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LHR-BRU-LHR In BD Business/Economy (w/pics+video)  
User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3708 posts, RR: 28
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12115 times:

Route: London Heathrow – Brussels Zaventem
Airline: British Midland
Flight number: BD149
Aircraft: Airbus A320
Registration: G-MIDS
Seat: 3F (Business Class)
Distance: 226 miles
Duration: 45mins
Date: Friday 30th December



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This journey was a bit of a jolly with my father, a regular BD flyer who has been unfortunately grounded by his company for the duration of a rather lucrative promotion. Fly Business / Premium Economy and earn 12,000 BD miles  thumbsup  As a result we decided to take a day out to Brussels, booking myself in the cheap seats both ways, my father returning in business. I’d run my BD account down to only about 4000 miles and thought if I signed up for this promo I’d then be desperate to try and get myself another award flight! Instead I creditted my flights to my Lufthansa Miles & More account. Personally I hadn’t flown bmi post-modularisation and was vaguely interested to see what was happening.

We both drove to Heathrow in the late morning and checked in at the bmi desks, thanks to a combination of various shiny coloured Star Alliance cards that freed us the restraints of having to use a SSCI machine. We were assigned exit row seats on the outbound although some confusion was caused as my father was on two one way tickets. I received both my boarding passes and asked if we could get some Fast Track stickers to avoid Plebtrack security. Afraid not, bmi don’t have any apparently so Plebtrack it was! Fortunately the line wasn’t too long but was a little confused as we were directed away from the lounge area into a shopping mall. After all it would be breaking a habit of a lifetime for BAA to do anything else! Thanks to BA’s mall free premium check-in area I had avoided this security line for over a year now and was a little disorientated although easily found my way round to the Concourse with the bmi lounges. Again since my last visit the old Diamond Club had closed and both consolidated into the old Business Lounge by Gate 16. We showed boarding passes and shiny cards and were waved into the lounge.

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bmi Diamond Club Lounge

Was pleased to see a couple of internet terminals, Irn Bru and a HUGE fridge stocked with just Cobra beer! Big grin Less pleased to see 2 litre bottles of Pepsi replacing cans, biscuits in jars etc. Although I can understand why bmi are doing this it is frankly cheap and comments in the guestbook reflected my thoughts. The lounge was empty which surprised me, and after a bit of internet surfing and a couple of Irn Brus I had a nose upstairs. Only one family up there and a businessman in the corner! Appeared the numbers of premium passengers were light today!

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bmi Business Lounge

I leafed through Conde-Nast Traveller for a while before my father was called up to the desk. He had been moved up to business class although initially declined as he’d rather have sat with me. The agent then called me forward and checked my status and upgraded me too  thumbsup . Our boarding passes were exchanged for 3E and 3F, the last row of business.

We took a seat for a few more minutes before the flight was called from Gate 16 right next to the lounge. A couple of other people got up too and as we turned the corner it appeared the gate was rammed. No priority boarding call or line  Sad heck, even UA managed this on a 25min flight on Xmas Eve! And with differences between C and Y being so small it makes sense to introduce something like this. As it happened a chap was sitting in 3E so we asked if he’d mind taking the aisle seat. He seemed happy with that. At the front of the cabin a chap decided he’d wrestle with the crew and try to get a bag offloaded. He wasn’t having much luck with the crew!

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bmi Business cabin

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Not a good day, weather-wise, at Heathrow

After pushback the safety demo was shown, the bmi version annoys me just because of the background music throughout!  Wink Afterwards we were offered newspapers by the FA, by the time it got to me the only option was the Daily Mail. If I was short of toilet paper I’d have accepted the offer. We taxied out to 27L and a short line meant I had prime viewing spot of a number of takeoffs, notably a CX 747 that kicked up so much spray it disappeared and when the spray cleared there was no evidence of the aircraft!

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In line for takeoff

The takeoff was rather noisy, had forgotten how whiny the engines are on the A320 and I was treated to a rather great view of Terminal 5, shame I’d put the camera away! We climbed up through heavy cloud, the rain had relented and it was time for a speedy lunch.

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Approaching cruising altitude of 24,000ft

The lunch offering was egg mayonnaise or chicken and bacon. With service starting at the front of the cabin I thought I’d end up stuck with egg mayonnaise, alas I was spared and ‘enjoyed’ it with a coffee and white wine (not all at the same time!). To be honest it was ok but the kind of thing I’d expect in BA short haul economy, especially with the offerings being purely from the box. Certainly not as tasty or easy on the eye as one of my many Club Europe meals  thumbsdown 
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Roast chicken and bacon with tomato and mayonnaise on a seeded roll

The descent through the cloud revealed the Belgian countryside with a light dusting of snow and it looked rather picturesque!

