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SQ First Class To Jakarta + 7P/GA Domestics  
User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 18296 times:

I decided it was time for another trip to Indonesia after just a few MNL trips for the summer. First, I considered doing it via KUL and picking up the daily KLM 747 in World Business Class from there, but opted for SQ First Class after all. Domestic flights to Surabaya on 7P/GA also included.

31 August 2006
Bangkok Don Muang (BKK/VTBD) – Singapore Changi (SIN/WSSS)
Singapore Airlines SQ/SIA 67
Boeing 777-312
9V-SYL
1600 – 1925 – On Time
First Class, Seat 2A


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I arrived at Don Muang, for my third last time perhaps, at around 1230 as I wanted to enjoy the excellent Thai Royal First Class lounges for a while. Check-in was smooth with a friendly TG agent who confirmed my seat 2A, and offered to block 2B for me. It sounded weird as there’s an aisle between 2A/B on the B747, but who am I to resist blocked seat near me anyway. With boarding passes in one of those nice SQ F ticket jackets, I headed to departure immigration. Not too bad of a wait, but please, rip off those horrible hand written pieces of papers “1. Passport, 2. Departure Card, 3. Boarding pass. NO need departure tax.” The last one, typical Thai English, to me means I don’t need to pay the tax.

I first went to the TG F lounge between 20 and 30 gates. A refreshing shower with L’Occitane toiletries and a nice shower kit with the said products to take home with you – TG F lounges must offer one of the best lounge shower experiences out there. I then ordered some sort of steak with vegetables and a glass of champagne; non-vintage Veuve Clicquot unfortunately. Hopefully they will introduce actual bars with some grande cuvee in the F lounges in Suvarnabhumi. A Häagen-Dazs later I decided to move to the next lounge.

SilverKris F lounge was the next stop – my visit lasted for a minute and a glass of water. Premium drinks are gone, so is the better ice cream, and it was pretty much standing room only. I then went to the TG F lounge near pier 5, excellent and I was alone there just as in the first TG lounge. Basic Moet & Chandon was the champagne here.

Booked the SQ 67 because of the fact it’s usually a 747 with the suites, alas that wouldn’t be the case this time unfortunately. A triple seven taxied in at around 3pm, so my suites were gone and the blocking of 2B suddenly made sense. A glass of Courvoisier XO assured me it wasn’t the end of the world although I I’d be wasting the $130 that the Marriott cost me as well as other associated costs related to a quick Singapore trip since I could just have taken a 777 the next morning as well.

Boarding was on time at 3.30pm, and I was quickly escorted to my seat, offered the menu and wine list, newspapers, magazines, a hot towel and pre-departure drink as usual. Krug was my choice and it was of course topped up a few times as well. 9V-SYL has the newer F seats and AVOD.

We were pushed back on time, and took off from 21R without delay. Service started with hot nuts and drinks – so more Krug for me. Meanwhile, clear views of Pattaya and Jomtien from my side. Tables were then set up, and the meal served. Here’s the very disappointing menu:

Light Meal from Bangkok to Singapore

Appetizers

Som tum koong
Thai green papaya salad with tiger prawns

Main Courses

Braised short rib of beef with root
vegetables and celeriac-pear puree

Fried red snapper in garlic tomato
sauce served with selected
vegetables and steamed rice

Grilled chicken breast served with
assorted mushroom sauce, seasonal
vegetables and olive oil flavored
mashed potato

Fresh Fruit

A selection of fresh fruit

From The Bakery

Oven fresh rolls
with a choice of extra virgin olive oil
or butter

Garlic bread

Hot Beverages

Freshly brewed coffee
Espresso or cappuccino
Selection of tea

Champagne

Krug Grande Cuvee (gone from the RGNL 08/06 and RGNL 09/06 wine lists!)
Dom Perignon Vintage 1998

I finished the rather small prawns and the rest of the appetizer went back more or less untouched. Way too spicy for me. Som tum (no prawns) costs $1 from the room service in my apartment building – not a suitable appetizer in F where it should be something like lobster or salmon. The prawns and garlic bread were of course nice though.

