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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

OK FLYING: STR-PRG-BUD-PRG-STR


Introduction: Budapest was on my to-do list since a long time. My books told me that early september is a good time to go there.
CSA was an airline i´ve never flown before and the offer was ok, so I booked that trip in early april this year.



Stretch 1:
Saturday, 10.09.2005
STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen) - PRG (Prague-Ruzyne)
OK 563 operated by ATR 42-500 OK-JFL
Scheduled: 09.10 // 10.30
Actual: 09.30 // 10.30
Gate: 122
Seat: 10D
Load factor: good 60 %
Roundtrip fare: 200,45 EUR Classic Paper Ticket




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Delivered new to CSA: 30.07.2004


My first flight of this tour departs at short after 9.am, late enough to choose the train option to the airport. Wake up at 5.00 am after a short night, the train was scheduled for 06.42 am from a station roundabout 20 minutes from my house and was really cheap, only 6,50 EUR for the 1 hour 10 minutes ride to STR airport. Present there at T1 station, changed to T3 for the Czech Airlines check in desk.
Handling was done by Stuttgart Ground service, one counter open, no customers there. I´ve booked these flights on CSA´s homepage, but no E-Ticket was available. Instead they send me the classic, old-fashioned one, issued by their Frankfurt town office.
I presented tix, passport and AF/KL Flying Blue membership card. I´am curious what they pay for these flights.
A friendly young male checked me in, no bag to check and after 1 minute I hold both boarding passes for this day in my hands. I was pax No. 16 for the STR-PRG fllight. Back to T 1.


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Crossed security, no time to wait there, strict as always and looked for the assigned gate. After some airport shopping at T1 I changed again to T 3 and settled down at the far eastern end of the gate area with good views to the arriving planes.
My plane was expected for 08.30 from Prague. Interesting traffic this morning especially from Turkey, Onur Air A300-600, 2 AtlasJet B752´s and 1 A320, MNG MD83, Pegasus B737 old and NG in special colours.
OK-JFL, a ATR 42 as announced arrived finally at 8.30, parked at an apron position. Time to go to my gate in T1 now, down the stairs to the bus gates, crossed passport control without further questions and at the gate at 08.40 am, the printed boarding time.
Boarding started than at 08.50 by bus. Roundabout 30 pax in the bus, all leisure travellers. My first leisure flight on an ATR42-500. Placed my cabin-sized small suitcase on the car beneath the planes stair.
I like these delivery-at-aircraft situations, always good for some confusion around the non-frequent-travellers!. Rear door boarding on the ATR´s. Welcomed by a friendly young female FA, another young friendly female in the front part of the cabin. CSA operated ATRs with the last two rows as Biz class,
empty for this flight, my seat was in the next row, 10D this time. The seat beneath me remained also empty.
The captain informed us short after boarding about a 30 minute delay during to bad wheather conditions
over eastern bavaria, heavy thunderstorms there. Doors closed, the FAs served water and orange juice to all pax and 15 minutes later the captain announced engine start earlier than planned, we´re ready to go. No screens on the ATR, that means the classic safety demo. It seems to be a new plane, dark, blue leather seats fitted with modern alu parts, clean and good looking, legroom was ok.
A long taxi to the entry for runway 25 in western direction, no time to wait and a short takeoff roll and a steep departure, a long right turn and on the way to the east.
Flight route: STR-Nuremberg-PRG. We´re flying through clouds from 5 minutes after departure till 35
minutes in flight, but no heavy turbulences around. The wheather was better near the czech border and
becomes foggy short ahead to PRG. Detailed informations from the flightdeck during the flight.
Crusing altiude 6000 meters.
The FAs offered free drinks again and a snack box with a cheese or ham sandwich, a joghurt and a muesli bar. Not bad.
The fasten seat belt signs was on most of the flight. Approach to PRG started 20 minutes ahead to arrival. Some circles during approach and a hard touchdown on runway 24 follows.
We leave the runway early, fast IMO, passed a short before landed OK B737 on another taxiway and parked on the apron. Engines stopped, doors opended and I said goodbye to the FA´s, picked up my suitcase from the bag car and entered the bus. This bus was a good reminder to the old eastern times,
old fashioned small and dirty. The bus stopped between Terminal A and B, up the stairs and looked for my next gate. The FA announced short before landing the gates for the pax with quick connections.
Prague airport opened Terminal C only days before. The ground floor was under construction but the first floor was opened for business, large and spacious with lots of glass and aluminium.
1 hour 30 minutes till the announced boarding time for my next flight. Lots of locos there, BMIBaby,Smartwings,
Jet2, Norwegian, Germanwings and the typical european classics, AF,BA,Finnair,SAS,SNBrussels,LH
and lots of CSA planes A310-300 included, TravelService, Fischer Air and so on.




