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The Long Way Home! SAN [...] COS (AA, NW)  
User currently offlineMaxQ2351 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

Hey all,

Well, here's my first attempt at a trip report!! Since I got out of school back in May, I've been doing a bunch of traveling. My dad works for NWA and my mom for AA, so I have travel benefits on two airlines, which is really nice, except during the summer travel season when all the flights are full and I can never go anywhere!!! I live in Colorado Springs, so I've mostly just been going to DFW a bunch since AA has 7 flights a day between DFW and COS, and the morning and evening ones are usually open enough that I can get my own DEF row on their Super 80's.

Anyhow, my family and myself used to live in San Diego before we moved here to Colorado, so we always go back there a bunch and visit our friends. Last Thursday, I flew COS-DFW-SAN, and it was smoooooth sailing!! Got an F class seat on the COS-DFW. The DFW-SAN was an ex-TWA 757. I didn't get F, but I did get the exit row, seat 25D. Now THAT is legroom!!

So after a great week in SAN, it's time to head home!! So, I check Jetnet (AA's employee server), and SAN-DFW is looking pretty full....so I check LAX-DFW...even worse!! So, after about 2 hours of looking at every possible option and contingency, I'm thinking the best option is to take AA Eagle SAN-LAX, and NWA LAX-MSP-COS. Now for the report!!


Flight# 3058
Saab 340B(Plus), N388AE
Seat: 14A
SAN-LAX
Dep- 635a PDT
Arr- 659a PDT

If you're traveling nonrev on American, not only do you have to get up early enough to get to the airport ontime, you have to get up 4 hours before the flight so you can check-in to get the best possible priority for seat selection!! When you have a 6am flight, getting up 4 hours ahead of time does not make for a good start to your day!! So, I head to the airport, and all is hunky-dory until the agent informs me the flight is weight limited....  Wow!

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The American Eagle flightline in SAN just before sunrise


I think the Saab 340 is one of the most miserable planes there is!! I mean, what kind of aircraft cannot go ONE HUNDRED MILES without being weight limited!! It's pathetic!!! Anyhoo, they go through the entire boarding process and after what seems like an eternity...."Will all American Eagle 3058 standby passengers please see me at the podium"

So, I actually got a seat!! 14A...


I'm 6'5" and 31" pitch is very tight for me. The 29"-30" on those Saabs is even worse!!

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N388AE right before the pre-boarding


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In flight at our cruising altitude of 8,000ft. I didn't know SAN-LAX was an ETOPS flight!!  Silly


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On short final into LAX



Despite having a 29" pitch, it was not a bad flight!! We got some pretty good bumps during our whole 24 minutes of flying, so that made it rather enjoyable!! We arrived early, at 659a PDT. Next flight, LAX-MSP with a scheduled departure of 855a PDT.



Flight# 90
757-351, N589NW
Seat: 40F
LAX-MSP
Dep- 903a PDT
Arr- 157p CDT

I don't go in and out of LAX a lot, so maybe I don't see everything, but I still think it's a rather trashy airport on the inside compared to others!! Anyway, my chances of getting on Flt 90 were looking a LOT better. The NWA 753's can hold 200 in Y, and it was booked to 161. So, unless a flight was canceled or something, it was looking good!! I go up and talk to the agent, and I find out that the flight is in fact so open, that I may get an entire exit row to myself!! Now that's fine flying!!! Seat 40F (40D and 40E were empty too!!):

The ONLY disadvantage to sitting in row 40 in a 757-351 is that there are about 200 people that have to deplane upon arrival before you even have room to stand up, even when they're using door 2L!!


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Now that is some fine legroom!!


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Looking across the aisle. In the aft cabin there was me and about 8 other people.


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Sitting at the gate, right before pushback


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Takeoff roll. Although obviously not as fast as the 757-200's, the 757-351 still had some pretty good acceleration!!


Since I got up at 2am, I slept through the entire cruise portion of the flight, so I don't know how the cabin service was!! I did wake up at about the top-of-descent when we started to get the $#!T kicked out of us with some bad turbulence.


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Top of descent. Some nice Minnesota weather!!


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On final into the twin cities


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Rolling to the end of the runway in MSP


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Taxi to the gate. Can you spot the tail that doesn't belong!?! Big grin



Even though I'm not a fan of the long flights, I rather enjoyed this one!! It was my first flight on a 753, and I must say, I was rather impressed with its performance. Other than the VERY long wait to get off the plane, I must say it was a flawless flight!!

So, we arrived in MSP at 157p. My COS flight didn't depart until 935p. SEVEN AND A HALF HOURS!!! Holy crap!! I actually considered taking a CRJ somewhere and back, like to MLI or RST or something, but I figured that was a bad idea. After walking around for a bit, I discovered that there was a tram to the Mall of America!! Great, something to do!!

