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AV And LP: Trip To Peru. (Pics)  
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13136 times:

Vacation in Peru: AV and LP.

Trip background:

We wanted to do a short and cheap trip somewhere near as my dad is about to start his campaign for the Senate in the period of 2006-2010. So after looking at options such as Atlanta, Costa Rica, Curazao and Aruba, we looked in deskubra.net (AV´s tour operator) and found a package to Peru for only $1.099 per person. it included air tickets for BOG-LIM-BOG and LIM-CUZ-LIM, hotels, visit to Macchu Picchu and city tours in both Lima and Cusco.

So after lots of hassle with the inefficient Deskubra staff (hear AV!), we got our tickets. We would fly to LIM in July the 2nd, then to CUZ in July 4th, back to LIM July 6th and back to BOG July 8th.

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2 July 2005
AV0075
Bogotá (BOG) – Lima (LIM)
Aircraft Scheduled: 767-300ER
Aircraft used: 757-200 EI-CEY (new livery)
Gate in Bog: C5
Gate in LIM: 19
Scheduled Departure Time: 21:35PM (July 2nd)
Actual Departure Time: 00:32AM (July 3rd)
Scheduled Arrival Time: 1:30AM
Actual Arrival Time: 2:39AM
Seat: 29 something
Load: 100%


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The first of July after packing our bags, i looked into avianca.com, and the flight was changed to a 757. Hmmm, aircraft shortage, not an uncommon sight for Colombian airlines. The 2nd of July in the morning, my mom got a call from AV telling her the new departure time was 12:00am. Oh well, at least they called. Tough my parents were really pissed off.
Well, at 9:20pm we left home and took the usual route 1A Avenue (Rosales)- Circunvalar Avenue-26th street-ElDorado Avenue and we arrived to the airport 20 minutes later at 9:40. The line for LIM was long but fast, but we saw that the line for JFK was impossible, as people have to go through a security questioning and then tax paying. Anyway, we were checked in and mile-accrued in 15 minutes and went up to see in the monitors that all flights had a thirty minute delay. That meant AV JFK was now to depart at 00:25, LB to LPB/VVI was for 00:05 and we were scheduled for 00:30, my dad got so pissed off that he had to sit in El corral and have a milkshake to calm down...and he struggles to lose weight...
We went to immigration at 11:20 and passed quickly thanks to my parent´s official passports.Of course, the in-bond was completely closed and we passed to the boarding room, which was gate 4 this time, the LB flight was departing from gate 1 and the AV flight to JFK was departing from gate 3, the beautiful 85 años 767-300ER was already boarding. There was a little table with sandwiches and beverages as there were a lot of tired connecting passengers from AXM, CTG, CCS and MIA.
My sister got a little sick and the very king AV staff brought her soda and a wheelchair. At 11:45, the 757 arrived from FLL. It was quiclky cleaned and boarding started at 00:10. Biz class passengers boarded and then the 3 different groups boarded in and orderly way, and we boarded last with my sick sister and a bunch of old ladies. The hottest flight attendant I have ever seen helped us to our seats (they were all separated) but oh i dindint care a bit...util I got to mine. I was the middle seat in the left side of row 25, between a lady in her 50s and an old grumpy guy...oh my god no! I thought, so I got seated.

Soon the door was closed and we started pushback. The crew presented themselves (the 2 pilots and 6 FAs) and apologized for the delay, then wished us a nice trip to Peru “Or where your traveling needs take you” as they always say and strangely did the safety demonstration by hand.

We turned into 13L and did a powerful 50 second takeoff. The captain came on the PA and said the estimated flight time would be 2hrs05min (short!), the cruising altitude would be FL360, and thanks to a strong tailwind we would be flying at 915km/ph, and that we would be overfling Quito, then Trujillo and after we would border the Pacific ocean and land in LIM.

As soon as the announcements were made, the FA´s distributed the new style headphones (much better then the ones i got last year) and hot towels. I unwrapped the blanket and pillow and prepared to rest a little and listen to music when suddenly the old lady takes my headphones off and starts talking to me about the story of her life. I put attention to this rude lady for some 15 minutes and thankfully i smell food. Soon the cart passed and the sexy FA told me the choice for tonight:

Curry Chicken Wrap, Thai Salad and a bun with the usual in flight beverages (Postobon products, coffee or tea, tutti Frutti juices and water)

Or

Thai Rice, Mango Salad and a bun with the beverage.

