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Jet Airways 343/AI 310 Buss Class, Security? [48 Pics]  
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2887 posts, RR: 18
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 32767 times:

Background Information

I do not know about the rest of yoll but iam sure like many aviation enthusiast who are about my age,I too have made a list of aircraft types and airlines i would like to fly in my life time.

I have always wanted to fly on the A343, so that i can effectively participate in its discussions on the forum and have always wanted to experience first hand for myself-- how slow can it really be?? eyebrow 

The opportunity presented itself to me when our very own Air India wet leased an A343 from JetAirways for a month to fly AI130/131 on the BOM-LHR sector 5x weekly and AI120/121 on BOM-AMD-LHR sector on FRI and SUN.

My list contained the 9W 343 and since it is gonna go back to its owner-South African Airlines,i dint want to miss such an amazing opportunity to have many firsts--

-First time on Air India
-First time on Jet Airways LongHaul product
-First time on Domestic Bussiness with Longhaul Aircrafts
-First time on the Airbus 343-313X
-First time on the 744 Upper Deck----or so i thought

From the first day of the week, i was checking up flights to see which was the best way to go and come back ASAP from AMD, doing one leg on the 343, which departed in the early morning hours.
Unfortunately of all flights out of BOM on FRI and SUN the earliest return was not before 5-6 in the evening.Having already seen AMD city properly i dint want to spend much time there so i looked for possibilities of doing the A343 on the AMD-BOM return leg.

This seemed to be the best connection,
AI 144, BOM-AMD on 18th July on a B744 which got me there at 3:50 am and after 3-4 hours transit time i would catch my 343 operating AI 120 on LHR-AMD-BOM,
But i had a problem as on Monday there was college and my parents would not let me miss that.

BUT as it is said "the GODS of PLANES" were on my side and Monday was declared a holiday in college due to some "EKADARSHI PUJA"

17th July
I finished my Accounts Tuitions and after much pursuasion with my dad, drove to the AI booking office at the International Terminal, went to the Grandmother type Lady at the ticket counter,
i was pretty dissappointed with her attitude towards me hissyfit 

me:Madam do you have seats on BOM-AMD-BOM sector for tomorrow?
Her:One Minute (a bit rudely)

After a few seconds, while see had been figiting on her computer

me:Madam, i am looking at AI 144 and a return on AI 1....
Her:Do not disturb me, it will cause me to loose my concentration.

After 2 minutes.

Her:We have seats available for the 250am departure and the return at 5am.
me:But i want a return on AI 120
While i said that i pulled out a piece of paper on which i had jotted down the schedules of my flight.

Her:You dint tell me this in the first place
me:I tried to but you told me, not to disturb you as it would effect your concentration.
Her:Whatever, and lower your tone when you speak to me.

At this point i knew it was useless arguing with her, i just gave her that piece of paper and with the permission of my father told her to book me in Bussiness Class.

She was a bit shocked that one could go for such a short time and blow up money just for the sake of his passion and tried to tell my Dad, not to listen to me..
My dad told her politely to do her job as "My son is paying for this from his own pocket".
At this she silently sat down, took the cash from me and gave me my tickets, i requested her if she could give me a Window Seat on both legs---To which she rudely replied "it is not in my hands, come early and at check-in they will give you what you want, DO NOT EAT MY HEAD"

Her attitude pissed me off and when i walked out of the ticket office i wanted to call her a "B***H"., but I held myself.

Anyway, I walked into the terminal building and went to confirm my window seat.
The counters at 1900hrs were obviously empty and I asked the lady at the counter if she could pre-book me on a Window seat., she smiled at me and took my ticket.
However she said that she would only be able to confirm me on a window seat for the BOM-AMD leg, for the AMD-BOM i would have to book it from AMD.
I agreed and requested her to give me an Upper Deck seat as it was scheduled to be a 744,
She looked at her screen and told me
“It’s a normal747, without an upper deck”
 Confused
My look of confusion and shock must have made her think that I didn’t hear her correctly, and she repeated herself, saying that
“It’s a normal 747, no upper deck”

Now my brain cells were telling me to laugh on her face, but I somehow held myself back and with a wry smile told her to check again for the Upper Deck section.  smile   smile 

She figited a bit on her keyboard, and then apologetically said which seat would you want 10K/11K/12K, I told her to prebook 12K and she even checked me in and gave me my Boarding Pass with a Maharaja Lounge Invitation.

