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User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9298 times:

LHR - BKK- HKT - URT - BKK- CNX - BKK - LHR


This was a 5 week trip to Thailand, Just for a holiday. Although takig the train to these places would have been
cheaper, flying was more fun!

I've forgotten some of the details, flight times and numbers and things (I have most of the tickets somewhere,
but I thought the pics would make up for it.)

LHR - BKK

Airline: Thai International
Flight: TG???
Departure: 12:30 27/06/06
Arrival: approx 6:30 28/06/06
Duration: 10:45
Aircraft: 744
Cost: £410/$820 (RTN)


LHR is about 25 mins from my home, but traffic was slow as usual because of the permanent lane widening roadworks (by the time they finish,they decide they need to build another lane, and start all over again!). We arrived at around 9.30 at T3, which left plently of time to get through security. We needed it! Check in was quick, but the security que took around 30mins. It wasn't especially heavy security, just that they had a lot of people and few machines. Inside the departure area, T3 was packed, there weren't many places to stand let alone sit! I have only been twice before, and remember it as much smaller, but also much less busy. The central area is badly designed the open plan shops very confusing, like a hall of mirrors, you could imagine someone getting lost in there for years, unable to find the way out. There was little room to stand, let alone sit. I went outside to the new A380 gates to see if there were any windows (not really) and the corridors were totally empty, except for a few passengers running for an Emirates flight just about to leave. Our flight didn't appear on the board until about 20mins before deperature, and the gate, was of course, the furthest away. I think it was gate 43 or 45, anyway it was the furthest possible gate away from T3, which is miles to walk. Actually it was probably about half a mile, but it felt like a long way. After going into the waiting area, we had about 15mins before we started to board. The flight was totally full, and we didn't get the best seats - in the middle so I couldn't take any photos or see much. Taxing was quickbut there was a huge que for the runway, I could see an A320 and others waiting onthe parallel taxi way. The wait was around 25mins, I wouldn't have minded if I had had a window though! I hadn't been on a widebody plane for years, and never on any 747, so I didn't know what take off would be like. Considering how much fuel it must have been carrying, it accelerated pretty quickly, and climbed fast too. The information screen keep dissppearing (more in a minute on that) so wasn't very helpful. The 747 was impressively queit, but that might just because i'm used to 737's. I was really dissapointed to see that we didn't get personal Tv's. I expected that Thai would have installed them on a busy route like this, even on an old aircraft. I guess they don't have many new planes (except the A340's but they are on the USA routes I think only). That was bad enough, but then they decided to show the worst possible films, which i believe were Saint ralph (or something like that), a weird film about a dog in the artic (but it was hard to tell as it appartenly was german only), and Harry potter, which wasn't really that interesting. I know airlines hav to show family films, but could they really not afford to show something recent?
The food was nice, and the seats ok (but nothing special) but the flight seemed to go on forever with little entertainment (I read all my magazines and books in the first 4 hours). It got dark about half way, and sunrise as we approached BKK. As we landed, it was really misty, but by the time we got off the plane the mist was all gone! (you can see that in the picture below).
Immigration took about half an hour, which was about average I suppose, and we got the bus to the domestic terminal. We weren't sure where we were going, and intended to go to Samui, but Bangkok airways wanted a cazy 5000Baht for a one way flight. So instead we went to the Nok air desk and got a flight to Phuket for 1750B!!!




BKK - HKT

Airline: Nok air
Flight:
Departure: 10:00 28/06/06
Arrival: approx 11.20 28/06/06
Duration: 1:20
Aircraft: 734
Cost: 1750 baht (one way)

Getting the shuttle bus to the domestic terminal was easy enough, and we went through from the busy terminal to the small domestic departure area. After x-ray, every airline has it's own ticket checking desk, which was very confusing, especilly as they are sort of staggered. Just past that is a model of the new airport, which although very impressive, doesn't look a lot bigger than the existing one. The picture below is what we thought was our aircraft, actually they chnaged it at the last minute - that plane was gonig to CNX, but it was an identical 734. I hadn't been on a 734 for a long time, very few seem to be flying in europe now. The plane looked well used, but for the cost of the flight, I wasn't bothered. The flight was quick, and the scenery descending into HKT was spectacular (see photos).