Nothing I particularly cared for in the main course selection either. Went with the chicken which was rather tasteless. I asked for some strawberries and grapes for dessert – they had none. Some rambutans, bananas and apples. Asked for a Raffles class dessert then – same fruit. This meal would have been very disappointing for any business class, let alone First. And probably costs SQ along the lines of $5-10 maximum from their BKK caterer.

Service was top notch of course – my glass of Krug or red wine was never empty, and the crew was as pleasant as it gets. Such a shame they take this sort of catering from BKK, and of course Book the Cook isn’t available from BKK either. The regional wine list no longer lists Krug – only DP is listed, which suggests to me they might be planning on dropping Krug from the regionals. Would be a such a shame.

Landing at Changi was on time, and I took a taxi to the Marriott Singapore. Asked for a pool terrace room and got one – very nice with the new Marriott bed, a free standing bathtub, your own terrace, rain shower, Bvlgari toiletries etc. Friday morning I picked up a pair of Finnair tickets to Europe – unfortunately in the class I really would rather not fly on longhauls… But Q class for SGD 916++ is a bargain, and significantly cheaper than what AY charges from BKK.

01 September 2006
Singapore Changi (SIN/WSSS) – Jakarta Soekarno Hatta (CGK/WIII)
Singapore Airlines SQ/SIA 158
Boeing 777-212ER
9V-SQL
1250-1325 – On Time
First Class, Seat 2A


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I took a taxi to Changi from Liat Towers at around 10.30am, and was sipping Dom in the SilverKris lounge about half an hour later. Nothing too inspiring in the breakfast buffet, so I took some shrimp and pasta salad and ice cream instead, and of course more of that French liquid to flush it down. The SKL is a great lounge, but TG/CX/MH have nicer facilities in my opinion. Though I’m sure T3 will have a superb lounge for SQ when it opens.

Gate this afternoon was F41 – not exactly next to the lounge. The seatmap showed a very light load during online check-in, but the cabin filled up to 10/12 seats at the end. The usual pre-departure ritual on SQ followed, although this sector features just a flimsy paper sheet as menu – sufficient I guess but how much more would it really cost to stick it into the usual leather thing? Later, the LSS confirmed they have my BTC meal on board as usual.

A couple of glasses of Krug later we were ready for takeoff – the triple seven takeoff is pretty impressive for such a 1h25min sector. After the seatbelt sign went off, more drinks of course, and tables were set up. Instead of individual table setup, you just get a tablecloth, and then the rest on a tray. Appetizers are long gone from SIN-CGK, understandable as it’s usually just 1h20min or so flying time. Here’s the menu:

Lunch from Singapore to Jakarta

Main Courses


Wok fried beef in black
peppercorn sauce served with
braised beancurd and
vegetables, steamed rice

Nasi Lemak
Malay style coconut rice with spicy
prawns, peanuts, grilled fish cake,
egg omelette and vegetable pickles


Oven roasted chicken breast
served with creamy morel sauce,
mixed vegetables and parmesan
flavoured polenta

Fresh Fruit

A selection of fresh fruit

Dessert

Gratin of fruits

From The Bakery

Oven fresh rolls
with a choice of extra virgin olive oil
or butter

Garlic bread

Hot Beverages

Freshly brewed coffee
Selection of tea

Champagne (No wine list given)

Krug Grande Cuvee
Dom Perignon Vintage 1998

I had ordered the lobster thermidor, and it was excellent - definitely my favorite dish on SQ or any other airline for that matter. Had some mango and grapes as well as the dessert which were all fresh and excellent. Krug was topped up numerous times although the crew were very busy with the almost full F cabin.

Landing was a few minutes early, and we quickly taxied to gate D1. The crew wished me a nice stay in Indonesia, and I was off to the visa on arrival and immigration lines. IIRC, the whole ordeal took over an hour, thanks to a Saudia jumbo that had just arrived. These SV pax were hauling all you can imagine as hand luggage – somebody should tell them Indonesia isn’t in the middle of the desert – water is actually readily available so you don’t need to haul a gallon with you. It looked way too funny.

I took an Express taxi to the JW Marriott and sent an SMS to fellow A.netter HB-IWC to inform him I had finally cleared the arrival mess. At Rp 58,000, the Express taxi is a much better deal than the overpriced Silver Bird, thanks to HB-IWC for the tip.

