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User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17298 times:

Hi all,

First off...this is probably the longest report in A.net history, lol, a lot of pictures, and 4 legs isnt the lightest load of a trip report. I included a hell of a lot of pictures since I feel thats what interests a lot of people the most. Therefore, I hope you enjoy this report  Wink
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Well I had some free roundtrip tickets leftover from Spring Break 2005 (Volunteered on oversold flights)...so I decided to take a drip down to LAX to visit some family members. I've been meaning to do this trip report and others for such a long time but, either I never had time, or, I just didnt feel like it.

Reading through tons of trip reports today I finally have the urge to write this one, sorry for the delay!

Anyways, getting down to business, here we go:

August 5th, 2005
FNT-ATL
Flight 261 (TRS261)
Aircraft: 717-200
Registration: N946AT
Seat Assignment: 18A
Load Factor: 95%

I arrived into FNT at about noon time for my departure to Atlanta. The flight was scheduled to leave around 2pm if I remember correctly. There was a small line of maybe around 15 people or so checking in. The agents here in FNT, once again, just like my past experiences, very extremely friendly (they were actually some of the same people that gave me my vouchers a few months before). Checked my luggage and was on my way.

Went ahead and passed through security, wasnt "selected" for additional screening fortunately, but they were VERY curious about my digital camera (Sony F717). "Sir, you're going to need to turn that on". I thought that was pretty weird...Then, they wanted to look through the lens. I ended up removing the lens cap, even snapped a photo for the guy who was looking at it. He then ok'd it and I proceeded to the gate area.

I was surprised to see what appeared to be my plane (an AirTran 717) already at the gate. It was only about 12:30 or so and I expected it to arrive about 1hr-1hr15mins before departure. I figured it might have came in early. It was parked at Gate 4, but my tickets said Gate 5 (which was empty)...I wasnt sure what the deal was, and the gate area was also heavily packed, so I sat near Gate 3 (Which in August is vacant, now its used by American Eagle). I trolled up to Gate 4 and sure enough, 'Atlanta' was the destination.

I went back to Gate 3 and relaxed. Spotted a couple C-172's land, though no traffic at all really. Then, suddenly, an AirTran 717 appeared rolling down the runway, full flaps, thrust reverers deployed... I was confused. Why is there an AirTran 717 parked at Gate 4, and one that just landed? The one that landed parked at Gate 5. Surely there is not 2 Atlanta-Bound AirTran flights around the same time...there was still an hour before departure.

I checked the aircraft at Gate 4, whoops... "DELAYED", it was the 10:30am flight! Still hadn't left the gate and was Delayed for almost **3 HOURS!!**. My flight was the one that just landed. This explains the heavily (heavily for FNT) packed area around the gates.

Boarding began about 25-30 minutes before departure, almost a couple minutes after the flight from Atlanta pulled into Gate 5 and deplaned. As they were deplaning, the delayed 717 at Gate 4 was boarding to Atlanta. They ended up pushing back and taxiing to the runway about 10mins before we pushed, and at the same time an AirTran 737-700 landed from Vegas and parked at Gate 4 (luckily the delayed 717 left just in time). I managed to see everyone get off the 737 just before I boarded - it looked like the flight was pretty loaded for being a new route in the system. Anyways, I asked the gate agent if the flight was looking oversold (I wanted more vouchers, lol), she said it wasnt and there was a couple seats left. I boarded the aircraft and was greeted by 2 young-Fa's (Probably in their twenties?). I was surprised to notice we had an all african-american fa's onboard and even an african american first officer too who was outside walking around the plane.

On the ramp parked at gate 5 shortly before pushback


About 5 seconds before we were rolling during pushback


Northwest DC-9-30 Taxiing to runway 27 bound for DTW


I was excited to see XM Satellite Radio installed on this aircraft and couldent wait to get in the air to try it out. We pushed back from the gate just about right on time. Shortly after pushback, Engine #1 started, along with #2 shortly thereafter, and we did a 270' right turn to taxi to runway 27 for departure.

Swinging around about 270 degrees

Fedex's 727's, one from Indianapolis, the other from Memphis

N223FE

N493FE

Almost to the runway, if you look closely you'll spot the AirTran 737 parked at Gate 4, way left side of the picture


We taxied to the hold short line of runway 27...not even coming to a complete stop, and were cleared for takeoff. I was surprised when one of the pilots said ' Flight attendants prepare for departure ' when the engines were throttling up and we were already rolling. Not much time to prepare ehh? lol...