Stretch 2:
Saturday, 10.09.2005
PRG (Prague-Ruzyne) - BUD (Budapest-Ferihegy)
OK 790 operated by ATR 72-200 OK-XFB
Scheduled: 12.35 // 13.55
Actual: 13.00 // 14.15
Gate: B 11
Seat: 11 D
Load Factor: near 100 %




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Boarding started ontime at 12.10 for my next flight to BUD. I was checked in as pax No. 5 for this flight. Again bus boarding, a real friendly good looking elder female at the gate. Minutes to wait in the bus till some late pax arrived at the gate. A apron tour followed to the smaller planes parked outside.
I was checked in as pax No. 5 for this part of the trip.
An ATR 72-200 was announced for this flight, so it is. OK-XFB, leisure flight No. 7 on the ATR 72-200 and the first on this bird.My suitcase on the car, delivery-at-aircraft again. Rear door boarding also on this type. 2 very friendly, good looking females on the plane. This plane was the total difference to the first flight, heavy used old and flat fabric seats,
scratched windows and a slighty dirty floor, it shows its age. The pilot made his welcome announcement and told us about some 30 minutes to wait till engines start while waiting for some connecting pax.
Time goes by, doors closed, engines started then at 1 pm . No screens, the classic safety demo follows. I am once again impressed about ATR pushback. Return with its own engines and without a stop, engines turned and we taxied along the apron. The other runway this time



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for our departure, IMO only used for smaller plane departures. No time to wait, no stop at the entry, power on the taxiway
and only seconds after we entered the runway, our heavy loaded ATR 72 lifted off. Good wheather along the whole tour. Flight route: PRG-between Brno and Bratislava-BUD. The FAs offered some newspapers
and short after the fasten seat belt sign was off they started their service. One time free drinks and a
box with a ham or cheese sandwich, a choclote bar snd some peppermints.
No free seat to see all around, biz included was fully booked. Again nearly all vacationeers.
One information from the flight deck during cruise flight at 6.500 meters.
Approach to BUD started 25 minutes ahead to departure. A low pass over the city center of BUD and a rather long landing on runway 13R follows.


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The taxiway to BUD T2 apron was at the far end of the runway, the reason for the long landing. Only 3 or 4 planes there, the whole space on the apron for the smaller planes was empty. Doors opened, said goodbye to the FAs, picked up my suitcase from the car and with a modern bus on the way to the terminal. Some minutes to wait at passport control with other pax from an AZ Milan service in front, no problem there. I changed some Euros in Forint in the arrivals hall and
entered the small public area to search for the Airport Minibus transfer counter. Lots of people there to avoid to go by taxi. 3900 HUF return, not to expensive for a direct ride to my hotel. Time goes by quick as I had a nice chat with a norwegian girl there  Smile. The driver called me and on the way downtown, 20 minutes to go.
My hotel was located only 3 subway stops from the city center, Sydney Apartment Hotel in a quiet street, a small, well designed one with indoor swimming pool. 111,50 EUR per night B&B booked by HRS.de.Recommendable.
I had 3 good days there, not the best wheater but ok, great architecture.





Stretch 3:
BUD (Budapest-Ferihegy) - PRG (Prague-Ruzyne)
OK 791 operated by B 737-400 OK-EGP
Scheduled: 14.15 // 15.20
Actual: 15.20 // 16.20
Gate: 19
Seat: 12F
Load Factor: 20 %



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Delivered new to CSA: 19.03.1999


I called the Airport Minibus Service Line at Sunday morning to pick me up at the hotel Monday 11.00 am. The driver arrived some minutes ahead, a Prague city tour followed to pick up other travellers and we need more than an hour to the airport.
CSA partners with Malev, so all the flights operated from T2A, exclusive used by Malev.


