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User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12166 times:

At the request of zarniwoop here is a quick re-cap of my last trip.

This trip was a SQ 744F trip, and it was a very good trip, with a 4 day layover in London. Checked with my wife to see if she'd want to meet me in London and play tourist there for a few days and sure enough she was up for that. We used to live south of London and really enjoy the UK. So this would be a mini-vacation for her.

The trip was scheduled to operate as SQ7394 SIN-SHJ/15 Oct, with a very respectable report time of 940am (1 hour prior to scheduled departure). As normal, I left my hours about 2 hours early, since this was a day departure, SQ didn't arrange transport and I took care of that myself.

Since it was a Saturday morning, the trip to Changi took about 20 minutes from Central Singapore and I arrived at just about 9am. Went to the ticket counter and checked my crew bag and then down to ops after being off for 10 days!

Did the usual thing of emptying my mail box and sorting through the important v. junk mail. And checked in with the scheduling computer. No changes to the pattern.

I recognized the F/O, as I had flown with him on a prior trip. So, off to look at the computer flight plan. The weather was great enroute and in SHJ and DXB, so off we went to the aircraft at about 930am.

The aircraft scheduled for the trip was 9V-SFA, the queen of the 744F fleet. IIRC, our takeoff weight was just in the vicinity of 355Tonnes, with a payload of 110 Tonnes and a fuel 85 Tonnes. I did the walkaround and upper deck inspection as the F/O did the cockpit setup. It was going to be his leg and my walkaround.

After a quick look at the aircraft exterior, I took a quick walk through the main deck to make sure the cargo was secured and you couldn't have put anything else in there. It was packed in very tight. Then up to the upper deck and into the cockpit.

By now the F/O had completed his setup. I jumped in the seat and did my scan,and became the PNF. I read the checklists, got the ATC clearance and the pushback/start clearance. We were ready to go about 35 minutes early!

Off we went, we had a short taxi to RWY 20R and off we went. The departure turned out to be radar vectors and a quick turn out and a splendid view of Singapore as we made a right turn up towards VJR and KUL. Our route took us up across the Bay of Bengal, over Chennai, just south of Mumbai and over the Indian Ocean into Muscat airspace and a straight shot into SHJ. The nice thing about communications in that part of the world is the introduction of CPDLC to VOMM (Chennai) and VOBF (Mumbai). It makes life so much easier, no spending hours trying to contact anyone on HF!

The enroute time was just over 7 hours and the flight passed without anything eventful happening at all. Just the way I like it. Arrival was smooth into SHJ and we did the ILS 30 into SHJ and arrived just over an hour early!

After a quick trip through CIQ, it was off for the "nice" ride to our layover hotel in DXB. By the time we got to the hotel it was about 3pm local. Since it's Ramadan, nothing would be open for dinner until 7pm. My F/O and I met for a quick dinner then off to bed. Departure to LHR was scheduled at 1510, so that was a 1210pm wake up and pickup at 1310.

The next day at the "appointed" hour we met in the lobby and it's back to SHJ. As normally happens in DXB the traffic was terrible and the ride seemed to take forever. Finally arrived just in time to see 9V-SFF land. By the we cleared immigration and got to the cargo ramp, the aircraft was in the stand and the crew was just exiting. A quick talk to make sure the aircraft was OK and off I went. I'd fly this leg to LHR. The planned fuel was 74Tonnes however, due to traffic and holding in the LHR area, I elected to put another 2 tonnes on. Our payload was 112Tonnes, including 3 horses and 2 grooms.
Takeoff weight was 346 Tonnes, still light enough for a assumed temp T/O out of SHJ.

Again a very uneventful flight to LHR, had the typical 4 turns in holding as we got into the terminal area. The weather was 2000'Bkn, Temp was 12C and the winds were 270/10, so 27L was the plan. After the normal "go down, slow down" we were turned on to about a 7 mile final and landed and commenced the long taxi to the cargo area.

As luck would have it, we arrived about an hour early, and as soon as we shutdown, I SMSed my wife to see if she had arrived. She was there and had just cleared customs, so I arranged to have our transport pick her up in front of T-3. Sure enough, 10 minutes later we were there and she joined us for our ride into SW London.