JW Marriott Jakarta

The usual executive level room on the top floor of the hotel – smoking room they claimed although I couldn’t even find an ashtray and there was thankfully no smell. The Platinum Elite benefits guarantee is funny as it guarantees bed/smoking preferences only on the booked room type. Yet, upgrade benefit is another privilege, and if they don’t give lounge access it costs them $100. So basically if you stick a Plat to the exec floor as you’re supposed to do, the room preference guarantee is no longer valid. I don’t have a problem with this as I’ve never had a smelly room at any Asian Marriott even if they put me in a so-called smoking room.

I met HB-IWC at the Marriott, and he handed me the domestic tickets he had booked – a big thank you for that. We definitely enjoyed more than enough food from the buffet at the Executive Lounge, and I definitely enjoyed the Coronas as well. After calling it a night when the lounge food/drink service finished, I still headed out for a few drinks…

02 September 2006
Jakarta Soekarno Hatta (CGK/WIII) – Surabaya Juanda (SUB/WRSJ)
Batavia Air 7P/BTV 701
Boeing 737-3B7
PK-YTX
1450-1605 – Delayed (1509-1620)
Economy Class, Seat 12A (Exit Row)


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I arrived at Soekarno Hatta 1B about two hours before departure, guessed that the “xxxxx bagasi” counter with no line meant check-in for those with no checked luggage, and successfully secured the exit row for the flight to Surabaya. My only problem with flying with these exotic Indonesian airlines is that there’s nothing to do at T1 unless you can get to a lounge, and the air conditioning isn’t working too well.

The flight information displays had whatever on them as usual – B3 had the same BPN flight listed twice and not a word about my flight, yet the agent assured me I was in the right place. An announcement was made in Bahasa at 2.40pm – the only part I understood was “Surabaya Kupang” – so I figured that was the boarding announcement for my flight. Sure enough it was, and an agent led us to a far away gate where PK-YTX was waiting. Boarding was via a jetway, and a nice looking F/A welcomed me onboard.

The exit row had absolutely massive legroom, perhaps close to 60”. My roller bag fit length wise into the overhead bin, and the interior looked very clean and tidy with new looking Batavia seat covers. Nice premium class style headrest covers were in place unlike on most airlines that have flimsy paper ones or none at all. The US Airways bulkhead was still there to tell me 7P had obviously acquired the 737 from US Air. A guy in the aisle seat said hi and that I look familiar – it was indeed someone I had talked to on my JT flight to SUB five months ago! Quite a coincidence I’d say.

Boarding was soon completed, safety demo given with life vests with huge “US Air” logos, and pushback followed just 19 minutes late for which the crew apologized. A F/A came to brief me about the exit door operation – that would never happen on Lion and the likes. A very high speed taxi followed by the GMF hangar where I spotted Orient Thai’s HS-UTJ and UTL, probably undergoing some heavy maintenance. UTL was bought from KE recently, now sitting engineless there…can’t imagine they’d have bought it for spares so I assume it’s some engine maintenance.

A powerful takeoff followed and I was PK-YTX was on its way to Surabaya Juanda Airport. I didn’t expect any meal service, but actually snackboxes were handed out with some sort of a roll with a sweet filling as well a standard water cup typical of any Indonesian low cost airlines. The inflight shopping cart then rolled down the aisle. I tried to get some sleep, but it was impossible due to the misbehaved kid banging my seatback continuously. The parents didn’t care despite a few nasty stares I gave them. By the time we reached SUB, I was actually thinking whether I should “accidentally” drop my bag from the overhead bin…

Soon we were on descent to Surabaya, and a rather rough landing and a quick taxi to the old terminal followed. The new one has looked ready for quite a while – Indonesians and Filipinos seem to be masters delaying their new airports, not to forget the Thais. My last ride to SUB was sitting titles painted off on a taxiway – Lion’s PK-LMW that is. It overran the runway on its return from DPS after my flight in March. A short bus ride to the terminal and I took a prepaid taxi to the hotel.

