1&sb=2&so=ascend&model=*&location=Long+Beach&sb=3&view_records=Go%21

I was so impressed by the tour that I decided to go back down for an actual sim ride and chose the MD-11.

I arrived at Alteon at about 7:30 am in the morning and went in. My flight instructor came to see me and took me to the MD-11 briefing room, where there was a schematic of the MD-11 cockpit. He explained to me how everything worked and what we were going to be doing.

Then we walekd over to the simulator. The MD-11, which I decided to refer to as HB-IWC, was sitting on runway 24 R at LAX in the day time. We stepped in and the instructor got the simulator ready.

In the meantime, I got comfortable in the left seat. We then readed the aircraft for take off. Set the flaps to 16 degrees and then I experienced what was one of the most amazing experiences of my life.

I advanced the throttles and heard the PW4000 engines spooling up. Slowly, the aircraft started to move forward down the runway. We began to gather speed and the first officer (instructor) called out 80 knots.

A few seconds later, the F/O called out V1, Rotate. I was so overcome by joy that I almost fainted, but I did manage to rotate the nose of the MD-11 up and we started to climb. The F/O raised the landing gear and we flew out over the ocean.

Raised the flaps and then climbed to 2,000 feet...I was doing all the flying by aligning the circle with the intersection of the two pink lines using the attitude indicator.

We eventually got up to 8,000 feet and then we started doing some turns. I was amazed by how smoothly and quickly the aircraft responded to my inputs. We then put the autopilot on and took some pictures.

Turned back towards LAX, intercepted the localizer and aligned the aircraft to runway 24 R. The aircraft received the glideslope and then the autopilot took us down to 200 feet above the runway.

At 200 feet, we disengaged the autopilot and I landed the aircraft on the runway. I had already armed the speed brakes so all we had to do was open the thrust reversers, which I didn't realize quite how difficult that was. You don't just pull those levers, you have to open the hole first...or something.

Anyway, then the instructor set the simulator back and we did the same thing, only thing is that this time we disengaged the autopilot at 400 feet.

This time, the plane started to get off center so I used the rudders to track it back to the runway's center line. The instructor was amazed by what a good job I did.

Same thing all over now this time came back to 2000 feet and let the autopilot off at 600 feet then landed.

And finally, disengaged it off at 800 feet and this time taxiied to the gate.

I had no idea how difficult it is to taxi an aircraft on the ground with that thing that controls the nose wheel. I didn't do a very good job of that.

All in all it was a phenomenal experience and I encourage anyone that has the chance to try out flying in a simulator (unless you're a pilot and can do the real thing). But for now, I have a special bond with the MD-11 and in fact have the photo of a Varig MD-11 cockpit (PP-VQI) as my desktop background.

Here are a few pictures....








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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2477 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4245 times:

 Big thumbs up nice report! sound like you had a great time there!!! 3 years ago i did the same, but than in a KLM MD-11 flight simulator , i tried to land at Kai Tak!! but its damn difficult!

User currently offlineCruzinaltitude From United States of America, joined May 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4128 times:

Sounds like an absolute blast. I will be doing that some day soon, just a matter of when I'll have the money free!

User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4099 times:

Holy Smokes!!!

Wrong forum, but awesome report!!!

Man, I can't wait til I graduate, so my Dad will chip in the promised graduation gift of a SimFlight at LH... Smile

That is how close we "normal" folks can get...i really feel the excitement!

cheers

dan


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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

indeed it was an awesome experience.

the graphics on the MD-11 simulator weren't that fantastic. i mean if i were to faint and then get up again and look out the window i would know that i am not in a real airplane.

but i had a look inside the 717 simulator (commissioned in 1999), which is the newest one Alteon has in Long Beach and the graphics did look much, much better. I only saw it on at night but there if i were to faint and wake i believe that i might think i was in a real plane.


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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3841 times:

AirxLiban

Send me an email, I still owe you a 757-300, 767-400, or a Sonic Cruiser poster....

MIke




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User currently offlineRodNav From Mexico, joined Dec 2004, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 15 hours ago) and read 3104 times:

Outstanding report AirLiban, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

And at the same time I began to realise that I'm actually not that far away from Long Beach, which now makes me wonder just how easy is it to rent one of those sims? and what are the hourly rates?

Are there any special qualifications required? or can any civilian hop into the simulators?

Thanks,
Rod

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Quoting RodNav (Reply 6):
And at the same time I began to realise that I'm actually not that far away from Long Beach, which now makes me wonder just how easy is it to rent one of those sims? and what are the hourly rates?

Are there any special qualifications required? or can any civilian hop into the simulators?

Hi Rod...sorry I didn't check this thread for a while. Yeah anyone can go on these simulators, i think its $100 for an hour, $150 for two or something. MidnightMike (a.net member) is the one who set it up for me and there are no qualifications required, its just for fun. And I had a great time!

Definitely talk to MidnightMike about it, or also send me an email via the profile, i can give u more info about it and midnightmike's email.


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User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

Hey AirxLiban.

Great report man! Looks like alot of fun! I can relate to what you are saying because April this year , got a flip on SAA's A340-600 Simulator. Now that blew me away! The graphics were amazing! Flying at night through storm cloud with no visibilty and alot of turbulence , I could've sworn I was in an A340-600 for a second  Silly Have a pic in the database but I don't want to post a shameless plug  Wink

Would like to try a sim with a yoke though , the airbus sidestick takes some getting used to.

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
I had no idea how difficult it is to taxi an aircraft on the ground with that thing that controls the nose wheel. I didn't do a very good job of that.

LOL . I also found taxiing the hardest  Smile

-SA006  wave 


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User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

Quoting SA006 (Reply 8):
Have a pic in the database but I don't want to post a shameless plug

Hey man...please do, I'd love to see it!

Likeiwse, i'd like to try an Airbus! How much inseat time did you get on SA?


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User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

The flight I got was for free(We know SAA's A340-600 training captain personally) , an hour in the simulator flying a long circuit around Cape Town. Unfortunately , didn't get to fly with the captain but had some a nice conversation with the Airbus technician who was sitting in the captains seat. (I opted for the F/O seat since I am right handed , thus finding it easier to control the joystick)

Heres the pic:

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Photo © Zak Economides



Been invited into SAA's A320/A319 simulator as well in the near future , I'll post some pics  Smile .

I think SAA allow people to pay for simulator rides. I'll look into the cost for you when I next speak to someone at SAA.

-SA006  wave  Happy Simming


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