Takeoff Video! Go here:
http://www.flightlevel350.com/viewer.php?id=4092

Shortly after departure we did a 180 to the right, went straight east, then a straight shot south (Most likely overflying DTW). Our cruise altitude was FL330 for this flight. Very smooth climbout and flight.

Just after the 180 to the right

View of some homes on the ground

Turning to head almost straight south

Leveling the wings, though still climbing

Getting closer to Detroit...

There it is-Downtown!


About 10 minutes after takeoff...We just about reached 33000 feet. I was trying to figure out what the deal is with my XM Radio and the asterisk it was displaying. I was expecting some kind of number (like a channel), not an asterisk...I hoped that the system was not broken. As the FA came around distributing our in flight snacks, I asked her and she said the whole plane's XM Radio is not working except in First Class. I was pretty disappointed...But oh well.

This is what I saw:


Our in flight snack consisted of AirTran-packaged Pretzels, a tastey napkin, and something to drink. I always ask for a -can- of pop, not for the tiny cups they distribute. I asked the FA for a can and she gladly said "Sure!" and gave me the can and a cup full of ice, which was nice.

The in flight snack


About 10 minutes after snacks were distributed...the FA's came around and collected our trash. The flight was pretty uneventful so far...We were somewhere over Cincinatti I presume (in Ohio for sure because it was shortly after departure) that I noticed clouds...I started to wonder what the whether was like in ATL...



I started noticing CB's and towering cumulus clouds ahead of our plane. About 5 minutes later the captain came on and said we're going to do some maneuvering around thunderstorms surrounding the Atlanta area. I was pretty excited that between then and our arrival to Atlanta...it was going to get a bit interesting.

Photo of the towering cumulus clouds...shot in conjunction with a rear-engined aircraft cruising at high altitude (I have a couple closer shots that I didnt post here, but it looks like a private jet from what I could make out)


All the weather phenomenon and maneuvering through them as we progress towards Atlanta.







A PSA US Airways Express CRJ-700 passes below us around Atlanta. I'm venturing a guess that this plane probably is from CLT going somewhere west of the state of Georgia (BNA, IAH, etc.)

Descending into Atlanta







We were just about lined up for an 8L approach into Atlanta...The descent through the clouds actually was not that bumpy. I started the video and...you can go here to see it!:

http://www.flightlevel350.com/viewer.php?id=4068

The landing was smooth...we exited to the right, and taxied past Concourse E (International Concourse)...I spotted this Delta 767-300, and, when seeing that lone container next to the engine, it caused me to remember that picture floating around on the internet with the L1011 Delta aircraft with a container stuck in the engine. Almost looks like this 763' is about to share the same fate!:


A Memphis bound Mesaba Avro-RJ-85 staring us down as we pass by

A Milwaukee bound Midwest 717 Lookin good in blue

Visible in this photo: Delta 763', KLM 763', Omni Air DC-10-30, Delta 772', Mesaba ARJ85', Midwest 712', and in the far distance, World Airways MD11'

I'll have a medium, small, and a large to go.

Random taxi shot

Tail shot of another AirTran 717'

ASA CRJ cruising on by

Continental 737-700 bound for Houston, ready to roll


Northwest A320 bound for MSP

Another ASA CRJ, waiting for us to pull into concourse C

The lineupb]

[b]Engine Shutdown next to N998AT - Welcome to ATL!



We finally pulled into the gate in concourse C after our nonstop taxi...This was my first time in ATL, I waited till everyone offloaded before I exited the aircraft. I entered the concourse for the first time...WOW is this place *PACKED*! People sitting on the floor, crowded as hell, crowds of people walking, seats all taken, babies crying, sheeeez! No wonder its the #1 busiest airport in the world. I trecked my way through the massive crowds of people scattered all over the place to the farthest south-end of Concourse C. I knew there were windows there from shots on airliners.net, so I wanted to spot for the 5 hour layover I had.

I sat there for about 3 hours, spotted tons of aircraft depart and land. Not going to list them all of course, you get the picture, though the most significant are: Omni Air DC-10 depart, KLM 763' depart, Fedex 727 land, couple Delta 772's departing, etc. Also watched the earlier flight to LAX, flight 43, depart.

