United4EverDEN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7633 times:
In October, I experienced something I will never forget for the rest of my life. I am going to tell you about it.
We took flights on America West, yadda yadda... That is a different trip report.
I ended up waking up on the morning of the 17th of October. It had rained the night before and it was cold and damp out. I stopped at Jack in the Box for a quick bite to eat. Afterwards, we made our way to the Long Beach airport and to the Alteon Training center. I went upto the first building and rang the bell. A voice answered and I asked for Mike Comuniello. They said next building over. Before we even got to the doors, Mike was there to greet us.
We went in and got some information ready. After all that, I was taken around the building for a tour. There was some fun stuff there. Once the instructor had finished putting up the sim for us, we went into a briefing room where we talked for a few minutes. Finally we got to the simulator. I went in and sat in the left seat of the MD-11. After adjusting the seat to my heitgh, etc. we were ready to go. The setting was LAX in the early hours of the morning. The plane was holding short of the runway. I moved the throttles forward and we slowly taxiied on the runway. Not being used to the sensitivity of the tiller, I jerked the plane on the runway. I moved the throttles forward and we blasted off practically. The feeling of acceleration was amazing! At V1 I rotated and we started climbing. After getting a good feel, we started to come in for a landing. Throughout the flight, I kept my eyes on a box and had to keep it on two perpendicular lines. That proved fairly difficult. We then did a couple of stall outs and recovered from them almost perfectly. The thing that struck me odd was, that to recover from a stall, you point the nose up with full throttles going, rather than down. After mastering my first landing, we moved on to the 717 simulator.
The 717 was a bit different from the MD-11 simulator. I took my place in the left seat. The setting was HNL. The instructor had us pushed back. Once starting the engines, I moved the throttles forward and we inched forward. I had a better feel of the tiller and moved the aircraft down the center line almost perfectly. I think we went to runway 13L, we held short. Once getting ATC approval, we went onto the runway. The 717 was like a rocket! I was pushed back in my seat with great force. After rotating, I followed the box on the lines again, only taking in the scenery with a glance here and there. I think we did 4-5 touch and go's at HNL. On my last one, I missed the turn and went around. For our last landing, we did a full blown ILS landing in 0 visibility conditions. That was pretty scary, because at this point, you kinda lose the thought of whether it is fake or real, because it is so real. After making a landing, we taxied back to the terminal and parked. I was disappointed it was over.
I did however, leave with bag of goodies put together by Mike himself.
This whole experience cost $300 USD. That was for about 3 hours sim time, all the goodies, the tour of the facility and a helluva good time. This is something I would definitly be back for when I am in the LAX/LGB area. Thanks to Mike and the Alteon crew! Pictures are soon to come!
I will be back in LAX for some kind of family get together thing in Feb. Would anyone be interested to do this with me then?
Ualisthebst From United States of America, joined May 2001, 79 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6285 times:
I've been reading this thread and decided to update with my comments.
I took part in this program on Saturday 12/4/04. It was a fantastic experience and one I will remember for a long time.
We arrived at the facility early and Mike was nice enough to show us around the place until the group ahead of us finished. We toured the simulators (both cabin and cockpit) until we were led into the MD-11. Our instructor explained all the controls and familiarized us with how to fly the aircraft.
We started in SFO in the hold position onto 28R. I taxied the aircraft onto the runway, advanced the throttles and took off into the SFO night sky. I've dreamed of flying a passenger jet ever since I was a kid and it was like a dream coming true. We did some turns, then lined back up the 28R for an approach and landing. After the 3rd try I finally nailed the landing and was allowed to taxi into the gate from the runway.
All in all it was an amazing experience and one that I would recommend. Alteon is a first class company and so are the people that work there. If anyone has questions or comments I'd be happy to assist. I will be returning to Alteon within a year and will be dragging my friends along.
If you have the opportunity to do this, take part in this program!! You won't be disappointed, I guarantee it.
MidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6215 times:
Thanks for all of the great comments, I really appreciate it. The simulator rides
cost $100 for 30 minutes in the seat, Alteon Training in Long Beach California offers rides in the MD11, 717, 737NG, MD88, & MD82 simulators.
INNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3782 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4721 times:
>> Even though I loved it, the MD-11 simulator's graphics (during the day) were not much better than Microsoft Flight Simulator 4.0...
This is because pilots don't need graphics like houses on the ground, detailed rivers and towns etc. for training. They need to feel the aircraft as close to reality as possible, and having the aircraft action as real as possible.
Also, weather and sounds are simulated better than you will ever get it in a PC flight sim...
Unnecessary things like good landscape graphics are left away, important things like sounds, vibrations are there like on the real aircraft.
It's a training simulator, not a sim for flying around and looking at the countryside.