And for Dessert

Manjar Blanco from Valle del Cauca, as part of the Colombia Dulce campaign which is sponsored by AV.

I went for the thai rice and the lady went for the curry wrap. Well, both were very good from her point of view and my rice was nice, and the dessert rocked as always with the Colombia Dulce sweets.

While I was eating the movie started, something called “5 children and their special friend” so i decided I would read the mag. It had an interesting article about New York, plus they had not removed the June issue from my seat and it had an article on Peru.

Just as I opened it, the lady closed it and started talking to me again, though this time about Lima so it was quite interesting. The inflight duty free catalog was passed to each passenger and I bought a box of godiva chocolates.

When I realised, we were already 1:45hrs into the flight and the captain came on the PA: “Señores pasajeros, hemos iniciado nuestro descenso al aeropuerto Jorge Chávez de la ciudad de Lima, por favor les rogamos apagar todos los aparatos electrónicos que estén prendidos, enderezar sus sillas y abrocharse el cinturón, gracias por escoger Avianca como su aerolínea para este viaje” then he said it in english, “Fellow passengers, we have started our descent into Jorge Chavez airport in the city of Lima, we cordially ask you to turn off any electronic devices, straighten your chair and fasten your seatbelts, thank you for choosing Avianca as your airline for this trip”.

Then came the beep and I felt the plane´s nose go down, the lady next to me told me LIM was very beautiful b/c they had remodelled it and then the flight attendants came on the PA. “Señores pasajeros, estamos proximos a aterrizar, les rogamos doblar sus cobijas, abrir las ventanas y asegurar sus mesas de servicio, gracias” and in english “Ladies and gentlemen, we cordially ask you to wrap your blankets, open your window and lock the service table in front of you”.

The the lights of El Callao appeared and the FAs quickly passed for trash and without we bumped into LIM (yes, it wasnt nice) and slowed down. The crew gave the welcome to your destination “Or where your traveling needs take you” speech and we parked in gate 19, next to a LAN A340 the was probably going to LAX. Said goodbye to the lady and disembarked. Seconds later, an Air Madrid A330 arrived (it had blue engines?) full of PAX from MAD. When we arrived to immigration, we went to the official desk and it was INEFFICIENT, they had to stamp the passports and write stuff manually, so we were there like 20 minutes. Anyway, we picked our bags in the nice baggage claim and outside the tour operator was waiting for us. They took us to Sol de Oro hotel in Miraflores and we passed the night there. The next day we did a city tour around Lima, beautiful city i must say, very a la par with Bogota, only Bogota having more entertainment options and we are more modern and progressive.

The day after, we took flight LP027 to CUZ.


LP027
LIM-CUZ
Aircraft Scheduled: Airbus A320
Aircraft used: Airbus A320 CC-COI (new livery, previously with LANexpress)
Scheduled Departure: 11:20AM
Estimated Departure: 11:27AM
GATE IN LIM: 13
GATE IN CUZ: Used the stairs
Scheduled Arrival: 12:35PM
Arrival: 12:37PM
Seat: 24K
Load: 99%


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The travel agency had currently put us aboard LP021, that departed aruond 7:00am, so we woke up around 4 to find out that they had left a tiny message in the door saying we were on LP027 departing at 11:20. We were pissed off but so tired that we only tried to sleep a little more. Finally, woke up at 7:30, arranged everything and went to the lobby. We had out brakefast and at 8:45 the Viajes Pacifico tour operator) bus was wainting for us. We got on and arrived to LIM almost at 10. When we got to the LP counter, the line was impossible.

We waited in the line for like 20 minutes, as there were flights to Arequipa, Juliaca and Cusco (us) departing. We were finnally called to the last counter in the right side of the area and we were checked-in by a very funny peruvian lady who kept joking.



Boarding Pass.