Went to Checkers in Concourse B for some food...damn I havent had checkers since I lived in Florida, was good. They dont have it in Michigan. Went back to Concourse C where my plane was already waiting, N267AT. I believe it was at gate C16 or so, right in the middle of concourse C. The gate area was pretty packed.

August 5th, 2005
ATL-LAX
Flight 41 (TRS41)
Aircraft: 737-700
Registration: N267AT
Seat Assignment: 31E (The only 2 seats in coach, I had the window last row right side)
Load Factor: 100%

The flight was 100% booked and wasnt oversold. I believe it was about 97% booked but standbys took the rest of the seats. I heard the FA in the galley behind me (I had the last row right side, window seat. The window seat is actually missing, so there was TON of space to put stuff. I could almost fit a carry-on suitcase in that spot but cant cause of the curvature of the fuselage) stating that this is the first time this flight is leaving on time for the last week. I knew she was right, because I tracked it for about a week (to get route information and on time performance information)...usually it ran 1-2 hours late. Today, though, 100% on time.

At the gate parked alongside some compan7 717's


Concourse B behind us

We pushed on time...engines revved up and we were rolling for a departure on 9R. Small line ahead of us, a Delta MD-88, couple Delta 767's, a 737-800 Delta. After taxiing, the crew dimmed the lights. I was stunned at the beautiful cabin during night - WOW! The night lighting in these 737NG's (at least the new ones or AirTrans planes) is just awesome. This was my first night flight in a couple years.

What I believe to be a Delta 737-800 taking off 9R


We taxied into position 9R and held. I had flown the 737-700 before with Continental and already knew the sound of a 737NG takeoff. Doesnt really sound like an engine when near full throttle...more like a rocket. Engines revved up, very slight whining sound when halfway throttled, though when near full power it sounds more like a rocket/space shuttle.

The takeoff roll was quite long, we rotated past the 'FLY DELTA JETS" hanger close to 8R. Our cruise altitude to be was 37000, FL370. *NOTE* - Sorry no videos! Flightlevel350 doesnt accept night-videos! I have the takeoff video and landing video in LAX, all night time, but cant find a place to put them on the net?!

Night shot during climbout from ATL, hard to see anything


In flight service began about 20 minutes after reaching FL360. We had the same thing we had on the ATL-FNT flight, pretzels and a can of something to drink. The flight was ultra smooth. The air conditioning was set just right, the lights were beautiful in the cabin, I think i'll become addicted to night-flying on AirTran. The flight attendants were nice, but one was pissing me off. She saw me with a camera when landing in LAX and she said "Uh excuse me sir...no electronics can be on, please turn that off". I was thinking about saying that its a camera and that it doesnt interefere with anything on the plane, therefore it can stay on. I agreed and turned it off. I waited till the pilots said 'Flight attendants please be seated for arrival', then I turned it back on when they were strapped in, haha. So I did get the landing video at LAX at night, though, flightlevel350 wouldent accept it.

Flight was about 4hrs 45mins in length. We began our descent into LAX. Previously we flew the PDZ4 arrival into LAX, I could sense by the turns that we were flying it this time. We landed on 24R in LAX, cleared the active, and began our taxi to Terminal 3.

Couple shots include a Mexicana A319 or A320, 2 Quantas 747-400's a China Airlines 747-400, and a Midwest 717 we parked next to.





We parked at the gate in Terminal 3 and exited the aircraft. Upon exiting I saw someone standing in the gate (about 5ft from the door) who looked like a pilot though he was young. I asked "Were you one of the pilots for this flight?", he said yes, first officer. I said "Oh really, how was the Paradise 4 arrival into LAX?"...he had a surprised look on his face, and said "It was pretty fun! We were above the glideslop for 24R so we had to use the spoilers a bit there and slow her down to descend a bit more...then we captured it more accurately". I ended up in a discussion with him for about 10 minutes about being a pilot and a pilot for AirTran and such. It was awesome to speak in a casual conversation with a pilot, a lot of them seem to have power-trips or think they're superior than others (i'm an aspiring airline pilot, training right now for my PPL, and i've noticed this with some guys even flying 172's), this guy was cool and would talk to anyone with a casual conversation. He was probably 25-28 years old or so, quite young to be flying the 737NG (versus the 717 in the fleet)!