Drove back home with my Dad and went for my usual swim and workout in the evening.  weightlifter 

23:00

I checked www.baa.org to see if AI 120 had taken off on time--it unfortunately took off 40 odd minutes late which meant more boredom at a dump like AMD.
I also tried to search for info on AI144 which was due from EWR-CDG but the AI website has no such information regarding flight status.
Then i did something which really helped me in the coming few hours, i printed the DGCA permit which allowed pictures to be taken by passengers at Indian Airports and i would strongly suggest that any pax who wishes to take pics at any Indian Airport carry this slip as a precautionary measure.

http://dgca.nic.in/aic/aic7_2004.pdf

23:45

Was done packing my small college bag with my camera and a few books, i dint eat any dinner as i would enjoy myself at the lounge.

A picture of my ticket,boarding card and Lounge Invitation


Mumbai Airport and The Maharaja Lounge

My parents dropped me off at the airport and they said "we cant believe you are still doing this"
I smiled at them said thank you, then winked at them and said "this is just the begining, see you at 930 in the morning" Wink

Entered the Terminal 2C building from the gate exclusively for AI Executive and First Class pax and was escorted by two hotties  Wow! into the building, after i told them i had already checked in and had my boarding card they left me bigmouth  pointing me towards the Maharaja Lounge.

As i was walking towards the Lounge i kept turning back to glimpse at those two and thought to myself AI has actually done a good job in their last selection process.

Anyways reached the Maharaja Lounge, handed the attendant my invitation and he welcomed me with a bright smile, i walked ahead and made myself comfortable on a sofa facing the televison

the view of the lounge from where i was seated

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the bar area

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I just changed the channel, when an attendant came upto me and said
"Good evening Mr Bindra, i am Desmond, would you like to smoke"
I smiled at him and said,"i dont smoke and tell me what non-alcoholic drinks can you get me"
"Any drink you want sir,"
"Get me a Sprite please, and what is there to eat"
I was begining to feel hungry at that time.
"Veg or non-veg sir"
"veg please"

In the meanwhile i tuned into CNBC and started watching my Sunday late night
regular show --"Generation Next"
Desmond came back after a few minutes, and this is what he brought for me.

veg candies and potli samosa with Sprite

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I was so hungry that i did not even realise that the food was cold, but the taste was preety good.
After finishing it i asked him what else he could get me and also told him that i did not eat my dinner and had just finished a long swim so was really very hungry.

He again asked me if i ate non veg to which i told him that i do eat Egg and i am not a pure Gujarati type Vegeterian, but nothing else other than egg.
He asked me if i would like an Omelete Sandwhich to which i happily agreed and asked for a lemon Ice tea with it.

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After enjoying the sandwich, which was great i walked around and this was what was facing me behind the lounge window.
A SAA 342 getting ready for JNB

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I took a walk around the lounge and clicked a few photos of what was visible.

The music area and the internet cubicals

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The reading area with a good variety of books available

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I then sat on one of the unoccupied computers to check the latest happenings on A.net and logged on msn to see none other than B747-437B online.
Told him that i was in the Mahraja Lounge and began chatting on the various possiblities i could encounter at AMD. We also discussed the possiblity of AI serving "Dhokla" on their AMD flights wink 

I snapped a shot of the AI 744 which was scheduled to fly me that day
the aircraft "TANJORE" which DID NOT fly me

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I then headed back to my sofa, and took a look at the variety of food that was available at the lounge, it was preety decent.

the food varities on display

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All i saw were the words PASTRIES and some chilly cheese tarts
written, and i just had to have some.
pastries and chilly cheese tarts

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They both were delicious, but i would have preferred if it was brought in seperate plates and the size of the pastries were bigger tongue 

It was 02:15 by this time and boarding for my flight had been announced, so i said thank you to Desmond and gave him a tip for filling a hungry guys stomach and finally left the lounge.

No hassles at security only the announcements were misleading as they kept changing the Gate of my aircraft from 40 to 18 to 19 to 20.

I reached gate 20 in like 10mins and sat in the bus and then we waited for 25mins for the bus to fill and the doors to close, during that time i saw an AI 747-400 aircraft come right at the side of our bus--i think it was the "SANCHI"
This is one of the most beautiful sights to see a Jumbo Jet taxi right upto you.

