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EWR-TLV On CO (with Pictures).  
User currently offlineT7ILS13LatJFK From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 84 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 13303 times:

First of all, I'll start off by saying that this is my first trip report on a.net.
I'm aware of the scarcity of USA-TLV trip reports here on a.net, so I'm happy that I can at least post one.

Alright, so here are it is...

Tuesday, August 15, 2006
CO 84 (EWR-TLV)
STD - 16:05
ATD - 16:27
STA - 9:30 (August 16)
ATA - 9:43
Aircraft - Boeing 777-224ER - Aircraft Reg. - N78003
Flight Time - 10:16
Seat - 17J

Upon arrival at EWR's terminal C, I found myself in a sea of travellers waiting in line to check in to a number of CO's various destinations. I knew that CO's TLV flights had some sort of dedicated check in area, however I couldn't find it, so I didn't even bother searching and got in line. After standing in this line for about twenty minutes, I finally realized I was indeed standing in the wrong line for my flight. It seemed like this line took forever to move. I scanned the airport and there I saw a sign about 50 feet from me that said Tel Aviv and India flights, which was turned backwards. How convenient! Anyway, after seeing this sign, I realized that the passengers waiting in that line fit the stereotype of passengers that would normally travel to TLV. So I left my "old" line and walked over to my "new" line where I checked in for my flight... This line went significantly quicker than the CO "concoction of destinations" line, if you will. I purposely didn't check in on CO's website because it was my first time flying with them. However, I did get the seat I chose on CO's website, 17J, about one month beforehand. Surprisingly, I wasn't even asked any security related questions about my bags.
After I checked in, I walked down a flight of stairs and, for the second time that day, was greeted by a long line of travellers. This time it was the line for TSA's security checkpoint. After about fifteen minutes in that line, I was relieved to finally get to the airside portion of terminal C. Again, this was my first time flying out of C. I was impressed by how modern it looked, at least until I got to my gate area. I didn't go into any shops or duty free stores. Instead, I headed straight to gate 98, where I found a "closed off" kind of area for a second set of security screening. This is because all flights to Tel Aviv, I assume, are under more intense security. I then met fellow a.netter Bill; a flight attendant for CO. Beside him stood Faroukh. Faroukh would fly to TLV that day. They both introduced me to some of the crew. Bill let them know I was an aviation enthusiast, etc., and that I would love to check out the flight deck. They were very nice about it. About ten minutes later, they made their way to the aircraft and I waited around, checking out some other gates and airplanes, made a phone call to my girlfriend and brother, etc. The gates where 98 is are older, I think. Well, they looked that way to me.
I desperately wanted to snap a shot of N78003, but this undercover looking guy came over to me and told me not to. Hmmm. Sorry about that.
It was now time to board, and naturally, BizFirst passengers boarded first, followed by Economy passengers in descending order (of rows, that is). I was one of the last to board because my seat was the second row of Economy class.
Down the jet bridge I went and before entering the aircraft, I did my usual ritual; I placed my right hand on the fuselage. I was greeted at the door by a male, Israeli flight attendant. He didn't really say anything. If I may point out, on both of my CO flights, the attendant at the door doesn't really greet you. Rather they just put their arm towards the aisle or through the galley or towards the front of the airplane (BizFirst). This was on my flight coming back too.
Once I got to my seat, an elderly lady, who spoke no English whatsoever, was already seated in the window seat. I put my bag on the empty seat beside me. I waited for the ISM (International Service Manager), Karol, to come and call me up to the flight deck. Karol had greying blonde hair. She must have been 60 or so. Well after all, this is one of CO's "senior" routes and the youngest of the cabin crew on todays flight must have been no younger that 35. He was working BizFirst and was the second of the two Hebrew speaking attendants on todays flight. Anyway, I went to the flight deck. There, I was happily welcomed by the three pilots who would be flying me to TLV today. Kelly, the third pilot (and a three striped First Officer), stepped out and let me sit in his seat. Rene, our Captain and the other First Officer (forgive me, I forgot his name), spoke to me about my plans in college and stuff... I asked them various questions and they gave me very detailed answers. Rene is a flight instructor in Denver, and he gave me his business card. Maybe I'll visit him and get some lessons. I spoke to the two for a good twenty minutes until the gate agent came into the flight deck, leaned on Rene's seat and said, "Alright Captain, we're all ready." Maybe it was, "you're all ready." Anyway, Captain Rene immediately lifted his leg, which was crossed over the other and said, "OK, lets fly to Tel Aviv". What spirit! I said thank you and asked to come back post flight. They told me to just come right up after we began to deplane in Tel Aviv. I walked back to my seat and sat down. I snapped a few photos. I also took some video clips of the taxi, take off and climb out.
Here's a CO airplane beside ours at EWR:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture001.jpg