Sheraton Surabaya Hotel and Towers

After a very long wait at the front desk, I got my king non-smoking room as booked. I used SPG points for this hotel as it’s a category one property – quite a rarity with SPG nowadays. The lobby was nice, and the Sheraton is directly connected to the big mall next door. The room was a notch below the JW Marriott Surabaya but pretty nice nonetheless. Separate shower and bathtub, but the bed definitely wasn’t the new Sheraton Sweet Sleeper – instead it even had that ancient brown blanket instead of a duvet. Room service was pretty cheap, $10 for a pizza and Caesar salad. Excellent deal for 2000 points.

03 September 2006
Surabaya Juanda (SUB/WRSJ) – Jakarta Soekarno Hatta (CGK/WIII)
Garuda Indonesia GA/GIA 311
Boeing 737-4M0
PK-GZL
1000-1115 – Delayed (1020-1140)
Executive Class, Seat 2F


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The drive to Juanda airport was quick in the morning, and I arrived at around 0840. Checked in right away at the Garuda Executive Class counter which had no line. I saw the flight had been re-scheduled to depart at 1020, no big deal but the agent could have informed me. I really don’t like this “re-scheduled” thing, which seems to happen especially with Philippine Airlines domestic flights as well. How about just putting “delayed” on the screen?

I then went to the Garuda Executive Lounge, and had some fried rice and chicken for breakfast. The lounge has decent food selection, soft drinks and a Bir Bintang tap, fairly nice for a domestic lounge. I headed through security at around 0940, and boarding started ten minutes later as indicated. A bus took us to the aircraft as usual, meanwhile I spotted all the usual suspects – Wings MD82, Lion MD-90-30, Sriwijaya, Batavia and Adam 737-200s and Malaysian 737-400. The Adam bird was the infamous PK-KKN – you’ll find some rather comical but sad pics in the Adam thread in the civil aviation forum.

Newspapers, hot towels and welcome drinks were offered, I settled for an apple juice. Since the load was very light in Executive, I decided to move to 2F from my bulkhead seat to be able to stretch my legs. No big deal really for such a short flight but why not. We then taxied past the Merpati Fokker graveyard, and took off without delay for the 1h04min flight to Soekarno Hatta.

A hot snack was offered on this flight – Indonesian style noodles or chicken. Tables were set up, and the snack arrived shortly afterwards. I was addressed by name, and the F/A did an excellent job topping up drinks as well. This was clearly the best GA service I have had on my rather limited number of flights – nobody has addressed me by name before for example. The captain also gave the usual speech with lots of info – this never seems to happen on the Indonesian low cost airlines.

Soon, descent for Soekarno Hatta started, and we made a very hard landing some 25 minutes behind schedule and taxied to the Garuda domestic gates. Apart from the usual GA 737s, I spotted a Volga Dnepr Antonov and a Jatayu/AA hybrid 727 in a very bad condition. I thanked the crew and headed to SQ check-in for my return to Bangkok.

03 September 2006
Jakarta Soekarno Hatta (CGK/WIII) – Singapore Changi (SIN/WSSS)
Singapore Airlines SQ/SIA 159
Boeing 777-212ER
9V-SQI
1425 – 1700 – On Time
First Class, Seat 2F


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The First Class counter was occupied, so I went to the Raffles counter next to it and was checked in without delay. However, the friendly JAS agent had trouble with her boarding pass printer, and had to get my F stock passes from somewhere. She apologized for the delay, stuck an orange sticker meaning Star Gold on my boarding passes and took my visa details for Bangkok. I’ve never seen this done elsewhere, and usually you can just talk your way on out of any trouble in SIN and the likes if you don’t have a Thai visa. I wouldn’t suggest that with SQ in Jakarta. She also forgot to take the flight coupons at first – not often that you see paper tickets for SQ anymore I suppose.

Departure immigration was quick, and I made my way to the JAS Esplanade lounge which was rather nice. Pretty much like the renovated Garuda international lounge, and much better than the Pura Indah lounge that Lufthansa uses. I got some Baileys on the rocks from the bar, and some food from the buffets rather extensive selection.