We then proceeded to the second floor, passed security and went to gate 13, which btw is the only domestic jetway? Pls confirm...an Airbus A320 arrived from somewhere and deplaned, but i couldnt see the registration of the plane. Later they announced it was our ride to CUZ. When it was 11:00, boarding for group A and people with children and special needs was announced. As we were in the last row of the aircraft, we were group A and we boarded. There were 3 flight attendants in their late 20s and the purser who was like in her mid-40s. One of them was good looking, but nothing like the FA on the BOG-LIM flight. We took our seats which were in the very last row of the plane and then other oax started boarding, it took like 15 minutes and then the door was closed. They crew presented themselves and the safety video was shown, and when i realized, we hadn't even left the gate! Every other airline i have been on does this announcements while taxiing....but well, we pushed back and went to the runway, there was an A319 and a 767 in front of us and a Taca Peru A320 was tlanding. It was already 11:25 when it was out turn for takeoff. We waited a little in the runway and then the IAE engines started the typical takeoff sound. Even if we were full, due to LIM´s humidity and sea-level circumstances, we were off in 25 seconds. The routing we would follow was going to be LIM-Andes-CUZ on a straight line, cruising at FL330.

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Pushback at LIM, Adamair 732 on the ground. Which airline did it belong to? Nuevo Continente i bet....

We leveled like 15 minutes before and service started. As this plane had no biz class (ex Lan Express), the 3 attendants finished the service shortly, serving us warm cheese and ham sandwiched and a plate of fruit and a drink. I must say, nice service for a 1 hr flight. After i took the IN magazine which was talking about classic cars or something but it was LAME, so i just passed the rest of the flight staring out the window.

The Peruvian andes are very imponent but very desertic, but it was a nice sight. Some time after we pointed our nose down and they announced we were going to land in CUZ. Some minutes later i saw the city and the airport. We made some big turns and passed through the side of a hill and then lined up with the runway. Touchdown was very smooth but we kept on braking for like 50 seconds. Then we stopped and in the taxiway I saw a TANS 732 with “Tan peruanos como tú” titles (read: we hate you TA and LA) and in the ramp there was a company A320 CC-COM and a Star Peru 732.

We deplaned by the stairs and entered the airport to the luggage pick-up and there was a band playing andean music while we picked our bags. Nice touch CUZ! I must say the airport is very old but well kept (reminded me of BOG somehow), clean and with nice spaces judging by the number of flights it gets. So, after that we exited and the tour operator took us to our hotel (Novotel Cusco).

In the next part I have the stay in CUZ and the return flights.


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
23 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13100 times:

Nice report! It is always nice tp have reports on some airlines you don't read too much on anet! by the way, silly question: LP and LA.. do tehy belong to the "same consortium" (logo on the boarding passs looks familiar), or does Lan simply mean "air" in spanish? Sorry about my ignorance  innocent 

Quoting RCS763AV (Thread starter):
Curry Chicken Wrap



Quoting RCS763AV (Thread starter):
Thai Rice, Mango Salad

I see "our Indian Food" either has made it to you (Curry!), or it is similar to yours - Latinos and Indians share more than it is apparent in the first instance!  Wink

Thanks for this report!


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13063 times:

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 1):
Nice report! It is always nice tp have reports on some airlines you don't read too much on anet! by the way, silly question: LP and LA.. do tehy belong to the "same consortium" (logo on the boarding passs looks familiar), or does Lan simply mean "air" in spanish? Sorry about my ignorance

No, LAN means Latin Airline Network. LAN is a consortium that has operations in Chile, Peru, Ecuador and Argentina, and wants to start flying in Brasil, Venezuela and Colombia. Air in spanish is Aire, and airlines use the word Aero to refer to Air in their names (IE: AeroMexico or AeroRepublica)

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 1):
I see "our Indian Food" either has made it to you (Curry!), or it is similar to yours - Latinos and Indians share more than it is apparent in the first instance!

It made it here a LONG time ago.  

BTW: Thanx!

[Edited 2005-08-17 19:57:24]


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13049 times:

Nice report. Brings back memories for me as I was on LP027 a few months ago.

Quoting RCS763AV (Thread starter):
We then proceeded to the second floor, passed security and went to gate 13, which btw is the only domestic jetway? Pls confirm...