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They operate separate check in desks for every flight, my one scheduled for 2.15. pm was not yet on the screen, so time for a short visit to the airport exhibition. That means some displayed old eastern smokers, a Tu 134, a Yak 40, a Il 18, not far from the airport building and real interesting.
In the terminal again at 12.30 am. I read in the teletext news about a bomb threat at Prague Ruzyne this morning and so I expected a delay, so it was. The check in desk was announced at 12.35 with a 40 minutes delay. I had 1, 30 hours to connect in Prague, downsized to 50 minutes now.
2 desks opened for my flight, no time to wait and I was quickly checked in by a friendly young female as pax no. 4 to Prague. I asked about my connection, she answered, no problem at all.
Crossed passport controll and security without problems, checked the gate, 17 on the boarding pass,
19 on the screen which was right and searched for a good viewing position. I found a good place at the corner of T2B and viewed the action there. Real interesting: a B767-200 ER from Hainan Airlines goes to Peking and Shanghai, Moldova S2000 to Chisinau, AirMalta A320 to Malta, a Antonov 12 from Bulgarian Vega Airlines done a smoky late takeoff and so on.
I checked the screen at 1.45 pm and the delay was now an hour to 3.20 pm, that means 30 minutes to connect. Followed the arriving planes if there is a CSA plane viewable.
At 2.50 pm a B737 classic approached, the CSA logo to view, my plane was there.
A B737-400 was announced and so it was. OK- EGP , leisure flight No. 6 on the B737-400 and the first on this plane. Plane parked, heavy action outside, pax deboarded by the finger gate and at 3.15 pm boarding for my flight was called by the friendly female from the check in desk earlier.
4 female FAs on this flight, according to the load factor with maximum 30 pax, 7 to 8 pax served by one FA, not bad for us. Another well used plane, fabric seats, god legroom in my row, it was the exit row. Plane looks a bit worn. No screens there, that means the manual safety demo.
Only leisure travellers on this flight, no pax at all in front off my seat. Doors closed and pushed back,
taxi to runway 13L follows. A short take off run and our light plane departed steep.
Good wheather around, the fasten seat belt signs goes off quick.
Service: The usual snackbox with a ham or cheese sandwich, a chocolate bar, peppermints and free drinks.
One information during cruiseflight from the cockpit with a comment like they searched for the fastest possible route to prague, no information about the bomb threat.
After 30 minutes in flight we started our descent into Prague airport.
A calm touchdown on runway 24, heavy brakes and thrust-reversers to vacate the active quick and parked on the apron beside the ATRs.
The female purser announced the gates for the pax with short connections, me included, by the interkom.
That means bus deboarding, a modern one this time. The same entrance like saturday, in the building at
4.20 pm, up the stairs to the gates , rushed to the B area, down the stairs again, 5 minutes to wait at security, passed without questions and at the gate at 4.30 pm.




Stretch 4:
PRG (Prague-Ruzyne) - STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen)
OK 560 operated by ATR 42-300 OK-VFI
Scheduled: 16.55 // 18.20
Actual: 17.15 // 18.15
Gate: B 12
Seat: 3A
Load Factor: near 100 %



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Transferred to Eurowings: 01.01.1993
In Service with CSA since: 22.05.2000





