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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9021 times:

First of all, appologies for no pics of the flight. The rechargable batteries died and I was only able to buy batteries once I was in Bogota.

Well it was Spring Break at FSU once again, and being the fourth and last one for me, I wanted to go some place special. Initially my idea was to travel to Seattle on Amtrak, inspired by a train report I read in the Non-Av forum. However, this seemed quite costly. I also didn't want to spend a week in Miami considering I had been there in December for three weeks and ended up being really, really bored.

I checked AA's JetNet to check flight availability for the week of March 6th through the 10th and the flights looked great, including Business. I decided to list myself on AA 913 on the outbound leg and on AA 916 on the inbound leg.

March 6th, 2006
AA 913
MIA - BOG
Boeing 767-300
Seat 5J Business
Dep 10:18
Arr 13:47



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To the Airport

The day started at 5:15AM when I woke up after only 2.5 hrs of sleep. I had driven the night before from Tallahassee. 450 miles in 5.5 hrs, which I think was great time! After a shower and a very light breakfast consisting of coffee and toast, my mom took me to the Hillsborough Tri-Rail station to catch the 6:23AM train to Miami Int'l airport. This wasn't my first time on a train in the US (having been on the Amtrak in the NE before), but it was the first time on a train in South Florida. Must say I would've prefered a drive down to MIA, however my request was denied. Nonetheless, I must say I really enjoyed the train. For some reason I felt I was back in Europe, riding the Heathrow Express or the Train from Lausanne to GVA.

Check-In

I arrived at Miami Airport's Tri-Rail station at 7:35AM and jumped on the Airport Shuttle bus which took about 3 minutes to take me to the stop in front of Concourse E. Got off and headed straight to Concourse C/D, where most of AA's LatAm/Caribbean check-in desks are located. It was 7:50AM by now, so I figured there wouldn't be more than 10-20 people in line for check-in. How wrong was I! The check-in desks in C/D were empty! Wow, that's a MIA first. I quickly approached the AA representative and handed my documents as well as my PNR number on a Post-It. I asked if there was still space available in Business and she told me it was half empty, although there would be a few upgrades. She then handed me a boarding card and told me to give it to the gate agent for a seat assignment. I thanked her and went on my way to kill some time around the terminal. I actually walked to both ends of it. They really are improving MIA and once it's finished it will look beautiful, even if it will still be a very crowded airport.

At the Gate

Following a Venti Latte and a few calls to force small talk with my friends, I proceded to the security check point of Concourse D. Security was a breeze and I was soon inside the newly renovated Concourse D. I must say it looks beautiful! Even better than Concourse A.


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As soon as I reached gate D40 I approached the agent and handed him my boarding pass, which was soon returned with a handwritten 5J seat assignment. Score! I really needed this, since I had been deprived of sleep for the past few days. As I waited for boarding time to come around, I walked around all the gates, admiring the beauty of the terminal.

Flight

Boarding was done very quickly starting by Business Class, followed by Emerald and Saphire members of OneWorld, and lastly by Economy. Meanwhile in the Business cabin champagne or OJ was served (I did ask for both to make a mimosa!). As soon as everyone was seated the plane pushed back and we taxied quickly for a Rwy 8R departure. The plane quickly leveled out at around 3000-5000 feet and stayed at that low altitude for a while, me fearing a return to the airport for MX. But soon the Captain increased power and we were off to our cruising altitude of FL350.

F/A's came around taking drink orders and I requested my usual Bloody Mary mix, sans the Vodka. Not a big fan of Vodka, meself. One big dissapointment was that no warm nuts were offered with the drinks.

Although somewhat skeptical, I was anxious to see if the F/A's would deliver the personal DVD players as advertised by SeatGuru. Alas, my luck was not such. I imagine these devices are only available on Transatlantic flights. However this 767

Soon after the F/A's came around asking passengers if they wanted the Salmon or the Croque Monsieur for lunch. I love Salmon, and opted for it. Later I would regret that. Soon, the F/A's came around with fresh fruits and a basket of bagels and biscuits for starters. Following came the Salmon. This was dissapointing! I didn't consider the fact that it wouldn't be a filet of the fish, rather a few slices of smoked salmon, brunch style! My seatmate in 5H had the croque monsieur, and it did look quite tasty and was much, much bigger!

Coffee and Tea was offered a while later, but no dessert. Before landing in Bogota, DIAN custom forms were offered both in Spanish and English.

Landing and Immigration

As usual, we landed on Rwy 13R on a very cloudy and grey Bogota. Bogota's typical weather is actually very, very close to that of London. Always grey, always raining. Just crap!