We spent a week or so here, and went to Phi-Phi and Krabi. I wanted to fly KBV-USM so I could get to 1) go to samui airport which looked....interesting and 2) Go on an ATR 72, but they don't yet fly that route. Admittedly, it's a bit pointless, as it's only 80 miles or so by coach to surat thani, although flying is more convient because you don't have to get a boat obviously.








Part two in a few minutes testing ot make sure all the pics work!

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User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9245 times:

URT - BKK

Airline: Air asia
Flight:
Departure: 11.30
Arrival: approx 12.45
Duration: 1:10 Quoted, 1:15 actual
Aircraft: 733
Cost: 1600 baht (one way)

After staying on the Islands for a few weeks, going scuba diving and just going to the beach, we wanted to fly to Chaing Mai. This is difficult, because most flights go via BKK. The obvious choice was USM, but Bangkok airways again were just too expensive at 3300 Baht for USM - BKK. Strangley, they fly CNX - USM direct, but the other way, it's USM-BKK-CNX only. The flight for USM-BKK was 3300, doubled if gonig to CNX. So instead we went back to the mainland by boat to URT instead, where we had booked an Air Asia flight URT-BKK and the same day a Nok Air Flightfrom BKK-CNX. URT is miles away from the main city, and few tourists seem to go there. It's a nice enough airport though, very queit, quite big, or it seems it but the departure area isn't huge. As our flight was the first of the day. All this airport serves basically is shuttle flights to BKK. There were 5 flights to BKK that day. Interestingly, the Thai price for the same flight was 11,500 Baht!!! The plane was ok, an old 733, although the dark leather interior looks odd, kinda black and blood coloured mix. Air Asia make this a selling point. This is a no frills flight of course, but depsite the older planes, Nok air and Air Asia seemed just more efficeint and had more friendly staff than FR. Nok Air were excellent on all 3 flights, definatly recommended, I mean you get what you pay for, but they managed to always get us there on time. The flight was pretty uneventful, accept for a sudden loud wooshing noise from the rear bulkhead while cruising. I don't know what caused it, it wasn't the toilets, but it was loud. Flying back into BKK, we had roughly a two hour wait until our Nok air flight to CNX.



BKK - CNX - BKK

Airline: Nok Air
Flight:
Departure:
Arrival: approx
Duration: 1:10 Quoted, 50 actual
Aircraft: 734
Cost: 3300 Baht (RTN)

Another flight, we were tired by this time, but it was amazingly quick given the distance. The time they give is a bit pessemistic, we were only in the air for about 50mins.I didn't have the window seat for landing, but it was getting dark anyway. For the RTN flight I made sure I got some more photos. Chaing Mai preteneds to be a big international airport, and I did see a Thai 747 taking off just after we landed, but really it is mainly domestic flights. A few Thai 767 and A330s were around, and A nok air ATR 72 going to Chaing Rai ( I think) on our return flight. We only spent a few days here, but it is well worth it. The train takes 15 hours,so i think the flight is much better value. The airport (unlike URT) is close to the city so it's chap to get there. The only thing about this flight was that on the rtn to BKK, we had to hold for around 20mins.
Still when the plane landed got a godo view of the golf course. The people who play there must be deaf by now, it is really only about 30m away from 747's taking, and little golf carts driving by the runway (reminds me of Vice city lol).

OUT BKK-CNX



RETURN CNX-BKK



[Edited 2006-08-31 18:02:44]

User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9154 times:

PART 3!

Note to mods: I posted 3 differnent threads because i' having problems with my internet connection. Feel free to mrge them, I know it's technically against the forum rules, but I hope this one time you'll not mind too much.

BKK Domestic terminal. These are actually from the URT-BKK trip but i can't seem to edit my post above at the moment.




BKK - LHR

Airline: Thai International
Flight: TG911
Departure: 12:30
Arrival: approx 18:25
Duration: 11:35
Aircraft: 744
Cost: N/A