I was really on time. Boarding started only minutes after I was there at gate B 12, I was pax no. 6 for this flight.
The usual bus boarding procedure, 10 minutes to wait in the bus for some late connectors, at the plane at 4.50 pm.
An ATR 72 was announced for this flight. OK-XFB, my plane from saturday and OK-XFC parked there, the bus drives along the planes and stopped in front off, surprise, OK-VFI an ATR 42-300.
Leisure flight No.3 on the ATR 42-300 and the first on this plane.
Stored my suitcase on the car, rear door boarding as always and welcomed by another friendly female FA. Have you ever seated in 1D in an ATR? That means you seat face to face backwards, an really unusual plane situation. All the bus pax in the plane, some empty seats around, another pax asked if its possible to change seats but the FA answered that the flight will be completely full, and he will stay in his seat. The female purser announced by the interkom that we have to wait again for some lost pax, IMO a hard day for the OK employees there. Another bus arrived with pax and the plane filled up, not to much legroom for me in this situation, doors closed and 3 A and B remained empty, a quick change and a row for me alone!.The classic, manual safety demo follows.
Once again a well used plane, old fabric seats and some scratches all around.
We taxied to runway 24 , seconds to wait for another CSA B737 arrival and with some loud vibrations we´re gone faster and lifted off. 3A was direct beneath the propeller,
a bit noisy there.
The fasten seat belts sign goes quick off and we cruised not to high without turbulences in southwestern direction via Nuremberg to a Stuttgart approach from the east.
Again the snack box with a ham or cheese sandwich, a chocolate bar and some peppermints with free drinks. One time information from the flightdeck that during the good wheather and not to much traffic in the area, the pilot awaited an ontime arrival. Good wheather with only light clouds along our route.
A lot of biz pax on this flight. Approach started 20 minutes ahead to arrival followed by a fast touchdown to vacate runway 25 quick, hard brakes on the taxiway, the plane stops nearly there. We parked on the apron, had to wait 2 to 3 minutes for the delivery-at-aircraft bags, waved good by to the friendly FAs and in the bus to STR airport T 3.

Conclusion: I was impressed by CSA. IMO a good fare on a real classic airline with friendly employees at all. Recommendable.

Comments and critics always welcome,
Markus (FLIEGER67)


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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3626 times:

Very nice and enjoyable report as always, reading was a pleasure!

BUD or any other East European capital is also high on my "to-do list" because I have never been in one of the former Warsaw Convention countries (no, even not in the ex-GDR with exception of East Berlin). Budapest and Prague would be my favourite cities to travel to, I can imagine that these cities are better for a weekend trip than - for example - Warsaw or Bucharest (no offence, just what I am thinking).

Too bad that OK dissapeared from DTM with their flights to PRG, unfortunately has the "orange shit" forced them to quit their operations.

Patrick


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

Hi Markus!
Thanks for posting your experience on OK in such great detail - it was highly interesting to compare your assessment with mine, which are based on a DTM-PRG-BCN-PRG-DTM roundtrip last December, before the "orange shit"  Wink forced them to quit the route much to my dsipleasure.

I have to agree with you - OK is quite OK, pardon the pun. Actually, they are one of the better carriers Economy Class-wise within Europe, and I would not hesitate to fly them again or recommend them, but unfortunately, my travels usually take me south- or northbound, so the PRG hub is a bit out of my way.

I'll be interested to hear about the mileage credit for your flights, too BTW. I will be travelling on AZ in Ocotber for the first time since "flying Blue", and am already expecting the worst.



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1692 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Markus,

Excellent trip-report: I'm pleased to read, you enjoyed and liked CSA the same as I did on another trip just before you - I found the atmosphere quite relaxed on board with excellent service from the cabin-attendants !!! (see my trip-report)

Keep up the good work, and let those enjoyable- and readable trippies com'in...



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3432 times:

Hi Markus,

wow, you're doing lots of East-Europe trips lately, don't you? And I enjoy reading each of your reports, this one on CSA, very interesting because I haven't flown them before, and probably won't do anytime soon. But it really sounds like OK is "OK and improving" as one of their ad campaigns really said years ago, as I've been told.

Must be a strange feeling to sit on 1D, I have to confess that I would probably have changed my seat as well - I mean you're looking face to face with the rest of the passengers, try to look through them - must be strange. But I guess many passengers who don't know the ATR request seats in the first row of the aircraft... It's the same with C-class passengers who often want to sit as far in the front as possible, and then the check-in staff has to tell them that Business is actually situated in the rear, because the ATR's rear is more comfortable, less noisy and closer to the exit door.

Also it was interesting to read your comparison about the different ATRs, I guess it makes a real difference if it's a new aircraft or one that is 13 years old. But these machines seem to be the perfect size for lots of CSA's routes, where a Regional Jet certainly wouldn't make sense.