We taxied to the aircraft at around 0240hrs along pass all the heavies--those familiar with BOM airport schedules will know that this is a peak time for International departures, and sure enough i saw BA 744, LH 744,DL 763 amongst several AI 310s and 747s


Got off in front of the aircraft and saw that it was an Airbus 310 brokenheart 
But as HAWK21M would say "think of the brighter side"--the 310 of AI was also on my above mentioned must fly lists and i was mainly concerned with flying the 343,so i proceeded to board it.

Air India ,AI-144

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Registration:VT-EJH
Departure Airport:Chatrapati Shivaji International[BOM],terminal 2C
SDT:0250am
ADT:0332am
Airborn:0346am
Arrival Airport:Sardar Vallabhai Patel International[AMD]
SAT:0340am
AAT:0432am
SEAT:12K, eventually 1H

I walked up the stairs to be welcomed at the doorway with an Air hostess in the traditional "Namaste" pose. and i could swear that she looked like Cobra snake who was out to snap at me at this hour of night. worried 

Inside the aircraft the big belly senior puser welcomed me and requested me to take any seat i wanted to, i chose the Bulkhead window seat 1H, as this would give me a view of the airport on taxi and on takeoff.
the view from my seat of the Combis

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Screeners please note that some of my photos on myaviation.net keep getting deleted. where ever yoll see "no id" written those photos have been deleted??? photo ids 405444,405447,405449 have been deleted. previously even 6 photos were deleted which i have re-uploaded--please check

the buss class cabin on Air India

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It was 0300am already and we should have atleast closed doors, but then the pilot made the announcement
"As you have noticed that we are past our scheduled departure time,this is because we are waiting for pax connecting on the other flight come from Newark and Paris"

Hearing this a few worried pax came from the economy section upto the purser and asked him to please depart the aircraft on time, as some of their family members at AMD were fighting death and they would like to see them before they die, the purser did a good job in trying to calm the two men
down and explain the situation to them, that this was a continuation leg of AI144 and they had to wait for the pax, from EWR and CDG.

The service AI is famous for began with hot towels being given as freshners and a selection of the newspapers and bussiness time magazine.
To wile away some time i clicked a few photos
the buss class seats on Air India

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the not too great legroom on them

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Soon enough the pre-departure drink was served, the choice was between coconut water and watermelon juice.

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I called the purser and asked him if he could request the pilot for a cockpit visit by me after landing, he came back within 5 mins and said that the Captain agreed, i was preety pleased at that.

At 0331hrs pushback began and the safety demonstration plyed on the central screen. On pushback i saw all the gates which were previously occupied by the heavies of BA/LH/DL etc.. and which technically should have still been there if we would have had an ontime departure--All those freaking gates were empty, except one which had been occupied by EK.
the sole EK aircraft at the gates

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We began our roll after a long taxi which took 10mins on Runway 27 and at 0346am we were airborne.
YES-0346am ----6 minutes after we should have arrived wink 

The meal service began almost as soon as the seat belt signs went off,
This was rather disappointing, as i had heard good stuff about AIs catering, but not on this short flight.

meal service on board

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Open cheese and pineapple salad sandwhiches,
fresh fruit,
sponge and jam cake???
Aloo and Kaju Tikki


I dint enjoy the food all that much, but for all the Lounge food i had enjoyed , i could not complain about this one.

We covered the short distance of 465Km in time as i listened to the selection of Audio channels and watched a few Just for Gags which was being telecast on the central screen.
The Audio selection was good and had a nice selection of Trance and Techno music.

After about 50mins we had a REAL ROUGH and BUMPY touch down at AMD, and parked on the wide-open space, and were the only aircraft at the airport.
i picked up my hand luggage and proceeded to the cockpit and was nicely welcomed by Captain Randhawa and his FO. they even let me take a picture of the cockpit.
the cockpit of the "Tista"--thanks to Captain Randhawa and his crew

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I then got down the stairway and proceeded to board the second bus, from where i took this beautiful picture of my aircraft.
But as they say

Quote:
Beauty has a price

.
This picture would also have its reprecussions.

the picture that had its consequences

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Security Issues and AMD Airport

I got off the bus and walked into the miniature terminal building, and as soon as i entered the premises, one of the young ladies of AI or AMD not too
sure, came up to me and inquired if i had taken a picture of the aircraft, to which i simply said,
"I have the permission slip"
and gave the DGCA photography permit slip to her,

After she had gone through it along with her colleague, she told me that the date written is of 9th December,2004, and how was she to verify its validity.
I calmly replied to her and told her that Rules are not written everyday.
She kept telling me "How do i verify this"

I lost my cool and with a Stern voice replied that "Does the Police make new laws for the land every single day with a new date typed on them"

It wasn’t my smartest reply but it did manage to get the point across to her, and in a dimmed out voice she said
"Whatever happens now, is between you and the Airport Staff"

I walked passed the immigration line being a domestic passenger and went outside to enter the departures hall of AMD.

