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User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 13636 times:

I decided to make this trip when I discovered that it was possible for me to finally get to fly on the MD-11 without having to pay high long-haul fares. The reason for this opportunity to pop up was that Varig is currently offering very low fares on the extension of their CDG flight to AMS and back. When I checked their fares via expedia.de in February, I was positively surprised by the fact that oneway AMS-CDG flights were available for less than 90 Euros on the date I was planning to make the trip.  Smile. I didn´t hesitate for a minute, booked immediately and received a paper ticket on the next day via mail to my home address (no electronic ticket was available). Expedia´s website also informed me that seat 15L was pre-assigned for me. I checked Varig´s MD-11 seatmap afterwards and found out that row 15 was the very first row in Economy Class (Bulkhead row) so there should be lots of legroom.

After I had booked the MD-11 flight, I realized that I had not thought about how I would get back home from Paris and soon realized that it would be nice to try out Germanwings as they fly CDG-CGN twice daily and I hadn´t flown them yet.
I decided to stay at Paris for two days before flying home as I had not visited that wonderful city since 1998. Checking fares on 4U´s website was pretty easy and I ended up booking a oneway CDG-CGN flight for about 37 Euros (taxes included) Big grin

Until the day of my long awaited journey from Amsterdam to Paris, I permanently had to suffer from torturing nightmares containing Varig 777´s or even 767s. Continually reading about RG´s supposed plans to retire the MD-11 earlier than scheduled and seeing pictures of additional ex-UA 777´s being painted in RG´s color scheme sometimes took me close to a severe nervous-breakdown.  Wink
However, on the day before my departure to Amsterdam, I checked their website and it still showed “M11” as the type of equipment which finally made me rather optimistic but still not too enthusiastic (I learned a lot from several nasty experiences I have made in the past).

On the morning of Saturday, the 14th of May, I took the ICE train from Frankfurt Airport to Amsterdam Centraal (well, actually I had to change to a crappy dutch train in Utrecht because of technical problems with another ICE train  crazy  ). The ride up to Utrecht went by fast and was very comfortable so I didn´t mind too much about the slight delay that was caused by the change of trains.

After a rather short but interesting visit to the city of Amsterdam (a really beautiful one), I took the train from Amsterdam Centraal to Schiphol airport which cost me about 3 Euros and went by quite fast (15 minutes if I remember correctly).
I entered Schiphol for the very first time and wasn´t disappointed after having read so many positive things about this airport. The construction made the terminal very bright and there was not a single place where it seemed to be too crowded. The architecture somehow reminded me of MUC which is also a nice and modern airport with many windows and lots of space.
Unfortunately there wasn´t too much time left so I decided not to check out the visitor´s terrace (I will hopefully do so the next time I will be there) and went to the Varig check in counters where my booking was proceeded in absolutely no time by a friendly dutch agent who handed me my boarding pass which indeed showed 15L as my seat (no free seating like on the CDG-AMS leg, see trip reports of several other users), the gate was G03.

Subsequently, I walked through the passport control (the flight to CDG leaves from the non-schengen area as the Brazil bound passengers stay on board in Paris) and security where surprisingly nobody seemed to care for any boarding passes so basically everyone could have entered the secure area.

I proceeded to gate G03 but found out that RG8721 was going to arrive a bit late so the plane wasn´t there at this point. As I felt pretty hungry and thirsty at this time, I decided to grab a slice of pizza and a Heineken at one of the fast food restaurants (I think it was Sbarro) that offered a nice view of the KLM gates. I once again realized how great KLM´s new livery looks, especially on the widebodies…absolutely stunning  eyepopping . There wasn´t too much traffic apart from numerous KL planes however, so I went back to G03 where I almost jumped through the ceiling of the terminal when I saw that giant, beautiful trijet being parked at the gate…there I was…finally being able to fully enjoy the feeling of having the honour to fly on an MD-11 soon  bouncy .
The airplane was PP-VTP, one of the ex-Swissair MD-11´s in Varig´s fleet (it once wore the “Swissair Asia” titles).