Boarding started around 2pm, and the load seemed very light in all cabins. Indeed, the doors were closed with only me and two others in First. The Krug, menu, hot towel and newspaper arrived promptly, and my glass was topped up a few times. Pushback was around three minutes late, for which the crew apologized. On our way to the runway, I spotted a CX A340-300, Air Asia B737-300 and a Qatar A300-600. While holding short of the runway, a Gulf Traveller B767-300 landed. It was our turn next, and the lightly loaded 777 thundered down the runway – felt more powerful than an MD-11 on BKK-SIN.

Service started as soon as the seatbelt sign went off – needless to say it was excellent with the light load. I was asked whether I’d like to eat immediately or wait a few minutes - I opted for more Krug and some mixed nuts while they served the two other passengers first. Table setup was similar to Singapore-Jakarta, and here’s the menu:

Light Meal from Jakarta to Singapore

Main Courses


“Mughalai” style mutton curry
with vegetables “Jalfereizi”,
spiced lentils and pilaf with
dried fruits

Mee goreng dan sate lilit
Indonesian style fried noodles with
minced seafood satay


Tournedos of beef with mustard
sauce, ratatouille and roasted
potatoes

Dessert

Apricot frangipane with English
cream

From The Bakery

Oven fresh rolls
with a choice of extra virgin olive oil
or butter

Garlic bread

Hot Beverages

Freshly brewed coffee
Selection of tea

Champagne (No wine list given)

Krug Grande Cuvee
Dom Perignon Vintage 1998

I opted for the beef which was cooked to perfection – perhaps the best I’ve had onboard as far as beef entrees go. The dessert was pretty nice as well, and I ordered a cappuccino which wasn’t a problem although not listed on the menu. Meal service doesn’t get much better than SQ service on SIN-CGK-SIN on 1h20min flights. In the U.S., you’d probably get drink in a plastic cup and a snack mix in F.

All too soon, we were on final approach to Changi, and landed a few minutes ahead of schedule on 20R I believe. We then taxied over the bridge to T2 where SQI parked next to 9V-SYE that had just operated the previous flight from Jakarta. I thanked the crew for their excellent service and headed to the SilverKris F lounge.

There was an arrival security check for this flight – it’s not random at all it seems, whenever I get this screening, it’s BKK/CGK/MNL where I’m coming from. However, the setup is much better than before, a roped off area with at least 6-7 screening machines.

03 September 2006
Singapore Changi (SIN/WSSS) – Bangkok Don Muang (BKK/VTBD)
Singapore Airlines SQ/SIA 996
Boeing 777-212ER
9V-SQD
2035 – 2200 – On Time
First Class, Seat 2A


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The SilverKris Lounge was rather busy this evening with all the evening departures coming up. I browsed the net for a while whilst enjoying some Dom, and decided to try some of the food offerings later. Beef goulash with garlic mashed potatoes was what I got – pretty nice. Rounded off nicely with a Ben & Jerrys ice cream and some more Dom.

Given my luck with gate assignments, it was no surprise that SQ 996 to Narita via Don Muang was departing from E28 – to emphasize its location, I took a few pics before entering the gate. The screening machine beeped as usual – it always happens at Changi whilst it never happens at Don Muang – different sensitivity settings I guess. A very rude SATS agent took my boarding pass – no reply whatsoever to my “hello” or “thank you”. I’m sorry but you have failed miserably if you can’t be bothered to wish a nice flight to a First Class passenger. But it doesn’t surprise me – both SATS and Thai ground agents are generally miserable – there are other jobs in SIN/BKK if they don’t like theirs!

I was warmly greeted at the door as usual, and escorted to my seat, 2A again for this flight. The usual pre-flight routine followed, and the Malaysian LSS informed me that I was the only passenger to Bangkok. That’s definitely the first time – my previous record was two pax on LH’s BKK-MNL in First. Krug was again offered, and I happily took a glass.