I was wandering around LIM a week later, waiting for my flight to SCL (and thence EZE). There appears to be a glassed-off section with a set of gates within (maybe 2 gates) that can be configured for either domestic or international operation. In other words, either one wall or the other would be "open" to allow passengers from either the domestic side or the international side to use those gates. There are several more "gates" downstairs which are really just bus stops.

Quoting RCS763AV (Thread starter):
Some minutes later i saw the city and the airport. We made some big turns and passed through the side of a hill and then lined up with the runway. Touchdown was very smooth but we kept on braking for like 50 seconds.

It's a fantastic approach, isn't it? The altitude makes for a fast landing - we used most of the long runway to stop. I like the airport too, with the live music and rustic atmosphere.

Geoff M.


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 12912 times:

very intresting report.

Quoting RCS763AV (Thread starter):
to Peru for only $1.099 per person.

very expensive for a week of holiday (you spend nearly the yearly income of a colombian worker with minimum wages...)

Impresive how much these kinds of holidays costs in SA compared to other regions of the world.

thank you for the report.

regards



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 12876 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 4):
very expensive for a week of holiday (you spend nearly the yearly income of a colombian worker with minimum wages...)

It actually included 5 star hotels, transport to Macchu Picchu, air tickets and city tours, i dont think its expensive. Remeber Europe has much more competition and tourists so prices are lower, but not that low. Places such as Peru or Mexico are not cheap. Also, what does the workers wage have to do with it? We have the money, and they dont...

Thx for liking the report!

Quoting Geoffm (Reply 3):
It's a fantastic approach, isn't it? The altitude makes for a fast landing - we used most of the long runway to stop. I like the airport too, with the live music and rustic atmosphere.

Indeed! And thx for the info on LIM!


Part 2 coming soon!



Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2724 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 12849 times:

Very nice trip report RCS767AV!

It was a very nice touch to add the front cover of Avianca's ticket as well as the information, I really liked that.

I agree that it was rather expensive, but like you said, its your money.

Machu Picchu is awesome, isn't it? Cusco is such a beatiful colonial city. It's really an amazing place. Lima, Callao and Miraflores are great, although I think you're right about the comparison between BOG and LIM. But LIM has its own differentt charm nonetheless.

When I went there a while back the railroad tracks were inoperative due to heavy rains and mudslides (happens all the time w/ el niño) so, the Peruvian goverment sent us their MIG helicopters to transport us from Cusco's airport to the foothill of Machu Picchu and back. It was my first helicopter ride thanks to the Peruvian Air Force!  Smile Peruvians are such hospitable people. Its a beatiful country and I recommend everyone to visit sometime in their lifetime.

Can't wait for your trip report on the way back. Did you take pic's of LIM's remodeled airport?

 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4512 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 12839 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
Quoting Avianca (Reply 4):
very expensive for a week of holiday (you spend nearly the yearly income of a colombian worker with minimum wages...)

It actually included 5 star hotels, transport to Macchu Picchu, air tickets and city tours, i dont think its expensive. Remeber Europe has much more competition and tourists so prices are lower, but not that low. Places such as Peru or Mexico are not cheap. Also, what does the workers wage have to do with it? We have the money, and they dont...

Sounds like a pretty good deal to me...



PARIS, FRANCE...THE BEIRUT OF EUROPE.
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 12832 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
It actually included 5 star hotels, transport to Macchu Picchu, air tickets and city tours, i dont think its expensive. Remeber Europe has much more competition and tourists so prices are lower, but not that low. Places such as Peru or Mexico are not cheap. Also, what does the workers wage have to do with it? We have the money, and they dont...

Sorry, with all due respect for this great report (see above, my reply #1), I can't leave this statement unchallenged:

First to say that Europe has much more competition and is cheaper is far-fetched. The demand-supply relation (more demand in Europe) does not work here properly. Different Prices per se, different consumption power (GDP/PPP weighted), different profile etc.. this just in short (and London is much more expansive than Wanneeickel in Germany)!

It also depends on what kind of tourism you are interested. You can have the most expansive tourism here in India, but you can also travel very cheap

A statement "We have the money and they don't" is ignorant! It stands for someone who wants to keep the status-quo rather than willing that the situation of the poor people improves. And imagine, what would the country be without workers? It develops on their blood.

