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LH CAI-FRA A333 With Many Pic's. Surprise Included  
User currently offlineMohamed From Egypt, joined Jan 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9285 times:

After being a silence A.netter for 1,5 years i am finally a member . Today i will also include my first Trip report . I have been a reader of many Trip reports on A.net and thus i dedicate this Trip report to all Trip reporters that write those Long ,quality reports for total strangers ! I also dedicate to LH as it's the Airline i flew with . I will write this report in many tiles to take small pauses in the middle and for more relaxation .
Also excuse my mistakes , i will be making many. I won't use the spellcheck tough , it will take too long.

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Our Flight was on 21.7.2005 . We were flying out of Cairo to Europe for summer vacation. We took the afternoon flight with LH . Normally the A332's do this Job however i had the luck (or badluck ) to get on an A333.

FRA-CAI
Airbus A330-343X
LH D-AIKH


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We arrived at the airport early enough. There comes the first surprise : My Fathers tells us that he used miles to upgrade us to Biz !  bigthumbsup 

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/CairoAirport1.jpg
Cairo Airport from the outside.

Hopeful we went to check in. The check in agent was nice and made his Job well. Note that LH has the best Check in place in CAI . First + . But then the second surprise :NO BIZ ! C class is full so we have to fly in ECO !
 banghead  .At least we got seats in the front Minicabin (LH A333 has got a small ECO cabin with only 4 rows , very nice). Then the check in gave us the papers to enter the First class lounge. CAI Airport doesn't have a BIZ one so we go to the First one .

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/CairoLounge4.jpg

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http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/CairoLounge5.jpg

The gates at Cairo aren't special. What disturbed was the security agent. It was the second check and i had to take off Shoes,belt , CAM you know it  irked  . Our Aircaft at the gate

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/LHA333D-AIKHatlounge.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/AF.jpg
and Air France A332 to CDG "nebenan".

That's it for the beginning. The rest follows .


Don't mistake me by my age.
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User currently offlineMohamed From Egypt, joined Jan 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9263 times:

Going on. Boarding went well , we got on the aircaft pretty soon .
We went to our seats. I took my CAM and began shooting and shooting.

Here you go :

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LH Eco seats

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/Picture011.jpg
First row in the minicabin

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/Picture010.jpg
and again. The seat behind , you can see my Camera "Equipment" bag. Big grin

As passengers began coming i had to sit. Surprise number 3 : the seat su**s ! Never sit behing seats that are not parralel (the row infront ours was a 3 seat one , we were a 4 seat one). I nearley began crying for my legs ! How will I spend the next 4 hours here? I am tall , 1,79m long ! I began trying to accept my faith and making my self comfortable . No need . Surprise number 4 : The check in agent came and told us , that we could "upgrade" to the Exit seats as we were sopposed to sit infront . Yuhuu , me and my legs thought .
And there we went , to the exit seats . Small note , i liked to sit in the middle in LH because of the TV. Wasn't a fan of Window as i only could see the clouds
The exit seats only offered these small TV's so i didn;t request them . Big mistake. For some reason i forget to take a pic of my new seats (?) But a fellow A.netter made the Job for me.


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My seat is the one on the very front on the right side , where the guy with the headphones sits. Note that this is the same A/C as the one i flew. My compannion sat at the window for start and some 30 minutes into flight , Me the rest and landing with my CAM .

The Front View of my seat .
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/Myseat.jpg
As you see the "Lufthanseat" is talking on the TV. Finally the flight was to begin . However we got delayed for an hour because many pax's needed extra time @ security BLABLABLA .

Enough for now , Electrezety crashes are only waiting to come . Going on shortly.



Don't mistake me by my age.
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9234 times:

Mohamed,
Welcome on A.net !

Those pic´s of the F-louge @ CAI are great !

Quoting Mohamed (Reply 1):
I nearley began crying for my legs ! How will I spend the next 4 hours here? I am tall , 1,79m long !

