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Kosher Flyin': DUS-LPA-TFS-DUS (HF/DE) +many Pics  
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6273 times:

About the trip

Hapag-Lloyd (now known as “Hapagfly” after another impressive demonstration of marketing stupidity) offered a sensational deal for flights from Germany to the Canary Islands a few months ago – 29 Euro all inclusive for a 4,5 hour segment – so I did not hesitate one second to jump at the opportunity to visit an unknown airport (LPA) and destination (Gran Canaria). The return flight was scheduled to be operated by Condor (for another 58 Euro) and supposed to leave about eight hours after my arrival on the island, so I originally had planned to explore Tenerife a bit by car. Unfortunately, a few weeks before my departure, flight times were changed to a stopover connection via TFS, reducing my layover to four hours, which left me with no other option than to stay at the airport.
Luckily, LPA has a fairly nice open-air visitor’s deck, so the time went by all too fast, watching interesting traffic and hanging out under a clear 20-degree Centigrade sky while my folks were back at home freezing their rear ends off.  Smile


Sunday, February 12, 2006

Duesseldorf International Airport

The outbound flight was scheduled to leave Duesseldorf in the wee hours of the morning (actually it turned out to be among the very first flight out of DUS that day after the lifting of the curfew at 6 a.m.), which left me with no other options than to drive to the airport by car and leave my ride in one of the outrageously expensive parking lots, which aren’t even close to the terminal. After a short bus ride (the Skytrain, an automated peoplemover connecting the terminals with a large parking lot and the train station, was as usually out of order), I arrived in the check-in hall about one hour before scheduled departure.



Checking in was a breeze, and I received my preassigned seat 4F together with boarding pass number 163 (out of 184 possible). Passing through security took only a few more minutes, before I entered the fairly empty (save for a few groups of passengers in front of boarding gates for flights to places like BCN, PMI, TFS and LPA).

Outside, the big metal birds were being fed and watered for their daily duty, among them our ride for the day, Boeing 737-800 D-AHLR in the “Teletubby on dope” TUI colorscheme.



Adjacent to our terminal B, LTU’s short haul fleet was already getting into full swing at terminal C, with the usual array of ground equipment providing all necessary support to get the aircraft flying as soon as the night curfew would be over. On the other side of the apron, a few charter aircraft parked at our terminal were almost ready for the day, while the Lufthansa Boeings, Airbusses and various Regional Jets were still sound asleep except for two “early birds” to MUC and HAM, where boarding was started at about the time of our departure.

Boarding commenced early at about 0555h, and our load of passengers, chiefly comprising tourists and other private travellers, stumbled on board, yawning and stretching their arms and legs.


The flight (DUS-LPA)

Duesseldorf International Airport (PMI) – Las Palmas Gando (LPA)
Flight number: HF 7253
Scheduled block time: 0625h – 0955h
Off-block: 0633h
Take-Off: 0643h (RWY 23L)
Touch-down: 0938h (RWY 03L)
On-block: 0942h

Boeing 737-8K5(W)
D-AHLR
c/n 32907/1117
delivered: April 6, 2002

Seat 4F (Economy Class)


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The cabin filled up quickly with an almost full load of passengers, and once everybody had shoed him- or herself into the tiny and narrow seats, the cabin was declared ready and pushback commenced.

During the taxying time to the threshold of the active runway, a safety video was shown on the overhead drop-down screens above every third seat row. After passing a long row of parked Lufthansa regional aircraft, which were not needed on a nearly Sunday morning like this, we made our way onto the active runway, engines spooled up, and our heavily-loaded Boeing sluggishly started her roll down the three kilometer stretch of concrete, lifting up close to the end of the available takeoff distance with a thunderous demonstration of sheer power.

A fifteen to twenty minute climb across the sleeping winter landscape of central Europe ensued, until we levelled off at our cruising altitude of 33.000 feet. The LCD screens above every third seat row were lowered again and the video entertainment program started, comprising several music clips, short features about Hapag-Lloyd destinations and some thrid rate Hollywood hogwash movie. Earphones were available for 1,50 Euro, but it was also possible to plug in your personal earphones from the private MP3-player or discman.