Sadly, the Thursday came all too quickly. She was going to take the morning departure out of LHR for SIN and we said good bye as she got on the tube for her ride back to LHR.

My trip that day was LHR-CPH-DXB. Not a nice trip, departure at 2000L at LHR and a 0120departure from CPH. However, on this trip there were two F/Os. Good for them, not so good for me.

Pickup was scheduled for 1815, with wakeup an hour earlier. So about noon, I went off to nap. I set my own alarm for 1700 and was up and awake at call time. Met my two F/Os in the lobby and off to LHR.

On the ride there, I asked them to decide who would fly which leg as was going to have both of them fly. My original F/O was going to fly the LHR-CPH leg with the new F/O flying the CPH-LHR leg. So in this case, the non flying F/O would do the exterior inspection.

We have to go to T-4 to get the flight plan and we finally arrived at the aircraft about 1845. The aircraft was loaded, fueled and ready to go. Another early departure! Fuel was our minimum for release, 30 tonnes and the cargo load was only about 90 tonnes.

Flying into places such as LHR, LAX, JFK, NRT and other busy airports, can be quite intimidating. However, I have found they really run like well oiled machines. Especially, if you consider the amount of traffic those places handle. Minimal delays getting out and we were about 35 minutes early on our arrival into CPH. We got cleared direct over the N. Sea and did a nice enroute descent for 22L.

We were scheduled for 2+30 ground time in CPH, however, there was only about 6 pallets coming off and 18 going on so, if our luck held, we'd be out early.

Sure enough, we were lucky and loading was completed in almost record time. We had 35K fish and 10K of high value drugs. So extra care with temperature had to be the order. The 744F has the ability to cool the entire plane or sections to a very low temp. In this case, the lower fwd and aft cargo holds had to be maintained to 4-8C. Fuel for this leg was 65tonnes, payload was only 105tonnes so our takeoff weight was a light 330 tonnes. Again, TO1 52C would be the thrust setting. We departed one hour early and climbed up to our initial cruise of 350. Flight time was just over 5 hours.

Since there were two F/Os they could take a rest, while I was relegated to the seat. We watched the sun rise as we were over S. Iran and made our approach to DXB to RWY 12L. Since we were so early, our normal parking area was occupied and we were relegated to the East ramp. Our scheduled arrival was 935am local and we were on the chocks just before 8am. Finally in bed at the hotel by 930am.

Since we didn't depart until Sunday, I didn't want to spend all day in bed, and forced myself to get up at 3pm. Spent about an hour or so doing computer stuff and then called my family on SKYPE.

Finally, Sunday arrives. Pickup is at 1010 for a 1150 am departure. Like clockwork, we're down in the lobby in plenty of time and off we go. We drop our bags off to be checked in, pick up the weather and off to the aircraft. This will be my leg back to SIN.

The aircraft had arrived almost an 90 minutes earlier so it was ready to go. I had to sign the flight plan and give a final fuel figure to the ground engineer. The F/O did the walk around and I went up stairs and got the FMS ready to go. We did our departure briefing and off we went. Because of all the construction in DXB we spent about 25 minutes taxiing to RWY 30R. But we were still almost 30 minutes early. The departure was the Tonvo departure and off we went. After departure, it was a right turn direct Tonvo and we settled down for a 7+20 flight back to SIN. Our fuel for departure was 85Tonnes, and our payload was only 95 tonnes, so we were fairly light and would spend most of the flight at 370. Our route was the reverse of our initial leg, out over Muscat, the Indian Ocean, across India, the Bay of Bengal and finally along the Malaysian coast to Singapore. The FMC had us arriving to SIN just about 1 hour early, 2230 instead of 2330.

As is normal at that time of day, there was considerable traffic in the area. We were vectored and slowed and that added about 10 minutes to our time but we were still early. Again, an uneventful landing on 20R and into the cargo ramp. It's nice to be home.

