An225 From Israel, joined May 2005, 200 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7845 times:
I hope this topic is where it should be....
I am interested on your opinion of writing a good trip report. What is the essentials to include in such a report?
Also, I have noticed that in some reports the authors have included information such as load factor data and a/c registration. How can I obtain such info?
Trident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7836 times:
Quoting An225 (Thread starter): Also, I have noticed that in some reports the authors have included information such as load factor data and a/c registration. How can I obtain such info?
Well personally I take a quick look around the aircraft and estimate how many people are on board. As for registrations I would NEVER get on an aircraft without first checking out which aircraft I'm on
As for how to write a report, well beauty, as they say, is in the eye of the beholder. There are many styles on this forum, so my advice is to go with what feels right for you, then see what kind of feedback you get.
On another note, when i fly international, i wrote a list of things that i would like to be answered by the captain/co-pilot and asked if the Flight attendent would mind passing it on when meal service was done to the cockpit.
As well as that info, i recieved a route map, and a invite to the flight deck 2 times (on landing of course) Even asking the F/A's is a good sign.
On a sadder note, u can also try calling customer support for the airline, they can see reg numbers the day before a flt, give u routing of where the plane will be going after and before ur flt etc (Had one of those so far, loved that call lol)
Hope some of that helps.
In a report, and some pics as well, we love pics here
Actually is this forum only for trip reports but I think we can make an exception for such a question.
For me: I really like detailed trip reports and trip reports with pictures (small clickable pictures are even more preferred since they do not need much time to load).
Of course do I click automatically on reports about Biz/First Class flights and flights with exotic airlines/aircraft types, but a report about a flight with a "mainstream" airline in Economy Class can also be very interesting.
I quit writing trip reports a year or so ago, the main reason is the lack of time (when I am on A.net I am dealing mostly with the moderating stuff) but also because I don't include pictures in my reports (to be honest, even when I would own a digi-cam, I would not taking pictures of my meal, of the cabin, etc. although I really like such pictures in other members' reports).
Planespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3547 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7816 times:
I enjoy trip reports with a lot of text, haha. that is also the kind of trip report I write about. I never include pictures (no digi cam, and 35mm takes a lil longer to make into digital), and I don't always like pictures in trip reports i read of others. Some people go picture crazy and the pictures take forever to load sometimes and i end up not reading it because of that.
But i also like to include information about my trip in general, why I am going, what I did between the flights, and anyone i might talk to along the way. I try to talk about the whole traveling experience, as do a lot of other people. traveling isn't just about the airplane flight, it's about the feeling, the smells, the people, your personal reaction, etc..etc...
Johnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2614 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7778 times:
The real deal-breaker for me on trip reports is a lack of paragraphs.
For some reason this REALLY annoys me when people don't break up their stories into nice little chunks, and to be fair, it's usually younger folks who just don't have a lot of experience with writing yet.
This isn't a popular opinion on here, but I can't stand it when there are lots of technical details, registration numbers, what ATC route is used, etc. Like I said, it's my own personal opinion. However, I do agree with Planespotter that the best reports give the reader of real "sense of place," before, during, and after the flight, without being TOO detailed.
For example, the trip report I read today on WN Chi/MDW - PHX had lots of pictures, which was nice (maybe a few too many, but it didn't detract from the report). But the candid airport photos really added a different dimension to the whole report.
Pilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7745 times:
Quoting Trekster (Reply 2): On another note, when i fly international, i wrote a list of things that i would like to be answered by the captain/co-pilot and asked if the Flight attendent would mind passing it on when meal service was done to the cockpit.
What kind of questions can u ask? or what do you ask
Jkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7516 times:
I have been known to write a good trip report, or so I'm told!
Basically, pictures and lots of pictures! Write as much as you want to as well, we want to hear about all of the details! That can be anything and everything too! The journey to the airport, the night before, anything! I find that the more information the better.
If your memory isn't too good, take along some paper and a pen. Write down all of the specifics en route then refer to your notes when it's time to write your report. I find that helps.
RichardBHX From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7502 times:
Well, in my opinion there are two things that make a trip report 'perfect':
1. Pictures. They act as good section breakers, rather then having to read a huge chunk of text. And they tell you so much more than writing
2. Humour/Humor. Whilst a trip report is supposed to be informative, adding humour makes is way better in my opinion.
Ooh, and write down any thing interesting that happens in flight. No matter how small.
BAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7463 times:
A difficult question to answer, it's really a matter of personal taste. I've only written a handfull of trip reports myself, but if I'm going to read a report I will be drawn to reports of unusual trips and unusual airlines. I have to say that I will normally overlook reports of, for example, JFK-LAX, ATL-CVG etc. as the interest factor just isn't there for me, however I'm sure I've missed some great reports because of that!
I'm not necessarily interested in the exact routing of a flight, although others are. I'm not really interested in which runway you took off from, or which holding pattern you were in during approach, but again, others are. Some people like to see pictures, others aren't that bothered as the written text is enough to hold their interest.
And personally, as I don't tend to take either myself or life too seriously, humour counts for a lot in my book! I'm also drawn to reports by specific members because of their writing style, reading Jafa39's reports always make me laugh, among others.
Basically, just go for it, after all, you can't please everyone! Whatever you write, however you write, someone's bound to find it interesting!