It was a nice way to round up those flights Big grin


Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
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User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17283 times:

August 10th, 2005
LAX-ATL
Flight 60 (TRS60) (The Redeye!)
Aircraft: 737-700
Registration: N267AT
Seat Assignment: 31E (The only 2 seats in coach, I had the window last row right side)
Load Factor: 100%

Well I returned to LAX, not in a car, but on a UAX CRJ-200 from PHX. On the 10th I flew BUR-PHX, stayed in PHX for the day, then back to LAX, for my AirTran flight. Thats another trip report, but...I was exhausted for this AirTran redeye flight.

I hauled 100 pounds of luggage and my cart from Terminal 8 to Terminal 3. I walked the whole distance with this. Not only that but I started on terminal 8 arrivals and had to get to the upper floor, departures for Terminal 3. Thank god there was an elevator near Terminal 3, though I dont think it was for that purpose, LOL. It took me about 15 minutes to walk from T8 to T3 with 100 pounds of luggage, camera case and my carry on luggage. I really didnt mind, I usually think of that stuff in a positive way "Good workout", lol.

Got to Terminal 3 and it was very empty. Hardly any staff behind counters, pretty dead. All I saw was a Midwest Airlines counter and the AirTran counter when I walked in. I went to the AirTran counter where AirTran rep's were chit chatting. Thankfully they stopped when I wanted to check in my luggage. They put the tags on the luggage 1 by 1...and, I was waiting for them to put it on the conveyor belt behind them (which wasnt moving), but they didnt. I was dumbfounded...uh, what do I do with these? "Oh, you're going to have to take them to that big machine right there (like 15ft away - the CRT scanner in the middle of the hallway/terminal)". What kind of Terminal is this?

I dragged everything over there, where only 2 security guys were working. 1 behind the massive CRT machines' screen, the other stacking everyones luggage. He took my 2 checked bags and then I proceeded through normal security, and enter the concourse. That was the WEIRDEST and wackiest luggage checkin i've ever seen and/or experienced. The way those security personels were checking those checked bags (2 guys, only 1 watching?) didnt make me feel safe at all, but whatever, still had to fly.

I proceeded to the end of Terminal 3. I grabbed something from Burger King and ate there. Proceeded to the gate, which was not directly in the O-shaped part of the terminal, it was like off to the side (the most eastern-side of Terminal 3), down a hallway. Was a weird gate area. I couldent get the reg # of the plane, though I was curious what it was. Boarding began...this flight looked like all the passengers were half-dead. They were all droopy-eyed, looked dirty, like a long days of work (I myself looked dirty from that PHX-BUR-LAX ordeal, hauling tons of luggage, long distance walking, etc.). We boarded, load factor was 100%. I sat in the same seat that I flew ATL-LAX on, and I noticed this plane had the same weird slight squeeky sound coming from my seat, sounded exactly the same as the plane I flew on.

I had a feeling this was the same plane because the chances of 31E on other AirTran 737ng's having the same slight squeeky sound was little to none.

Here we are parked at the gate, beside us to our right is a Midwest 717, AirTran 717, and an Alaska 737 (Not sure which type).


We pushed on time, the flight was 100% loaded. The engines revved up and we began our taxi to 24L for departure. Here we are crossing a Hawaiian 767-300:


*NOTE* I have videos of the takeoff from LAX and landing in ATL. Both are night time videos. Both were -Not- accepted on FL350 because they're night. Sorry for the inconvienence, if someone could find a hosting site (free) that'd be great!

Departure from 24L was pretty powerful, just like ATL though it seemed we rotated faster this time.

We climbed to our cruise altitude of 37000 feet. This flight was literally exactly the same as the ATL-LAX, just with different pilots and FA's. We had the same snack, pretzels, the same drinks, even the same napkins. The FA's were nicer this time around, nobody questioned my camera.

I dozed off somewhere over PHX because I was so tired. I woke up only to look out the window and notice the flaps at 15 degrees and about 15-20 miles from 8L in ATL. I couldent see a thing except the wing. We were coming in for Landing and I seriously thought we were crashing or something weird was going on.

I look out the window and I could sense we're close to the ground but I didnt know what was going on. There were these weird lights and things floating in the air, I was like "Wtf is going on?". I never experienced such a thing - it looked like some kind of UFO's were outside the aircraft.

After we landed I finally figured out what the hell it was - FOG!

Alien Invasion!?!


My camera focused in that picture better. Without the camera all I saw were tons of halo-orange lights all over the place.