Transport was waiting with our bags and a quick trip to the terminal, through customs and down to check out. Since it was a late arrival, SQ takes care of my transport home and with the usual efficiency, I was home just before midnight. The end to an enjoyable 9 day trip.

Next trip a quick SIN-FRA-SIN.

Thanks,

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User currently offlineAleksandar From Serbia, joined Jul 2000, 3236 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12083 times:

Very interesting trip report.  bigthumbsup  It's really rare that we can read a trip report of cargo pilot. Do you fly only on 744F or you fly pax flights as well?

Quoting PhilSquares (Thread starter):
The aircraft scheduled for the trip was 9V-SFA, the queen of the 744F fleet.

What's the difference between that one and the rest of thr 744F in the fleet?

Quoting PhilSquares (Thread starter):
Next trip a quick SIN-FRA-SIN.

Looking forward to reading that one as well.  bigthumbsup 



R-E-S-P-E-C-T
User currently offlineHAJFlyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1473 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12015 times:

PhilSquares, thank you for this informative and comprehensive trip report. It is nice to have an international cargo report besides the US LLC and legacy carrier pax reports.

A few questions came to my mind:


  • Were all the early departures and arrivals a coincidence during this trip or does this happen rather frequently ?
  • Where do grooms and other staff accompanying life "cargo" stay during the flight ? Do you have a few seats for them on the upper deck ?
  • Why are you making the trip from SHJ to DXB instead of staying closer to the airport ?


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11935 times:

Very well written trip-report: it's good to see how a Cargo flight would be "carried-out"  Smile

Nice, your wife was able to join you in LON...

We do have our very regular MegaArk flights into AMS as well (sometimes 3 a day): when will you be visiting Schiphol (again) ?



don't throw away tomorrow !
User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11702 times:

Thanks for the comments,

I do fly both pax and cargo, although it seems as though lately it's mainly cargo, which is really not a bad deal. It's much easier, you leave when you want, none of the problems associated with pax flying.

9V-SFA is the first 744F for SQ. In reality, her configuration is identical to the latest 9V-SFP. Differences though include LCD displays and a aural V1 callout.

Actually, the arrival/departures on this flight were rather civilized. Seems as though most of the cargo report times are 2-4am local.....ugh!

When we carry grooms they ride in the upper deck. SQ's freighters are configured with 6 business class seats in the upper deck.

There really isn't anyplace to stay near the airport in SHJ. The hotel issue is one that is negotiated by ALPAS and the company. There is a list of standards the hotels have to meet in order for the cockpit crews to stay there and both parties have to agree. It's a pain to do the drive, but worth it. SHJ is very different from SHJ even though they're relatively co-located.

Scheduled to be in AMS 15-17 Nov...and again at the end of Nov. MH017, send me an email and I'll give you the flight numbers.


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7092 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11548 times:

Excellent report. thanks very much  Smile

User currently offlineSeven3Seven From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 318 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11473 times:

Great report. Very very nice to see different perspectives of pilots on the site now. Would love to hear how you spend your overnights in these very different intl. cities as well.

Also would love to hear your background and how you came to fly at Singapore.

Seven3Seven



My views are mine alone and are not that of any of my fellow employees, officers, or directors at my company
User currently offline65captin From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11436 times:

I enjoyed the report very much, thanks for taking the time to type them up. I look forward to the next ones.

Can I ask for pictures???

Thanks..
Jeremiah



"Dont you ever say an unkind word about Morris Day and Jerome!"
User currently offlineZarniwoop From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11355 times:

Hi Phil, thanks for the report. If you get time for the next report it would interesting to hear some of the details, eg setting up for the flight, how you fly the approach, etc...
A few of questions.....
1. How does your pay work? Do you get paid by the hours you fly? If so I would imagine that a 4 day layover in London would be a bit frustrating - not working for so long and away from home.
2. Does ATC treat a cargo flight the same as a pax one? ie does ATC give priority to pax flight over cargo, for eq if there is a long que to land into LHR?
3. Similar to q2, do airlines get preference at their home base? eg does a BA flight get priority to get out of LHR when it is busy, would an SQ flight get priority to get out of SIN when it is busy (in the rush to europe at midnight for example)?
4. Do cargo flights fly to a timetable like pax flights or are they by demand?
BTW, what is your favourite airport to land at and why?
Thanks  Smile Luke


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11333 times:

The pay at SQ is comprised of several things. First there is monthly salary, then PPA (Pilot Productivity Allowance or Flight Pay) a meal allowance based on regions of the world, then we receive a variable pay allowance of about 20% and then annually a 13th month and profit sharing. So, the simple answer is no, it's not a big deal to have a layover like that.