We approached gate C6 in the International Concourse and disembarked quickly. I believe a few int'l AV flights were also arriving at the time and DAS (or now DAI, Colombian Intelligence) Immigration area was packed! There was also a sign stating that if you are Colombian-born you are entitled to dual nationality, but you must enter the country as a Colombian. Otherwise you are considered a traitor and face jail time. Well, I do have a Colombian passport (Somewhere! Maybe even expired already!), but I wasn't born there, so there shouldn't be a problem. However, I don't have an ID card or let alone a Military ID card (every male over 18 must have one) so to avoid any troubles, I only spoke English to the lovely immigration officer. She could barely say yes, so she didn't bother asking me any questions as to my visit.

I proceded to baggage claim and quickly collected my bag and went through the custom's x-ray machine. Following I left the terminal and looked for my grandma who was supposed to be waiting for me in the parking lot. Funny enough, I forgot how in Colombia people NEVER stop for crossing ped's, so I nearly got run over three times!

The following is a photo report of Bogota, for your viewing pleasure:


Street scene in Bogota


Transmilenio Mass Transport System


80th Street


Transmilenio


Transmilenio


Jirafa=32Ltrs of beer!


Funny sign. "No de Papaya" literally means "Do not give Papaya", but roughly translates to "Be careful!"


San Francisco Church


Presidential Guard


Ministry of Agriculture


Near the Gold Museum


On the way to Monserrate, a church located on top of a mountain sitting at 3,125 meters or roughly 9,200 feet


A very smoggy Bogota. Looking North. Looking South was a bit more clear


Bogota


Onboard a taxi driven by a very, very crazy driver! Nice guy, though


Capitol


City Hall


Cathedral


It was here were the Llorente flower vase was broken and is symbolic with the fight for independence in Colombia from Spain in the 19th cent


This is the window through which Bolivar escaped his captors. It is located in what now is the Foreign Affairs Ministry


Foreign Affairs Ministry


A controversial cathedral due to it's unorthodox decorations on the outside


The Presidential Guard who refused many times my attempts to get a picture of the Presidential Palace

March 10th, 2006
AA 916
BOG-MIA
Boeing 767-300
Seat 5H Business
Dep 14:57
Arr 18:35


A quick synopsis on the return flight. It was pretty much the same experience as going to Colombia. Only difference is that, as usual, ground staff and agents of AA in Colombia seem to hate when someone from the US comes on a non-rev ticket. Maybe they don't get the same benefits? I don't know, but I was treated with disregard and if it weren't for my noticing it, my ticket would've remained on the floor after the gate agent failed to pick it up, and I would probably still be in Colombia.

Immigration in Miami was the usual. Some flights from Europe arriving in the late afternoon make Immigration really, really crowded. I made the stupid mistake of queueing up in a visitor line because it was slow. Due to the US VISIT program it took forever to get past immigration, although once it was my turn, a simple swipe of the Green Card and a smile received me back in my home State. Picked up my bags which were already out, whisked past customs, and was drove back to Boca to my parent's home.

The next day, I did the joyful 6hr drive back to Tallahassee. At least this time I was not alone



Thanks and comments welcome!

Stefano  wave 

32 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8996 times:

Oh, you are back on A.net?  Wink

Great report and even greater pictures of Bogota, I really like that you included a "sightseeing trip" in your report.

Patrick


User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8873 times:

Lol, thanks Patrick!

Good to see you 'round again and glad you liked the report.

Forgot to include (left a sentence unfinished) that on the trip down the 767 had the new 777-style interior, which was far better than the old-style boxy interior the a/c had on the way back.

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineLH459 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8763 times:

Very nice report, with beautiful pictures of Bogota! What exactly is the transmilenio system? Is it some kind of closed bus system, like in Curitiba? Just curious.  Smile


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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8713 times:

Great Trip Report Stefano!! Thanks for sharing the pics, especially the one showing the window from which Bolivar escaped. By the way, it looks like BOG downtown is a safe place for walking around, can you confirm that?

Quoting Komododx (Thread starter):
DIAN custom forms were offered both in Spanish and English.

What about the inmigration form? By now all Andean Community countries have to have a common inmigration form. When I entered Venezuela on January the inmigration form said at the bottom: TAM (Tarjeta Andina de Migración).

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8676 times:

Quoting LH459 (Reply 3):
Very nice report, with beautiful pictures of Bogota! What exactly is the transmilenio system? Is it some kind of closed bus system, like in Curitiba?

