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KL LHR-AMS-CP, Big And Upfront!  
User currently offlineKazzie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11309 times:

A Few months ago A thread started in Non-Av about a CPH meet, At first I didn’t consider it but as time went on I decided I wanted to go, While talking to Fellow Anetter Matt27 one night I decided to Look up flights…

My options where as follows:



LHR-AMS-CPH on KL with an A330.…

I decided to go for KL as for the amount of flights and A330 for the Price. And I was booked!

On Thursday 18th May I left home for 4 days away, Now on the Thursday I was not flying, But a very special Bird was paying a maiden Visit to the UK, The A380 and a separate meet was arranged for this occasion! So I planned to go to this meet up, spend the night at a friends then leave the next day for CPH.


After a great day and seeing the A380 I went back to my friends and spent a fun evening there. Soon enough the morning dawned And I made my own way (cheers Hannah ) to LHR..

KL operate from T4 at LHR.. I had never been through T4 before so was not to familiar. I used the self service check-in counter and printed my boarding pass and then dropped my bag off at the KL desk. I proceeded throu8gh security only to be selected for a random search Joy!

I had a wonder round and then gate 10 appeared on the screens, So I waddles over and took a seat as no Aircraft was there yet. Due to weather our Aircraft arrived late. She pulled up to the Gate, a beautiful crisp new KL A330.. My Aircraft today was PH-AOC, Number 3 off the KL A330 Line.

Boarding Passes for both Legs:
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As soon as a PSA arrived, passenger's grabbed there things and ran to the front of the queue, I waited in my seat thinking that If that was me at work id be pissed off with people crowding me just “to get on first”. After the Queue went down and people had scrambled on I got up and proceeded to board. As I handed my boarding pass over and passport open at the photo page I asked the PSA what the TOB was (Total on board) He looked at me weird and asked who I was?, I just said I was a PSA it Luton. He grinned and told me the TOB was 131+15 (argh 15 infants!). I proceeded down the jet way and then a blue glow came into place..

Here she was, My first every A330. I was pretty excited, I stepped on board and welcomed by the crew. Most of the PAX were now seated, Thank god it was not a full flight!. I found my seat and stowed my baggage. I had the 2 seats to myself yay!

Soon enough we started to push back though an hour late I didn’t worry as I had enough time to Connect in AMS.

We waited to take off for about 20 mins and before I knew it was lined up on 27L ready for take off, The wind today was pretty strong, As the pilots applied power they applied a lot of weight onto the rudder to keep her centered. No more than half way down we started to rotate into the bumpy British weather and started a steep climb out of LHR.


We soon reached out cruise level. After a famous KL cheese sandwich and water I decided to take some cabin shots, but as I Did this the seat belt signs turned on and It was time to take my seat for landing.

We descended into the dull and windy AMS weather. Flaps started to go down and the Gear was extended. As I was watching a tonne of Vapor and vortex shooting off the wing a guy in front of me was telling his girlfriend or wife I dunno how “this was not a normal landing, the wings shouldn’t move that much. These pilots must be Ex fighter pilots” I Just sat there with a grin on my face haha.

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We bumped our way down and bounced on the Kargbarn runway.. Oh great the kargbarn… wooohoo haha. So we started our next leg to the actual airport. Ounce we reached the gate I disembarked right away and headed into the AMS Terminal.

KL1131 (i think)

I still had about an hour or so to boarding, The place was packed and was pretty loud so I decided to try my Luck with the Servisair lounge. Once I arrived I entered and spoke to the member of staff there and showed her my work ID, She smiled and welcomed me into the lounge. What a view! I took a seat by the window and had a full on view of a DC-10! I jumped online to gloat a bit as you do , Soon enough It would soon be time to board, I left the lounge and headed to the D gates.

After a rustle of getting lost I found my gate and saw boarding had started, I handed over my boarding pass and said thank you the agent and smiled. Foe this flight I should be in Seat 6A. When I stepped on board I was welcomed by a cheery crew, I asked if it was possible to say hello to the captain, she replied with “sure thing!” nice one!, I hopped into the cockpit and shacked the hand of both pilots who where also very nice. I asked our flight level and they said it was to be FL330 today, We jumped into conversation about flying and Then he asked me if I was in flying school, I said no and told him I was a Passenger Service Agent for Servisair. At this point the looked at the co-pilot and then turned to me and asked if I had my ID with me, I did have it with me, As KaddyUk once said “If you have an Airport ID take it with you when you fly!” So I took it out of my bag and showed him, The cheeky bugger replied with “oh nice picture!” Oh haha, He turned to the co=pilot and started speaking dutch, At this time I though Oh My god Am I thinking what they are?. The Co pilot turned to me and grinned and asked me If I would like to sit in the cockpit for the flight….

