FLIEGER67 From Austria, joined Sep 2003, 4788 posts, RR: 56 Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5558 times:
"Backstage" Tempelhof airport during a Berlin trip from Stuttgart
Late last year, I´ve read about a guided tour through the worlds oldest active airport and also the worlds second largest
building: Famous Berlin-Tempelhof airport built around 1930.
Air Service Berlin offered these tour at Saturday, 22.04.2006, 1.30 pm.I´ve booked two tickets for me and my seven year old son
and another weekend trip to Berlin comes up.
We want to fly on ASB´s "Rosinenbomber" DC-3, but I´ve never thought about that high demand for this offer.
Booked the flights to and from Berlin late December last year and decided to book the DC-3 flights later. Sold out when I checked again about two months ago.
The friendly agent from ASB answered me by mail about that I will call them when I´am in Berlin, if there will be some cancelled seats.
Nothing cancelled on our possible flights, so the inside tour only and thats really worth the money.
STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen) - TXL (Berlin-Tegel)
DI 7028 operated by FlyDBA B737-300 D-ADIJ
Scheduled: 09.25 // 10.40
Actual: 09.30 // 10.30
Gate: 316 Seat: 03A and B
Load factor: 62 pax = 45,59 %
Fare: 47,09 EUR per pax
1.) Delivered to TEA/Belgium: 05.04.1991
2.) In service with AirAruba: 13.05.1991
3.) In service with EBA Eurobelgian: 16.03.1992
4.) In service with EBA Italy: 09.05.1993
5.) Returned to EBA Eurobelgian: 01.01.1995
6.) In service with VEX/Belgium: 27.10.1996
7.) In service with VEX Ireland: 30.06.1999
8.) Returned to VEX/Belgium: 21.02.2001
9.) In service with Flyglobespan/UK operated by Islandsflug: 24.03.2003
10.) And finally to FlyDBA: 09.01.2005
Dear readers, speaking with the captains words: Sit back, relax and enjoy this trip to Berlin.
On the way by car to STR airport, a sunny saturday morning around 7.30 am.
Arrived at 8.00 am and heading to T3 for the DI check-in desks, handled by Stuttgart Ground Services, two or three other pax there,
two desks open, one staffed by a middle aged female and the other, what a nice surprise, by fellow A.net member Ndebele.
We had a nice chat about this upcoming Berlin trip. Ndebele blocked the third seat in our row , send my suitcase
to the aircraft and told me some details about the flight. Real good job, Alex, well done.
STR T3, DI Check-in area:
Up the stairs for my usual check-in pic and passed security without any time to wait and problems.
At the gate at 08.30 a.m., boarding was announced for 08.55 a.m., the plane was on the screen incoming from TXL at 08.45 a.m., so I expected an ontime flight.
Ndebele operates also as the gate agent, arrived at 08.45 a.m. and another time for a nice chat about our special A.net interest.
Onur MD, new colours:
FRA diversions, OS A320 Vienna, LH A321 Istanbul:
D-ADIJ arrived as announced and boarding started at 09.00 am.
STR gate D-ADIJ:
We´re the first pax to board, Ndebele wished us a good trip and onto the plane for the flight to TXL.
Leisure leg no. 22 on the 737-300 and the second on this aircraft. Plane fitted with dark, blue leather seats, well maintained, in good conditions.
Free newspapers and magazines presented by a friendly middle aged FA at the front door, airbride boarding. Only a low load on this service. Boarding was quickly done.
Doors closed and the pilot welcomed us also on the plane by interkom. Expected flight time 55 minutes, low traffic, ontime service.
A long way to taxi for a runway 25 departure. A World Focus MD83 departed on runway 07 for a flight to Turkey and than it was our time to go.
A powerful, fast takeoff run and seconds later airborne and on the way to TXL. Clouds on the whole route, nothing for interesting pics.