It is exactly the same, only much larger with 6 lines and 3 more coming for 2008.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 4):
By the way, it looks like BOG downtown is a safe place for walking around, can you confirm that?

Ideed. Justa as any city, it depends of which places you go. Bogota´s downtown is very guarded by the police.

Stefano great pics, thank you for showing a.net the wonderful city Bogota is. Talking about the climate, this year has been very sunny it only started raining in March.



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User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8641 times:

Quoting Komododx (Thread starter):
Jirafa=32Ltrs of beer!

WTF?!?!?!?!?!


::packing bags, calling MX, and ready to fly to BOG now::


Great Trip report btw, enjoyed alot reading it!


Cheers!

Alonso



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User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 8511 times:

Thank you for the pictures of Bogota. I read that it is somewhat dangerous there. Would like to visit Columbia one day.

User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8433 times:

Quoting LH459 (Reply 3):
Very nice report, with beautiful pictures of Bogota! What exactly is the transmilenio system? Is it some kind of closed bus system, like in Curitiba? Just curious.

Thanks! IIRC it is just like in Curitiba. Think of it as an overground subway system with buses instead of trains. Digging holes in the city in this day and age would've been chaotic! Transmilenio is still growing as RCS763AV said and parts of the city are still seeing the construction of the new lines.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 4):
Great Trip Report Stefano!! Thanks for sharing the pics, especially the one showing the window from which Bolivar escaped. By the way, it looks like BOG downtown is a safe place for walking around, can you confirm that?

Thanks! Downtown Bogota is much safer to walk around now. Jimenez Street used to be one of the prime places to get robbed, but I walked all along it and felt very safe. You always need to be on the look out, of course.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 4):
What about the inmigration form? By now all Andean Community countries have to have a common inmigration form. When I entered Venezuela on January the inmigration form said at the bottom: TAM (Tarjeta Andina de Migraci�n).

Interesting. Is this a Chavez concept? Never heard of it and didn't get it on the plane. It always struck me that there has never been an immigration form when I've been flying in and out of the country since 1989.

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 5):
Stefano great pics, thank you for showing a.net the wonderful city Bogota is. Talking about the climate, this year has been very sunny it only started raining in March.

Thanks! I talked to someone in Bogota this morning and she told me the weather has been quite nice! Just my luck!

Quoting KLM685 (Reply 6):
WTF?!?!?!?!?!


::packing bags, calling MX, and ready to fly to BOG now::


Great Trip report btw, enjoyed alot reading it!

Thanks! The beer was great. I had never seen something like that, but it's a very interesting concept. I'm sure it would be very welcomed in US college towns. Might introduce the concept in Tallahassee...  scratchchin 

Quoting Semsem (Reply 7):
Thank you for the pictures of Bogota. I read that it is somewhat dangerous there. Would like to visit Columbia one day.

Thanks! The country itself is dangerous but it's somewhat getting better. They now have "Touristic Caravans" around the country. Just loads and loads of cars travelling from one city to another escorted by national police and IIRC the army as well. As within any other big city, you just have to be careful.

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2392 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8272 times:

Great report man, thanks.. but I do missed the pics from the plane... come on!! lol

Quoting Komododx (Thread starter):
Bogota's typical weather is actually very, very close to that of London. Always grey, always raining. Just crap!

Lived in Bogota for 15 years and weather was great.. very sunny days, very rainy days, you have it all, but you can't compare it to the weather in London... come on Steph.. Bogota has a great climate and many sunny and blue skies days..you just had bad luck.. hehe


Quoting LH459 (Reply 3):
Is it some kind of closed bus system, like in Curitiba?

Curitiba was the inspiration actually..
some pics of Transmilenio System:








Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 4):
By the way, it looks like BOG downtown is a safe place for walking around, can you confirm that?

Up to 6pm you will have no problem.. same precautions as in any city in the world.. that's all.

Quoting Komododx (Reply 8):
Digging holes in the city in this day and age would've been chaotic!

not only that, but 100 times more expensive.

Quoting Komododx (Reply 8):
Interesting. Is this a Chavez concept? Never heard of it

heheheeh, my thoughts exactly...

This is a great website about our beautiful Bogota:
http://english.bogotaturismo.gov.co/



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8202 times:

Quoting Komododx (Thread starter):
Well it was Spring Break at FSU once again, and being the fourth and last one for me, I wanted to go some place special.