We taxiied to the farthest South-end of Terminal D. Departed the aircraft and right next to us was the SFO flight that just came in about 5-10 minutes afterwards. Disembarked the aircraft and checked to get the reg - N267AT! It was the same plane I flew ATL-LAX with the week prior. Forgot to mention, this plane had 'XM Radio Coming Soon!' sticker on the armrests, so I didnt get to experience XM on this flight either.

Atlanta was completely empty, really. A lot different than when I flew ATL-LAX (of course that was evening hours). It was pleasant when nobody is around. I proceeded to concourse C where my flight to FNT was awaiting.

August 11th, 2005
ATL-FNT
Flight 254 (TRS254)
Aircraft: 717-200
Registration: N951AT
Seat Assignment: 18A
Load Factor: 115%

This flight was scheduled to leave around 8:40am or so. I had about 3 hour layover in Atlanta. It was interesting to see all the pilots walking about...Delta pilots, I saw the pilots of a Continental Express (ExpressJet) ERJ, it sticks in my head because one was female and they were getting coffee. I watched them go to the gate parked with the ERJ in concourse D (before I left concourse D).

I was back in Concourse C at the gate...my aircraft was waiting. It was summer but the airport was ICE COLD in the morning - I was shivering! Others were freezing too. It was warmer outside than inside, so the windows had a hell of a lot of condensation. It was hard to look out of them sometimes.

The boarding area was packed. Boarding began and they announced they were oversold by ***10*** PEOPLE + 6 STANDBYS! Geez! They were desperately seeking volunteers. I was exhausted but I asked them how many free tickets can I get. They said 1. I said i'll do it for 2 (like I got back in March) but otherwise no because i'm too tired. They said 1 and thats it, no more. I said "well what time can you get me into FNT?"...they offered to get me into FNT around 1:30-2pm or so. I was so tired I didnt feel like spending another 6 hours in the ice-cold concourse C in the morning shivering for 1 roundtrip ticket, so i didnt take it. I stated i'll take it if they put me on Delta Connection to FNT, they stated they dont do that (I know most airlines dont do this but I try anyways). I believe only 4 people volunteered their seats. 6 Confirmed people were out of luck, and 4 standbys were screwed also. I heard the agents saying that the 1:30pm FNT arrival was booked 100% also but they were hoping people wont shop up. People were pretty pissed.

I boarded the aircraft, packed like hell. Here we are at the gate:


This plane had no XM Satellite radio, period, nothing installed in the armrests. I had some annoying baby screaming in front of me, and his dad encouraging it. The kid was shooting stuff around the cabin and hit someone in the head I believe with some kind of toy (something where you push a button and the top pops off and goes flying). When we landed in FNT his dad was on his knees looking for the top, nobody offered to tell him where it is (I dont blame them  Yeah sure )

The aircraft pushed on time. We were extremely heavy, because we were also hauling all the overbooked peoples checked luggage.

Here we are about 5-10mins before push


Pushing back, few of Concourse B



The engines revved up and we were on our way to 8R for departure.

The morning rush - a UAL 733 bound for ORD, a Delta 732', and an ASA CRJ2'

The Delta 732' is on the runway commencing takeoff, while the ASA CRJ holds short, with an America West A320 bound for PHX waiting, along with an ASA CRJ-700, plus a Delta 767-300, 737-200, and another Delta 763'

The line keeps getting bigger...and bigger! Another Delta 767-300 joins the line, along with a Northwest A320, a Comair CRJ, and an ASA CRJ, and our 717 next!

New Colors AirTran 717 arriving from Pittsburgh


We finally taxiied onto the runway for an immediate takeoff. It was about a 10-15 minute wait for those aircraft to depart.

The takeoff roll - the 717 using all its might to get its heavy payload off the ground
http://www.flightlevel350.com/viewer.php?id=4097

If you notice, we used a TON of runway for a 717 on takeoff. Almost the whole length of 8R...and the takeoff roll was long, then you'll notice the hesitation to actually get into the air (the plane kind of "sits" 5-10 ft off the ground for a moment before actually ascending)...signs to me that the plane is heavy from my experiences, which is pretty cool. About 2 secs before pitching up, you'll see a Delta MD-88 clearing 8L, that bird is actually from Detroit DTW.

Climbing to cruise altitude


We were told by the captain before takeoff that we'd be cruising at FL330, though upon leveling off at cruise he stated we we've leveled off at 28000 ft.