We taxied for a bit. Here's the video:
http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n...action=view¤t=EWRTaxiing.flv

There was a lot of ground traffic that afternoon at EWR (probably every day around that time?). About fifteen minutes before departure, Captain Rene came on to the intercom and told us we were number eight in line for take off. We slowly made our way up to number one, powered down Runway 22R (from Whiskey), and climbed out of EWR. Here are the clips of the take-off and climbout:

EWR.flv" target=_blank>http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n...ction=view¤t=TakeOff-EWR.flv

http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n...ion=view¤t=ClimboutofEWR.flv

Shortly after take off, the drink service commenced. Here's a picture of the pretzels and Sprite I requested.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture007.jpg

Todays cabin crew was pretty much split down the middle male/female wise. I'd say five men, seven women, to my knowledge. Three men up front in the flight deck (as I said before).
Twenty minutes after the drink service was finished, the dinner service commenced. They offered the usual chicken or beef. I opted for the beef. It had mashed potatos and vegetables beside it, along with a salad, a roll, and this really good brownie bar. Overall, the food was fine.
Here's a photo of it:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture008.jpg

After my tray was taken away, I tried to sleep for a bit. I may have slept for about an hour. After that, I watched some TV, played hangman, and walked around and snapped some shots of the cabin. Sorry for the bad quality again.
Here is a shot:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture013.jpg

After this, I went to the galley and chatted with Faroukh and Kevin (hmm, I don't think Kevin was his name, but it sounded like that; lets just call him K). They told me about their careers with CO and how much they love it. I showed them my book, "Plane Insanity" and they read through it a bit. They laughed and told me that they had similar encounters, though definitely not all.
K noticed that I didn't have my bookmark and offered to give me one with Christian prayers and an American Flag on top. I gladly accepted it from him. He was married. Faroukh gave me a lot of insight into his career. While I was in the rear of the airplane, I took a few photos of the outer lights on the wings. Sorry for the bad quality and shaking as there was a good deal of turbulence.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture014.jpg

This one was somewhere over Italy, when the sun seemed to be coming up:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture015.jpg

More random shots at cruising altitude:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture010.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture009.jpg

I went back to my seat and doze off for a bit. Shortly after, breakfast was served. They offered cereal or eggs. I took the eggs. It was decent. Sorry, I forgot to take a photo.

About twenty minutes after breakfast was cleaned up, we began our decent into Tel Aviv and made a smooth landing on TLV's Runway 12. Here's a video of the approach, landing and taxiing:

TLV.flv" target=_blank>http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n...ction=view¤t=Landing-TLV.flv

After we taxied to the gate and began to deplane, I went straight up to the flight deck. I thanked the three pilots for a great flight and asked Captain Rene if I could take a few photos of the flight deck. He was more than happy to let me. So I snapped away:
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture017.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture018.jpg

Overall, I was very pleased with my first trip on CO. They truly offer a great product and, on todays flight, I think I got some of the friendliest cabin crew in the industry. I give them a big thumbs up.
I want to post a report for my flight back to EWR and I probably will, however, my camera battery died. I took a few photos of the TLV terminal, on the return, which I will post here. I hope this report was satisfactory and I promise to take better pictures next time. Otherwise, I will most likely post TLV-EWR, without photos, shortly.
Here are some random photos of the TLV terminal (airside):
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture019.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture020.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/t7ils13latjfk/Picture021.jpg


"You Know Dam Right!! & - Winds are 060 at 8, 4 Left, cleared to go."
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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 13188 times:

Mike... Ma matsav akhi ???

