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Punta Del Este-FRA. With Pluna And Lufthansa  
User currently offlineUairFokker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4338 times:

Well, I am going to write this, my first flight report.
I live in the city of Punta del Este, Uruguay, and I wanted to get to Germany to visit my German part of the family.

Lufthansa was the obvious choice, but it was also the most expensive one. Finally I took them as I had enough miles on the Miles and More card to do the voyage freely, which I promptly did.

To get from PDP to Buenos Aires, the AeroVip alternative gone, I took the national carrier, Pluna, on one of its ATRs.

Then, over the Atlantic, I was going to take one of LHs 747 400s. I was a little disappointed I didn’t traveled before, as I really wanted to sample the A346

I was going to be traveling alone this flight. Although I traveled alone a lot of times before, this trip was going to be special, first alone over the Atlantic, first over the South Atlantic Ocean, and first alone with more than 12 years of age.

We will travel together with my mother to Buenos Aires, and then I will travel alone LH.

Summary: PDP AEP
Pluna, ATR 42.

EZE FRA via GRU
Lufthansa Boeing 747 400

OK, Lets start.

The night before departure from PDP we had a really strong thunderstorm, with high speed winds and lots of rain. It was so bad that I was scared the flight was going to be cancelled.
Luckily, in the morning the weather was much better, and we drove to The airport, Laguna del Sauce.

To better understand the following, you should know that right before our flight there was a charter departure of a Pluna 737 to the warm coasts of Brazil. The aircraft was already on the ramp when we arrived, but the ATR was nowhere to be seen.

All fellow passengers to Buenos Aires thought the 737 was their plane. That is why some rumoring spread when the ATR landed.

Just sitting in front of me was an old couple. This is a transcription in English of what they said.

Husband: What a tiny plane!
Wife: Yeah, so little…
Husband: Wait a minute… is a Pluna!!!
Wife: Don’t be stupid. It is a prop! Pluna doesn’t has props.
Husband: Yes, I know, but, don’t you see it. The Pluna thing!
Wife: What thing?
Husband: The logo, the drawing…
Wife: Oh, I see it. The Uruguayan fag!
Husband: NO!!!!!!!!, The logo!
(At this point I was having serious trouble to not to laugh)
Wife: Oh, now I see it. I though you meant the little plane, hehe.
Husband: I mean the little plane.
Wife: Impossible, It is a prop!

I couldn’t take it any longer, and I moved away.

The 737 departed, and soon everybody noticed there was something wrong.

Everyone was arguing in front of the ATR and fuel truck, and it was getting late. Then, a Pluna staff, passed through the waiting area explaining each passenger they were having a problem with the fuel truck.

Another fuel truck came… Not successful.

And then it came: “Dear passengers to Buenos Aires, because of problems with our fuel truck, we will have to make a refueling stop at Montevideo (10 minutes flying time) In seconds we will be boarding”

That made passengers nervous.

Seconds later: “Passengers for Buenos Aires via Montevideo (hilarious!) can now begin boarding. Thank you.”

That began a kind of revolution on the passengers, and the old woman (The same one that was arguing with his husband) stated in a REALLY high voice : “A mi me pone nerviosa subirme a un avion que no tiene nafta”, traduced “I am nervous about flying with a plane without gas”
Even that all passengers headed for the bus, although with scared faces and harsh comments on Pluna.

Once on the plane my mother, yes, my mother, stated also very loudly: “I heard something of sparks, better not to listen” And then everybody started to ask the poor FA: “Is this plane safe?”, “Isn’t any other bigger plane we can take?” “Are you sure we have enough gas for Montevideo?”, etc…

Once in Montevideo, the FAs stated “Welcome to Montevideo. All passengers with destination to Buenos Aires please stay on board. We will soon take off” That made a frustration groan spread throughout the cabin. Obviously, we were all heading to Buenos Aires.



We refueled, and took off for Buenos Aires. Drinks were served ( nice on such a short flight) and soon we landed in AEP.
On the bus, of course they were only comments like: “Horrible”, “We almost crashed”, “Never taking Pluna again”, etc…

We had a beautiful evening in Buenos Aires, we went to the theater, but it was soon time to head for EZE.

For the fight in LH, I got the date from the ticket. Sorry I lost the Pluna data. Here is the LH data:


Flight: LH 503 operated by: LUFTHANSA
From: BUENOS AIRES BA PISTARINI
To: FRANKFURT DE INTL, TERMINAL 1
Departure: 03. Juli, 10:20 am
Arrival: 04. Juli, 06:10 am
Class: Economy Class (X)
Stop: SAO PAULO SP


The EZE check in area was clean, sparkling and beautiful, as usual. There was no queue at LH, and I soon found myself with the boarding pass.
Said goodbye to my mother, and I entered the airside.