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Belgian countryside


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SN Brussels Bae-146

During landing and our taxi to the terminal the airport looked very quiet with only a few stands occupied. A far cry from my recent experiences of LHR, LGW, IAD and AMS. We taxied to the gate right next to passport control allowing a swift exit from the airport and into the city


"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3708 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12104 times:

Route: Brussels Zaventem – London Heathrow
Airline: British Midland
Flight number: BD154
Aircraft: Airbus A320
Seat: 8A (Economy)
Distance: 226 miles
Duration: 45mins
Date: Friday 30th December



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The snow began to fall rather heavily in the city and we were in danger of freezing our butts off so headed back to the airport about 15-30mins earlier than planned. Went up to check-in area where the *A Gold / bmi premium check-in line was free so we got our boarding passes swiftly and headed through passport control. Got a little something for my girlfriend in one of the gift shops before heading through security and up to the corridor with all the lounges. There was a reception desk for all lounges as apparently some were unattended and then enjoyed the 300yrd walk to the bmi lounge right at the end of the corridor! Lounge was rather pleasant with very similar design to the old Diamond Club Lounge in LHR T1 International.

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bmi Business lounge

My father and I took a seat by the window with a couple of the Leffe beers on offer  thumbsup  yum!

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Leffe – the blond version
We leafed through some magazines and newspapers while watching the snow outside swirling under the lights of the apron. Apparently BA’s flight was cancelled and during our time in the lounge I didn’t see one aircraft move outside! By this time a lounge attendant was present and we asked about the flight. Were told it was arriving at this moment and boarding would commence in 20mins, went back for another beer. A couple of us in the lounge started chatting, one of whom turned out to be a Flyertalker I’d advised about buying property some months ago in my University city and didn’t realise! It is strange when someone comes over and asks ‘Are you Fraser by any chance?’ !!! We recalled flying experiences, bad weather and the ilk, whilst supping on beers, awaiting our 20mins to be up. The screens in the lounge were a bit hopeless, at one stage two flights leaving within 15mins were going from the same stand! After about 30mins I went back to the front desk and was told the plane was landing now and boarding would commence in about 20mins…..déjà vu! As it happened within 20mins the display screens changed and as a group we left the lounge and boarding had commenced. We got on board, my father informing the crew he was downgrading himself to sit next to me. Our other new friends were in 1A and 10D.

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This picture of SN Brussels A319 shows quite well how bad the weather was!

The captain came out of the cockpit to inform us we’d require deicing equipment before pushback which would take about 10mins to arrive. 90mins later we were de-iced and ready to head back to London… I’d enjoyed a good nap in this time but was glad to be on our way back. We held in wait for taxi for about 15mins or so and as we pulled onto the runway the captain informed us that because only part of the runway was clear we’d be taking off at 110% power so if the takeoff was a little more noisy than normal that was why Big grin. I decided this was a good opportunity to use the movie function on my camera. (Go to No. 37 in the album for takeoff video ) Unfortunately before it was too late I realised the movie was rather low quality but does have sound!

We banked round out of Brussels, and not long after the cart was wheeled for food. It appeared from the menu the food that comprised the business class meal could be purchased for about €20! This was when I realised the only benefit of bmi business were extra miles and the slightly wider seat on the A-C side. Admittedly the differences between C & Y on European short haul product are fairly small but this seemed daft! As it was I asked my father if he could get his quota of food allowed on his business class ticket from the front galley so I could eat. Got the roll, fruit salad and a few other bits which helped keep hunger at bay following our delay! The sky was very clear and the towns and cities on the English Channel marked the coastline rather well. Ships were visible for some distance on ‘La Manche’ as well as other aircraft some way below us.

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An engine!

We gradually descended over the city of London and into Heathrow on 27L and landed at about 10.40pm, a little later than anticipated  Wink. We parked on the same stand we left on earlier that day so had a short walk to immigration where some drunkards were begging for pens! Caught the bus back to the car park which didn’t take long and then it was back home via Basingstoke so our friend could catch a train home!

Verdict:
Had it not been for the 12,000 mile promo there wouldn’t have been a hope of me paying for bmi if prices were comparable with BA. Business Class felt more like BA EuroTraveller with newspapers and the price of LHR-BRU-LHR starts at almost £400 compared to BA at £238. No contest! Bmi lounges are still pretty good, although as I mentioned in the report there have been some rather petty changes to refreshments and drinks. Looking back at my BD flights last December (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/55414/ ) it seems to me that the economy service of 2004 is the business service of today  Sad

As for economy, well you can’t mark down the airline for weather problems, but would have been amicable for a round of free drinks to be served during the delay. A bet they would have won a few friends by doing that! After all bmi do still market themselves and carry themselves as a full service carrier. And in my mind full service carriers come into their own when things go a bit off schedule….like this.