AMD departure terminal and the photographic Security Issues

The check in counters were not yet open, and I made myself comfortable in the waiting area.

30 mins later, the counter opened and i happily booked myself on windowseat 3A. and proceeded to the waiting area where there was not a soul except for a few sleeping cops.

About 15mins later as i was reading Business times, a man came upto me and asked me for my boarding pass, he seemed to be some AAI official so i handed it to him. He scanned through it, said Thank you and handed it back to me.

I continuoed to read and wile away some time, then after about an hour that same man came with one of his senior colleagues. This is what followed.
----the conversation was in hindi but this is the english version roughly translated.

"Sir, are you a proffesional photographer?"
Me-"No" confused 
"Did you capture the image of the Air India aircraft?"
Me-"Yes, but i do have the permission slip"
I put my hand in my pockets to remove it,

"Is this it?"--taking out the slip from his pocket. yes 
He gave it to me saying ,” you had left it on the chair in the waiting area"
 silly 

"Do you have any identification"
Me-"yes"
I gave my M.I.G cricket club card to which he said
"So, you play Cricket for your club too"
Me--"Yes, I used to"
"You have a good personality"
Me-"Thank You, By the way, who are yoll"
"I am the sub-inspector of vigilance at AMD and he is my deputy"—showing his card to me as he said that.
 expressionless  confused  eek 
After a few endless seconds of silence that seemed like an eternity, i inquired
"Is there any problem, Sir"
"None at all, we just had to do our checks regarding the photograph you took"
Me-"But is it not allowed????"
"It is and has been announced in the papers too, but not many are aware, its a good thing you had the slip with you"
 cloudnine   smirk 
Me--"I simply have a passion for aviation just like many would have for cars,i hope you do understand"
"I most certainly do"
After saying that, he smiled at me thanked me for my co-operation and handed me back the slip.

Well i said that’s a close one, but after 10mins or so i saw his deputy coming towards me, and i thought to myself---
"NOW WHAT HAVE I DONE"

He smiled at me and said "Sir,if you dont mind can i borrow your permission slip, i want to make a few copies of it for my records and for some of the AAI staff"
"SURE" i said after much relief and handed him the slip. relieved 

He came back after a few minutes and we had a long conversation regarding the security concerns at AMD airport, and all the riots and terrorist attacks that the city had encountered in the past week and the past year.
It was after this that i understood their concern as a few of the terrorist that had carried out the attacks had arrived from this very airport. And they were just doing their job of being Vigilant----And who can blame them to suspect me--
Who in the right mind would arrive from one flight and depart from the very next one  smirk   smirk  without leaving the airport premise. veryhappy 

Time began to pass by and the waiting room soon started filling up with all sorts of Uncles and Aunties and Daughters with American accents and locals who wanted to speak but could not pronounce english properly.

20mins before SDT, they announced boarding and at the same time i heard the announcement of the arrival of AI 120 from LHR, as expected it was gonna be late.

I was the first to clear the "Hand checked" security as the X-ray machine had broken down, and there i could see our aircraft, which looked beautiful.
You would have thought that after all this.....i went through i would not take another photo atleast at AMD.
But what can stop a true aviation geek????---NOTHING

my aircraft, nice to finally see her after no sleep for the last 20 hours

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Yes you did read correctly, it had been 20hrs since i had last slept and would be an additional 5 hrs till i finally slept, But for me it was worth it.


AI-120, operated by Jet Airways

Aircraft:Airbus 340-313X

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Registration:VT-JWA
Departure Airport:Sardar Vallabhai Patel International[AMD]
SDT:0725am
ADT:0755am
Airborn:0810am
Arrival Airport:Chatrapati Shivaji International[BOM],terminal 2C
SAT:0815am
AAT:0855am
SEAT:3A

I was welcomed by a beautiful airhostess, and i felt as if i was entering heaven when my feet touched the carpet of 9Ws Bussiness class.
I took a picture of my seat.