While the cabin crew was busy in the galley, preparing the breakfast this morning, a brief announcement from the cockpit informed us about our flight program for the day. After reaching a cruising speed of Mach 0,79 we would continue cruising from CDG via Paris and Nantes to the Gulf of Biscay, which would be crossed in a long arch until reaching the Spanish coast over Galicia. From here, we would continue our flight towards Porto and Lisbon, where we would climb to 38.000 feet (reason being that our aircraft would have to burn some fuel before being able to make that hike) and leave the European continent once and for all for the last 90 minutes of travel across the Atlantic on our way to the Canaries.

The breakfast was served about one hour after departure just as we were leaving the coast of Brittany near Nantes.



Three rounds of beverage services followed, and finally, just as the sun had come up close to the Purtuguese capital, we ascended another 6.000 feet for our final cruising altutide of 38.000 feet.



While cabin service was immaculate and to a high standard, cabin layout and the seats in particular left a lot to be desired. The coveted new “Recaro”-seats, praised in the Hapag Lloyd inflight magazine, are the worst and most uncomfortable airplane seats I have ever come across during more than 25 years of flying. Small seat pitch, narrow width and only furnished with a very thin gel cusion, passengers should seriously consider taking a sleeping pill or tranquilizer to endure longer flights. Even worse, there is no flexible seat pocket anymore, being replaced by a narrow hard plastic slot in the fron seatback, which is already filled with inflight magazine, safety card and airsickness bag. There is no possiblity at all to store an newspaper or book – and that is supposed to be the “new generation” of aircraft seating? I don’t think so! Even Ryanair can’t be worse.



The remainder of the flight bumbled by pretty slowly (no wonder if you are stuck under such miserable seating conditions). The duty free sales brought a short reprieve, and thanks to a book I had brought along, I actually managed to pass the time somehow.
About twenty minutes before touchdown, descent was initiated and we started to maneuver through a few layers of clouds which blanketed the Canary Islands that day.



Fortunately, just as got ever closer to Gran Canaria, the sky became clear again and the green slopes of this volcanic island greeted us, promising liberation from the inhumane seating in only a matter of minutes.



Just like with every other coastal region in the southern provinces of Spain, the trademark ugly plastic greenhoused became visible, were Europe’s supply of vegetables and fruits is produced and harvested, before it gets shipped to Europe in the belly of leisure flights like ours.



Then we soared across the city of El Doctoral on the east side of Gran Canaria…



…before racing alongside the highway connecting the airport with Maspalomas and Las Palmas de Gran Canria.



Touchdown was firm and with the use of thrust reversers and full spoiler deployment, we quickly decelerated close to the terminal building…



…, then leaving the runway at the next possible exit and taxying to our apron position next to a Donbasaero Yak-42 (I wonder, how many stops the passengers of this plane had to endure on their long journey from Russia to Gran Canaria?).



Just as I was about to leave our aircraft, I snapped one last picture of the cabin – if these seats remind of of the kind of furniture you are bound to see on urban busses, you are probably closer to the truth than obvious, because the seats are definitely not made for journeys lasting more than one or two hours!



I walked a few meters from the aircraft to our bus, snapping on last picture of our ride just as the bus driver was about to close the door and start the race (why is it that airport bus drivers at Spain always thin they are wannabe-Pablo Montoyas?) to the terminal building.




Spotting at Las Palmas (LPA)

Having to kill four hours of time at an airport can be an arduous task – not so much however at Gran Canaria’s main aeronautical gateway. I explored the landside portions of the complex for a while – the airport engineer in me looking for interesting applications, which can be adapted in future projects. While the landside exterior of the terminal was just as functional and plain looking as many other airports around the globe…



… a charming display of local contemporary art had transformed the interior from a generic check-in facility into an interesting mixture of art exhibition and transportation node. Throughout the building, colorful mobiles were hanging from the ceiling, their elegance and airy design being a fitting reference to air transportation, the main dedication of the building.