PP-VTP parked at Gate G03

I settled down in the gate area after having had another Heineken at a bar nearby and waited for boarding to start.
Approximately 25 minutes prior to the scheduled departure, boarding began for First- and Business Class passengers and only a few (four or five) people entered the airplane before boarding for Economy passengers was announced. I counted about 30 people in the gate area at this time which made me look forward to a powerful takeoff performed by a very lightly loaded MD-11…I should not become disappointed Big grin

Date: May 14th 2005
Varig Brasil Airlines Flight RG8721
Amsterdam Schiphol – Paris Charles de Gaulle
Airplane: McDonnell Douglas MD-11
Registration: PP-VTP, first flight: 07/02/1994
Seat: 15L


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Entering the cabin, I was greeted by two middle-aged F/A´s who took a quick look at my boarding pass and advised me to proceed to the right aisle. I went through the Business-Class cabin which looked very comfortable in spite of the 2-3-2 arrangement. My seat 15L was the right window seat in the very first row of Economy Class and turned out to be the best seat in the house…giant legroom (for Y-Class standards) and nobody in the seat next to me (not too astonishing with an overall load of only about 35 passengers). Varig has a 3-4-2 layout in their MD-11s´ Y-Class cabin which is a good compromise in my opinion as it prevents passengers from having to sit in that horrinble “E-seat” on a longhaul flight but also offers parties of two their beloved privacy on the right side of the cabin.


The view out of the window, still standing at the gate

The Economy seat did not differ significantly from other airlines´ Y-Class product and was therefore nothing special. However, I cannot second the statements of some other users of this forum that Varig´s MD-11 cabins look terribly worn. At least PP-VTP was clean and didn´t show any signs of age (can anyone inform me on whether the seats are still the old SR seats?)

We were pushed back about ten minutes late at 8.10pm but the purser announced that we would get too Paris on time nonetheless as the flight time would be only 40 minutes.  Smile
All announcements from the cabin crew were made in Portuguese, French and English.


Next to PP-VTP, this rather exotic visitor, FlyAir´s TC-FLM was parked

This cute model is used for fire-fighting training purposes

After having taxied to runway 36C, we waited for a KLM Fokker 100 to take off in front of us before we lined up. The three engines soon began to roar characteristically and the MD-11 accelerated like I had never experienced it on a widebody. We were getting faster and faster in no time and took off just moments after the take-off run had begun…fantastic!  eyepopping 
The airplane then climbed steeply up into the sky so that we gained altitude very fast.


Right after rotation from 36C

What a fantastic climb performance. This MD-11 rocks!


Right turn shortly after take-off

Schiphol Airport from up above

Only a couple of minutes after we had left the runway, the fasten seat belt-signs were switched off and the captain announced that we would reach CDG on time.
The F/A´s, who appeared to be friendly but not outstanding, soon came around and handed out ham sandwiches accompanied by a glass of orange juice (no drink selection on this flight  Sad ). The sandwich consisted of the typical soft airline bread so it was definitely nothing to write home about (to put it mildly).

The time went by much too fast and the descent began when the F/A´s started to collect trash. As we didn´t have to fly any circles over Paris, we touched down smoothly after exactly 39 minutes of flying time and taxied to our gate at CDG´s terminal 1 which seemed to be almost deserted at this time of the day (around 9.10pm).

I thanked the F/A´s and left the airplane while noticing that only about 10 passengers stayed onboard so I wonder if it is really profitable for Varig to extend the CDG flight to AMS when they could let passengers bound for AMS connect at FRA in almost the same time  confused  . Oh, well, no complains from my side as they offered me to finally fly on the MD-11…and what a great flight this was!  veryhappy 

I left CDG´s empty terminal 1 after I had passed a rather strange construction of escalators in this unpleasant building. Once outside the terminal, I was picked up by the shuttle bus of the Radisson SAS airport hotel where I stayed for two nights. Although the hotel itself is very nice, the prices at the bar are pure rip-off…6 Euros for a small beer (0,25cl), that´s just plain ridiculous.  eek 

After a nice time in Paris it was time for me to get back to the airport on Monday morning in order to catch my flight to Cologne. The hotel´s shuttle service worked great again and I stood in front of the Germanwings Check-In quite early (a few minutes before they opened the counter).

After the quick Check-In process was accomplished, I walked around a bit and found out that CDG´s Terminal 1 is one of the ugliest and worst equipped terminals I have been to so far and I have to say that it almost comes close to LHR´s Terminal 2 in terms of dullness.
I went to Satellite 7 where I soon saw D-AKNI arriving at the gate.


D-AKNI arriving at the gate

Boarding began some time later about 30 minutes prior to the scheduled departure time.

Date: May 16th 2005
Germanwings Flight 4U 403
Paris Charles de Gaulle-Cologne Bonn
Airplane: Airbus A319-112
Registration: D-AKNI, first flight: 04/22/1999
Seat: 24A


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As my boarding pass showed sequence number 08, I was within the first group of people being allowed to board the plane (sequence numbers 01 thru 30) and chose the left window seat of the second last row in this A319.