Still climbing

Leveled off finally


The usual service. The FA's were older FA's, not too personable and you kind of got the sense that they just wanted to get their service over with and that'd be the last time you see them.

We had the AirTran pretzels, and drinks, and the napkin. The Pretzels were expired and stale. For such a piddly bag, thats not that great of an impression, lol...Trash was collected right when they finished giving out the snacks, I hurried up and ate the rest of the pretzels. That was basically it for inflight service.

Descending into Michigan



Hmm I looked up this airport back in September but I dont recall what it is now...Its somewhere in Michigan though for sure, around the Detroit Area


The descent into FNT seemed to take forever. The pilots came in extremely slow with slats and some slight flaps extended a ways out from the airport...was the slowest approach i've ever experienced - I doubt it was ATC reasons being that we're dealing with FNT here. Couple turns here and there and we were finally lined up for runway 9 in FNT.

The landing in FNT!
http://www.flightlevel350.com/viewer.php?id=4098

The pilot made a nice smooth landing (just like all AirTran flights - I havent experienced a rough landing yet on any AirTran flight i've been on). We taxiied to the gate, engines were shutdown, I snapped a couple shots before disembarking:

Parked at the gate, engines just shutdown

Northwest DC93 parked at Gate 2 awaiting departure to DTW

A Comair CRJ-200 in New-Old Colors arrives runway 9 from CVG



After disembarking, I claimed my luggage, went home, and went to sleep. After flying BUR-PHX-LAX-ATL-FNT within a 24 hour time span I was basically waisted.

Well anyways, I hope you all enjoyed this extremely long, though thorough, trip report. Took a long time to complete it, about 2.5-3hrs, though hey...a lot of information to share.

Coming soon:

BUR-PHX America West A320
PHX-LAX United Express Skywest CRJ-200

Flying these next month:

FNT-LAS Nonstop, AirTran, 737-700 (Free ticket again, lol)
LAS-BUR Nonstop, Southwest, 737-X00 (Type to be announced)
LAX-ATL-FNT, AirTran, 737-700 & 717-200 (Conjunction w/free ticket on FNT-LAS)

thanks everyone!



Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17279 times:

Hey, that was a cool TR. Great pics and vids...except it's in the wrong forum. Big grin

User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4748 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17262 times:

great trip report. Glad you enjoyed AirTran... Do their 73Gs have any in-flight entertainment?

(Mods will prob move to the Trip Report forum).



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17242 times:

Crap - LOL, Sorry!

I know its supposed to be in the TR forum, I could have sworn I selected that!

If the mods could move it to the Trip Reports forum that'd be much appreciated - Thanks & Sorry for the error!

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 3):
Do their 73Gs have any in-flight entertainment?

Currently they all are supposed to have XM Satellite Radio, but when I flew them back in August all they had was a sticker in the armrest that said 'XM Radio Coming Soon!' in the spot where the keypad/channel selector for the radio was supposed to be.

I'll find out in about 4 weeks though how good that XM Satellite Radio is and if they indeed finished it on the 73G's  Wink



Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 17197 times:

Great TR sounds like fun to fly all that distance. Great pics and videos also.

 airplane jetBlueAtJFK airplane 



When You Know jetBlue, You Know Better
User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 16891 times:

Quoting Warszawa (Thread starter):
I was surprised to notice we had an all african-american fa's onboard and even an african american first officer too who was outside walking around the plane.

Just out of my own curiousity, why was this so surpriing to you?


User currently offlineNWA757boy From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 16877 times:

Great report! Hot pics and vids!

I am definitely going to try Airtrans product sometime this year....I love their 717s and their paint scheme. I fly from DTW-RSW almost every month and so far have flown NW or DL....since FL flies DTW-ATL-RSW and FNT-RSW it wouldnt be an inconvience at all. Are you from the FNT area? DTW is a lot closer for me to fly out of....I have priced tickets out of FNT before and not much of a difference. Anyhow great report! Smile


Zach


User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 16813 times:

NWA757boy - thanks, i've flown AirTran FNT-MCO, and this trip (FNT-ATL-LAX-ATL-FNT) and so far i've enjoyed all of their flights.

Their aircraft are very nice too, all brand new. I cant imagine what its like with the XM Radio now, cant wait to try that out in 4 weeks.