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Then i excitedly made myself comfortable on the seat and began snappin away.
These are some of the shots i took,

the great legroom present in the bussines cabin

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The back of the bussiness class seats on the "superliner" complete with storage space and overcoat hooks

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Pre-departure juice

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As i was snapping these photos, one of my fellow pax, who was also holding a digital camera in his hand, came upto me and requested me to take a photo of himself sitting on the seat,i agreed and after clicking his requested him to take a picture of me sitting on the seat.

Karan69 enjoying the Club Premiere seat Smile


We began our long taxi and i clicked a few photos of the tiny AMD domestic airport--I use the word "tiny" in comparison to the number of operations and pax it handles.

A Jet Airways 738 parked at the side of our aircraft

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Indian Airlines 320

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Tiny AMD domestic airport

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After about a 10 minute taxi, we reached the runway and began our smooth takeoff.
I do understand now, how slow the climb of the A340 is in comparison to its competitors, but it is one of the most smoothest ones and makes you enjoy your flight. airplane 

An overview of AMD city on take off

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I then began experimenting/playing [call it what you want], with my seat and began to try out various features and positions on it, with the help of the seat controls. Cool

my seat controls

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This is what it would be in a 180 degree flat position,


Unfortunately, the TV monitors had been switched off for this short flight, nevertheless the music was decent and had a good mix of hindi and english songs.

I went through the IFE guide and was amazed to see the host of movies Jet Airways, was offering on this segment.  Wow!

Within a few minutes, breakfast service began,i dint enjoy it on this segment as i am one of those guys who would prefer a hot meal rather than a cold one especially in the morning.
AI meal on the 9W leased aircraft

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After breakfast, i took a few more cabin shots of the fantastic seats and then tuned into the music.
A generic head on view of the seats

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The fantastic spacing between the seats

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As time flew by we began our descent and i captured a nice formation of the clouds, which from the 26th of July would bring devastation and loss of life to my city and BOM airport.


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After a pleasant flight and a much more comfortable landing than on the 310, we had a very bumpy taxi, during which i managed to capture a few photos of the domestic traffic and some international one.

the classics meet the mordern fleet at AI mx hangars

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people who attended the BOM a.net meet will recognise this spot and the new 9W hangar

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A shot of the ground equipment used for IC, some of which were overturned by the recent rains

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IC terminal 1A

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Terminal 1B for the private players being led by the winglet bird which took off 30mins before me from AMD

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Another shot of operations at Terminal 1B

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An Air Deccan ATR-42

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An EVA air MD-11F at the cargo terminal

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An ET 757 with nice plantations in front of it

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Jet Airways winglet bird which flies to SIN

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The Combis of AI just where they were 6 hours ago when i took off

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Sistership VT-JWC

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I then requested a visit to the cockpit, and fter being granted permission took this shot.

the cockpit of VT-JWA

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Walked out of the airport and was home by around 10am, to tell the story to my parents and finally get some sleep. zzz 

Ratings

AI 144
Aircraft--5/10---old aircraft and not in that good condition.
Service--8/10---not too bad for a 50 minute flight
Seats---3/10---not at all good enough for a J class domestic flight let alone the international destinitions it flies to.


AI 120--Jet Airways wet lease
Aircraft--10/10--top notch shape and condition
Service--8/10---preety decent for a 50 minute flight
Seats---10/10--Simply amazing



Hope yoll enjoyed reading it as much as i enjoyed flying and staying awake. yawn 

Any comments/criticisms/suggestions are more than welcome.

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User currently offlineRyan h From Australia, joined Aug 2001, 1542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Interesting report.

However, I think I will give India a miss. The hassle you went through just to take a photo of a plane.



South Australian Spotter
User currently offlineAirIndiaOne From India, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Nice one karan, all details have been explicitly mentioned which is so great given the aviation buff you (and all of us) are. A few things:

The booking staff lady seemed nasty huh. Were u booked business class for both legs of the journey?

The AI144 which u were booked on was an onward journey which comes from the US. Then how come the 310 equipment was used ? Does it have that kind of range ?

The photography situation could turn ugly at AMD but thankfully the staff was polite which is quite rare given the kind of ppl in AAI and CISF. You also handled it well.

When you have paid for a business class ticket, u should have demanded the TV to be turned on. What abt that ?



"You don't have to be crazy to be in aviation, but it helps", JRD Tata
User currently offlineHawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Good job Karan. This is a really good trip report. Gives me the inspiration to work on mine.

PG


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
me:Madam, i am looking at AI 144 and a return on AI 1....
Her:Do not disturb me, it will cause me to loose my concentration.