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Fbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3724 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7449 times:
Personally I always look for the Business/First TRs mainly because there is only so much you can write about service in economy. Business has more to write about, the service, the food, the seat, the lounges etc. I tried to write a report about a Y class LHR-CDG and got slated because there was nothing to write!
A few things I try to do...
-A few specifics (I'm not too bothered about registration though include it in mine for sake of completion and folk on here who complained about me not including it )
-Not go overboard on details (See here for major overboard!)
"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
An225 From Israel, joined May 2005, 200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7362 times:
Your comments are very helpful. I will go on a very long journey TLV-GIG via CDG on the 30th, which sums up to 7734 miles (12447 km). I am intending to write the perfect trip report which will include the trip (of course), some stories from the ATRS (Air Transportation Research Society) conference and some spotting in Rio stories.
Now for another question based on your remarks:
What is the max size of report allowed on A.net? I want to include as many pics as possible, but I am not sure of the size limit
Vatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1046 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7188 times:
Quoting An225 (Reply 18): What is the max size of report allowed on A.net? I want to include as many pics as possible, but I am not sure of the size limit
Not sure there's an actual size limit, but if you're writing a monster-sized report with many pictures, you may want to break it up in to an "out" thread and a "back" thread, like several on here have done. Write about TLV-CDG-GIG in one thread, and then the return trip in a second thread. This makes it easier on those of us reading A.net over dialup.
A340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4107 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7175 times:
I think that the writer of a trip report needs to express their feelings and personal experience of the flight. It is important to mention a lot of detail as you really want the people reading it to imagine they're actually there, in your shoes.
Also, include pictures, but not too many. If the thread takes too long to load then people get deterred away from your report, however with the right balance it should offer some excellent visual relief and add enjoyment for the reader.
IMO it is important to think about the structure of the report, always end with a conclusion. This will round things up nicely, sudden endings are abrupt and can spoil the readers views on the report.
Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 69
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7173 times:
On my last flight, well, the last one I for which I wrote a trip report, I tried already writing it in flight - that way, the details were still clearer in my mind, and I didn't have to try to figure out what I had meant by those strange notes that I had taken during the flight...
Anyhow - and however strange that is - don't forget to mention in the title that you've got pictures in your report, I actually got some comments by eMail from people saying that they would have read it if I had included at least some pictures...
ManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7163 times:
I think this is a good question for a topic.
Personally the reports I enjoy reading the most are those on aircraft/carriers I have either travelled on or even better am booked in the future on to get an idea of what to expect e.g. I'll be flying EK for the first time in september so have been reading a lot of EK reports recently. There are lots of different styles and none is superior. I do enjoy longer reports as long as they are split into distinct sections or well paragraphed so I can skip certain bits if maybe they don't interest me but as much information as possible is good in general. A very simple tip is when you have finished read it to iron out any obvious errors.
What I don't like is when people advertise their trip report with pictures and then just link to a few photos from the database taken by somebody else on a different day. I tend to link to a few of these just for context but like to include my own which would probably never be good enough to be accepted onto the site. I like cabin shots and any pics that give a feeling for the journey, although too many photos can (IMO) ruin a trip report, especially if they are just endless pics of clouds. The most frustrating thing is when you come to a report which interests you with some potentially good pics and you get those damn "bandwidth exceeded" messages. If you are going to post photos plan for lots of people to view them as if they disapear after a day then I'd rather they weren't there at all.
Finally what makes a good trip report for me is when people take the time to comment on people's work. I think if you read it and enjoy it you should leave a note, even if its just to say great report, as a lot of work goes into the reports on this forum which can seem to be under appreciated, especially as it often of a very high quality. I've taken loads of trips over the past few years and written the odd trip report. These have taken me a long time to do and often drop off the end of the page after a week or two, so generally I don't bother any more unless something amazing happens that I simply must tell people about.
P.s. Well done, we got to reply 12 before we got our first plug! Seeing as everybody is now doing it this is what I think a good trip report should look like
Jafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7076 times:
You must include pics of food.
You must refer to FA's as if they were an inferior species
You must bang on about airline politics, especially if you are ill-informed
You must include a gate number, runway number and FL
You must include a picture of a wing against 100% cloud cover
You must be highly critical of every aspect of the airline, the airport and the staff
Airline travel is essentially boring, enlivened only by the people you meet and the situations you find yourself in, do not refer to any of these things, a.netters do not find them amusing, they only want the data!
The most enjoyable trip reports I've read are the ones that seem to be a keepsake or souvenir of the author's travels.
Even an economy class trip can be an enjoyable read if the reader knows why you went where you did (to give it some context), what your impressions were of the flight itself, anecdotes about the passengers or crew, etc. A trip report I read on another forum talked about walking through the duty-free shops at Sydney airport and how civilized he viewed Australian attitudes about alcohol for offering free samples of the liquors on sale--a detail I'd never seen included in other reports about departing Sydney, and it added a local dimension to the report.
The inclusion of photos can't be underestimated--even a couple of thumbnails of the plane linked from the a.net database of the one you flew can add a lot to a report. There is a limit though, and reports where the photos take over the report and skew the formatting of the page can make it very difficult to follow. Menus from First and Business class flights can also add "that something extra", as there are a lot of people who like to compare what's on offer between different carriers plying the same route.
But in the end, if what you write you yourself would enjoy coming across to sit down and read some years down the road, then it's exactly right.