ATC doesn't differentiate between cargo and pax flights, just like they don't really favor the "local" carrier over a transient carrier.

SQ Cargo has a schedule with regular operations in and out of worldwide locations. In addition, they do ad hoc charters worldwide. The same is true for most companies.

Favorite place is a hard one. After a while they all become the same, I suppose it's easier to talk about least favorite. That would be anyplace in Nigeria....Lagos especially!


User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11229 times:

Great pilot trip report !.
I was just wondering , do SQ still have any flight Engineers. It's just my God Farther was a 742 F/E for BA, I'm slightly paranoid about this subject  Sad

Wrighbrothers



Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11159 times:

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 10):
was just wondering , do SQ still have any flight Engineers.

No everything is 744, 777 or 345


User currently offlineMccormk From Ireland, joined Jun 2004, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11087 times:

Hi Phil I see in previous posts you fly sometimes into Dub on the SQ freighter (good to see it is back to 3 flights a week). What has been MTW you have had when you have rotated out to CPH.
Also are you originally from Ireland and do you enjoy flying back here?


User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10994 times:

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 11):
No everything is 744, 777 or 345

Thanks. Check out my photo album  Smile

Wrighbrothers



Always stand up for what is right, even if it means standing alone..
User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 10846 times:

Excellent report! Out or curiosity, how do you eat on cargo aircraft? Are there real meals, and is there a galley?

Thanks


User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 22 hours ago) and read 10806 times:

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (Reply 14):
how do you eat on cargo aircraft? Are there real meals, and is there a galley?

Yes, there are real meals boarded just like on the pax flights. There is a galley in the upper deck that does everything a galley on a pax aircraft can do. The only difference is we do it all ourselves.

Quoting Mccormk (Reply 12):
Hi Phil I see in previous posts you fly sometimes into Dub on the SQ freighter (good to see it is back to 3 flights a week). What has been MTW you have had when you have rotated out to CPH.
Also are you originally from Ireland and do you enjoy flying back here?

IIRC, on the winter schedule it's going to 4/week. There is a LHR-DUB-DXB-SIN flight being added. Actually, it's a re-route of the LHR-CPH flight since CPH is seeing an increase in flights.

The flights out of CPH are not anywhere near MTOW. I guess the heaviest you'd ever be out of there is somewhere around 360 KGs or so.

I actually get to DUB about once every 2-3 months or so. I am originally from Ireland but grew up in the US.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 10591 times:
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Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 9):
I suppose it's easier to talk about least favorite. That would be anyplace in Nigeria



Out of curiousity, what makes Nigeria so unlikable?




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User currently offlineMccormk From Ireland, joined Jun 2004, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 13 hours ago) and read 10559 times:

Phil That is very interesting about the LHR to Dub lift. I wonder is SQ trying to fill the GAP left from when EI stopped up lifting freight from LHR. Currently BD is the only lift possibility. Will SQ be selling space on that segment?

User currently offlineLHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 10544 times:

A very interesting read, thanks for posting. It's fascinating to read a pilot trip report from the perspective of flying a 744F.

Just one question:

Quoting PhilSquares (Thread starter):
we were turned on to about a 7 mile final and landed and commenced the long taxi to the cargo area.

A long taxi? If you land on 27L and vacate left surely the cargo area is staring you in the face?



Once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned forever skyward
User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 10527 times:

Quoting LHR27C (Reply 18):

A long taxi? If you land on 27L and vacate left surely the cargo area is staring you in the face?