I live in Lapeer County (about 45mins-1hr east of FNT) so FNT is my main airport...I try to avoid DTW at all costs, lol. In reality its more worth it for me to pay $50 extra on a roundtrip ticket to fly out of FNT then spend that in gas plus the increased parking rates in DTW...plus the hassle. Most of the fares around FNT are like you said...almost the same for DTW so I just fly out of FNT, maybe slightly more expensive.

You havent flown DTW-RSW yet with Spirit though? I'd expect them to be one of the cheapest on the route, maybe same price as Northwest.



Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
User currently offlineNWA757boy From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 676 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 16766 times:

I have flown DTW-RSW with NK.....a few years ago....they were at the time, priced the same as NW....and I check their prices every so often now and they are the same...sometimes a bit more

[Edited 2006-01-22 23:54:34]

User currently offlinePJ295 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 16579 times:

Your mystery airport is Jackson
http://airnav.com/airport/KJXN

Great trip report! I know those Airtran ATL-FNT flights all too well. I live in the ATL area but my family lives back in FNT. As you noted the departure out to Atlanta ftom Flint is a little odd. Every time I have flown on that flight you take off head due east to a point between Imlay City and Port Huron and Then head due south over Detroit. I guess that is to get you up to altitude and not to mess with the Polar 1 arrival (for DTW) a little south of FNT.


User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 16532 times:

Quoting PJ295 (Reply 10):
Imlay City

Actually thats where I live, lol. Generally they always turn south around Lapeer (like 90% of the time). Last summer I recall standing in the garage outside and heard a loud jet-engine sound...Looked and you could clearly tell it was an AirTran 717 banking to the right, just south of my house (literally overhead almost).

Also seen it turn south of Port Huron (was hard to see, used my 10x binocs) though only once. Whats interesting is that...I dont think the ASA CRJ's follow the turn towards the east, then south, though i'm not sure since I never track them.

If you've flown ATL-FNT on AirTran, have you flown Delta's CRJ's on the route? If so, compared to AirTran, which do you prefer?



Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
User currently offlineCougaraviator From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 16286 times:

Great trip report and fantastic pics!!!!

BTW, how would you compare AirTran to Southwest?

Thanks!!!



Failure is not an option.....
User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 16187 times:

Quoting Cougaraviator (Reply 12):
BTW, how would you compare AirTran to Southwest?

Thanks,

I havent flown Southwest yet. I have kind of avoided them because i've heard a lot of bad...and a lot of good. Maybe i've been brainwashed by some of the WN bashers here on airliners.net, lol. Therefore, I tend to avoid them if possible without even giving them a chance.

BUT, I grudingly decided to book WN LAS-BUR next month when i'm in LAS. I had a choice: Mesa America West Express, CRJ-200, leaving 1hr earlier, or SWA2494, last flight into BUR and get to stay in LAS an extra hour.

After reading the S--tlist for Mesa thread that was on airliners.net here, I booked with WN. I had to call because i'm booking 3 people and they only had 2 Internet-One-Way fares left. It wouldent let me book 1 Fun Fare and 2 Internet fares in one booking online.

I called them and talked to a southern-voice woman who was EXTREMELY nice...I was impressed and already have good impressions about this trip. Definitely one of the nicest reps i've talked to for anything really. Really patient also. Amazingly she managed to type everything into the computer right...my complex last name, my complex email address, thats a first, lol. She knew how to use Copy & Paste too (First airline rep i've talked to that knows how to use this!), so I didnt have to repeat half of the stuff.

But anyways if I had to rate the airlines i've flown...based on everything pretty much...(and i'll only list North American airlines), it'd have to be the following:

Majors:

1. Continental
2. AirTran
3. Air Canada
4. America West
5. Delta
6. American

Regionals:

1. United Express (Op. By Skywest)
2. Air Canada Jazz
3. Delta Connection (ASA Atlantic Southeast)

It's REALLY hard to rate most of these especially the regionals because the service is -SO- very similar from what I experienced. I dont really have a carrier that I hate or dislike...I dont particularly care for Northwest (wont go into reasons)...lets just say some past problems when I book that airline for my relatives or family members, problems I have yet to experience with other carriers, so I book with other carriers if possible.

Also, can someone look up SWA2494 for the end of February? I'm curious as to what aircraft it'll be. If its a 737-700 i'm going to be disappointed (Because I've flown the 73G so much i'm sick of it, plus i'll have 2 flights with it on AirTran at the time). I'm really hoping for a 737-300 for a change.



Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 16136 times:

If it makes you any happier Ill be in Warszawa (I dont know if your from there but I am) in March flying UA/LH/LOT  Silly

User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16073 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 14):
If it makes you any happier Ill be in Warszawa (I dont know if your from there but I am) in March flying UA/LH/LOT

Ah really? Cool - My mothers side of the family lives in Rzeszow (southern part of Poland). I went to Rzeszow in Summer 2004 (Flew DTW-YYZ-LHR on Air Canada, LHR-WAW-RZE on LOT / EuroLot - same way back). Poland & its people rock  Wink

What will your routing be? I presume something to/from EDDF.



Flying a plane is no diff. from riding a bicycle. Its just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -'Airplane'
User currently offlinePJ295 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 16019 times:

Quoting Warszawa (Reply 11):
Also seen it turn south of Port Huron (was hard to see, used my 10x binocs) though only once. Whats interesting is that...I dont think the ASA CRJ's follow the turn towards the east, then south, though i'm not sure since I never track them.

On one flight a couple of years ago we made the turn to the south over the St. Clair River. It was cool to look down on frieghters on the river and the Bluewater Bridges.

Quoting Warszawa (Reply 11):
If you've flown ATL-FNT on AirTran, have you
flown Delta's CRJ's on the route? If so, compared to AirTran, which do you prefer?

I have flown the CRJ's a couple of times with a change of planes in CVG. I have yet to fly nonstop ATL - FNT on the CRJ. I really like Airtran over Delta on the FNT - ATL route. The only reason why is riding on the 717 instead of the CRJ. I really hate the low windows on the CRJ and most of the time leave an rj flight with an neck ache from craning my head to look out the window. I am however torn because most of the time when flying out of ATL to other destinations I prefer Delta to build up my sky miles. When I have flown out of FNT to CVG the route was always out to the southwest over to Jackson and then down the Ohio - Indiana border to CVG.

Imaly City eh....must be a fan of Vlasic??


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 15958 times:

Quoting Warszawa (Reply 15):
Ah really? Cool - My mothers side of the family lives in Rzeszow (southern part of Poland). I went to Rzeszow in Summer 2004 (Flew DTW-YYZ-LHR on Air Canada, LHR-WAW-RZE on LOT / EuroLot - same way back). Poland & its people rock

What will your routing be? I presume something to/from EDDF.

MCO-IAD-MUC-WAW WAW-FRA-IAD-MUC on UA/LOT/LH.

Rzeszow eh? Why is your username Warszawa (Maybe cuz of SP-LPA?) You guys are almost sheepherders down there!


User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 15886 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 17):
Rzeszow eh? Why is your username Warszawa (Maybe cuz of SP-LPA?) You guys are almost sheepherders down there!

Yep Rzeszow...I didnt think about that for my airliners.net name, I just went and scrolled through some LOT Polish Airlines pics and decided to choose SP-LPA's. If I remember correctly I wanted Krakow or Gniezno but those were already taken..., that was way back like 2+ years ago I believe.

lol yeah they almost are sheepherders down there. But, downtown is pretty modernized, they do have discos, many stores and apartments. Though a lot of my family lives on large acres of land and grow a lot of their own fruits/vegetables. Some live in the apartments too.

Interesting on the routing, I forgot about MUC being a possibility.

Why didnt you fly LOT through EWR/JFK/ORD? Just was curious. When I was trying to book to Rzeszow they had some crazy prices like $1300 per person in the summer time while my Air Canada reservation was only $866 or so. Besides I wouldent be too thrilled to fly them with their really old 767's. Your routing is good because you'll probably have either Lufthansa on the transatlantic routes or United with, I'm guessing, either 744', 772', A343 or A333. Hopefully not a United 767 because theirs are only just slightly better than LOT's.

Quoting PJ295 (Reply 16):
Imaly City eh....must be a fan of Vlasic??

Actually I am LOL though before I came to imlay city. I like to eat pepper rings, plain, and occasionally pickles. The vlasic factory is only like 1.5 miles from my house.

When I went to high school right next to Vlasic I could smell the pickles in the morning air. You could also see the cucumbers on conveyor belts sometimes and trucks hauling them in.

I sincerely wish I knew what they made in that factory...because out of all the jars i've looked at in the Farmer Jack grocery store like 1 mile away they all say some place in Maryland if I recall correctly.

What the hell is made in Imlay City, lol...hmm..



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