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New Terminal 4 At JFK -- Ugh!  
User currently offlineIronminds From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 556 posts, RR: 4
Posted (15 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3623 times:

OK, I just flew in today to the new terminal 4 at JFK from Istanbul (trip reports on a buncha flights to come tonight or tomorrow), and what a mess! PAX had to be guided through a maze that involved clearing immigration in an old section of the building (and perfunctorily handled by inspectors who's only vocabulary seemed to be "come on!" and "over here!" before ka-chunking there stamps into passports) and then were guided to another baggage area in a whole other new part of the building to collect their luggage. OPf course, only two carousels were working and handling several 747s worth of luggage, and it took an hour to come off with all the stopping and starting (hardhats were actually there restting the system every five minutes). Coming out into the new terminal area (architecturally nice), the place was half finished, with workemen all over the place, nothing working, including cash machines -- I had to walk to the TWA terminal to get cab fare - and incredibly rude people who knew where nothing was and used the excuse "it's our first day" repeatedly. Well, if the place isn't ready yet, DON'T OPEN IT!

As a person who's been to a lot of really crummy countries I have to say that I felt like I had just touched down in soem third world hellhole where they spend a fortune on a snazzy airport with no services or functionality. I hope it improves, as does the attitude of those who work there, damn quick.

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User currently offlineN949WP From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2000, 1437 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (15 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

Well, that's typical New York!!


User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6383 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (15 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

I've been to JFK anf flown out of JFK and I can asuure you that yes the airport is a mess and they seem to hire the rudest people in and around the NYC area. The people at JFK should hire better staffs.
Puerto Rico

Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineOliver From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3446 times:

I totally agree with you...
JFK is cramped, old and there's nothing to do there...

User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (15 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3426 times:

I agree. I thought LaGuardia and Newark were nicer!

Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
User currently offlineIronminds From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 556 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (15 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

well, i actually got a decent tour of the place looking for a working cash machine, and it looks like there is more stuff to do...but nothing all that exciting, just kinda middling airport shops and stuff. at least this terminal seems to have windows!

ewr (newarK) is a nicer airport, though bars are poorly spaced.

User currently offlineGOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (15 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3410 times:

Ironminds, it could be a bit hard to shut down a whole terminal at JFK during operation, it must be almost impossible.


Just like birdwatching - without having to be so damned quiet!
User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 754 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (15 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3400 times:

Terminal 4 is probably the worst of all the terminals...take it from someone who works in Terminal 3

Sorry about your experience.


..uh, we'll need that to live......
User currently offlineMcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (15 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

Flew into T4 on 1 May and had to go through the maze as well. We still had to use the old baggage belts but we walked through where the new ones are and where the new check-ins are. I think the terminal will be nice when it is finished but god....it's gonna be hell until its done and I still have a few JFK-DUB-JFK flights to do!!!

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (15 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3378 times:

The new T4 will kick ass when it is open though.

User currently offlineDelta717 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 457 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (15 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

T4 will definetly kick some major ass when it's all open! And to all you New York disser's out there-New York is a great place once you get to know it!!! LGA is much worse than JFK considering the # of Runway Incursions, Delayed Flights, Runway waiting lines, crowds, and lost luggage. You just happened to fly into T4 at the wrong time! And to Oliver--the only thing cramped and old in JFK is T4E and 4W. T1 (The best one), 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 are excellent with a ton of viewing points!

User currently offlineBpat777 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 595 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (15 years 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

Give Terminal 4 a chance....At least wait until it is completely done before you rip it apart...I'm sure there won't be too many complaints once it's fully operating in a few weeks...Besides anything will be an improvement over the original....I can't wait for the AA terminal to open....From the looks of the model they have in terminal 8 it will be the best to come to JFK..

User currently offlineIronminds From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 556 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (15 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3310 times:

I'm sure it will be fine - but there is no excuse for opening a terminal without basic services operating.

User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (15 years 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

T4 is al ready kicking ass i just got back 5 minutes ago and all the cash machines are working and I can't wait to seethe horrible old termianl go to hell. It's too bad that the main terminal at LGA doesn't suffer the same fate. For all you NY bashers. LGA better than JFk !?! Not by a long shot. LGA is the worst for delays and runway incursions as also NYC mayor Rudy Guliani complained that LGA runways are too short. Have any of you actually flew out of LGA.? Unless if it's the Marine Tereminal everything else is a hell hole!!! EWR is much better. But seroiuylsy LGA better!!! Lay off the bad crack.

User currently offlineBpat777 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 595 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (15 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

There is an article in todays N.Y. Times 5/21/01 on Terminal 4....They have a few good photos of the interior...

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