Any place is better than that horrible girl's school you attend. I would want to get away from the bovines they call sorority girls there as well.  duck 

Quoting Komododx (Thread starter):
Jirafa=32Ltrs of beer!

Glad to see that education going to something meaningful.  biggrin 

Seriously though, good report and great pics. Go Gators!



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineGlid4500 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 587 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8180 times:

Nice trip report

In my own opinion, some of Tri-Rail's passenger cars look old and tired. It makes Sounder and Metrolink look a little better. Some of the stations are nice though.

Intresting transit system down there in Bogota

thank u for sharing !!!!

Quoting Komododx (Thread starter):
Must say I would've prefered a drive down to MIA, however my request was denied



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8549 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8035 times:
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Nice report, interesting to see some photo's of Columbia.

Interesting no desert was served in 'C', odd.
Thanks

Mark



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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7986 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
Any place is better than that horrible girl's school you attend.

You won't see me complaining of a 2:1 Girl to Guy ratio  wink 

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
Seriously though, good report and great pics. Go Gators!

Thanks! GO NOLES!

Quoting Glid4500 (Reply 11):
Nice trip report

In my own opinion, some of Tri-Rail's passenger cars look old and tired. It makes Sounder and Metrolink look a little better. Some of the stations are nice though.

Intresting transit system down there in Bogota

thank u for sharing !!!!

You're welcome!

The Tri-Rail indeed is nothing special. However, it beats paying for parking down in Miami or taking the Super Shuttle. And anything is a million times better than rush hour traffic on 95.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 12):
Nice report, interesting to see some photo's of Columbia.

Interesting no desert was served in 'C', odd.

Thanks. Quite odd indeed. Maybe because it was brunch?

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineTurk223 From Barbados, joined Aug 2003, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7911 times:

Great pictures of Bogotá... thanks!

I didn't quite understand the issue of showing a Colombian passport to DAS - could you clarify it for me someone?


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7870 times:

Quoting Komododx (Reply 13):
You won't see me complaining of a 2:1 Girl to Guy ratio

I wouldn't either. They are just prettier in Gainesville!

Do you have a job lined up yet after you finish school? Will you be calling a Gator "boss"? Just giving you crap. If you like planes you can't be half bad even though you're a Nole.



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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7821 times:

Quoting Turk223 (Reply 14):
Great pictures of Bogotá... thanks!

I didn't quite understand the issue of showing a Colombian passport to DAS - could you clarify it for me someone?

Well basically if you are born in Colombia you are entitled to dual nationality, but must use your Colombian passport (and ID card and Military ID card) when entering or leaving the country, or you face jail time. I have a Colombian passport but was not born there (was born in the Netherlands). But every time I go to Colombia it's a big issue with the DAS and with AA's security as to why I speak such a perfect Bogota variation of Spanish. So instead I decided I would refuse to speak a word of Spanish while in the airport to avoid raising any suspicion.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 15):
Do you have a job lined up yet after you finish school? Will you be calling a Gator "boss"? Just giving you crap. If you like planes you can't be half bad even though you're a Nole.

I still have a couple of interviews here and there (one with Merrill Lynch next week in JAX) but I think most definitely I will end up working for a coal marketing firm. I still don't know if the position would be either in Atlanta or in Ireland. So if I end up in Georgia, I might end up having to console you next fall when we beat you in Tallahassee  duck 

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineRCS763AV From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7719 times:

Quoting Semsem (Reply 7):
I read that it is somewhat dangerous there.

A lot less dangerous then Israel.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 12):
Nice report, interesting to see some photo's of Columbia.

Its Colombia..... Smile

Quoting Turk223 (Reply 14):
I didn't quite understand the issue of showing a Colombian passport to DAS - could you clarify it for me someone?

Well, from the point of view of someone in Bogota but with Belgian nationality, you have to leave and enter the country with the Colombian passport or else you are entering as an illegal or something like that, so i always leave the country with my Colombian passport and i show the Belgian passport if theres visa restrictions at the arrival airport...



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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7671 times:

Stefano,

thank you for the great report and the great photos....

Bogota has changed a lot the last years .....

regards
Avianca



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7571 times:

Quoting Komododx (Reply 16):
I might end up having to console you next fall when we beat you in Tallahassee

Good luck with the job hunt. I think you'll need to find a QB first before having to console me. Of course we need to find an offensive line ourselves so who knows.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2392 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7534 times:

Quoting Turk223 (Reply 14):
I didn't quite understand the issue of showing a Colombian passport to DAS - could you clarify it for me someone?
The Colombian law allow you to have two citizenship (Colombian and other), so if you haven't resigned to the Colombian citizenship you should use your Colombian passport for migration to the country. If you resign to your Colombian citizenship then you can use your other passport.
I have the Italian passport as well and as RCS736AV, I use the Colombian to migrate to Colombia and the Italian for all other ports of entry (Less hassle - unfortunately that's the reality-).