Keep writing these reports, they're highly appreciated. Regards, Alex.


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8578 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3415 times:
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Hi Markus,

Nice report, really enjoyed reading it, nice to get 4 different a/c models & registrations.

Did you manage to do any non-airside spotting at PRG or BUD? and if so, where did you manage it?

Thanks

Mark



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User currently offlineBAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3405 times:

Hi Markus,

An interesting report, as expected.

I'm a bit confused though (it's easily done!):

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
a Prague city tour followed

Did you mean Budapest? Or did you get to spend time in Prague after all? Or have I just been easily confused?!!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Have you ever seated in 1D in an ATR? That means you seat face to face backwards, an really unusual plane situation.

I've never actually been on an ATR, but I have sat in rear-facing seats several times, on Dart Heralds between LHR and GCI, and on a BAC1-11 between IBZ and LTN. It really is a strange experience, especially on take-off on a BAC1-11! I really did think I was going to slide straight out of my seat!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
so time for a short visit to the airport exhibition.

It's a real shame that the museum was closed when you were there, but hope you got some good pics from outside. At least you got near to the place, unlike on my trip through BUD with my non aviation-loving friends!

OK are a nice airline to fly with. It's been a few years since I flew with them LHR-PRG-LHR, but wouldn't hesitate to fly them again.

Cheers mate.

Andy.



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3394 times:

Hi, first of all, thanx for your kind words.

Patrick:
Prague and Budapest, both interesting places at all, I was in Prague a year ago.
IMO, Prague is a more touristic destination, Budapest is more real ex-eastern life.
Germanwings will start STR-PRG again from early November, I hope no reason for OK to stop their service to STR.

Jens:
As you said, OK was OK!.
I checked my Flying Blue account seconds ago, no credit till now. I will post it later. Good luck for your AZ trip!.

MH017:
I´ve read your report some days ago. We made the same experience at all.

Alex:
Your right, eastern europe is very interesting, this time.
The passenger seated in 2D was also surprised, IMO he thinked about these seats used by the FA´s only!.
These two birds on my first day was like a situation how to follow the progress in aircraft design.

Mark:
There was no time for more spotting outside expect the airport exhibition.
I saw no spotters on both days.

Andy:
Do not post your report after 5 days working for several times on it, late in the night with only one eye open.
Your absolutely right, that airport minibus city tour was in Budapest and not in Prague as i wrote in part 3, sorry.
Strange thing that seating, isnt it  Smile.
And about the museum, like in germany, close it at weekends when most of the people will visit it.

Thanx again and best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineBAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
Do not post your report after 5 days working for several times on it, late in the night with only one eye open.
Your absolutely right, that airport minibus city tour was in Budapest and not in Prague as i wrote in part 3, sorry.

Hey, I know all about making obvious mistakes! No matter how many times you check your report, the obvious never stands out. I mean, just look at how, in my last report, I managed to fly from Stockholm, Sweden to Kiruna, Sweden via Ostend, Belgium!!

The museum thing is typical, the people who run these things never seem to appreciate that the general public want to visit tourist attractions outside of office hours!



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User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3347 times:

Hi Markus,

once again an outstanding report - I enjoyed reading it a lot! I have never been on CSA so far - my visit to Prague several years ago was by train. CSA still seems to offer a very good service on short-haul flights - much better than Germanwings or HLX, but often not much more expensive with flights from STR to PRG on CSA starting from EUR 29,00 one-way (plus tax). I also hope that Germanwings won't push them out of STR...

The rear-facing seats on the ATR are a strange thing indeed. Does anybody know why you find this seating particularly on the ATR? Does it save some space to have one row-rear-facing?

Christoph


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3300 times:

Hi Andy,
thanx for your reply again and good that you give me the view on that BUD/PRG thing, I never noticed it during I wrote this story.
About the museum, some guys worked around the planes there, IMO the reason for the closed doors there.

Hi Christoph,
thanx for your reply.
Your right about that fare situation, BUD with Germanwings was not much cheaper and with a "bad" arrival time late in the evening, so this one on OK was real worth it to pay that some euros more.
I was never on a plane before with that rear faced seating situation and I´am not sure after my ATR flights with Binter in June if there is the same seating there.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4121 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3259 times:

Always enjoy your trip reports!