Excellent TR... i was looking forward to it... i hope you had a great time in Israel...

I'll be on AIM... hit me up!

Litraot!

Zaki


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 13051 times:

Great report, Mike! It must be really cool to meet the flight crew and be treated like a VIP on both ends! I loved the "Ok, let's fly to Tel Aviv" line.

Quoting T7ILS13LatJFK (Thread starter):
K noticed that I didn't have my bookmark and offered to give me one with Christian prayers and an American Flag on top. I

Interesting...On a flight from NYC-TLV haha......


User currently offlineT7ILS13LatJFK From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 84 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 12 hours ago) and read 13016 times:

Hey, thanks guys.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 2):
Great report, Mike! It must be really cool to meet the flight crew and be treated like a VIP on both ends! I loved the "Ok, let's fly to Tel Aviv" line.

I thought it was GREAT when he said that.

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 2):
Interesting...On a flight from NYC-TLV haha......

Yeah, but hey, the crew was very diverse lol....What a nice guy he was.



"You Know Dam Right!! & - Winds are 060 at 8, 4 Left, cleared to go."
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 12937 times:

That dinner looks absolutely disgusting.

What happened to CO's promise to provide superior meals when they began to charge for alcoholic beverages on board?

Gone down the drain apparently.


User currently offlineT7ILS13LatJFK From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 84 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 12922 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 4):
That dinner looks absolutely disgusting.

Well thanks for your honesty, but now I'll be honest. It wasn't half as bad as it looked. Really. I forgot to mention, the metal silverware was a nice touch.



"You Know Dam Right!! & - Winds are 060 at 8, 4 Left, cleared to go."
User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 12662 times:

A piece of cheese and a decent cake would be nice. The rolls look better than before.

User currently offlineJFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 12622 times:

Food looks better than the Kosher meal I would have gotten.


Great trip report and hope you had fun in Israel.


User currently offlineThereAndBack From Turkey, joined Aug 2005, 699 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 12360 times:

Quoting T7ILS13LatJFK (Thread starter):
Sorry for the bad quality again.
Here is a shot:

It looks cool blurry its abstract.

CO looks good I haven't flown with them in years.

TLV looks really cool too.

Great report!

 Smile


User currently offlineT7ILS13LatJFK From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 84 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 12326 times:

Quoting Semsem (Reply 6):
A piece of cheese and a decent cake would be nice. The rolls look better than before.

Yes, if I remember correctly, LY gives this and somewhat more food. However, the amount of food given satisfied me. Could have given slightly more, like LY, but hey.

Quoting JFK69 (Reply 7):
Great trip report and hope you had fun in Israel.



Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 8):
Great report!

Thanks guys, and I will try to do even better next time.

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 8):
It looks cool blurry its abstract.

Haha, but for some, it may come off as unpleasant. Thanks though.

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 8):
CO looks good I haven't flown with them in years.

TLV looks really cool too.

CO is a wonderful airline (on this route at least), and I would NOT hesitate in flying them again.
TLV's Terminal 3 is really modern and has a calm, yet vibrant feel to it. Really nice.
If you fly TK there, maybe you'll luck out and fly the new A332 that you've been wanting to fly.



"You Know Dam Right!! & - Winds are 060 at 8, 4 Left, cleared to go."
User currently offlineThereAndBack From Turkey, joined Aug 2005, 699 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 hours ago) and read 12282 times:

Quoting T7ILS13LatJFK (Reply 9):
If you fly TK there, maybe you'll luck out and fly the new A332 that you've been wanting to fly.

Oh that would be amazing! But I have finally seen a picture of the cabins of the new A332 so I am satisfied... just for now.

I hope to see more reports from you!


User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11861 times:

The food on El Al is a lot better and more generous. Also on LY you get an additional 1" in legroom; 32" compared to 31" on the CO 777. CO 767s do have 32" though.

[Edited 2006-08-26 19:39:37]

User currently offlineT7ils13latjfk From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 84 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11836 times:

Quoting Semsem (Reply 11):
Also on LY you get an additional 1" in legroom; 32" compared to 31" on the CO 777.