Magnificent, the 747 was already there. Besides it there was an Air France 777. The triple seven is beautiful and technological, but, besides the Queen, it had nothing to do.

We boarded on time, and although the thick fog, which made all other airplanes delayed, we took off in time for Sao Paulo (Incredible take off, I couldn’t see the tip of the wing!)

I agree the economy class on LH is horrible, but I really like the grey and yellow seats. They are different than the all blue ones.

We were served something like cheese and a kind of very thick ham. I tried to cut it, but no way, I couldn’t.

I started reading “Deception Point” (Amazing!) and it was soon time to land at Sao Paulo.

Sao Paulo was a nice break. I liked the feature about staying inside the aircraft, all passengers standed and began chatting, I chatted with this Philippine guy that was a sailor, and talked English, so I practiced mine, I wondered through the almost empty 747 (big airplane) chatted with FAs, looked at the catering procedure and cleaning crew from the inside (very interesting) and it was soon time to sit down because the refuel procedure. The cabin crew changed, and the other passengers began boarding.

Unfortunately they were a LOT of passengers, and the 747 was soon full, and I mean it. I missed my row empty, and I soon found the Philippine guy seated next to me. It appears this was his seat, but like in the previous sector all was empty, he seated somewhere else.

He decided to talk. A lot. I didn’t knew how to look outside in the taxi without appearing rude. He even continued talking during take off, and initial climb, I was desperate! Luckily, the FAs soon served a snack, and a buried myself in “Deception Point”

I continued reading, a little squeezed my seat mate, over the entire coast of Brazil, eventually looking out to see the marvelous look at the coast, and eventually cities. Upon leaving Brazil for the Atlantis, dinner was served, nice, and it was soon night.

That night was horrible for me. I couldn’t sleep! Everyone was sleeping, but I couldn’t. Worried of Jetlag the following day, incredibly uncomfortable on LH seats, there was no way to sleep. I didn’t turn on the reading light as I was going to be the only doing so, I was ashamed of that and didn’t wanted to disturb fellow passengers. Instead, I tried to sleep, closing my eyes, looking from time to time my clock to see if a really managed to sleep.

The FAs passing drinks during the nigh definitely helped me to “survive”.

Just before Spain, breakfast was served, and everybody woke off (finally)

Breakfast was an omelet, it didn’t had taste, but it was definitely edible.

Over southern France, the sun came out (great) and minutes later I was greeted by a fantastic view of the Alps and Lake Constance, as we stared the descent.

Upon landing, just before landing, suddenly the captain applied full power and executed a go around. He explained the plane before us got too close.

At our second attempt we landed, I navigated through FRA (a mess) and soon found myself on the landside.

Met my dad, grandfather, called my mother all the way to Buenos Aires, and my “voyage” was finished.

Thank you for reading. Hope you liked it. Sorry for my English.

14 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
I was a little disappointed I didn’t traveled before, as I really wanted to sample the A346

Why didnt you try to fly to GRU intead of EZE - LH operates the A346 from GRU nonstop to FRA.

Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
right before our flight there was a charter departure of a Pluna 737 to the warm coasts of Brazil.

Do you know the destination?

Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
I wondered through the almost empty 747



Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
Unfortunately they were a LOT of passengers, and the 747 was soon full

From your point I understand that the majority of pax boarded in GRU, correct? Do you know the load EZE-GRU and whether many pax flew the route EZE-GRU only?

Tks,


User currently offlineUairFokker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4188 times:

OK, I will try to answer your questions.

The LH ticket was purchased with miles, it was free. Other ways, I had to travel to Sao Paulo with another airline, paying separately.

Didn't made economic sense.

The 737 was headed to San Salvador de Bahia.

The plane on the EZE GRU leg was almost empty, many people disembarked at GRU, but most continued to FRA.

Most of passengers boarded at GRU, the flight was completely full.

I forgot, the 747 was "Koln"

Somebody knows her history?

Regards,
UairFokker


User currently offlineMarambio From Argentina, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

Hello UairFokker,

Having flown from Buenos Aires to Germany with Lufthansa hundreds of times, I found nice to read somebody else's opinion on the route.

As for your request, D-ABVR "Köln" (cn 28285) was delivered directly from Boeing to Lufthansa on March 13th, 1997.

Saludos,
Marambio



Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo.
User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4147 times:

I always take 2 Bayer aspirins on a night flight and it really helps. I avoid cafeine ie coke, coffee and tea.

I heard that LH seats are very uncomfortable but it is the most popular foreign airline out of TLV due to low fares.

I would like to visit Puente del Este. Heard it's great. Was in BA but never made it to Uruguay.