The black leather seats were quite comfortable while the seat pitch was very narrow but who am I to complain when they carry me from Paris to Cologne for less than 40 Euros while certain “full-frills” carriers don´t offer a better pitch or even better service for much higher fares…
The load factor on this flight was about 60-70%, mostly German tourists as well as some French business people.

We were pushed back right on time at 8.40am and started taxiing to the runway where we soon began our powerful take-off roll (however, nothing compared to the MD-11  Smile ) and were in the air shortly afterwards. The weather wasn´t very good on this morning so it didn´t make any sense to take photos out of the window.
The first officer announced a flight time of 45 minutes so we were supposed to arrive at CGN ahead of schedule.

This flight was rather uneventful, the friendly and young F/A´s came around to sell drinks and sandwiches but I didn´t feel like paying for drinks this time. Some nice turbulences hit us in the middle of the flight and soon we were on approach to Cologne-Bonn airport where we touched down about fifteen minutes early and quickly taxied to the gate.

I left the plane and walked through the nice and bright buildings towards the train station where I took a S-Bahn to the city center before catching an Intercity train home to Wiesbaden.

My conclusion is that the MD-11 is a fantastic plane to fly on, especially on a short hop like AMS-CDG, so I recommend everyone who still misses this plane in her/his logbook to take this chance soon before RG brings the 777 back (nothing against the 777 but the MD-11 won´t be around for so long). Furthermore, Germanwings is a nice low cost carrier with some very interesting fares on intra-european flights and a nice hub at CGN.

I sincerely hope you guys liked this report and I´m looking forward to reading your replies.  Smile

Kindest regards,

Daniel

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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3507 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 13515 times:

Your Pics do not work.


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User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 13467 times:

Oops, they actually worked when I posted the report. I´ll try to fix it, sorry for that.

User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 13421 times:

I´m currently not able to fix the bandwidth problem with the provider I used for the pics in the report but I´ve uploaded them to a different server and post them below. I hope it works now and apologize for the inconvenience  Smile


PP-VTP parked at Gate G03

The view out of the window, still standing at the gate

Next to PP-VTP, this rather exotic visitor, FlyAir´s TC-FLM was parked

This cute model is used for fire-fighting training purposes

Right after rotation from 36C

What a fantastic climb performance. This MD-11 rocks!



Right turn shortly after take-off

Schiphol Airport

D-AKNI arriving at the gate


PS: Perhaps one of the moderators can help me out with replacing the links in the original post with the ones in this post so that the pictures show up in the report again. Thanks

 Smile


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 13077 times:

Daniel,

Great trip-report of a fantastic aircraft !
Picture #2 shows the construction of the new Low-Cost Terminal at Schiphol, where soon EZY, Jet2, Skyeurope and others will depart from.
Take-off was from 36C and the place shown off your right wing is the village of Badhoevedorp and part of Amsterdam-Sloten and -Osdorp: great and clear shots ! thanks for sharing  Wink



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 12962 times:

Hi Daniel,

nice report and some great photos - the MD-11 is indeed something special! Nice to read a report of the other direction - most (all?) other reports about Varig's MD-11 were CDG-AMS. I always enjoy reading these reports, and it's certainly nice to fly the MD-11 on a short-haul like this.

Regards, Alex.


User currently offlineBigMac From Suriname, joined Nov 2003, 319 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12853 times:

Wow... Very nice trip report. I really want to fly on the MD-11 at least once. That must have been an awesome takeoff... Has Varig taken good care of these birds? It looks spectacular from the outside.


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User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12710 times:

MH017
Thank you for this interesting information. I didn´t know that the construction next to the G gates will become a new Low-Cost Terminal. That´s certainly a good idea.  Smile

Ndebele
Thank you for your nice comments. I will indeed remember the MD-11 as the nicest airplane I have flown on!

BigMac
I appreciate your comments! The takeoff was really fantastic. PP-VTP was in a very good shape and I hope that Varig will continue to use this bird for quite some time.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5153 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12617 times:

Hi Daniel,
your story sounds really interesting.
I read some other reports about the RG MD11 outbound CDG.
Good job,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



Next: Shopping and sun med style!.
User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 12325 times:

Thank you, Markus!  Smile
Actually I would prefer to fly the MD-11 outbound AMS as the plane will be cleaned before departure whereas they don´t clean it during the short stop in CDG on its way to AMS (please correct me if I´m wrong).