Now, I don't know how many of you have taken that MSP tram, but that place is like an ex-Civil Defense Shelter!!
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Inside the Mall of America


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Camp Snoopy, in the center of the mall



After quite a few good hours at the mall, it was time to go back to MSP for the flight home.



Flight# 1233
A-320/212, N375NC
Seat: 10A
MSP-COS
Dep- 949p CDT
Arr- 1035p MDT

Even though I love flying, I had really had enough by now!! 1233 was not as empty as 90, but I did get an exit row again, seat 10A:


I was so exhausted that I took two pictures on this flight and that was it!! Both were taken in MSP, notice how quickly it became dark out!!

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At the gate


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Taxi to runway....sorry for the blur!!



I got up at 2am, and I didn't get home until midnight. Gotta love those 22 hours days!!! It was a great trip home though, just VERY long!! If you've never been to the Mall of America, I definitely reccommend that!! Even if you just have a long layover like I did, there are big lockers in the mall that you can put your bags in so you don't look like you're hauling around duffels full of stolen stuff!! Out of all the flights, I must say I enjoyed the 757 the best. It's a great plane and I hope the 757 lives on for a long time!! I was very sad the day the 727's saw retirement, but it'll be even worse when the 757 begins retirement from the fleets!!

Well, I hope you enjoyed reading this!! Any comments welcome!!

-Max

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User currently offlineOldman55 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1524 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

Great report and pics. Hey its not often you see pics of a mall,of all things in an aviation site,but what the heck, it is the largest mall in the U.S.  Cool


too bad most of us get too soon old and too late smart
User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3277 posts, RR: 45
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

Great report Matt! I'd add you to my RU list but....we'll you see the problem. I'm liking the pictures of the MoA. And the Tram station really is a civil defense shelter (figuratively of course). The last time I was on that tram, some kid got arrested by 2 cops and was taken off in handcuffs. Interesting stuff!

Talk to you later!

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8661 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3718 times:

Good trip report. When I went as non-rev I was pretty nervise too, but US helped me out.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3713 times:

Quoting MaxQ2351 (Thread starter):

Camp Snoopy, in the center of the mall

It's not camp snoopy anymore, its the Park at MOA. They ruined everything at Mall of America, minus the 6 Victoria's Secret stores  Smile



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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3500 times:

Quoting MaxQ2351 (Thread starter):

I think the Saab 340 is one of the most miserable planes there is!! I mean, what kind of aircraft cannot go ONE HUNDRED MILES without being weight limited!! It's pathetic!!! Anyhoo, they go through the entire boarding process and after what seems like an eternity...."Will all American Eagle 3058 standby passengers please see me at the podium"

I personally find the SF3s rather fun. Also, it was probably weight restricted becasue of winds etc. A saab could easily make a 110 mile flight with MTOW on full fuel on a "normal" day.


User currently offlineMaxQ2351 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3479 times:

Quoting Oldman55 (Reply 1):
it is the largest mall in the U.S.

And most assuredly the best, too!!!

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 2):
I'd add you to my RU list but....we'll you see the problem.

Well thank you sir....haha, yes I do see the problem!!

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 2):
The last time I was on that tram, some kid got arrested by 2 cops and was taken off in handcuffs.

Yea there were quite a few people on there that I'd imagine would fit that profile of having the same thing happen!!

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 3):
Good trip report. When I went as non-rev I was pretty nervise too, but US helped me out.

Thanks. Yea, once you get used to it, it's a breeze. This spring break I was going to go to DCA, and in order to get there (spring break travel) I was going to have to take upwards of 5 different flights!! Once you get in the saddle, you get used to it pretty quick.

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 4):
minus the 6 Victoria's Secret stores

I don't typically shop at those but to each their own I guess. MUAHAHAHAHAH I'm MESSING with you Burns!!!

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 5):
Also, it was probably weight restricted becasue of winds etc

But still, 100 miles!!! I could run that!! Haha....yea, I do an ultra-marathon every weekend!!  Yeah sure If only AA Eagle would expedite the retirement of the Saabs and get some more ERJ's. If they started getting ERJ's with winglets, those would be HOTT in AA colors!!!

-Max


User currently offlineFlyingchoirboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 281 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3454 times:
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awesome trip report!

-scott



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3448 times:

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 5):
I personally find the SF3s rather fun. Also, it was probably weight restricted becasue of winds etc. A saab could easily make a 110 mile flight with MTOW on full fuel on a "normal" day.



Quoting MaxQ2351 (Thread starter):
So, I head to the airport, and all is hunky-dory until the agent informs me the flight is weight limited....

Sounds like a weight and balance issue to me. Ever since the Air Midwest accident a few years ago, the FAA has upped the passenger weights, and now the smaller aircraft cannot take as many passengers and bags as they used to before reaching maximum zero-fuel weight. This is one issue that you don't tend to see on larger aircraft due to the large amount of weight that they are actually designed for, and the weight differences are compensated for by reducing the amount of weight in the cargo hold.



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