If you are already complaining, can you imagine how a really big guy like me (1.92 cm) would feel ... ?  Smile
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineMohamed From Egypt, joined Jan 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9205 times:

And here we go again .
As the flight is some 6 months old , i forgot some details .
Finally we went for Takeoff ! The cabin crew prepared the cabin and then a filght attendant came and sat on the seat infront me. When i saw here she smiled and that's it. I can't really remember Takeoff , but i can remember that it was like all the other A330's i had flown. Here i want to talk a bit about the Aircraft. I Have flown practicaly all the Airbus widebodies except the A340NG and A380 of course.
I Have flown The A300 , A310 , A332 , A333 , A342 and A343. All with Lufthansa (nice name , isn't it ?  eyebrow  ) I cannot remember the A340 , all I remember that it was much more silent then the 767 (WAY MORE). Same with A310 (also much more silent then the KLM B767) . As i flew the A300 in this trip i will talk about it in it's report )later . The Big Duell is A332 with PW ex Sabena and A333 with RR (used here). The latter is way better . Those overhead bins just look so much better . i could also stand nearl vertical at the side ones , so they aren't that LOW ! However my hit was hitting it , so i guess they are 1,75m high .
In the middle section of my row , there was an egyptian couple with twins. The twins were silent the whole flight  relieved  and the crew made a great Job with them. They took some small beds from the galley and made them for the kids to sleep. Great Handling. However here comes a ? . Who makes these stuff LH , Airbus or Recaro ? or some third party company ?
In short the A333 (with the new interior ) is just great and relaxing . I would also like to add that the RR's are much more silent then the PW's . Way to go LH.

So far so good with LH . We reached altitude and the IFE began working. LH IFE is very bad in ECO .
Radio -> They say they have 21 radion channels in there magazine. I noticed however thet they have 31. On all 3 of my A333 flights ! There radio selection is nice and there techno/dance channel is realy nice . I Liked it on all flights . Here i heard first about Wolfsheim .
TV -> LH doesn't only have no PTV's , there on screen programm is bad. They also have PTV Boxes on the the A333 (?) why . That was part5 of my suffering in my previos seat .
The LH program is like this . AT first Euronews .Pretty nice , EN is also the Only news Channle that i watch on earth . Then an advert for Flynet .
Then Lufthansa magazin .That is a magazin that lasts about 45 minutes and is total LH Propaganda. I once read that LH magazine (TV and mgazine itself) are lowclass Journalism on A.net . I concentraded a bit and voila :That is so true.
For the german members , they can translate it better . A sentence that i can remember very well . About Coldplay :"Ihre Musik ist nicht einfach von der Stange ". That is there way of describing that there music is good . They forget that there is something called Style (I like coldplay) and a "Spruch" just isn't right i thought. This programm talks about some people , Biz andd Firstclass food served on LH ,Coldplay , Flynet and some other stuff.
After it some Flyshow and finally the Movie : The Pacifier ! Here a small notice . LH always shows S**ty movies to the middle east (IN ECO) and they are mostly for sale on DVD . Not good . The Pacifier is , just like a fellow A.netter said before my flight , a remake of Kindergarten Cup . As it was the only entertainment i watched it and it was normal , nothing special . But here comes Surprise number 5. Tell you about it later .
So far so good . And it's again time for a new post .



Don't mistake me by my age.
User currently offlineMohamed From Egypt, joined Jan 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9168 times:

HT , sei doch etwas geduldig !
Please wait until i am fertig !
And i can complain , i am still long and i have very long legs . Also haveng a 3seater infront of me made it worth .

Let us go on :
About one hour into the flight we were served food. As i am always hungry when flying i could'nt wait . (Small note , i am really thin , don't think i am fat . Thin and long) . I decided to make the food somehow classy ! Here you go and let the pictures speak .
(Small note , Every time i fly from germany to Fra my stomach hurts for the first 1 or 1,5 hour. Doesn't happen to me on any other flight (?). Only exception are all the A340 flight in my life , but in those i was still young . Si normally i ask for a nice "Kamilientee" (Germans , please translate) to tackle the pain . Now back to food .

First course
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/LHECOfirstcourse.jpg

One nice tea with the entree, a Salty MIX .

Second and main course
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/LHECOsecondcourse.jpg
I could choose between beef and chicken . I went for beef .
As you see nicley presnted with salad and cake and tomato juice

Close schot of the beef
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/LHECOsharpshoot.jpg

Third course
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/LHECOthirdcourse.jpg
The second Salty Mix is from my complainion .

It isn't hard to make ECO to First .  Silly

Verdict : The entree and the third course were quite nice . The main course however was poor . Lufthansa has introduced a new smaller plate with even less food . Bad ! Also the food itself had less quality . Worse ! The meal had to first times for me , tough . First time i didn't eat the salad , which was rather untasty , but first time i ate the dessert on LH. (Second time all in all , first time was on SV one month before. Trip report to come ) .