After a few days in bangkok, we got a mnibus to the airport for 80 baht, but the driver was able absoulutly crazy, he nearly crashed twice. Oncoming traffic held no fear for him, but it did for everybody else.
Happy to be at the internatino terminal alive, we rushed to the checkin to get the best seats home - I was determined to, the girl at the counter smiled when I handed her a printout of the seating plan of the 747 with acceptable seats circled. She said the flight wasn't full anyway, but that could have meant anything. We got the seats where the plane narrows at the back (2-4-2). After payig the rediculous deperature tax, we spent a hour queing to get our exit stamps. We are LEAVING the counry! That only left 45mins to get to the gate. I tried to get some duty free fo somebody, but improbably, BKK has neither ATM's and nowhere accepts Mastercard (but they will accept Visa) The aircraft looked the same one as on the way out, i'm wan't sure though. I was thought when they started pushing back they had forgotten half the passengers, the plane was empty! Only 150 people on board, and first and business were full. Most economy were seated at the front (I guess they fill the front first unless you ask like we did), and although a few others did joni us after take off, it was empty, we had rows to ourselves. Each of us had 3 seats and some people had taken the middle 4 seats and turned them into beds. I wasn't tired, but watched the films, which were fractionally better (animated thing about a turtle and a bank heist thing). Take off was smooth, even though it was pouring with rain (you can see the spray from the engines on the runway in the photo). Having so much space was great, so even though the flight was just as boring, it was a lot more comfortable. I had more room than first class. Food was great too, and free beer (beer is expensive in Thailand, cause they tax it even more than Tony Blair does, so it was a nice change!). Not long into the flight the F/A's inssisted that every blind was down, for the films, which some people wern't happy about. t was a bit weird because it was a day time flight, but the enforced nighttime for 5 hours made everyone a bit more jet lagged when the blinds were opened at the end and it was suddenly sunny.

Descending into Lndon, it was cloudy, but a sudden break in the clouds gave some great views on London.



london



User currently offlineThai747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 1999, 814 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9033 times:

Great report - hope you had a good vacation in Thailand and didn't catch too much of the monsoon while we were enjoying the summer sun here in the UK!

Cheers


User currently offlineLH459 From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8828 times:

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 1):
Interestingly, the Thai price for the same flight was 11,500 Baht!!!

That's very odd--the published fare for that sector is THB2640. Maybe somebody was putting you on?



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User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8781 times:

I got it from their website.

Interesting Nok air lists the Thai flights side by side and they are quite a bit more expensive - I can't Imagine anyone buying them, but I suppose it's a brand/image thing. For little more than an hours flight, it doesn't seem worthwhile.

The Thai flights listed alongside the Nok air flights on the nok air website were around 2600, still it's a lot more than Nok.

The 11,500 I got from the Thai website. Thai probably aim their domestic flights at business travellers, but no tourist will pay that. Bangkok airways are gonig to price themselves out of the market too - there rates are too high. If URT wasn't such a hassle to get to from Samui, they wouldn't be able to.

A direct ferry/bus to URT and better flight times would help. As it was we had to go from Ko phangen to another port, get a bus to Surat thani, stay a night, then get a taxi the 27km north from Surat to the airport. We couldn't get a ferry early enough to make the flight. The saving was (just) about worth it. Would have like to have gone on a 717, but the 737 is probably a better aircraft.


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8535 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7874 times:
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Interesting report, thamks

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 1):
A few Thai 767

-Thai don't fly 767's.

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 5):
Would have like to have gone on a 717, but the 737 is probably a better aircraft.

-Perhaps, but the 717 is pretty rare, perhaps worth extra to fly on.

Rgds

Mark



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User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7710 times:

Yeah I didn't have much money though. USM looks like an interesting airport too.


Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
-Thai don't fly 767's.

Really? Guess it must have been an A300 or A310 then (your going to tell me now they don't fly those either aren't you ). I didn't have the best view from CNX departure lounge, the aircraft was only partly visable.

[Edited 2006-09-11 16:23:46]

[Edited 2006-09-11 16:24:25]

User currently offline4xRuv From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7640 times:

good thing you took those domestic flights. An hour of flight can save you 12 hours on the bus...

User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7277 times:

at least!!! some places are more like 15.

User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7236 times:

Well well well...

Quoting Sv2008 (Thread starter):
Just past that is a model of the new airport, which although very impressive, doesn't look a lot bigger than the existing one.

Yeah, it's only 6 times bigger.  Yeah sure

Quoting Sv2008 (Thread starter):
After x-ray, every airline has it's own ticket checking desk, which was very confusing

How can that be confusing with all of them having big signs?

Quoting Sv2008 (Thread starter):
and intended to go to Samui, but Bangkok airways wanted a cazy 5000Baht

Impossible, full Y is less.

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 1):
Thai price for the same flight was 11,500 Baht!!!

Again, impossible.

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 1):
A few Thai 767

TG doesn't fly 767s as stated above. A300B4-600 I guess.