After a brief run-in with the law – a local policemen stopped me and asked, why I was taking so many pictures of the terminal, leaving me alone again after I presented him with one of my business cards, describing me as an engineer of airports logistics – I was ready to check-in at one of the the “Thomas Cook Airlines” counters, which were open for all flights from the international airline branches of the Thomas Cook empire. Afterwards, I went through the security checkpoint without any hassles and climbed upthe stairs towards the visitor’s deck once I had reached the sterile part of the terminal.



Spotting at LPA’s terminal can be quite a pleasant experience – after a brief lull in the morning, there is a massive increase of movements around late morning hours, when the first wave of flights from Europe is reaching the island. Traffic levels stay high throughout the day, before decreasing in the late afternoon around 6 p.m.

While photographing thorugh the glass can be a tricky experience due to the reflections, the panoramic view of the action leaves nothing to be desired…



… and even 70 to 100 mm of zoom isplenty enough to catch passing aircraft in good detail.



After a while, I went back inside the terminal to shop around for some last-minute duty free items..



…then re-entering the visitor’s deck until I saw our aircraft for the return flight arrive around one hour before scheduled off-block time.



The flight was called only twenty or thirty minutes later after passenger sfor LPA had disembarked, and after presenting my boarding pass to the check-in personal, I was granted entrance to the “long pencil”, as the B757-300 is nicknamed in Condor service.


The flight (LPA-TFS)

Las Palmas Gando (LPA) – Tenerife Sur Reina Sofia (TFS)
Flight number: DE 7675
Scheduled block time: 1435h – 1515h
Off-block: 1420h
Take-off: 1428h (RWY 03L)
Touch-down: 1448h (RWY 08)
On-block: 1452h

Boeing 757-330
D-ABOA
c/n 29016/804 (the first B757-300 built)
delivered: June 25, 1999

Seat 20A (Economy Class)


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This short leg to Teneriffe was used to collect passengers from LPA and to distribute a few DUS-originating passengers to both LPA and and TFS. Therefore, as it is customary with Condor concerning all triangular flight patterns, this short “center” segment offered only free seating. Being one of the first on board, I managed to get seat 20A at the left hand side of the aircraft just above the wing root, so I would have a good view over the island of Tenerife during our final approach, which is usually flown northbound at TFS.
Seating on board Condor’s 757 was infinitely more comfortable than on HF’s new seats, the traditional fabric seats being just hard enough not to produce any structural sufferings to my spine on such a longer flight, but also soft enough not to hurt the tailbone.



Boarding the 60 or so passengers from TFS bound for DUS took only a matter of minutes, and the door was closed way before the planned off-block time. The usual routine of cabine securing and safety demonstration (via monitors installed in the ceiling of the aisle) ensued, and then we pushed back from the gate just as an LTU A320 positioned itself at the stand next to us. Take-off today was scheduled to leave towards the northeast, so we backtracked alongside the parallel runways for a few more minutes, permitting views over the vast apron, which was filled by holiday jets from all over Europe.

After an incoming Spanair A320, we sluggishly turned onto the active runway, thrust increased to a noticeabl eroad, and the trusty Rolls Royce engines propelled us sharply into the cloudy winter sky abouth halfways down the long stretch of concrete.


Flying above to port of Santa Cruz, where a few large freighters and tankers were moored…



We soon settled back into a fairly low and slow cruise (about 300 knots at a ceiling of 18.000 ft). After only a few minutes of maneuvering around the northern tip of LPA and a flight parallel to the westerly island of Tenerife, we once again started descent – this time into TFS’s Reina Sofia (Queen Sofia) airport.

Flaps were lowered, slats followed, then, during the last few minutes fo flying the gear came down while we were passing some more plastic greenhouses.



A firm touchdown followed, thrust reversers and spoilers slowing us down from 150 knots to a more sedate pace, which permitted us to vacate the runway close to the main terminal building.



Slowly the long “pencil” positioned itself at the gate next to an Iberia A321, which had arrived from MAD a few minutes earlier.