 Smile You should have noted down the Staff details....You might not be the only victim.Reminds me of the Incident when I was a Young AME travelling on IC A300 to rectify a AOG aircraft & we [Me & another Young AME] met a Elderly Cabin Attendent who refused to serve us Tea In spite of asking for it & served us Fruit juice saying it wasn't our Age to drink Tea  Smile The Older AMEs with Us had a good laugh.
It was only on Landing The Attendent realised who I was & was embarrased.  Smile

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
Then i did something which really helped me in the coming few hours, i printed the DGCA permit which allowed pictures to be taken by passengers at Indian Airports and i would strongly suggest that any pax who wishes to take pics at any Indian Airport carry this slip as a precautionary measure.

Good Show {Bigthumbsup}

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
The reading area with a good variety of books available

Anything on Aviation.

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
No hassles at security only the announcements were misleading as they kept changing the Gate of my aircraft from 40 to 18 to 19 to 20.

Why the confusion.

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
then we waited for 25mins for the bus to fill and the doors to close

Where was the Aircraft parked.Long wait.

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
This is one of the most beautiful sights to see a Jumbo Jet taxi right upto you.

Tell Me about it,Only thing to beat it would be an AN-124 Taxiing in near.

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
We began our roll after a long taxi which took 10mins on Runway 27

What was the delay for.

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
Who in the right mind would arrive from one flight and depart from the very next one without leaving the airport premise

I thought you might meet a suspicous observation reading your schedule.I wont be surprised if you were being monitored from the time you got off at AMD & until you returned to BOM.  Smile

Quoting AirIndiaOne (Reply 2):
The photography situation could turn ugly at AMD but thankfully the staff was polite which is quite rare given the kind of ppl in AAI and CISF.

Most CISF personnel are polite to Pax.Training Workshops working.


Great Report Karan.......
Its always nice to Do what you dream about & Im happy for you.  bigthumbsup 
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 4):
met a Elderly Cabin Attendent who refused to serve us Tea In spite of asking for it & served us Fruit juice saying it wasn't our Age to drink Tea

you should have told her, "Mum, could you please send over Sis so that I can request her some tea".  bouncy 

Karan!! thanks for the much awaited trip report.
cheers!!
VT-ASJ



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Aseem (Reply 5):
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 4):
met a Elderly Cabin Attendent who refused to serve us Tea In spite of asking for it & served us Fruit juice saying it wasn't our Age to drink Tea

you should have told her, "Mum, could you please send over Sis so that I can request her some

It was a weird Experience.At that time I thought.It was high time I started growing a beard  Smile

regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4511 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Very enjoyable report, but to be honest I'm not sure of your routing still. Perhaps it's just too early in the morning and I'm delirious...AMD-BOM-LHR? How did you find your parents on both ends of the trip?


PARIS, FRANCE...THE BEIRUT OF EUROPE.
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Lovely report with lovely photos! Good job.. keeping in mind that I haven't moved my ass yet and still have about 5 reports to come...  silly  - a bit more inflight info would have been nice though, but since it was 50 min, no real ned  Wink

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
with my dad, drove to the AI booking office at the International Terminal, went to the Grandmother type Lady at the ticket counter,
i was pretty dissappointed with her attitude towards me

AIs groundstaff is horrible.. just today morning, when my baggage was declared as lost, I asked the AI baggage counter where I could complain for QR... she didn't even look in my face, as she was busy phoning with a friend.. I could tell many other stories but will refrain now.. staff in the caibn was n ice though

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
i printed the DGCA permit which allowed pictures to be taken by passengers at Indian Airports and i would strongly suggest that any pax who wishes to take pics at any Indian Airport carry this slip as a precautionary measure.

It is a pain n the butt.. before I travelled to NBO, they denied me taking photos in the terminal.. nice you had the slip along (though I doubt that the people who prohibited it probably wouldn't have understood it). Hillarious story in AMD, but a shame they do not nstruct their staff and do not have the material themselves.. stupid GOI-AAI

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
As i was walking towards the Lounge i kept turning back to glimpse at those two and thought to myself AI has actually done a good job in their last selection process.

I concur.. there are some real hotties, man!  bigthumbsup 

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
Got off in front of the aircraft and saw that it was an Airbus 310

now don't tell me it came from a intercontinental..  Smile

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
Seats---3/10---not at all good enough for a J class domestic flight let alone the international destinitions it flies to.