Service was quickly done, one time free coffee/tea or beverages, a hot bread roll or a danish pastry. I had a nice chat about my fact sheet with the friendly FA from the front door, explained my detailed interest and some things about A.net.
She picked up my form and delivered it back to me only minutes later. Time goes by quick and we´re on approach to TXL runway 08L
for an ontime arrival. The friendly FA wished us a good day and presented some FlyDBA chocolates.
D-ADIJ at TXL:
Again a finger gate at TXL, deboarded quick and after five minutes to wait we´re on the way to the puplic transport ticket machines for a bus and
train ride to Friedrichstrasse station via Zoo, around 25 minutes. At our hotel, the Maritim proArte, around the corner from the train station at 12.00 am.
A highly recommendable hotel, in a perfect city center, but quiet location, booked by DERTour for 104.-- EUROS 1 night double room, b&b.
Lobby Maritim proArte:
Entrance Maritim proArte:
Time to go for our scheduled 1.30 pm Tempelhof tour at 12.45 am.
Enjoy the pics about a time machine run back to the early times of aviation:
1.) Delivered to USAirways: 28.09.1999
2.) In service with Germanwings: 01.12.2005
We explored another famous building at sunday morning, the new main train station Lehrter Bahnhof and the surrounding area, checked out at 2.p.m..
Main train station:
New Lehrter Bahnhof:
From Friedrichstrasse runs a direct train to Schoenefeld airport, at the airport at 2.45 pm.
On the way from Schoenefeld train station to the Terminal:
Four desks staffed in the new opened D area, no other customers there,
no time to wait and checked in by another friendly female for our flight home to STR. Pax no. 33 and 34 this time. We strolled around SXF, the EZY area crowed with pax, crossed security at 4. pm without any time to wait and settled down at the gates.
D-AKNM at SXF:
Our plane arrived, gate 11 showed on the screens , the crowd of pax moved up the stairs and to the older part of the main building. Turnaround was quick, only 15 minutes after arrival boarding was called, pax with children or in need for special assistance and germanwings
My son was first to board the plane and secured a seat in row 1 this time.
My son managed passport/ boarding pass control and boarding all alone as I was some pax later in the queue. No question if he´s travelling alone at all.
Welcomed by a friendly male FA. Plane filled up quickly, it seems a good load on this service. Another ex US-Airways aircraft, that means the bright, grey fabric seats,
wide was ok. Leisure leg No. 19 on the A319 and the first on this aircraft.
Doors closed at 5.pm and taxi for a runway 25L departure. They sold a lot of things on this service, I`am always impressed that the pax can´t stay without anything to drink and eat on such a short flight. As I want to ask the FA in the front galley about my Fact Sheet, he was not there, instead the FO was out of his office, we had a nice short chat about his job and my interest in it. He took my form, no problem and I settled down again in my seat.
Had another interesting chat with a woman sitting in the aisle seat about the long gone times of "classic, full-service flying". Approach to STR runway 25 started 25 minutes ahead to arrivals, good views during our approach and finally arrived at 6. pm. Parked on a apron stand, bus deboarding. Where is my fact sheet?.
The purser hold it and handed it out to me before deboarding and wished us a good day.
It was the last day of the easter holiday season, so masses of pax in the baggage claim area, but only some minutes to wait, bag arrived and on the way back home.
We had two real good days in Berlin, both FlyDBA and Germanwings operate ontime with acceptable fares, friendly people on the ground and on the planes.
Comments and critics always welcome,
Markus (FLIEGER67) and
Jan (maybe FLIEGER98)
FLIEGER67 From Austria, joined Sep 2003, 4788 posts, RR: 56 Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5101 times:
thanx for your reply.
If you´re also interested, beneath aviation, in architectural and historical details, the tour is highly recommendable, 10.-- EUROS isnt to much for it.
Do it and tell us about your opinion.
TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4690 posts, RR: 45 Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4940 times:
Once again thank you very much for putting up this interesting report - this time the English version.