After food i went to the rear galley and found something that added a great pleasure to my flight . Way to go LH ! The crew had set up a small bar with water , orange , apple juice and beer . Some guys were also chatting.

Thru the flight i made many pics from the window : Enjoy
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/Picture023edit.jpg


Do youn notice anything special here ? Pls reply !

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/LHA333Winglets.jpg
Pice of Art .

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Just look at the clouds . Fantastic and Boombastic isn't it ?  Silly

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/Pictures027.jpg
Some mountains somewhere in the world .

Enough for now .
There will be one last part . Don't change the channel



Don't mistake me by my age.
User currently offlineMohamed From Egypt, joined Jan 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9103 times:

The last episode of the long CAI-FRA Journey

Now i would like to rate the seat. Remember that i was on the exit seat.
For the seat pitch , i could stretch my Leg so far i wanted , if i am using my seatbelt i cannot touch anything. Even a taller guy wouldn't be able . That is nice . The pro of the exit seats is the extra pitch and the good view for the TV. As it is the first row in the second ECO cabin you get food served first . At last you don't need one excuse me in window seat to get out . Place enough .
The cons are however many too . For example the tables in the side might be disturbing , and they take some seat width . I like them however , more then the normal folding tables . The seat width is no problem. Both seat share one seatpocket on the side of the window . That isn't nice . The pocket is already to it's limit with two magazine packs (with barf bags,shopping etc.) You can't put a newspaper or so . Unpractical . Also you are right behind the WC's , so if a qeue gets formed 2 or 3 people stand in YOUR Legroom  Angry . Also legroom in the aisle seat is horrible when the F/A sits during Takeoff and landing . At last you don't have the extra pocket in the seat infornt of you like the other seats . I think that those pockets are practical and pretty useful . Also the exit seats only have one window so the aisle passenger can't really sea outside. In short , think twice before requesting the exit seats .
The seat itself is normal. The headrest is nice . Sitting isn't painful like in some cras for long time. (Specificly every Opel /Vauxhaul middle seat behind ) You also get those extremly nice pillows and blankets. The useless PTV boxes are also very disturbing. Over all the seat is nice and I would request the Exit seats for my next time.

Back to the flight . After finishing the food and watching the movie (not all) , i went to the toilet . Also i am slow eater i finished eraly enought not to have to wait in a qeue. The rest fast eating passengers were however blocked by Duty free  devil  . The toilet had abseloutly no Amneties . It was ,however , clean and veru nice and slightly spacy . Good , Airbus . The only problem was when i wanted to throw some wet towls away . I didn't find any bin (Or the entrance to it ) so i just did what i had done one month before on SV while encountering the same situation . I just opened the small drawer down there and threw the towels in the bin . Works  thumbsup  . Every time . By now i know where i should click next time .

I went back and found the qeue !  relieved  . Wasn't long tough .
Here comes the fifth and promised surprise ! The screens turned black , Just like in FS . Working perfectly and in one second black . And that is it . i barley saw 3/4 of the movie and wanted to see the rest (it wasn't THAT bad) and it crashed . Only sound . What disturbs is that happened to me the flight before when returning in 2004 from FRA on LH A333 (D-AIKB) . It also crashed here .
Something very similiar happened while returning this year , wait for the trip report for more details ) . So it happened three times IN A ROW ! Bad .

Later the descend began and the Flightshow was being showed on the screen.
FRA was typical grey

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/hegs/germany%202005/Pictures032e.jpg
LH A333 while on final

Here happens the last bad surprise number 6 . I was filming the Landing with my Camera . I came until the Autobahn and was filming . The Runway was then visible and 1 sec later the camera crashed. Batterys were dead ! I had new batterys for this flight ! Brand new ones  banghead  . You can imagine how pissed off i was . Landing was smooth and normal . We taxied and had to wait on the taxiways for some time for landing aircraft .

Next Trip Report FRA-LHR in BIZ . Will be much shorter tough .
I Hope you enjouyed it as much as i did , fantastic flight with LH . Also it doesn't appear that good (IFE , ECO , food) but was my best ECO flight in my life . Really enyoid it . The Airbus is really good . i will comment more detailed in some time . Leave your comments , questions now .



