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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5958 times:

"Backstage" Tempelhof airport during a Berlin trip from Stuttgart



Late last year, I´ve read about a guided tour through the worlds oldest active airport and also the worlds second largest
building: Famous Berlin-Tempelhof airport built around 1930.
Air Service Berlin offered these tour at Saturday, 22.04.2006, 1.30 pm.I´ve booked two tickets for me and my seven year old son
and another weekend trip to Berlin comes up.
We want to fly on ASB´s "Rosinenbomber" DC-3, but I´ve never thought about that high demand for this offer.
Booked the flights to and from Berlin late December last year and decided to book the DC-3 flights later. Sold out when I checked again about two months ago.
The friendly agent from ASB answered me by mail about that I will call them when I´am in Berlin, if there will be some cancelled seats.
Nothing cancelled on our possible flights, so the inside tour only and thats really worth the money.



Sector 1:

Fact sheet:






Saturday, 22.04.2006
STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen) - TXL (Berlin-Tegel)
DI 7028 operated by FlyDBA B737-300 D-ADIJ
Scheduled: 09.25 // 10.40
Actual: 09.30 // 10.30
Gate: 316 Seat: 03A and B
Load factor: 62 pax = 45,59 %
Fare: 47,09 EUR per pax



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History:
1.) Delivered to TEA/Belgium: 05.04.1991
2.) In service with AirAruba: 13.05.1991
3.) In service with EBA Eurobelgian: 16.03.1992
4.) In service with EBA Italy: 09.05.1993
5.) Returned to EBA Eurobelgian: 01.01.1995
6.) In service with VEX/Belgium: 27.10.1996
7.) In service with VEX Ireland: 30.06.1999
8.) Returned to VEX/Belgium: 21.02.2001
9.) In service with Flyglobespan/UK operated by Islandsflug: 24.03.2003
10.) And finally to FlyDBA: 09.01.2005


Dear readers, speaking with the captains words: Sit back, relax and enjoy this trip to Berlin.
On the way by car to STR airport, a sunny saturday morning around 7.30 am.
Arrived at 8.00 am and heading to T3 for the DI check-in desks, handled by Stuttgart Ground Services, two or three other pax there,
two desks open, one staffed by a middle aged female and the other, what a nice surprise, by fellow A.net member Ndebele.
We had a nice chat about this upcoming Berlin trip. Ndebele blocked the third seat in our row , send my suitcase
to the aircraft and told me some details about the flight. Real good job, Alex, well done.

STR T3, DI Check-in area:





Up the stairs for my usual check-in pic and passed security without any time to wait and problems.
At the gate at 08.30 a.m., boarding was announced for 08.55 a.m., the plane was on the screen incoming from TXL at 08.45 a.m., so I expected an ontime flight.
Ndebele operates also as the gate agent, arrived at 08.45 a.m. and another time for a nice chat about our special A.net interest.

Onur MD, new colours:





FRA diversions, OS A320 Vienna, LH A321 Istanbul:





D-ADIJ arrived as announced and boarding started at 09.00 am.

Arrival D-ADIJ:





Taxi D-ADIJ:





D-ADIJ parked:





STR gate D-ADIJ:





We´re the first pax to board, Ndebele wished us a good trip and onto the plane for the flight to TXL.
Leisure leg no. 22 on the 737-300 and the second on this aircraft. Plane fitted with dark, blue leather seats, well maintained, in good conditions.
Free newspapers and magazines presented by a friendly middle aged FA at the front door, airbride boarding. Only a low load on this service. Boarding was quickly done.
Doors closed and the pilot welcomed us also on the plane by interkom. Expected flight time 55 minutes, low traffic, ontime service.
A long way to taxi for a runway 25 departure. A World Focus MD83 departed on runway 07 for a flight to Turkey and than it was our time to go.
A powerful, fast takeoff run and seconds later airborne and on the way to TXL. Clouds on the whole route, nothing for interesting pics.
Service was quickly done, one time free coffee/tea or beverages, a hot bread roll or a danish pastry. I had a nice chat about my fact sheet with the friendly FA from the front door, explained my detailed interest and some things about A.net.
She picked up my form and delivered it back to me only minutes later. Time goes by quick and we´re on approach to TXL runway 08L
for an ontime arrival. The friendly FA wished us a good day and presented some FlyDBA chocolates.

D-ADIJ at TXL:





Again a finger gate at TXL, deboarded quick and after five minutes to wait we´re on the way to the puplic transport ticket machines for a bus and
train ride to Friedrichstrasse station via Zoo, around 25 minutes. At our hotel, the Maritim proArte, around the corner from the train station at 12.00 am.
A highly recommendable hotel, in a perfect city center, but quiet location, booked by DERTour for 104.-- EUROS 1 night double room, b&b.