Is it true that there are Nazi murals on the ceiling above the entrance, and that is the reason why there is a second, lower ceiling between the floor and the original one in the lobby?
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
FLIEGER67 From Austria, joined Sep 2003, 4788 posts, RR: 56 Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4853 times:
Hello and thanx for your replys,
My pic: On the roof of the main hall was made on the first ceiling above the entrance, you see that area was not finished, with iron parts outside the wall and else, can´t see anything about murals. Some parts of the wall overpainted, maybe.
Its true that the original entrance was as high as the building itself, the lower ceiling was built later.
Walking inside was like a maze, stairs up, stairs down.
We saw also tracks in a tunnel under the entrance.
Flying in and out THF from STR, that will be the top on such a trip, but sad, not possible. I will try DI from CGN later this year, as long as its possible.
RIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 783 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4837 times:
First of all a very thorough report from you, as always. I flew into Tempelhof from Riga in 1995 aboard a Hamburg Airlines (still flying?) from Riga. Tempelhof, for all its might and structure, reminded me more of a railway station than an airport.
How did Tempelhof escape the Allied bombing in WWII? Sub-ceilings or not to hide the past, this airport will remain in our history, especially during the years of the Berlin airlift.
FLIEGER67 From Austria, joined Sep 2003, 4788 posts, RR: 56 Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4832 times:
thanx for your reply.
Hamburg Airlines suspended operations some years ago.
Tempelhof is not comparable, IMO, with other operating airports.
Most of it was defunct after WWII and rebuilt later, quickly during the Berlin airlift.
BTW, a short, first time visit to Riga is also on my timetable for June, hope it will be a good time there.
Ndebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2897 posts, RR: 24 Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4672 times:
thanks for taking the time to write about your flights, and of course also about the "backstage" experience at THF, which I found quite interesting to read and watch. I didn't even know they offer tours like that. A pity you didn't catch a seat on the DC-3 (this would have completed the nostalgia) but maybe when you're at SXF during ILA you might have the chance to get a ticket?
FLIEGER67 From Austria, joined Sep 2003, 4788 posts, RR: 56 Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4643 times:
thanx for your reply.
Yes, different is the description, sorry, don´t know if the tour is available in english.
Thank you for your reply and once again thanx for our nice airport conversation.
Same idea, I asked last saturday for a possible DC-3 ride during my next Berlin/ILA visit, you know the answer, sold out.
Hope that my time on the ILA will show me other interesting aircraft.
FLIEGER67 From Austria, joined Sep 2003, 4788 posts, RR: 56 Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4529 times:
thanx for your reply.
Yes, thats cool, SNBrussels is the perfect airline to THF. According to our guide, SN is the only airline to park their planes under the roof of the terminal and not on the apron. That means you disembark by stairs like in a large hall.
And its really close to the city center, "Platz der Luftbrücke" 100 meters to go,
with the subway-station, three to four stations for Potsdamer Platz, Mitte or Friedrichstrasse. One day free public transport Zone A and B = 5,80 EUROS.
Check out air-service-berlin.de and search for "Rosinenbomber" for available dates and flights.
Wish you a good time there and share your experience with us.
Contact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4421 times:
great report - especially the part about the THF-tour is highly interesting. I only know THF as a passenger, so I liked your pictures about areas of the airport that are not accessable to ordinary pax very much. The tour sounds really interesting - I think I might try to get on such a tour when I visit Berlin next time.
FLIEGER67 From Austria, joined Sep 2003, 4788 posts, RR: 56 Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4409 times:
thanx for your reply.
The tour is especially when you also interested in historical and architectural
details, highly recommendable.
Do it as long as its possible.
FLIEGER67 From Austria, joined Sep 2003, 4788 posts, RR: 56 Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4131 times:
thanx for your reply.
I will do my best to send my son in the right direction!
And btw, STR is our favourite weekend excursion destination.
One question: What about the Benntrans truck ( a well known company for me) in your profile?.