Cheers,
Daniel


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12288 times:

Hi Daniel,

Excellent report, thanks for posting!

Quoting 9V-SPF (Reply 9):
Actually I would prefer to fly the MD-11 outbound AMS as the plane will be cleaned before departure whereas they don´t clean it during the short stop in CDG on its way to AMS

Well, actually: I hope that they won't have cleaned the aircraft when I fly CDG-AMS within 6 weeks, as I hope that some nice pillows and blankets with the Varig logo on it will end up in the bag I'll have with me! Big grin

Frederic


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 12234 times:

Daniel,

thanks for this nice report. Looks like the RG M11 between CDG and AMS is kind of attractive for the a.net crowd, judging by the number of trips taken Big grin

Quoting 9V-SPF (Thread starter):
Expedia´s website also informed me that seat 15L was pre-assigned for me.

They seem to assign this very seat to every a.netter booking that flight...

Quoting 9V-SPF (Thread starter):
I took the train from Amsterdam Centraal to Schiphol airport which cost me about 3 Euros

You should have bought a trough-ticket Frankfurt -> Schiphol which is only marginally more expensive than Frankfurt -> Amsterdam Central

Quoting 9V-SPF (Thread starter):
security where surprisingly nobody seemed to care for any boarding passes so basically everyone could have entered the secure area.

As long as everybody is thoroughly checked, I don't care whether they have a boarding pass or not. To the contrary, boarding pass checks should be eliminated and the capacity thus becoming free should be added to security screeners.

Quoting 9V-SPF (Thread starter):
I wonder if it is really profitable for Varig to extend the CDG flight to AMS

I understand the AMS extension is mainly for cargo.

Quoting 9V-SPF (Thread starter):
The airplane was PP-VTP

Same one as on my flight three months ago. This plane does RG 8720/1 quite often, lots of pics of her at CDG or AMS in the database.

Quoting 9V-SPF (Thread starter):
I went to Satellite 7 where I soon saw D-AKNI arriving at the gate.

LOL, you're making a habit of flying on "my" planes. (Must have something to do with your first name  Wink ) I was on the "Johannes Gutenberg" twice in 2003.

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 5):
Nice to read a report of the other direction - most (all?) other reports about Varig's MD-11 were CDG-AMS.

Concur.


Daniel Smile


User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 12185 times:

Hi Daniel!

Great report as usual!  bigthumbsup  And congratulations for accomplishing your "mission MD-11"!!!  champagne   champagne   champagne 

I can imagine how you felt prior to your departure, I also checked the aircraft type daily last year when I was approaching "D-Day"!  Wink

MD-11 takeoff on such a short flight must be fantastic. I guess the CDG-AMS hop will still be a nice option even after the MD leaves - B777 is always attractive as well.  hyper 


Regards
Udo


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12026 times:

Another great report with great pictures, thanks for sharing it!

I think I will also book this trip to get the MD-11 again, I only had two flights on this plane and it is already 12 years ago. Hopefully will RG not replace the MD-11 with a 777 on this route in the future, I really would like to book this flight as soon as possible but unfortunately I lack money at the moment because I have to book some additional flights to Elbonia for July which I have not planned before, so the RG trip has to wait now.

Quoting 9V-SPF (Reply 3):
D-AKNI arriving at the gate

D-AKNI has a special place in my heart, I had my first jumpseat flight on this plane (DUS-OPO-DUS) when it was still painted in the original EW colors (and when the callsign "Shark" was still used) and I had two other great jumpseat flight to LIS and to EDI on it. Funny that I never sat in the cabin of this plane, only on the cockpit jumpseat.

Patrick


User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12009 times:

Awesome report! I will miss the MD-11.

User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11988 times:

Quoting Airsicknessbag (Reply 11):
Quoting 9V-SPF (Thread starter):
I went to Satellite 7 where I soon saw D-AKNI arriving at the gate.

LOL, you're making a habit of flying on "my" planes. (Must have something to do with your first name ) I was on the "Johannes Gutenberg" twice in 2003.

Hear hear! Flew D-AKNI on August 23rd, 2003. CGN-ZRH!  Smile
The report was very well done, congrats Daniel!

Quoting 9V-SPF (Thread starter):
(can anyone inform me on whether the seats are still the old SR seats?)