Lobby Maritim proArte:





Entrance Maritim proArte:





Time to go for our scheduled 1.30 pm Tempelhof tour at 12.45 am.
Enjoy the pics about a time machine run back to the early times of aviation:

Entrance:





Inside THF, main building:





On the roof of the main hall:





THF, ten years ago:





Apron, DI F100 parked:





Apron from the roof:





Apron again:





Apron, BMW balloon in the back:





Rear side, THF Terminal:





In the shelther:





Shelther again:





Our experienced and perfect guide:





Main hall:





Baggage belt in the public area:





Good bye:







Sector 2:

Fact sheet:





Sunday, 23.04.2006
SXF (Berlin-Schönefeld) - STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen)
4U 2005 operated by Germanwings A 319 D-AKNM
Scheduled: 17.05 // 18.10
Actual: 17.00 // 18.00
Gate: 11 Seat: Free seating
Load factor: 129 pax = 90,85 %
Fare: 68,97 EUR per pax



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History:
1.) Delivered to USAirways: 28.09.1999
2.) In service with Germanwings: 01.12.2005

We explored another famous building at sunday morning, the new main train station Lehrter Bahnhof and the surrounding area, checked out at 2.p.m..

Main train station:





New Lehrter Bahnhof:





From Friedrichstrasse runs a direct train to Schoenefeld airport, at the airport at 2.45 pm.

On the way from Schoenefeld train station to the Terminal:






SXF, D-area:





Four desks staffed in the new opened D area, no other customers there,
no time to wait and checked in by another friendly female for our flight home to STR. Pax no. 33 and 34 this time. We strolled around SXF, the EZY area crowed with pax, crossed security at 4. pm without any time to wait and settled down at the gates.

4U sub-lease?:





Taxi D-AKNM:





D-AKNM at SXF:





Our plane arrived, gate 11 showed on the screens , the crowd of pax moved up the stairs and to the older part of the main building. Turnaround was quick, only 15 minutes after arrival boarding was called, pax with children or in need for special assistance and germanwings
creditcard-holders first.

Boarding D-AKNM:





My son was first to board the plane and secured a seat in row 1 this time.
My son managed passport/ boarding pass control and boarding all alone as I was some pax later in the queue. No question if he´s travelling alone at all.
Welcomed by a friendly male FA. Plane filled up quickly, it seems a good load on this service. Another ex US-Airways aircraft, that means the bright, grey fabric seats,
wide was ok. Leisure leg No. 19 on the A319 and the first on this aircraft.
Doors closed at 5.pm and taxi for a runway 25L departure. They sold a lot of things on this service, I`am always impressed that the pax can´t stay without anything to drink and eat on such a short flight. As I want to ask the FA in the front galley about my Fact Sheet, he was not there, instead the FO was out of his office, we had a nice short chat about his job and my interest in it. He took my form, no problem and I settled down again in my seat.
Had another interesting chat with a woman sitting in the aisle seat about the long gone times of "classic, full-service flying". Approach to STR runway 25 started 25 minutes ahead to arrivals, good views during our approach and finally arrived at 6. pm. Parked on a apron stand, bus deboarding. Where is my fact sheet?.
The purser hold it and handed it out to me before deboarding and wished us a good day.
It was the last day of the easter holiday season, so masses of pax in the baggage claim area, but only some minutes to wait, bag arrived and on the way back home.


We had two real good days in Berlin, both FlyDBA and Germanwings operate ontime with acceptable fares, friendly people on the ground and on the planes.
Well done.


Comments and critics always welcome,
Markus (FLIEGER67) and
Jan (maybe FLIEGER98)

[Edited 2006-04-27 22:46:09]


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User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5922 times:

Thanks for sharing your experience!
It's a pity that there are no flights between THF and STR.
I'm thinking about the THF tour. Hence I like to know whether you can recommend the tour?

pelican


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5501 times:

Hello, Fabian,
thanx for your reply.
If you´re also interested, beneath aviation, in architectural and historical details, the tour is highly recommendable, 10.-- EUROS isnt to much for it.
Do it and tell us about your opinion.
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5340 times:

Hi Markus!
Once again thank you very much for putting up this interesting report - this time the English version.  Smile
Is it true that there are Nazi murals on the ceiling above the entrance, and that is the reason why there is a second, lower ceiling between the floor and the original one in the lobby?



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3564 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5334 times:

Very nice... I read your Tripreport in German already, it is nice that you included it on A.net, as well...

You should try to get a flight to THF, which unfortunately isn't possible from STR...