In summary, unless you are a mileage whore buy economy and buy the ‘business class meal’ off the menu! Save the cash towards a BD longhaul business class trip which sounds really rather good!

Next flight: Tomorrow LHR-IAD-RIC on BA and United



"My first job was selling doors, door to door, that's a tough job innit" - Bill Bailey
User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12074 times:

Nice to see a report on BD's 'new' service, doesn't seem to have been recieved too well! Not so bad if you have status though!


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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11758 times:

Great report, nice pics and a detailed description. Thanks  Smile

User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11741 times:

Once again another splendid report , great detail and great pictures, Nice to see how the competition is doing  Wink
hope you enjoy your flight on BA  Smile, BA217 or BA293 ?

Wrighbrothers



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User currently offlineManchesterMAN From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 11631 times:

Yet again the BD lounge looked empty. My last three visits at LHR and MAN I've been either the only person in the lounge or one of two people in there. I really hope the management are looking at this and seeing that their new model has failed miserably. They have replaced their loyal customers who pay premium fares with bargain hunters who have absolutely no brand loyalty whatsoever. And its not as though the aircraft are full of bargain hunters either, they're half empty most of the time, although I'm sure Nigel would say half full  Wink


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User currently offlineCambrian From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 619 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11383 times:

Hi Fraser,

Thanks for an interesting and honest report. BMI really have lost the plot with their plethora of offerings to the bewildered air traveller.

The meal in C on short haul is very poor- you are right- it is more like Y. I really can't imagine why BMI thinks that business class passengers want to eat out of a box. I was served a similar kind of thing in C between NCE and LHR last year, before the modular concept was introduced, and it left a very poor impression.

Considering that the Brussels route is one of the few remaining with C class (and is probably highly lucrative), bmi must be losing customers to BA hand over fist. This seems to be borne out by the tumbleweed blowing through the lounges in your photos!  sarcastic 


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3708 posts, RR: 28
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11088 times:

As the lhr-lgw.co.uk database has been updated I can say for those interested the returning aircraft was G-MIDP


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Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 2):
Not so bad if you have status though!

Well there is definintely some cheapening going on in the lounges. 2 litre bottles of Pepsi so those on the cheap fares don't go pinching the cans to drink onboard....alas that means the rest of the thing goes flat! Also the biscuits are now in a jar....so no pinching of wrapped biscuits...

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 5):
Yet again the BD lounge looked empty. My last three visits at LHR and MAN I've been either the only person in the lounge or one of two people in there. I really hope the management are looking at this and seeing that their new model has failed miserably. They have replaced their loyal customers who pay premium fares with bargain hunters who have absolutely no brand loyalty whatsoever. And its not as though the aircraft are full of bargain hunters either, they're half empty most of the time, although I'm sure Nigel would say half full  

Yep, well on two floors of bmi lounges at LHR that day I could probably count the other flying passengers on two hands!

At BRU there were probably five other people, and that is the sole *A Lounge at BRU!

Quoting Cambrian (Reply 6):
The meal in C on short haul is very poor- you are right- it is more like Y. I really can't imagine why BMI thinks that business class passengers want to eat out of a box.

Shocking. Can see why bmi may want to move to a Buy on Board model behind the curtain but when you are charging 400 return to BRU in J it is a joke to have anything but a polished service.

Quoting Cambrian (Reply 6):
Considering that the Brussels route is one of the few remaining with C class (and is probably highly lucrative), bmi must be losing customers to BA hand over fist

Indeed. Although my father had been grounded by the company for the last couple of months he usually travels to BRU once a week in addition to AMS, DUS and CDG. Unfortunately his company have a corp deal with bmi and so he sees a fair amount of in the inside of bmi aircraft. Apparently 3 in C and about 20 in Y is not uncommon on the last A320 out of BRU in the evening  Wow!

[Edited 2006-01-10 20:35:22]


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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 10915 times:

Another good report Fraser, keep them coming!

What a diabolical J product, and when you can buy the "meal", and I use that word lightly, in Y for 20 Euro's! 2 litre bottles in a lounge Wow!

Goodbye BMI wave ,

Sam



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User currently offlineAtco2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 1114 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10877 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 7):
As the lhr-lgw.co.uk database has been updated I can say for those interested the returning aircraft was G-MIDP

Just had a look for you too Big grin

Your outbound callsign was 'Midland 8NZ', and 'Midland 8RE' on the inbound.