With a HUGE grin on my face I accepted. The captain called in the cabin crew and told them that my seat would now be free and asked him to stow my bag, The F/A smiled and took my bag from me then pulled out the seat for me and offered me a drink, Just water for me for now J

The Captain started to brief me on safety and then handed me a head set to listen to ATC, Then to Co-pilot started to brief me on the flight status and showed me charts of the wind. We started to push back. The FO started the engines and explained to be what he was doing. The Tug left us and we edged forward on a smooth taxi to the runway. Once lined up the Pilots both looked at me and said this is the fun part.

Off we go, thrust up and the runways in front started to move forward. 20,30,50,80,100,130,140 and We gentle rotated into the bright cloud and started a steep climb away.


We popped out of the clouds at about 8,000 feet and started a slower climb, Soon enough we reached FL330, The guys turned round and started to have a chat more about flying then asked me what I was doing in CPH, After a few laughs FA walked in with some food, They gave me a Business class meal and then one each also to the crew. The captain turned down and decided to dig into his own little lunch box, I was offered another drink and asked for coke,

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some pretty rough weather!
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Me, IM happy Really!
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After some smoked Ham, Salad, Warm bread rolls and a Strawberry desert I was full, The crew started to show me some more charts and explained winds and so on, After a while it was time to make our decent into CPH, They started to tell me what to look out for while on final. We stared to dive down into broken cloud and what can I say? What an Amazing experience!, We started to make a few more turns, Gear was extended and flaps started to gradually extend, The crew pointed out the Runway 22L at CPH, ATC cleared us to land behind a Spanair A321 which just looked like a little dot! Haha. Lowe and lower we got, 22L started to become bigger and wider. Little did I know, but fellow user Matt27 and OYRJA were both watching my approach, and little did they know which seat I was in haha!

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We started to flear up and softly hit the runway, Break applied and reverse thrust was applied by the Captain, he looked at me and smiled. We started to taxi to the terminal and After another chat and laugh with the Crew we pulled up to our final Parking position,

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I thanked the crew and they seemed to be very pleased and gave me some charts bless them!
After all the PAX had de-boarded the bid the crew farewell and left the Aircraft.

After meeting BMIflyer at baggage claim ail got my things and headed towards the exit, We walked out to find user Matt27 and OYRJA waiting for us, After a huge hug from matt27, and abusing OYRJA we started to head over to the bar to meet other users and there forth the CPH meet was kicked started!

This has to rank as one of the best days ever! My first A330, a jump seat and an amazing night!

I want to send a Special thanks to the following:

KLM - For a fantastic Flight and fantastic Service
The KLM Crew - For giving me an experience Ill never forget

Thomas (AKA OYRJA / Homer) - For putting me up for the weekend
Matt27 - For pics and well, being a good mate
BMIflyer - for being the center of piss taking
Hannah - For putting me up for the night and getting niiice food J

And of course a Big thanks to everyone who attended CPH!

[Edited 2006-06-15 00:34:01]

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[Edited 2006-06-15 00:52:18]

26 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From France, joined Sep 2003, 5229 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11276 times:

Hi, Kazzie,
great report and congrats to you jumpseat flight.
I know you was on an A330 LHR to AMS but on AMS-CPH?.
BTW, I think I need an airport ID now!.
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Next: The Vallee de Dordogne!.
User currently offlineKazzie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11261 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
I know you was on an A330 LHR to AMS but on AMS-CPH?.

Thank you! sorry I forgot to Add flight info,


I have added the info into the report!  Smile

User currently offlineFlyingchoirboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 285 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11252 times:
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What a cool trip report! I wish I could have gone to the CPH meet. It sounded like an awesome time!


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11233 times:

Great report, nice that you scored (again) the 3rd best seat on the plane!

Has KL the same jumpseat policy as AF now?  Silly  Wink Not to mean that negative, always very, very cool to see when airlines allowing normal passengers to experience a jumpseat ride!

Great pics, btw.


User currently offlineKazzie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11233 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 4):
Has KL the same jumpseat policy as AF now? Silly Wink Not to mean that negative, always very, very cool to see when airlines allowing normal passengers to experience a jumpseat ride!