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5253 times:

Hello and thanx for your replys,

Jens:
My pic: On the roof of the main hall was made on the first ceiling above the entrance, you see that area was not finished, with iron parts outside the wall and else, can´t see anything about murals. Some parts of the wall overpainted, maybe.
Its true that the original entrance was as high as the building itself, the lower ceiling was built later.
Walking inside was like a maze, stairs up, stairs down.
We saw also tracks in a tunnel under the entrance.

Michael:
Flying in and out THF from STR, that will be the top on such a trip, but sad, not possible. I will try DI from CGN later this year, as long as its possible.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineRIXrat From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5237 times:

First of all a very thorough report from you, as always. I flew into Tempelhof from Riga in 1995 aboard a Hamburg Airlines (still flying?) from Riga. Tempelhof, for all its might and structure, reminded me more of a railway station than an airport.

How did Tempelhof escape the Allied bombing in WWII? Sub-ceilings or not to hide the past, this airport will remain in our history, especially during the years of the Berlin airlift.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5232 times:

Hi, Emil,
thanx for your reply.
Hamburg Airlines suspended operations some years ago.
Tempelhof is not comparable, IMO, with other operating airports.
Most of it was defunct after WWII and rebuilt later, quickly during the Berlin airlift.
BTW, a short, first time visit to Riga is also on my timetable for June, hope it will be a good time there.
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineHKGKaiTak From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5199 times:

I too visited Templehof during my visit to Berlin last month, so different from every other airport ... didn't know about a guided tour though. Is it available in English as well or in German only?


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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5072 times:

Hi Markus,

thanks for taking the time to write about your flights, and of course also about the "backstage" experience at THF, which I found quite interesting to read and watch. I didn't even know they offer tours like that. A pity you didn't catch a seat on the DC-3 (this would have completed the nostalgia) but maybe when you're at SXF during ILA you might have the chance to get a ticket?

Regards, Alex.


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5043 times:

Hello, HKGKaiTak,
thanx for your reply.
Yes, different is the description, sorry, don´t know if the tour is available in english.

Alex:
Thank you for your reply and once again thanx for our nice airport conversation.
Same idea, I asked last saturday for a possible DC-3 ride during my next Berlin/ILA visit, you know the answer, sold out.
Hope that my time on the ILA will show me other interesting aircraft.

Best regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2392 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4980 times:

Thanks for yoour report! It was very interesting, I'll be visiting Berlin in August and will be LANDING at Tempelhof on SN Brussels Airlines. Cool!

Is it really that close to the city center?

How can I find out about those DC-3 flights? I'll be there on the 12th and 13th of August...

Regards,
LO231

Edit: typo

[Edited 2006-05-02 15:52:01]


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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4929 times:

Hi, LO231,
thanx for your reply.
Yes, thats cool, SNBrussels is the perfect airline to THF. According to our guide, SN is the only airline to park their planes under the roof of the terminal and not on the apron. That means you disembark by stairs like in a large hall.
And its really close to the city center, "Platz der Luftbrücke" 100 meters to go,
with the subway-station, three to four stations for Potsdamer Platz, Mitte or Friedrichstrasse. One day free public transport Zone A and B = 5,80 EUROS.
Check out air-service-berlin.de and search for "Rosinenbomber" for available dates and flights.
Wish you a good time there and share your experience with us.
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineContact Air From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 1154 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4821 times:

Hi Markus,

great report - especially the part about the THF-tour is highly interesting. I only know THF as a passenger, so I liked your pictures about areas of the airport that are not accessable to ordinary pax very much. The tour sounds really interesting - I think I might try to get on such a tour when I visit Berlin next time.

Christoph


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4809 times:

Hi, Christoph,
thanx for your reply.
The tour is especially when you also interested in historical and architectural
details, highly recommendable.
Do it as long as its possible.
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3462 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4587 times:

My salutations to Flieger98 Markus  Wink

A.Net is definitely a family affair  Wink

I'll maybe dare to ask you helping me spotting at STR !!!


User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4531 times:

Hi, Ahmed,
thanx for your reply.
I will do my best to send my son in the right direction!
And btw, STR is our favourite weekend excursion destination.
One question: What about the Benntrans truck ( a well known company for me) in your profile?.
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4436 times:

Nice report! Where can I read it in German? This August, I'm going to Berlin for 11 months and would like to brush up on any and all Flugzeugthemen.

[Edited 2006-06-03 14:34:37]

User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 5155 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4393 times:

Hi, Jason,
thanx.
I´ve send a mail to your adress.
Great, 11 months Berlin, a lot of good things to do there.
What´s the reason for your stay there?
Regards,
Markus (FLIEGER67)



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