Once the aircraft came to a complete stop, the usual mad rush to grab all belongings and block each others in the aisle started Big grin . I honestly don’t understand, why vacationers in particular are so keen on making their lives so stressful and miserable during airline travel – after all, they don’t have any appointments to catch.

Once the big huffing and puffing had subsided and the cabin started to become emptier, I got up from my seat, took my backpack out of the overhead bin and left the Boeing for this short transit.


Screwed-up transit at Tenerife Sur (TFS)

The transit at TFS itself was a total screw-up – dear Condor, if you are planning to perform a transit operation at an airport, please make sure that the airport is actually laid out for this special kind of operation! TFS isn’t – so everyone for the subsequent leg to DUS got stranded quite cluelessly in the baggage claim with no legal way to return to the gate. A Condor representative finally arrived, assembling the disoriented and sometimes quite aggravated (if something does not go according to plan, it seems to be a German custom to be totally pi$$ed off) passengers, herding them via a small utility passage to the gate again, where boarding for the flight to Duesseldorf had already begun.



The flight (TFS-DUS)

Tenerife Sur Reina Sofia (TFS) – Duesseldorf International (DUS)
Flight number: DE 7675
Scheduled block time: 1615h – 2150h
Off-block: 1556h
Take-off: 1605h (RWY 08)
Touch-down: 2125h (RWY 23L)
On-block: 2128h

Boeing 757-330
D-ABOA
c/n 29016/804 (the first B757-300 built)
delivered: June 25, 1999

Seat 19F (Economy Class)


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Once again being greeted by the two friendly female flight attendants, I quickly made my way through the narrow fuselage until I reached my seat. My fellow passengers, all eager to fly back to Germany (although from the looks of it, a few Spaniards were also on board) quickly followed suit, so we were ready to leave more than 25 minutes before scheduled off-block time.



Next to us, a Thomsonfly B767-200 was “fed and watered”, almost ready to welcome the next stampede of holidaymakers for the return flight to London Gatwick.



The usual routine of safety annoucement, cabin securing commenced shortly after pushback, just as we were taxying towrds the threshold past an anonymously looking An-12.



Turning onto the active runway without no yielding to potentially incoming traffic at all, our long, sleek airliner quickly accelerated, speeding down the four kiometer long runway and lifting of after having used the lion’s share of the available takeoff distance. During climb, just as we were about to enter the scattered cloud line again, the island of Gran Canaria became visible in the distance.



A few more minutes of climb later, the cabin bell released the crews from their seats. After the usual routine of headseat sale had been completed and the video prgram had commenced, the meal service was prepared. Being my curious self, I had pre-ordered a KSML (depsite not being of Judaic faith at all), so I was really looking forward to something a little bit more exotic than your regular pasta-with red-saucve-and-cheese-meal, which German leisure flights of this distance are notorious for.  Wink

It was actually interesting to be the subject of so much attention – if you are craving for the curiosity of your co-travellers, order a special meal, or, even better, a Kosher meal. Before the meal service started, one of the flight attendants came down the aisle right to my seat and asked loudly: “Did you order the Kosher meal, Sir?” Heads turned… curious looks… Big grin I wonder, what the others were thinking… “Wow, this guy does not look like Ariel Sharon, and he still is a jew?”  Wink

Even better, I even got my meal, packed in a large representative box before all the other passengers…



Although much to my dissapointment, the contents were less stellar – prepackaged foods, which had been prepared weeks ago and stored under sterile conditions. Still, it was interesting to read on the accompanying leaflet, what care had been taken to assure that all contents would comply to the highest orthodox standards. The meal box was prepared by Stogl Catering, which seems to be a specialized enterprise for Kosher airline food based in Antwerp, and some of the contents even originated from Israel!



After the meal service, the flight settled into its usual routine. Our flight path guided us from TFS to FAO, MAD, BIO and across France towards Paris, where we made a slight turn towards the east. Cruising speed reached an average of Mach 0,79 at a relatively low altitude of 29.000 ft (due to severe turbulences in the upper flight levels).