AIs J class on the 310 is horrible.. when I boarded my last 310, I thought: "What a bad economy class as compared to SQ".. then only I realized it was J! Their seats on the 744s look neat though.. still, no businessman would select them (only if the flight is significantly cheaper,,)

Keep on going with there reports! Good job


User currently offlineBigMac From Suriname, joined Nov 2003, 319 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Wow Karan69, nice trip report. Glad you enjoyed yourself to the max. Also glad to see that I'm not the only "nut" that books flights just to fly on a certain aircraft.

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
“It’s a normal747, without an upper deck”

This cracked me up... So funny...



To fly, or not to fly: that is the question
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 8):
Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
i printed the DGCA permit which allowed pictures to be taken by passengers at Indian Airports and i would strongly suggest that any pax who wishes to take pics at any Indian Airport carry this slip as a precautionary measure.

It is a pain n the butt.. before I travelled to NBO, they denied me taking photos in the terminal.. nice you had the slip along (though I doubt that the people who prohibited it probably wouldn't have understood it). Hillarious story in AMD, but a shame they do not nstruct their staff and do not have the material themselves

Karan....Personally I feel you were very Lucky to get the Security guys to believe your story since you had clicked the Photo on the Tarmec which is still restricted Area for Photographs.Guess The Security guys never read the circular properly  Smile or never seen the Pic on your camera.

Currently Aerodrome Photos inside Terminal Bldng are permitted & As a Scheduled Pax in aircraft can take pictures from Inside the Aircraft of the Insides or outsides from the Aircraft.


I hope they change the rule soon.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2887 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting AirIndiaOne (Reply 2):
Were u booked business class for both legs of the journey?

YES

Quoting AirIndiaOne (Reply 2):
Then how come the 310 equipment was used ? Does it have that kind of range ?

The flight was delayed from EWR-CDG as usual, hence they wanted to leave for AMD asap, thats why they accomodated the pax on a spare A310, i actually do not know much more than that.AIs website says 744 for many domestic routes, but i believe EQV change is quite common.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 4):
Where was the Aircraft parked.Long wait.

Line MX area, where the 777 was parked, when she first came, see the picture of the combis, just at the side of that.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 4):
Its always nice to Do what you dream about & Im happy for you

Glad to know i have your support

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 7):
Very enjoyable report, but to be honest I'm not sure of your routing still. Perhaps it's just too early in the morning and I'm delirious...AMD-BOM-LHR?

I think it is too early in the morning wink , my routing was BOM-AMD-BOM.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
Currently Aerodrome Photos inside Terminal Bldng are permitted & As a Scheduled Pax in aircraft can take pictures from Inside the Aircraft of the Insides or outsides from the Aircraft.

This line itself as written on the slip is confusing, and hence you can get away with it if you are good in conversation and your lucky.

Here are the remaining picture which had been deleted

The Combis parked at the side of my arcraft

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Photo © Karan Bindra



EK 330

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Meal on AI 144

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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 11):
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 4):
Its always nice to Do what you dream about & Im happy for you

Glad to know i have your support

As long as the Pic & TRs keep flowing  bigthumbsup 
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Btw, has the wetlease been extended, or will the routes served by AI744 again? Just wondering whether mrs Nancy from Jet USA has put down her claims.. is 9W permitted to serve the states now? If not, what is going on with the 343 of 9W? Thx!

User currently offlineAirIndiaOne From India, joined Mar 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 13):
what is going on with the 343 of 9W?

The last time I was around the spotting area at BOM on 5th Aug, i happened to see the VT-JWC A343 arrive at around 11:30 am. It has its own callsign.
Also saw the other 2 343's parked at the intl apron.



"You don't have to be crazy to be in aviation, but it helps", JRD Tata
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 13):
is 9W permitted to serve the states now

Yeah whats happening on that front.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2887 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 13):
Btw, has the wetlease been extended, or will the routes served by AI744 again?

No extention of the wet lease, and yes the AI 744s probably must have got back to scheduled service

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 13):
is 9W permitted to serve the states now? If not, what is going on with the 343 of 9W? Thx!

The case is still going on round and round the bush,afaik-

the spare 343s is now the reason why 9W is looking to increase flights to LHR,
make BOM 2x and DEL 1x

Hope this helps,

[Edited 2005-08-10 21:50:50]

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2887 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (8 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 32767 times:

Whats the update on Jet Airways plans to USA

User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8527 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 32396 times:
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Nice report & photo's.