Push back was again on time – I don’t actually remember when if ever I’ve had a major delay with SQ. Flight time to Bangkok was 1h52min IIRC. Mixed nuts and Krug was the first course again for me, followed by the full table setup. Here’s the menu:

Light Meal from Singapore to Bangkok

Appetizers


Anti Pasto
Olive oil marinated prawns, parma ham,
sautéed mushroom, roasted capsicums and
mixed fine lettuce


Main Courses

Seared sirloin with red wine butter
and jus, sautéed haricot vert and pont
neuf potatoes

Seared salmon trout fillet served with
white wine sauce, buttered
vegetables and fingerling potato

Chicken satay served with malay
style fried seafood noodle

Fresh Fruit

A selection of fresh fruit

From The Bakery

Oven fresh rolls
with a choice of extra virgin olive oil
or butter

Garlic bread

Hot Beverages

Freshly brewed coffee
Espresso or cappuccino
Selection of tea

Champagne

Krug Grande Cuvee (gone from the RGNL 08/06 and RGNL 09/06 wine lists!)
Dom Perignon Vintage 1998

The appetizer with prawns and Parma ham was excellent, and I had again the lobster thermidor for main course. I’ve tried a few of the others from the BTC F menu, the roast rack of lamb is nice, but I tend to get the lobster usually. The sirloin and salmon on the regular menu looked nice as well – I wonder why they have to offer such disappointing menu from BKK as on SQ 67 when BTC is not available either. On this flight I’d have been perfectly happy even with the regular choices.

Nice fruits were available as well, and I ended up eating pretty much all the strawberries as the F/A insisted I take more. Needless to say it was an excellent meal, and service was nothing short of fantastic. Though I don’t understand why there isn’t fruit and another dessert on the menu, CX definitely has on their BKK-SIN F menu.

The rest of the flight I just caught up with some BKK local news as they had both Bangkok English newspapers on board – some airlines offering just their own and IHT/USA Today should take notice. Meanwhile, we were already starting the descent to Don Muang, for my third last time I suppose. Landing was early, and we taxied to gate 52 for disembarkation. I thanked the crew for their great service, wished them a nice trip to Narita and headed to immigration. Could have done without the marathon from pier 5 though… The lines were long, but thankfully more counters were opened and I got through quickly.

An excellent trip on SQ F again, it definitely remains as the top F product for me. I can’t really find anything else to complain about than the BKK-SIN menu, which is disappointing even for business class. Other than that, fantastic meals and service and of course the SliverKris F lounge. Batavia was a positive surprise and Garuda’s service was excellent.

Hope you enjoyed the report.

Next trips planned:

09SEP BKK-SIN AY 097 J M11
10SEP SIN-BKK AY 098 J M11

15SEP BKK-SIN CX 713 J 744
16SEP SIN-BKK AY 098 J M11

12OCT BKK-SIN AY 097 J M11
12OCT SIN-BKK AY 098 Y M11
13OCT BKK-HEL AY 098 Y M11
17OCT HEL-BKK AY 097 Y M11
18OCT BKK-SIN AY 097 Y M11
18 OCT SIN-BKK AY 098 J M11

22NOV BKK-SIN AY 097 J M11
22NOV SIN-BKK AY 098 Y M11
23NOV BKK-HEL AY 098 Y M11
23NOV HEL-AMS AY 841 Y 320
26NOV AMS-HEL AY 846 Y 320
26NOV HEL-BKK AY 097 Y M11
27NOV BKK-SIN AY 097 Y M11
27NOV SIN-BKK AY 098 J M11

23DEC BKK-HEL AY 098 Y M11
06JAN HEL-CDG AY 879 Y 320
08JAN CDG-HEL AY 880 Y 321
08JAN HEL-BKK AY 095 Y M11

27MAR BKK-SYD BA 009 F 744
28MAR SYD-PPT TN 004 F 343
31MAR PPT-SYD TN 003 F 343
01APR SYD-BKK BA 010 F 744


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User currently offlineAlaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 17896 times:

WOW... great report mate!
looks like you had heaps of fun!
bummer that you didn't get the suits on the outbound flight  Sad

out of all of the lounges that you visited, what one would you say is the best?
~Cheers-
~~Kyle H.



to some people the sky is the limit, to aviation enthusiasts, its home!
User currently offlineSIA fan From Indonesia, joined Aug 2000, 728 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 17894 times:

Nicely written trip report!