Yeah, thats also true, but while I do love LY, me being a 6 footer really wasn't such a big deal sitting in CO's 31'' configuration as a pose to (the slightly more comfortable) LY's 32'' pitch.
I meant to write about that. Thanks for bringing it up.



"You Know Dam Right!! & - Winds are 060 at 8, 4 Left, cleared to go."
User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 11536 times:

I have to say that I am very impressed by that "one little shrimp" on the greens. Quite an improvement.

User currently offlineT7ILS13LatJFK From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 84 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 10763 times:

Quoting T7ils13latjfk (Reply 12):
as a pose to

Wow, how did I not realize this gramatical error.
I guess it should be "as opposed to" instead of "as a pose to". Funny, huh? haha

Quoting Semsem (Reply 13):
I have to say that I am very impressed by that "one little shrimp" on the greens. Quite an improvement.

Yes, it actually didn't taste half bad to be honest. I can't compare however, because it was my first time flying CO. Certainly a nice touch though.



"You Know Dam Right!! & - Winds are 060 at 8, 4 Left, cleared to go."
User currently offline4xRuv From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10511 times:

Correct me if i'm wrong, but is that a shrimp on the salad? I thought CO doesn't serve pork or seashells on their TLV flight..

User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10227 times:

i enjoyed your report. never mind about the blury pics. but next time you fly to
TLv from the New York area, fly Delta.

regards: DALelite



They loved to fly and it showed..
User currently offlineT7ILS13LatJFK From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 84 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10182 times:

Quoting 4xRuv (Reply 15):
Correct me if i'm wrong, but is that a shrimp on the salad? I thought CO doesn't serve pork or seashells on their TLV flight..

Yes, it certainly was a piece of shrimp. I normally wouldn't eat shrimp or fish of the like, however I tasted it to see if it tasted horrible or not. Turned out tasting alright actually. haha
I thought that was weird when I saw it as well. I did not order a Kosher meal, however aside from the shrimp there were no other pork or shellfish type foods/meals on either of my two flights.

Quoting DALelite (Reply 16):
i enjoyed your report. never mind about the blury pics. but next time you fly to
TLv from the New York area, fly Delta.

First of all thank you.
Well I would consider it...IF they flew from the NYC area. Since they stopped flying out of JFK back in 2001 (?), I wont even bother flying down to ATL to connect to their TLV flight. Firstly, I don't think it could get much better than CO (that's my personal opinion) for an American carrier. Secondly, I can always fly LY nonstop as well, and thirdly, if they flew nonstop from the NYC area, I would conisder them.
I think very highly of CO and would recommend them to anyone, especially on this route.



"You Know Dam Right!! & - Winds are 060 at 8, 4 Left, cleared to go."
User currently offlineTzadik From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10112 times:

good report... i use COA for all my TLV flights... great service!!! perhaps you can get that approach video up again... it doesn't appear to be working. toda!

User currently offlineT7ILS13LatJFK From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 84 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10107 times:

Quoting Tzadik (Reply 18):
good report... i use COA for all my TLV flights... great service!!! perhaps you can get that approach video up again... it doesn't appear to be working. toda!

Thanks, and I will try to get the non working links to work. I've actually been trying and just cant get them to work. I will keep trying. En ba'ayah.
And yes, CO is fantastic.

-MIKE@JFK



"You Know Dam Right!! & - Winds are 060 at 8, 4 Left, cleared to go."
User currently offlineT7ILS13LatJFK From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 84 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 10096 times:

Alright, I have come to conclusion that it's just not possible for me to put the links for the take off and landing.

So, what you must do is the following:
Click on the link for the taxi at EWR (towards the top of this report).
Then, on the top right of that page you should see a button that says next and previous (surrounding "4 of 19"). Clip "1 of 19" is the landing in TLV. Clip "3 of 19" is the takeoff from EWR. That seems to be the only way. Sorry about this.

-MIKE@JFK



"You Know Dam Right!! & - Winds are 060 at 8, 4 Left, cleared to go."
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