The latter is particularly interesting: Coincidentally, my last gf was a Colombian.. she gave me great insight on the role of politicians in terms of the present misfortune of the country.. non-occured landreforms, deals with the guerilla etc..

Sorry if this sounds offensive, but I just can't let this startement be unchallenged. don't be angry with me but rather take it as a stimulus to go deeper in the question and offer me an altervnative explaination, if you wish!  Smile


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 12761 times:

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 6):
Machu Picchu is awesome, isn't it? Cusco is such a beatiful colonial city. It's really an amazing place. Lima, Callao and Miraflores are great, although I think you're right about the comparison between BOG and LIM. But LIM has its own differentt charm nonetheless.



Quoting Latinplane (Reply 6):
Peruvians are such hospitable people. Its a beatiful country and I recommend everyone to visit sometime in their lifetime.

YES!!!!!

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 6):
Can't wait for your trip report on the way back. Did you take pic's of LIM's remodeled airport?

Yes but my mom put the pics somewhere and i dont know where they are thats why i separated the report in 2.

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 8):
A statement "We have the money and they don't" is ignorant! It stands for someone who wants to keep the status-quo rather than willing that the situation of the poor people improves.

I care, believe me, but its my money!

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 8):
The latter is particularly interesting: Coincidentally, my last gf was a Colombian.. she gave me great insight on the role of politicians in terms of the present misfortune of the country.. non-occured landreforms, deals with the guerilla etc..

Total media bullshit. Every average Colombian thinks that. There is corruption like in every country but not like hat. The only things media do is blame the countries misfortune on the politicians, thats why the ignorant populorum think thats the way it is.



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 12723 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
Also, what does the workers wage have to do with it? We have the money, and they dont...

because the relation is not correct, a hard working labor in germany/europe has the money to do at least one vaction per year and this is good so.

do not forget, the money do you have is from the workers tax if your dad is politician...

anyway nice report!

regards



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 12651 times:

Cool report.

Question: Did you check prices for vacation packages in Isla de Margarita? I know it is very cheap and Colombians have been flocking to the island lately.

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
lso, what does the workers wage have to do with it? We have the money, and they dont...

Because of people like you is why Chavez exist. If you dad has the same ideology as you do, I sincerely wish that he loses his election bid to the Colombian Senate.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12618 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 11):
Because of people like you is why Chavez exist. If you dad has the same ideology as you do, I sincerely wish that he loses his election bid to the Colombian Senate.

totally agree!



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 12555 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 9):
Total media bullshit. Every average Colombian thinks that. There is corruption like in every country but not like hat. The only things media do is blame the countries misfortune on the politicians, thats why the ignorant populorum think thats the way it is.

My friend, you better refrain from these statements - otherwise this excellent Trip Report will end in a bitch festival. I just had a look at your profile and sicerely hope that your next years will shed some light on this - you might be able to understand some of the root causes of the referred problem. I am with Avianca and Luis here. Just to clarify: the girl I dated was out of the same class as you are and for that very reason left Colombia. Labelling this as Media Bullshit (and condemning the opinion of "average Colombians) works with some people, but not with people who try to see this issue from the grassroots. You better try to take their perspective once and ask yourself why the state of many people is so desparate, rather than saying: "I have they money and they don't"

Definitely my last post on this topic, otherwise this WONDERFUL TR willl go off-topic. But better refrain from the biased and unelaborated comments and think a little about the topic and whether your opinion is coherent.

i wish you all the best and am already looking forward to reading your next "masterpiece"  Smile


User currently offlineGeoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12527 times:

I'll try to get back on topic then!

Where is the 2nd trip report - or haven't you written it yet? What did you think of Macchu Piccu (sorry, can't remember how many Cs there are)? I did the 4-day trek there and took the train back.

Geoff M.


User currently offlinePDXtriple7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12400 times:

Nice report! Interesting to hear about AV as I don't know much about them. Hope Peru was amazing! I hope to go there soon.

User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 12314 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 19):
Yes. But im not saying i dont care about the people

sounds good!

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 19):
SO COULD WE PLEASE STOP THIS DISCUSSION THIS IS A TR IF YOU WANNA TAKE IT FURTHER GO TO THE FORUM OF NON-AV RELATED stuff.

open it and we will discuss about the great country colombia....let me know when it´s open.



Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineTaichen From Spain, joined Jul 2001, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 12231 times:

Nice report. I hope, tho, that you'll get greater insight about Colombia and South America in the coming years

Justa quick question, how exactly do you think is Colombia more advanced than Peru?


User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2408 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 12116 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Thread starter):
safety video was shown, and when i realized, we hadn't even left the gate! Every other airline i have been on does this announcements while taxiing.

There's no an actual policy, I fly LAN 2-3 times per month, and the video is shown randomly during taxing or before it. It's funny to see how the crew is demanded to, while the safetiy video is on screen, to look forward in a "serious manner". They stand so proudly...

Quoting RCS763AV (Thread starter):
I must say, nice service for a 1 hr flight.

Of course, it's LAN...

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 1):
LP and LA.. do tehy belong to the "same consortium" (logo on the boarding passs looks familiar), or does Lan simply mean "air" in spanish? Sorry about my ignorance

Lan Chile was the Chilean flag carrier. At the time, "LAN" meant "Linea Aerea Nacional" ("National Airline"). But they did great business and expanded internationaly, creating LAN Peru. And then Lan Dominicana, Lan Ecuador... and they realized that using the name of each country as brand was more expensive, so they created a unique brand, although legally they are different companies, with more or less property belonging to the mother company "LAN Airlines"

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
We have the money, and they dont...

Great! Please, first grow up, stop travelling with daddy's money and start with yours, and then use big words you don't understand... so far you've done nothing.

Nice report anyway.



in order: 721,146,732,763,722,343,733,320,772,319,752,321,88,83,744,332,100,738, 333, 318, 77W, 78, 773 and 380
User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 12103 times:

Very nice report. Can't wait for the return trip.

User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 12040 times:

Much better than the past report, but could still be further improved... there are parts where you get the idea that you were getting bored of writing and started typing so fast that many typos popped out. But thanks for sharing anyhow.

About the 757 change, it wasn't a last-minute change, it's actually pretty common, there's always one day of the weekend when the usual 763 is replaced for a 757 on the LIM flight, it has already been mentioned several times. The JFK flight also goes from 763 to 762 on Sundays IIRC.

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
We have the money, and they dont...

Just as I thought... typical spoiled brat from northern Bogota, who thinks that Colombia is all about old Unicentro and boaring Andino malls, and that the country goes from 100th street to the 160th, and fails to see that they have the single largest community of poor people down south in front of their faces, only a half an hour drive away.

It's even funny to see how our country's current situation can be brought down to two lines:

"We wanted to do a short and cheap trip somewhere near as my dad is about to start his campaign for the Senate in the period of 2006-2010."

"Also, what does the workers wage have to do with it? We have the money, and they dont..."

...And people here expect things to get better... *sigh*





SOUTHAMERICA

[Edited 2005-08-26 05:33:16]

User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12008 times:

I think it is better to continue the Colombia discussion in

Colombian Senator Says Cocaine Dealers In Congress (by Virgin744 Aug 26 2005 in Non Aviation)

Someone else has opened a thread accordingly. To all fellow Colombians: Hopefully I will visit your country soon.. it is not unlikely (should my ex and me get along again)! All the best for you and for a peaceful social reform from India! We share many similar problems, and may the people achieve their wealth they deserve and kick the so-called elites in their a$$e$


User currently offlineTANS From Czech Republic, joined May 2005, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11933 times:

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 9):
I care, believe me, but its my money!

I hate continuing this thread, but this comment really got me. Someone who is between 13-15 years of age hardly has any money on his own. If you do, it comes from your dad/family. You did nothing for your family to have the money in the first place.

Your comment is very early-capitalism like and you are certainly entitled to that opinion. However, can you imagine what harm you can do to your father if some journalist happened to read this thread?? Do you realize that your boarding pass is scanned here, your name clearly visible? I can assure you that people have been destroyed in political campaigns for things much smaller than "we are rich, they are not, we don't care, so bugger off." That is especially true in Latin America.


User currently offlineTaichen From Spain, joined Jul 2001, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11822 times:

Well. Just try to grow up a bit. I was asking about social advancement. "We have more money" is just such a silly thing to answer.

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