Anyone know how they number these callsigns?

Great report all the same, great photos, very picturesue  Wink



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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10831 times:

Argh, That was a COLD day!, Oh and look What I found  Wink

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Sorry for the very very poor quality, The weather is really not shooting weather!  Wink


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10807 times:

Hi Fbgdavidson,

Thanks for the interesting trip report!

I live about 35 miles West of Brussels (near KERKY), and actually saw you flying on that particular morning, while you were cleared to descend to FL080.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 1):
By this time a lounge attendant was present and we asked about the flight. Were told it was arriving at this moment and boarding would commence in 20mins, went back for another beer. The screens in the lounge were a bit hopeless, at one stage two flights leaving within 15mins were going from the same stand! After about 30mins I went back to the front desk and was told the plane was landing now and boarding would commence in about 20mins…..déjà vu! As it happened within 20mins the display screens changed and as a group we left the lounge and boarding had commenced.

For your information: Brussels was closed for about 45 minutes when you had to depart. When the lounge attendant told you for the first time that the flight was arriving "at this moment", she was right, untill... BRU was closed around that very same moment. Your BMI flight was (together with lot's of other flights) put in a holding pattern (your BMI actually was going to arrive on time). Lot's of aircraft even had to divert!

The Captain of your BMI flight was also considering a diversion, as he asked the controller more information about the weather in Ostend (for a possible diversion). In the end, there was enough fuel on the plane so the aircraft made it to BRU.

So... when you asked the lounge attendant for the second time more information about your flight, she was right again (as it was now 50 minutes later, and the flight was really landing right now as the airport had just reopened).

About your BD flights: the only reason to fly them in my opinion is the price. However, on my 8 BD experiences till now, I've always really enjoyed them (especially the friendly cabin attendants and the informative pilots).

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 7):
Apparently 3 in C and about 20 in Y is not uncommon on the last A320 out of BRU in the evening

I'm not surprised by this. Look: most O&D business passengers between BRU and LON fly VLM on the BRU-LCY route. BA fill their aircraft with transfer passengers, while BD do the same (thanks to lot's and lot's of codeshares: UA, QR, NZ, AC,...). However, I can imagine that the demand for an 21:15 departure out of BRU (with no 'real' connecting possibilities) must be very low (not really for BA, as their last flight is leaving earlier, allowing better connections on their late evening departures to Asia).

I've flown BD 6 times in 2005, and 4 of those flights had a loadfactor of 50% or less (record is a LHR-BRU evening flight, with about 25 passengers on the A319).

Regards
Frederic


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3708 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 10714 times:

Quoting Pilot kaz (Reply 10):
Argh, That was a COLD day!, Oh and look What I found  

Cool! Don't think I've seen many pictures with me actually onboard...that I know about anyway!

If you blow it up really big you may see my ugly mug gawping out the fourth window  Wink Out of interest where did you take that photo from? As we went off 27L that must be a pretty powerful lens, or your broke into the Queens Building or something  Wink

Sabena 690, thanks for all the details! I realistically thought at one point we'd end up staying in an airport hotel or something, the wind was really swirling the snow around the airport that night!

Thanks for the explanation about the empty flight. I'd have thought the last flight out of BRU in the evening would be fairly full. Maybe not with connecting passengers per se but my father does daytrips to BRU on a weekly basis taking the 1945 flight back to LHR, presumed with lots of offices around the airport the flight would be filled with people doing the same thing.



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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10702 times:

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 12):
Cool! Don't think I've seen many pictures with me actually onboard...that I know about anyway!

If you blow it up really big you may see my ugly mug gawping out the fourth window Wink Out of interest where did you take that photo from? As we went off 27L that must be a pretty powerful lens, or your broke into the Queens Building or something

Taken from T2 car park  Wink Its prob one of the cheapest lens's out there but it does the job!(Sigma 55-200mm on a Canon EOS 350D) your very lucky I only shot a few departures that day lol.

Ill have a look at the bigger version and see if I can see you lol.

Kaz


User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3708 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 10457 times:

Quoting Pilot kaz (Reply 13):
Taken from T2 car park   Its prob one of the cheapest lens's out there but it does the job!(Sigma 55-200mm on a Canon EOS 350D) your very lucky I only shot a few departures that day lol.

Ah ok, last time I was 'spotting' at LHR was back when the Spectators Gallery up on top of T2 was open! Probably about 6yrs ago waiting for my brother to arrive on TAP!

The weather was particularly awful, once above cloud level though it was rather nice  Smile



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