I doubt they would have let me if I did not have any Airport ID on me...so I doubt its the same as AF

But I have respect for AF after that Jumpseat last Year when I was not airport Staff!  Smile

User currently offlineTmarch291 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 147 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11043 times:

Great report, you lucky people in accross the pond get to ride in the jupseat all you want.....it isn't fair!  cry 

User currently offlineThepilot From Canada, joined Jan 2010, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 10949 times:

Miss Karis,
Very nice report! You're very lucky to get to jump, we can't do that anymore in the US. Great cockpit shots!

From YVR
User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10913 times:

Great Trip report Kaz! I'm glad finally to see someone write about a trip report on the new Klm's 330's!

KLM- The Best Airline in the World!
User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 weeks ago) and read 10837 times:

Finally a trip report of the KL A330 and first I read from you, Thanks for that ! How lucky you are to have been 'jumpseating' on that B733 with those cool guys ! Excellent pictures !!


User currently offlineLouA340 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10543 times:

wow, great report. And as everyone said it, great luck to get a chance to fly in the jumpseat.  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineDoor5Right From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 709 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10382 times:

Great report and pictures and very nice to see a photograph of the crew who invited you to change seats, lucky girl!

My soul is in the sky...
User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4377 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10375 times:

Great reprt you've here! Yes, KL can be a really great airline. The A330 is on my wish list too, but didn't get the chance yet to fly one. When KL receives more of them, they get on LHR services every day. Now, they only operate on occasional flights. Most of them are still flown by B763.
You've been really lucky to score the flightdeck! I got many upgrades upfront on KL, but not that far 'upfront' you've got it!  Great to see you had some wishes come true. (and I like your picture of your A330 climb out of LHR!)


[Edited 2006-06-15 21:01:17]

"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6526 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 10140 times:

Quoting Kazzie (Thread starter):
Boarding Passes for both Legs:

Nice pun, but apparantly your "two legs" were joined by the remainder of your body on these flights ... Big grin
Great having met you in CPH !
Holger aka. -HT

Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
User currently offlineMyt332 From Australia, joined Sep 2003, 9114 posts, RR: 69
Reply 14, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10064 times:

Quoting Kazzie (Thread starter):
I went back to my friends and spent a fun evening there.

Where we watched Question Time and you didn't even get one question right!

Quoting Kazzie (Thread starter):
After a famous KL cheese sandwich

I'm not amused!

Quoting Kazzie (Thread starter):
I hopped into the cockpit and shacked the hand of both pilots

Did they appreciate you doing that to their hands?

So you had a good flight then, nice one.  Smile

One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineKLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 812 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9879 times:

Quoting Alphafloor (Reply 9):
How lucky you are to have been 'jumpseating' on that B733 with those cool guys ! Excellent pictures !!

Take another look at those flightdeck pictures, that's not a 733 my friend.

User currently offlineSegmentQueen From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 9697 times:

Man, I can't wait to get on one of our 747's one of these days and see the sights! Seeing these pics have made me even more determined to go now!

User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9638 times:

It was a lot of fun reading your report and seeing the pictures. It goes to show that one must not be shy.

User currently offlineYYZflyer From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 3644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9539 times:

Cool trip report!!

You're sooo lucky to be able to fly jumpseat. I'd love to be able to do that.

Avoid hangovers, stay drunk.
User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (9 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9515 times:

Referring to the past picture -- that's one of biggest smiles I've ever seen.

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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8694 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9383 times:
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Nice report Kaz,

I've been toying with idea of the KL flight just to get a 332 as all my 30 flights have been on US Airways 333's......

Quoting Kazzie (Thread starter):
The Co pilot turned to me and grinned and asked me If I would like to sit in the cockpit for the flight….

-How lucky or what?!

Great stuff, look forward to more reports.



User currently offlineArdian From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9192 times:

Kargbarn runway

It is Kaagbaan, but I must say Kargbarn sounds better  Wink
Nice tripreport with great pictures!

User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4107 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (9 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9047 times:

Hello Kazzo,

Very nice report, what a day it must have been, crew look really nice  

See you at the travelinn in 2 weeks missy 


[Edited 2006-06-20 00:55:59]

Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineAviationfreak From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1166 posts, RR: 38
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8389 times:

Great report Kaz! It makes me smile big time being overseas for over a year now! Hopefully we'll see eachother again some time now I'm back in Europe.


I love both Airbus and Boeing as much as I love aviation!
User currently offlineJetMech From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 2700 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8310 times:

Very nice report Kazzie, thanks for that!

JetMech split the back of his pants. He can feel the wind in his hair.
25 Post contains images Vio : Great report Kazzie. I envy you Cheers, Vio
26 Post contains images SpdbrdConcorde : You are one lucky lady..BTW..The KLM crew are very cool about access to the FD...
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