You're correct, should be 9L. The joys of jetlag!


User currently offlineSean1234 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10228 times:

Sort of an aside but do you think you will get to fly the A380?

User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 10184 times:

Quoting Sean1234 (Reply 20):
Sort of an aside but do you think you will get to fly the A380?

Actually, I don't want to. I am very happy on the 744....Although I do have about 2500PIC on the 320.


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9657 times:

Good day Mr. PhilSquares.

I do have a question in regards to you nice report.

How does it work with SLOTS for Freighters?
You actually have any?

This question due to that you departed before ATD, and (naturally) arrived on destination before STA.

Thanks in advance.

Aim for the sky!
Sudden



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9608 times:

First of all, most airports aren't slot controlled. So, it's just a matter of coordinating your flight plan for an earlier departure.

At slot controlled airports, sometimes if we're ready to leave early, it now becomes a matter of negotiating a new slot time. In reality, it's not that hard to do. Even though LHR is a slot controlled, generally there is no problem getting a new time from ATC/Eurocontrol.

It makes no difference if you're a freighter or pax aircraft.


User currently offline9VSRH From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9600 times:

Hey Phil,
Do you take pics while you fly? And as a Captain while flying PAX do you allow flight deck visits?
cheers
Patrick


25 Post contains images Patroni : Hi Phil, I enjoyed your trip report very much. Looks quite familiar to me (even though I am no aircrew) Be careful with that... Even though ATC gives
26 PhilSquares : Yes I do take pics in flight and during my trip. I'd love to allow visits, but I'd lose my job if I did.
27 Isua380b777 : Hello Captain Very impressive report. Do you visit Auckland? I have seen SQ passenger jets in AKL, but never a cargo. Regards Isu
28 PhilSquares : Yes, AKL is a cargo destination too. IIRC there is freighter service 3 or 4 times a week. The aircraft comes from SYD and goes to CGK on the way back
29 FXMD11 : Could you please clearify how that "new" F/O got to fly CPH-LHR if your flight, apparently using the same equipment, was LHR-CPH-DXB? There is no ret
30 Post contains images SA006 : Hey Phil. Very interesting report and thanks for sharing! I beleive SQ Cargo have just started operation into JNB. What are your scheduled times for t
31 Post contains images Patroni : @ FXMD11: I noticed that as well, but rather than suspecting Phil to be a flightsimmer I assume it was a typing error and was supposed to be CPH-DXB H
32 FXMD11 : [quote=Patroni,reply=31]How do you know how much the plts weigh? Phil didn't even define if he's talking about Q6, Q7 or LD, so I am surprised how you
33 Patroni : Well, 105t actual payload plus 65t trip fuel for a 5-6h leg still gives a *relatively* light takeoff weight (330t as he wrote compared to 396t MTOW)?
34 PhilSquares : Sorry, typo. One FO flew LHR-CPH, the other flew CPH-DXB. At SQ and most non-US airlines, weights are metric. The report was done from memory and my
35 SA006 : Give him a break. Interesting. So the inbound sector is routed through Brussels and the outbound is direct to SIN? Any idea of the times? -SA006
36 PhilSquares : SQ 7361 Arr JNB WED/SUN 0745L Dep 1030L SQ 7881 Arr JNB FRI 0350L Dep 0615L
37 FXMD11 : on FX it is metric too.
38 PhilSquares : One of the various pieces of paperwork we get prior to departure is the load sheet. A computer produced weight and balance form. It has the basic wei
39 Patroni : Phil, I am aware that the crew knows how much weight is on which position and it is not important if it's a container or a pallet. Therefore my quest
40 MilesDependent : Fantastic report Phil, thanks for posting!
41 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Great report, thank you Lee
42 EmiratesA345 : Very well written and informative trip report. You mentioned as of late that you are mainly flying cargo, which brings up my question. Would you ever
43 PhilSquares : SQ used to construct trips like that. However, due to the nature of the freight business, where there are delays, the construction on trips like that
44 Post contains images ZRHnerd : Another very interesting pilot trip report. Looking forward to your SIN-FRA-SIN report
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