Quoting Avianca (Reply 18):
Bogota has changed a lot the last years .....
It is amazing, the last 12 years have been extraordinary for Bogota, the city, streets, sideways, exclusive bicycle roads all over the city, many new libraries, security has improved dramatically. Our only problem is BOG, the airport is very bad but it is already on its way to become worthy of this beautiful city, US$600 will be invested.

A whole thread about this: RE: BOG New Terminal (plans And Images) (by RICARIZA Feb 19 2006 in Civil Aviation)

BTW, AV got a three year extension on its terminal (Aerial Bridge) hence the investment of US$3 million in it while BOG is being renovated.

[Edited 2006-03-19 15:01:26]


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User currently offlineSK973 From Sweden, joined Mar 2004, 327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7521 times:

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 20):
US$600 will be invested.

Work and materiel must be very cheap there...  Wink


User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2392 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7440 times:

Quoting SK973 (Reply 21):
Work and materiel must be very cheap there

hahaha.. yes, but not that cheap.. I forgot a tiny detail: "millions"... lol



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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7389 times:

Quoting Avianca (Reply 18):
Stefano,

thank you for the great report and the great photos....

Bogota has changed a lot the last years .....

You're welcome. The city has changed a lot! I hadn't been there in 3-4 years and the changes are quite noticeable. And they're still working on it too!

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 19):
Good luck with the job hunt. I think you'll need to find a QB first before having to console me. Of course we need to find an offensive line ourselves so who knows.

Thanks! And I don't even know who our QB will be next year... God knows what will happen to Weatherford... and I'm sure Lee won't be playing (didn't he transfer?)

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineTurk223 From Barbados, joined Aug 2003, 399 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7117 times:

Quoting Komododx (Reply 16):
Well basically if you are born in Colombia you are entitled to dual nationality, but must use your Colombian passport (and ID card and Military ID card) when entering or leaving the country, or you face jail time. I have a Colombian passport but was not born there (was born in the Netherlands). But every time I go to Colombia it's a big issue with the DAS and with AA's security as to why I speak such a perfect Bogota variation of Spanish. So instead I decided I would refuse to speak a word of Spanish while in the airport to avoid raising any suspicion.



Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 17):
Well, from the point of view of someone in Bogota but with Belgian nationality, you have to leave and enter the country with the Colombian passport or else you are entering as an illegal or something like that, so i always leave the country with my Colombian passport and i show the Belgian passport if theres visa restrictions at the arrival airport...



Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 20):
The Colombian law allow you to have two citizenship (Colombian and other), so if you haven't resigned to the Colombian citizenship you should use your Colombian passport for migration to the country. If you resign to your Colombian citizenship then you can use your other passport.
I have the Italian passport as well and as RCS736AV, I use the Colombian to migrate to Colombia and the Italian for all other ports of entry (Less hassle - unfortunately that's the reality-).

Thanks for the clarification. I too am a dual-citizen - Barbados and U.S. Barbados allows for dual-citizenship so I just enter BGI on my B'dos p/port and return to the U.S. on the American one. Does anyone know if the U.S. is OK with dual-citizenship? When I was in Colombia, I also entered on the B'dos one and left using the U.S.


25 CV990 : Hi Komododx!!! I must say it was a great trip report indeed and your words and information just arrived in the right time to me....I'll be flying to C
26 RCS763AV : There´s like 28-30 daily flights (depending on day) between BOG and CLO operated by Avianca and Aerorepublica, the first one operates 18 flights on M
27 Post contains images Komododx : You're welcome! The US does allow dual citizenship, but only with a few select countries (I know most, if not all, of EU countries). How ever, EU cou
28 Post contains images Latinplane : Great trip report! Really enjoyed the pics of Bogota. Good job! LatinPlane
29 SOUTHAMERICA : Pictures of the city are unfortunately no longer viewable since the account already exceeded this month's available bandwidth. But I know Bogota well-
30 Luisde8cd : Indeed. Here Bogota is always shown as an example to follow in all the Urbanism courses I've taken as electives in my university. Saludos desde Carac
31 RICARIZA : Yes they do.
32 Post contains images Komododx : Thanks! Really? I've been seeing them fine Cool! Stefano
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