Coincidently, a minor break from the boredom of such longer flights occurred right next to me during the last hour of the flight – an elderly lady sitting on the aisle seat on my seat bench started to feely dizzy, so the calm and professionally acting flight attendants bedded her across our three seats and supplied her with oxygen and fresh water, while I patiently waited in the galley. Luckily, the old lady finally recovered, so as we were starting our final descent into rain-soaked Duesseldorf, she was already” back on her feet” again and actually not very amused after touchdown, when she saw an ambulance waiting at our gate position to pick her up!  Smile


Conclusion

Hapag Lloyd is offering a decent product in comparison with other German leisure carriers, which is unfortunately let down massively by the new seats. I will seriously pay atleast twenty Euro more per segment in order to take a different airline with better and more comfortable seats if the need should arise to fly a longer leg in the future. However, apart from this important gripe, service and product was as professional as can be on a leisure flight, demonstrated thirty years of expertise in the market.

Despite some of the shortcomings experienced on board Condor flights one or two years ago, it seems that the airline has finally the right strategy and service program to successfully compete with the cut-throat competition in the Europena market. While the disorganized transit at TFS posed a minor setback, the cabin service was to a very high and professional standard, exemplified by the calm action of the flight attendants during the incident with the old lady. While not being marketed as such any longer, Condor still breaths a lot of the professionalism inherited as “Lufthansa’s holiday airline” – and it can only be hoped that the inevitable future cost cutting does not degrade their product again due to perceived or real economic necessities.

Thanks for reading my report – questions, comments, or criticism are always appreciated.  Smile


Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
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User currently offlineLX001 From Austria, joined Jun 2004, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6154 times:

Great report! Loved all details!!!
Thank you for sharing!
Bruno


User currently offline4xRuv From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6048 times:

Again, a great report!

DUS looks very nice I must say.
Regarding HF seats, I guess that they are designed for flights that are no longer then 2 hours, as most of their dests. are short. I wonder what seats do they use on the flights to TLV
I think it was a terrible mistake taking the KSML, did you do that just for fun?


User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5894 times:

The Kosher box looks beautiful; how deceiving. I would prefer a really ugly box with better contents but for the price you paid one cannot expect a miracle.

User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5133 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5871 times:

Hello Jens,
you wrote an interesting story included some of the "heavier" used airports in my logbook. Thanx for sharing and good pix.
Wish to be there when I look outside the window (snow!)
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineTifoso From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5748 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Thread starter):
why is it that airport bus drivers at Spain always thin they are wannabe-Pablo Montoyas?

Being Spaniards, the bus drivers probably idolize Alonso. If they were Montoya wannabees, you would not have reached the terminal without crashing into something  Wink

Intra-European flights seem to have some pretty decent catering; a far cry from what is available here in the US (with the exception of CO). Let's hope the industry makes a rebound in this country.  Smile

Very nice trip report, and pictures. Fantastic job!


User currently offlineOldman55 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1524 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5746 times:

great report and nice pics. One little thing tho I dont think your picture of the terminal at DUS was taken the day of your flt.was it? It looks bright and sunny which it probably isn,t on a Feb. morning at 5:30 AM.  Wink anyways still a great report.


too bad most of us get too soon old and too late smart
User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5699 times:

Hello my jewish friend  Wink

thanks for this report, detailed as usual and again with some great pics. A
nice comparison between the two German charter airlines. A pity they
re-scheduled your flight so that you didn't have time to explore the island.

Funny you, ordering a KSML. May I ask, what exactly was the content of the
meal? And one more question, do you remember what movies they showed on
board? I mean on the shorter flights it's mostly cartoons, but a four-hour
flight would at least allow the time to show a real movie, one of the
lastest movies as other airlines show on longhaul. Then again, being a
family-friendly holiday airline, one has to be careful about the choice of
onboard program, so I think this limits the possible movies shown on board
to movies like Finding Nemo etc?

Regarding Condor, I like their new livery, but I still wonder how they could
ever give up their famous yellow identity:

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Well at least they changed the name back to Condor.

Once again thanks for this detailed report, Alex.