By the way Uruguay gets a very low safety rating from the US FAA.

Thanks for the report.

[Edited 2005-08-28 23:58:16]

User currently offlinePlunafan From Uruguay, joined Jul 2005, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4105 times:

Quoting Semsem (Reply 4):
By the way Uruguay gets a very low safety rating from the US FAA.

If you aren't agree with "Mr. Bush" ideas, you aren't safe.

[Edited 2005-08-29 02:30:44]

User currently offlineUairFokker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Well, I think Pluna is safe, although the fuel truck problem...

I am sure you will enjoy visiting Punta del Este.

I will try your advice next time. Fortunately, on my return trip, (I will post it someday) I could actually sleep.

Regards,


User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3889 times:

Venezuela also get's a bad rating from the FAA. I have no idea how they come up with the ratings.

User currently offlinePlunafan From Uruguay, joined Jul 2005, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3840 times:

Quoting Semsem (Reply 7):
I have no idea how they come up with the ratings.


Uruguay, Venezuela and Argentina have bad ratings due to political situations. Well, not 100% political.


User currently offlineUairFokker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

Quoting Plunafan (Reply 8):
Uruguay, Venezuela and Argentina have bad ratings due to political situations

Why? We don't have any political problems, nor has Argentina. And, can you please tell me how you came out with the history of the aircraft? I am very interested in a site where you can know that.

Regards,


User currently offlinePlunafan From Uruguay, joined Jul 2005, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

Quoting UairFokker (Reply 9):
Why? We don't have any political problems, nor has Argentina.

Uruguayan situation: Agreements with Venezuela and Cuba, and some non-signed agreements with USA.

Argentina's situation is different from our (Uruguay) situation, economical differences with USA.


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

Quoting UairFokker (Reply 9):
And, can you please tell me how you came out with the history of the aircraft? I am very interested in a site where you can know that.

Try Airfleets.net, fairly reliable in my experience.



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineUairFokker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

Thanks for the web address, today it is not working, although. Trying it later.

Thanks,

UairFokker


User currently offlineBrasuca From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 717 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
REALLY high voice : “A mi me pone nerviosa subirme a un avion que no tiene nafta”,

This was damn funny!

Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
it was soon time to sit down because the refuel procedure

Sorry. I never saw any onboard procedure because of ground refueling. How is it?

Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
He decided to talk. A lot. I didn’t knew how to look outside in the taxi without appearing rude. He even continued talking during take off, and initial climb, I was desperate! Luckily, the FAs soon served a snack, and a buried myself in “Deception Point”

You have a great sense of humour.  rotfl 
Suggestion: Next time suggest him to watch out the outside view with you.

Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
I didn’t turn on the reading light as I was going to be the only doing so, I was ashamed of that and didn’t wanted to disturb fellow passengers.

How come? I'm just like you too!  shhh 

Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
Breakfast was an omelet, it didn’t had taste, but it was definitely edible.

I was served the same, in this flight, in May this year.

Quoting UairFokker (Thread starter):
Upon landing, just before landing, suddenly the captain applied full power and executed a go around. He explained the plane before us got too close.

This is awesome, I've experienced that before aboard MD11.

UairFokker,
Another suggestion is that you could have flown 747 EZE-GRU, then connected LH GRU-FRA A346. The only problem is you would have to wait almost 5 hours. I found LH ground staff to be very flexible.
A346 is much more comfortable and interesting, and less crowded.

Hardi,
LH B747 flight seems to leave GRU always full. When I flew it, more than half of the plane boarded in GRU (I'd guess 65%) and 100% full in Y and J (no clue about F).
However, return flight happened to be the emptiest flight I ever had. It was with A346, to SCL. I had a row of 4 seats for me alone (I was more comfortable than Business class pax)!! I guess it was only 40% full and most was inbound to GRU.

UairFokker,
Excellent Report!!! It turned out to be a very interesting Trip Report one!!! Muchas Gracias...



Varig, Varig, Varig
User currently offlineUairFokker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3492 times:

Thanks, brasuca!

Well, to answer the refuelig thing. I was actually twice in side the aircraft when it refueled this trip. In Carrasco with the ATR of Pluna, and in GRU with LH.

It is really nothing special. Passengers are told to seat and unfasten their seatbelts, and do not block the aisle. In LH they took advantage of it and didnt told when was it finished, and immediately the other passengers boarded. How we were all seated, the boarding was very quick, and not a mess.

About the A346. I really wanted to test it. But I didnt wanted to stay 5 hours at GRU, airport I dont like that much. But, this was my first trip with the 747 400, previous trips were with the classic version. I fell completely in love with the 747.

Thanks. Regards,
UairFokker


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