Yes, they should be the old Swiss seats! I flew a Swiss Air Lines MD-11 ( *phew*, glad I got my -11 flight, too Big grin ) in October 2004 which went to Varig after retirement as far as I know. From other photos I saw they didn't get new seats!

Again, well done!

Cheers,
Florian



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11883 times:

Hi Daniel!
I have only discovered your excellent report tonight, and since all my questions have already been answered in previous posts throughout this thread, I would just like to thank you for putting so much effort into this lovingly crafted report! I always enjoy reading about your travels and certainly hope to read more about them in the future.  Smile What else do you have planned in the next months?



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User currently offlineAirWales From UK - Wales, joined Oct 2004, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11878 times:

Would love to do the same trip as you - or from LHR - CPH on the MD11. Great pics. Thanks.

User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 11773 times:

Thank you very much guys for all the nice replies. I´m sorry that the pics in the report only show up from time to time but I couldn´t fix it.  Sad

Quoting Sabena 690 (Reply 10):
I hope that they won't have cleaned the aircraft when I fly CDG-AMS within 6 weeks, as I hope that some nice pillows and blankets with the Varig logo on it will end up in the bag I'll have with me!

There actually were pillows on the AMS-CDG leg as well, no blankets though as far as I remember. However, I got a nice set of earphones with a Varig logo.  Smile Have fun on your trip as well and keep your fingers crossed for the MD-11!

Quoting Airsicknessbag (Reply 11):
I understand the AMS extension is mainly for cargo.

That would explain it, thanks.

Quoting Airsicknessbag (Reply 11):
LOL, you're making a habit of flying on "my" planes. (Must have something to do with your first name ) I was on the "Johannes Gutenberg" twice in 2003.

Could indeed have to do with our common first name  Wink However, I think MY chances of getting a ride on the Concorde that you travelled on are rather...err...slim  Wink

Quoting Udo (Reply 12):
Great report as usual! And congratulations for accomplishing your "mission MD-11"!!!

Thank you, Udo. The MD-11, like you know, was a plane I was very eager to fly on, especially after having read all the reports (including yours) about flights on this wonderful machine.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 13):
Another great report with great pictures, thanks for sharing it!



Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 13):
D-AKNI has a special place in my heart, I had my first jumpseat flight on this plane (DUS-OPO-DUS) when it was still painted in the original EW colors (and when the callsign "Shark" was still used) and I had two other great jumpseat flight to LIS and to EDI on it. Funny that I never sat in the cabin of this plane, only on the cockpit jumpseat.

Thanks a lot, Patrick. D-AKNI seems to be pretty popular among the a.netters, judging from the replies above.  Smile I think you can live without having been in that plane´s cabin when you got the jumpseat instead...I´m jealous.  Wink I can only recommend you to book your RG MD-11 flight soon as I´m afraid they won´t wait too long until they switch back to the 777.  Sad

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 14):
Awesome report! I will miss the MD-11

I´m with you on this one. The MD-11 seems to be one of the most popular airplanes among the people on this forum...and rightfully so! I sincerely hope she will be around for a couple of years.

Quoting INNflight (Reply 15):
Yes, they should be the old Swiss seats! I flew a Swiss Air Lines MD-11

Thank you, Florian. That might explain why the cabin was in such a good shape compared to some planes other users have flown on.



Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 16):
I have only discovered your excellent report tonight, and since all my questions have already been answered in previous posts throughout this thread, I would just like to thank you for putting so much effort into this lovingly crafted report! I always enjoy reading about your travels and certainly hope to read more about them in the future. What else do you have planned in the next months?

Thank you so much for your kind words, Jens. There´s not so much planned for this year as I´m going to Massachusetts for 6 months in August (on LH) where I won´t have too much time and money for fancy "just for fun"-trips like this one. However, as Udo has suggested me to try out JetBlue from BOS, I might change my mind spontaneously.

Quoting AirWales (Reply 17):
Would love to do the same trip as you - or from LHR - CPH on the MD11.

Thank you. Isn´t LHR-CPH currently a 777 (and much more expensive than CDG-AMS)? At least that´s what I read here recently.

Again, thanks a lot for the comments!  Smile

Daniel


User currently offlineINNflight From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 3766 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 11755 times:

Quoting 9V-SPF (Reply 18):
Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 13):
D-AKNI has a special place in my heart, I had my first jumpseat flight on this plane

Woah... my first jumpseat ride was on a ( now ) Germanwings aircraft also... again 23rd AUG 2003, but D-AKNJ.  Smile Just had to tell you all.  Wink



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