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5626 times:

First of all, let me thank you for your comments! It is feedback like this which makes compiling those reports so much worth the while.  Smile

Quoting 4xRuv (Reply 2):
I think it was a terrible mistake taking the KSML, did you do that just for fun?

I was (almost litteraly) fed up with the regular paste-with-red-sauce dishes you get on those leisure flights, so I wanted to try something different.  Smile Remembering, how much care has to go into the proper preparation of a Kosher meal, I figured that this might also mean that the culinary quality of the food might be a little bit better. How wrong I was!

Quoting Semsem (Reply 3):
The Kosher box looks beautiful; how deceiving. I would prefer a really ugly box with better contents but for the price you paid one cannot expect a miracle.

I guess you are right. I'll be on another daytrip to TFS in late April, maybe I try the Halal option that time. Big grin

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 5):
Being Spaniards, the bus drivers probably idolize Alonso. If they were Montoya wannabees, you would not have reached the terminal without crashing into something

LOL! Big grin How could I forget about that...

Quoting Oldman55 (Reply 6):
great report and nice pics. One little thing tho I dont think your picture of the terminal at DUS was taken the day of your flt.was it? It looks bright and sunny which it probably isn,t on a Feb. morning at 5:30 AM. anyways still a great report.

You are quite right with your assessment, Mr. Holmes.  Wink The picture is from my personal database of airport pictures - like I wrote, one aspect of my job is logistics planning for airports, so I usually have my camera ready when I am travelling.

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 7):
Funny you, ordering a KSML. May I ask, what exactly was the content of the
meal?

As far as I can remember, the contents were:

- tuna paste
- mousee au chocolat made from soy milk (tasted betetr than it sounds)
- two bags of crackers (for the tuna paste)
- two small containers of jam
- two bags of some weird but good tasting Israeli sweets
- apple compote

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 7):
And one more question, do you remember what movies they showed on
board?

Er, no - sorry.  Smile I usually black out the hoghwash that is shown on board airlines and prefer to take a book and some newspapers with me. Some episodes of Loriot were shown on the HF flight (you can actually see it in one of my cabin shots), and they were (despite having been re-run over and over again on TV) quite funny, but I honestely cannot rememebr what the feature film was on both longer flights.



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User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5439 times:

Hi Jens,

very interesting comparision between these two German leisure carriers - illustrated with fantastic pics, as usually!  Smile

Having flown both HF and DE within the last months, I agree with you: they are both doing a good job, and for the price you paid, one can't complain.

Quoting TriStar500 (Thread starter):
(the Skytrain, an automated peoplemover connecting the terminals with a large parking lot and the train station, was as usually out of order),

I have visited DUS three times in my life - and the Skytrain was always out of order. Has it ever been working?

Quoting TriStar500 (Thread starter):
After a brief run-in with the law – a local policemen stopped me and asked, why I was taking so many pictures of the terminal, leaving me alone again after I presented him with one of my business cards, describing me as an engineer of airports logistics

I really wished I had such business cards - but I guess a business card from a bank won't really help if I want to take pictures at airports where photographing isn't really appreciated by local authorities...

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 7):
And one more question, do you remember what movies they showed on board? I mean on the shorter flights it's mostly cartoons, but a four-hour flight would at least allow the time to show a real movie, one of the lastest movies as other airlines show on longhaul. Then again, being a family-friendly holiday airline, one has to be careful about the choice of onboard program, so I think this limits the possible movies shown on board to movies like Finding Nemo etc?

On my recent flights on HF to Egypt, they were showing "Monster-in-law" (Das Schwiegermonster) on the outbound leg and "Fever pitch" (Ein Mann für eine Saison; some American football movie) on the return sector. According to their in-flight magazine, they show the same movies on all their longer flights within a few months, so Jens must have had the pleasure to watch "Monster-in-law". I can't say anything about DE.

Christoph


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5346 times:

Hi Christoph!
Thanks for your comments!  Smile I guess we both agree that compared to other European leisure carriers - and in fact, to quite a few scheduled airlines also - the standard of German "charter" carriers is quite high.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 9):
I have visited DUS three times in my life - and the Skytrain was always out of order. Has it ever been working?