Keep 'em coming.

Best regards,
Thomas  Smile



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

Hi Thomas,
thanx for your kind words and
greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 9):

The rear-facing seats on the ATR are a strange thing indeed. Does anybody know why you find this seating particularly on the ATR?

I think I have also seen it on the Dash 8.


User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
3900 HUF return, not to expensive for a direct ride to my hotel.

Well, it can be cheaper if you used public transport (about 1.50 Euros). Was your hotel close to some metro lines?

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 1):
BUD or any other East European capital is also high on my "to-do list" because I have never been in one

You can also add BEG on that list. OK, it has never been a part of "Warsaw Pact", but it is Eastern Europe.

Anyway, Budapest is really a nice place to visit. I've been there three times and wouldn't mind going back again. I prefer summer months because of much nicer weather that allows you to visit everything you want there. Also, spending some time at the airport is also a must for A.netters especially because Ferihegy has two nice observation decks and an interesting museum.



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

Hi Alex,
thanx for this information.
I was several times on the Dash 8 but dont noticed that seating there.
I will go next tuesday for biz STR-DRS-STR on LH operated by Contact Air
ATR 42 and will see if they had the same seating.
Btw i´ve booked this flight today and can´t believe it that Germanwings which is the only LH competitor on STR-DRS fare is near 200.-- EUROs return and LH
for the same day return is only 190.-- EURos. I´ve done a lot of LH flights the last time and this ist the first time I noticed that LH is cheap on daily return flights. A major change in LH´s policy, dont know.

Hi Aleksandar,
thanx for your reply.
I know about the public transport fare, but this time I prefer the minibus ride.
The hotel was about 500 meters from the next station, with bag in a new town, better by minibus.
BEG, why not.
Your right about the observation desks and the, bad, closed museum during my stay there.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days ago) and read 3124 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 15):
The hotel was about 500 meters from the next station

It explains a lot. Last time I was there, there was a metro station just near my hotel. It was a hotel "Stadion" next to Nep stadium and it's only three stops from Deak Ter (city center). Interestingly, I also saw a BA captain (at least it was written on his badge) using the public transport. Some hour or so before I met him, I took picture of his 767 G-BNWW. You can see it on MyAviation.net. Sorry for the quality.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 15):
BEG, why not.

More and more tourists visit it. If you plan to come, the best time (it is my personal opinion) is in spring, or if you looking to spend some crazy time, New Year's Eve would be interesting because of street parties, lots of concerts, etc. Few thousand Slovenian tourists came last year just to spend New Year's Eve in Belgrade.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 15):
Your right about the observation desks and the, bad, closed museum during my stay there.

I really don't know how things are during colder days. Are observation decks opened then?

Oh, in your profile says you like trains, too. I found a nice shop that had nice selection of both airliners and trains in Budapest. Visited it every time I've been there.



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

Hi Aleksandar,
thanx again.

My hotel, Sydney Apartment, was located 500 meters vom Lehel Ter, 3 stations from Deak Ter, in a quiet street without any other hotels around. Interesting that the BA captain used the public transport.

About BEG: If I visit BEG I will send you a mail for further information.

I want to visit the observation deck BUD T2 but I was with my carry-on bag and the "officer" said its not allowed to enter with bags, so impossible this time.
And about trains, BUD has also an interesting historic train museum, I saw some old material around Nyugati Ter when I was there.
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 17):
If I visit BEG I will send you a mail for further information

No problem.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 17):
I want to visit the observation deck BUD T2 but I was with my carry-on bag and the "officer" said its not allowed to enter with bags

It's strange. I always carried my rucksack and they made no problems about it. Of course, the content was thoroughly checked, but an onld camera, few bottles of Coke and Sprite and several timetables can't hurt anyone.  biggrin 



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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From UK - England, joined Sep 2003, 5177 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

Hi Aleksandar,
I´am always on travel with my cabin-sized rimowa silver alu case.
The "officer" said, impossible to enter with this case.

Last time when I was in Sofia a customs officer cant believe it that I will board the plane with my case. He called check in and they confirmed him, no problem.

Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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