Don't mistake me by my age.
User currently offlineMohamed From Egypt, joined Jan 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 9068 times:

Ratings :
5/10 for food
9/10 for seat
8/10 for service/creq
11/10 for aircaft
6/10 for IFE (Giving the radio 4/4 and the TV 2/6)

39/50 = 8/10
All in all very nice flight. Would repeat it any time . Give LH ECO a break . Altough it offers nothing special and lacks some stuff , the flight with the "Kranich" was pretty nice and a maximum of Joy.
For more pic's Go to myaviation.net , Photographer search and insert mohamed momtaz . Or go ti Sony Imagestation and look for Egyptian airports , featuring a bit more pic's of CAI . Also i am planning to right more reports including
LH BIZ FRA-LHR
EZY LTN-DRT
SV ECO CAI-MED
SV ECO JED-CAI
and most importantly LH FRA-CAI .
Wait for those either in the next 2 weeks or on 6 months (school).

Please don't hesitate to ask for the smallest detail , and don't hesitate to answer my questions above. I also argue every reader with A.net membership to leave a comment with his opinion.
 wave   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   wave 



Don't mistake me by my age.
User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 9031 times:

Excellent trip report and welcome to a.net Big grin

Quoting Mohamed (Thread starter):
Normally the A332's do this Job however i had the luck (or badluck ) to get on an A333.

Don't worry, it was good luck, the LH 333's are so much better than the 332's  Smile

I can't wait for you next trip reports, especialy the SV ones  Smile

I'm glad you enjoyed LH, the seats seem realy nice, if only they had PTV's  cloudnine 

Nice pics!

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8936 times:

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LOL du bist sehr lustig. Ich habe viel gelacht. Thank you for your very amusing report.


User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8872 times:

@ Mohamed,
You state that you write the TR in miltiple parts because you have problems with a stable connection ... ?
I write my TR´s offline in a simple wordprocessing program (something like MS-WORD or even in an e-mail program).
After the TR is finished I go online and just copy & paste the whole pre-written TR (including the links to pictures) into a new thread on A.net and voila, the TR gets online on A.net.
Saves a lot of online-time (I use a dial-up connection; no flatrate).
Using a laptop computer, this way it´s also possible to start writing TRs while still conducting the journey itself.

Quoting Mohamed (Reply 4):
HT , sei doch etwas geduldig !
Please wait until i am fertig !

My words were meant to encourage you; I´m far from being impatient  Smile

Have fun,
-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineMohamed From Egypt, joined Jan 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 8781 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 7):
Don't worry, it was good luck, the LH 333's are so much better than the 332's {Smile}

The -300's are definitely better then the -200's , Although the latter is still a fantastic aircraft. At LH they also have PTV's , however with only 5 channels I have my doubts . So I can't really decide.

Quoting Semsem (Reply 8):

LOL du bist sehr lustig. Ich habe viel gelacht. Thank you for your very amusing report.

Your welcome . Glad you enjoyed.

@HT
It's is not the connection , I have ADSL (similar to DSL) and if it cuts I will copy paste everything into a Wordpad. I Have thought of your idea , too. However I prefer writing it online for the links and so. Also I didn't really mean connection , I meant "Strom" ! Electrezity ! Just yesterday I was working on some excel file and the electricity got cut for 2 seconds letting my computer turn off. Offline wouldn't help much .

Quoting HT (Reply 9):
My words were meant to encourage you; I´m far from being impatient Smile

No problem , Thanks. Just wanted to complete the TR first . Thanks again


Does anybody think one of those pic's is A.net worthy ?



Don't mistake me by my age.
User currently offlineRen41 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8748 times:

Great report.

Quoting Mohamed (Reply 4):
Do youn notice anything special here ? Pls reply !

Is that an eclipse?

R41


User currently offlineMohamed From Egypt, joined Jan 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8712 times:

Thanks .
What is an eclipse ? Do you mean when the sun get's behind the moon ?
No it isn't. Something different .



Don't mistake me by my age.
User currently offlineTg 747-300 From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 1318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8155 times:

Quoting Mohamed (Thread starter):
Do youn notice anything special here ? Pls reply !

Well, the spoilers are partially deployed. Since it looks like you're @ crusing altitude it might seem a bit strange. But since only the inboard spoilers are deployed, I'll guess they are acting as roll spoilers. (right turn)
Actually I was under the impression that when using spoliers to roll, only a few inboard spoiler panels are deployd, and not as many as in the pic. But hey, I'm not an A330 expert.

tg 747-300



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User currently offlineMSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7306 times:

Salam Mohamed , what a nice and different way to write a TT .
Welcome to A.Net .
I was on an Austrian Airlines A330 3 weeks ago , it was my first time on this type of Aircraft and i have to share your opinion and say it is a nice A/C .



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