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 2):
After payig the rediculous deperature tax,

Cheaper than SIN or HKG. I agree though it should be included in the tkt price.

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 2):
BKK has neither ATM's and nowhere accepts Mastercard

Well, every single terminal accepting VI takes MC as well, be it BangkokBank, SCB, BAY, KBank, TMB, whatever. Problem with your card I'm afraid. Not all SCB terminals take AMEX though.

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 2):
. I had more room than first class.

 Yeah sure

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 2):
(beer is expensive in Thailand, cause they tax it even more than Tony Blair does

Are you on drugs or what? Large bottle of Chang costs 31 Baht as of last night, and that's two small bottles.

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 5):
The Thai flights listed alongside the Nok air flights on the nok air website were around 2600, still it's a lot more than Nok.

Well worth it for the lounge and miles on TG metal if the difference is just less than 1K.



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User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7150 times:

Quote:
How can that be confusing with all of them having big signs?

The signs are on the front of the desk, and the amount of people going through after x-ray makes it slightly confusing if you've never had this before.

Quote:

Yeah, it's only 6 times bigger.

I guess I was surprised it only had two runways so it looked smaller somehow.

Whats going to happen to the old airport now?

Quote:
Again, impossible.

Possibly an error on the website. But it's what I was quoted.

Quote:

I agree though it should be included in the tkt price.

Yeah!!!! My ticket was £407 which is about 28,500 Baht. Airport tax included. The departure tax is just a way to rip off tourists.

Quote:


I did have more room than first class (by sitting sideways across 3 seats). Not quite the same but nice.

Quote:

Well worth it for the lounge and miles on TG metal if the difference is just less than 1K.

I wasn't prepared to pay an extra 1K for such a short flight. Much as I want to fly on different airlines I had a limited amount of money. Same with Bangkok airways, which DID try and charge that much for a flight (was last minute stand by though).


User currently offlineFXMD11 From Thailand, joined Aug 2004, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6928 times:

Quoting Sv2008 (Thread starter):
Although takig the train to these places would have been cheaper, flying was more fun!

Even if the train would have been cheaper. There would be no Train from London to Bangkok. And for Phuket - no there is no train either, unless
you want to get off in Thungsong or Ranong.

Quoting Sv2008 (Thread starter):
BKK has neither ATM's and nowhere accepts Mastercard

Hmmm....I live in Bangkok since 11 years and never had problem.Actually I do think we have to many ATM's. I have several Mastercards and they all work on these machines.

Quoting Sv2008 (Thread starter):
Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 2):
(beer is expensive in Thailand, cause they tax it even more than Tony Blair does.

Yes, very expensive. As LH747 said it was 31THB which is around 0.80 US$ per big bottle (3/4 Ltr).Trust you dont even a get water for this back in the UK.


User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6845 times:

It's great to see this thread is so popular as it was only my second trip report!

Quote:

Even if the train would have been cheaper. There would be no Train from London to Bangkok. And for Phuket - no there is no train either, unless
you want to get off in Thungsong or Ranong.

Clearly I wasn't going to get the train from London! I meant from Bangkok - Surat Thani and Bangkok to Chaing Mai.

Actually many tourists we spoke to got the bus, not the train. I don't like long bus journeys. We did have to get a bus from Krabi to Surat Thani becasue Bangkok Airways haven't started their Krabi-Samui service yet.

Quote:

Hmmm....I live in Bangkok since 11 years and never had problem.Actually I do think we have to many ATM's. I have several Mastercards and they all work on these machines.

I wrote that there were no ATM inside BKK....in the city it wasn't a problem, but I was airside before I realised.


User currently offlineThai747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 1999, 814 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6788 times:

Quoting Sv2008 (Reply 11):
My ticket was £407 which is about 28,500 Baht. Airport tax included. The departure tax is just a way to rip off tourists.

Er, no. The airport tax paid at the time of ticket purchase only include all pre-payable taxes, PSC, insurance and fuel surcharge. Net prices to BKK (until 2007) do not include Thailand airport tax like most other destinations, which is payable on departure. There's no "double charging" going on there, and not "a way to rip off tourists" either, as this applies to both tourists and locals. Hassle? yes. Rip off? no.


User currently offline4xRuv From Israel, joined Dec 2003, 388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6759 times:

Isn't it called "the king's tax"?

User currently offlineSv2008 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6434 times:

I think it is, although not 100% sure.

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