My tongue-in-cheek commentary would be that the thing has been working, but always failed during peak times (e.g. the summer months). Siemens has miscalculated the necessary strength for the pylons, which hold the tracks, not taking into account that the average passenger weight on at an airport application is much higher than in normal use due to suitcases, bags etc. Not really the best advertisment for Siemens Transportation, if you ask me.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 9):

I really wished I had such business cards - but I guess a business card from a bank won't really help if I want to take pictures at airports where photographing isn't really appreciated by local authorities...

In the worst case, I would still have my Fraport ID card, which I got because our company is doing a lot of business with Frankfurt Airport. And since I also have a couple of good contacts from my old times when I used to work for Fraport for a while, I am the only guy in our firm with "yellow code", permitting me unlimited apron access. Big grin



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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5322 times:

Hi Jens,

Thank you for composing this excellent trip report! (I'm repeating myself, I know, but what else can I say about the reports composed by the Germans on this website  Wink).

Interesting view about the new Recaro-seats. I haven't been on an aircraft yet equiped with those seats.

I flew BA to LHR last Wednesday, and their seats on the A32S are soooo comfortable. I believe that they are also preparing new seats (probably the Lufthansa-style?), let's hope that the comfort will not be reduced.

It looks like German charter carriers offer a decent service in general. Enjoy it, as Jetairfly (the Belgian equivalent of Hapagfly) has started offering meals for sale as far as I know. You can prebook them on the website, or buy something on board.

Regards
Frederic


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5197 times:

Hi Frederic!
Thanks for your compliments - but let me say that I enjoy your excellent trip reports just as well.  Smile

I was intrigued to try out Thomas Cook Belgium and had already planned to fly DUS-BCN-LGG with AB outbound and the Belgian Branch of the Thomas Cook empire on the return flight. However due to business appointments, I had to postpone the "project" until next year. Have you ever flown with them and know how their service is?



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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5190 times:

Hi Jens,

Thanks for the compliment as well  Wink

Watch out with those Thomas Cook flights to LGG: I believe that TNT will operate those flights with BAe146-200 aircraft.

About their service: I think that it will be comparable to what Condor etc. offer you in Germany, although I have the impression that German charter carriers are better service-wise.

I haven't flown yet with Jetairfly and Thomas Cook. Their fares are usually very steep unfortunately (certainly not comparable with the 29 EUR offers you always seem to get  Wink).

Regards
Frederic


User currently offlineDoor5Right From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 707 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

That was a nice day out!


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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4992 times:

Quoting Sabena 690 (Reply 13):
Watch out with those Thomas Cook flights to LGG: I believe that TNT will operate those flights with BAe146-200 aircraft.

Hmmm... that would be even better (probably not comfort-wise, but an even more exotic aircraft-airline-combination).

Quoting Door5Right (Reply 14):
That was a nice day out!

You got that right! Big grin Thankfully, Germany has evolved into a market with very rock-bottom fares, so it is actually possible to do those little intercontinental flights for a few Euro.
My next two "fun flying" -projects coming up in mid to late April are MAD-MLN-AGP-MAD w/ IB for a little over 100 Euro and DUS-TFS-DUS with HF for 58 Euro (I'll keep my fingers crossed that flying times don't change this time around, so I have plenty of time to drive around Tenerife for a day).  Smile



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8496 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4782 times:
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Hi Jens,

Great report as usual.

Interesting to hear about the seats and lack of storage on the HF aircraft, not very impressive. It's ok for a short 1/2 hour flight, but for a longer segment we all want to be comftable and have a decent place to store books etc.

Shame that the LPA spotting deck is airside, would make a decent day trip destination of you could make a day of it.

Regards

Mark



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User currently offlineILCFII From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4688 times:

Excellent Report!!!
Flew LGW-LPA on Air 3000 (can't remember if that is the name of the airline) when I visited Maspolamas back in June 2002. I definately agree with you about the obsesrvation deck. Nice views but tough to get a picture. Keep up the great trip reports!


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4566 times:

@Marc, ILCFII

Thank you very much for your feedback!  Smile



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