The number of TR's from India is increasing which is nice, however even nicer is this one had photo's, very nice.

Regarding the lady in the ticket office, i'd have put a complaint in about here, very bad manners, almost unreal!

A possible blessing in disguise getting the 310, a great many people have yet to fly one and might never get the chance.

Keep 'em comming.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 32023 times:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 18):
Regarding the lady in the ticket office, i'd have put a complaint in about here, very bad manners, almost unreal!

Nothing will happen with AI.. Believe me, Air Babu India has no working culture on the ground. I have had episodes where I felt I should trash my mobile on the forehad of the concerned person

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 18):
A possible blessing in disguise getting the 310, a great many people have yet to fly one and might never get the chance.

I somehow agree.. have a look at my TR in that regard  Wink


User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2392 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 31887 times:

Thanks for the report!

I enjoyed especially, because I just sat in that lounge few days ago in BOM in the very couch on the left side of the picture, just opposite to the bar.

BTW, you din't even have to mention you wanten a non-alcoholic drink, on the menu's the distribute it states " alcoholic beverages for our international passengers only". Shame, really....

I also got a picture of my AI's 744 from the window, but I did it in the bathroom, much better view, hehe. (Came back to BOM on AI 310, yuck)

Best regards,
LO231

PS Trip report will follow.



Got both LO 788 frames already, next LO E95 and 734 BRU-WAW-BRU
User currently offlineAnandt From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 31029 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Thread starter):
She was a bit shocked that one could go for such a short time and blow up money just for the sake of his passion and tried to tell my Dad, not to listen to me..

Thats why I think AI has personality  Smile Morover in an other sense at least she "cared abt the money factor" and wasnt just concerned with taking ur money off.

Good rep by the way. Keep it up!


User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2887 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 29658 times:

Quoting BigMac (Reply 9):
Also glad to see that I'm not the only "nut" that books flights just to fly on a certain aircraft.

Nice to know that i have people all over the world who are "nuts" like me when it comes to aviation

Quoting LO231 (Reply 20):
I also got a picture of my AI's 744 from the window, but I did it in the bathroom, much better view, hehe

So did i take the one of the SAA 342, nice view aint it.

Stay tuned for two more trip reports coming very soon with many pics as usual

SQ, BOM-SIN-HKG-BOM

CX, BOM-BKK-BOM


User currently offlineDesiguy2447 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 29458 times:

I'll be posting a trip report on Jet Airways which I'm flying from LHR to Mumbai then Jet Airways domestic from Mumbai to Delhi. (Flying Feb 12). Then
Jet Airways DEL to LHR (FEB24th) Flying Business class on Jet Airways.

Using Northwest to get from the USA to LGW, and back also in Business class.
Will be doing a Airport transfer between LGW TO LHR, and LHR to LGW.


User currently offlineVivekman2006 From India, joined May 2006, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days ago) and read 26645 times:

Neat report Karan! and great pics  Smile

25 Karan69 : Thanks mate, did you do the same hopping flight as you said you would using the 743 aircraft on AI flying the same route Karan[Edited 2006-08-07 14:2
26 HAWK21M : So Karan.Whats Transpiring about You folks proposed Roaming Flight. regds MEL
27 Karan69 : Yeah been proposing one to DEL to have a chance to fly the Combi and perhaps meet the DEL A.netter. BTW, Vivek flew to AMD on this weekend he was sch
28 AirIndia : looking forward to it guys.... On the 11th of Aug (the day after the london terror attack aversion) I was boarding a flight to BOM from CCU. I was qu
29 Karan69 : I wish any of of us knew the answer to that one. Mate if not a Trip Report atleast tell us about your experience on that trip you win to TPE in buss
30 AirIndia : I am planning to go ini Dec. Will def post a TR. Will also post a TR on MH 330 this month, i am going to KUL....
31 Karan69 : That one will be an interesting one, nver read a report of a Chinese[Taiwanese] carrier on their new product in Biz class. Very exciting indeed since
32 HAWK21M : Looking fwd to that Guru. regds MEL
33 Post contains images Justbala : namaste to the aunty-ji!! I like ur spirit buddy!! Hope u had a gr8 flight .. btw I didnt realize tht 9W had intnl service out of AMD .. i thot it wa
34 Post contains links Karan69 : They dont serve AMD on the international front the aircraft as i clearly mentioned was wet leased to AI and was operating on behalf of Air India Rece
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