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Thread starter):
There was an arrival security check for this flight – it’s not random at all it seems, whenever I get this screening, it’s BKK/CGK/MNL where I’m coming from

I also don't think it's random at all. I think it's targeted at specific destinations. It is always on flights from CGK whenever I get this extra screening, never from anywhere else.

Does anyone know what's the whole point behind this arrival security screening? Why should they be concerned about inbound flights?



SQ*G BD*S
User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 17827 times:

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 1):
out of all of the lounges that you visited, what one would you say is the best?

There isn't really a simple answer to that... Some of the best I've visited:

CX HKG - I like the bar, restaurant,shower facilities and design
SQ SIN - Excellent food and drink, lacking shower facilities
MH KUL - Perhaps my favourite with their restaurant setup, great design, showers, sauna etc.
TG BKK - Excellent overall with the massage etc.

The LH F terminal obviously beats them all, I plan on getting to visit finally next May.

QF Clubs in SIN/BKK are pretty good as far as C class lounges go.

Quoting SIA fan (Reply 2):
Does anyone know what's the whole point behind this arrival security screening? Why should they be concerned about inbound flights?

Somebody said trying to find drugs. Also, you get access to all Changi gate areas, so with ineffective screening at departure airports, you could possibly get some nasty stuff there. But obviously not to aircraft as there's gate screening for all departing pax.



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User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 940 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 17697 times:

Lari - your reports are always a pleasure. Where do you find the time to travel so much?

Are you placing bets on Suvarnabhumi opening or not on the 28th? I saw a raodside billboard just before the Rama 9 bridge today advertising how to get to the new airport and that it would open on the 28th. Maybe they're serious about it?



Keeping the "civil" in civil aviation...
User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 17559 times:

Great report as always. Batavia is a somewhat intermediate airline among the Indonesian LCCs. They have a better reputation as the likes of Adam Air and Lion, but are still lagging behind some others like Sriwijaya, for instance. I guess the B733 made the experience one of the nicer ones. They have a large fleet of B732s and I hear that they are really cramped.

User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 17486 times:

7P can be considered as my official carrier in Indonesia. So far I have flown on 10 legs with them. All are in the PNK-KCH route. KCH is one of their two international destinations. The other is CAN. And out of the 10 legs, 9 were on 732s while a leg was on 734. On the 10th leg, I experienced their male FAs for the first time. I thought all their FAs are women. So far they are satisfying. Although there were a few delays (especially lately), all were caused by weather. PNK was having some of the worst hazy weather I have ever experience. The haze even came inside a shopping mall.

They always put me on row 11 (on the 732s), I don't know why.  Sad It's the emergency door row. And the crew will explain on how to handle the doors before the plane started moving, just like what Lari saw. However I didn't noticed the US Air things that Lari mentioned. I will check it out next time I fly them.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 17443 times:

Quoting Christao17 (Reply 4):
Where do you find the time to travel so much?

Just 4 evenings/week at university definitely helps. Big grin Actually this weekend's SIN trip is a visa run for my wife/son. I read on your blog you just did PEN - are you going to write a report about it?

Quoting Christao17 (Reply 4):
it would open on the 28th. Maybe they're serious about it?

I'm starting to believe it... SQ handed me a very detailed brochure about it (available online too), and now CX also has something on their website, saying the 2350 arrival on Sep 27 will be the first CX service to land there. Also Jetstar is moving on the 15th, FD/OX/DD on 25/26/27 respectively.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 5):
I guess the B733 made the experience one of the nicer ones. They have a large fleet of B732s and I hear that they are really cramped.

Trust me the 733 looked truly horrible pitch wise in the normal rows. But it didn't have this Air Asia style 733 exit arrangement where they just take off the window seat - so the exit row had huge pitch.

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 6):
However I didn't noticed the US Air things

Well it's usually from where the plane came from. I've seen CO and KE demo life vests on Lion for example.

Here's the history of PK-YTX for those interested:

28/11/1984 US Air N353AU
25/10/1988 US Air N374US
27/02/1997 US Airways N374US ret to lessor 03/2006
01/04/2006 Batavia PK-YTX


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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8524 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 17280 times:
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Hi Lari,

Excellent reports as usual, many thanks for taking time to post the report.

Look forward to the future AY reports and their new seats.

In addition, can you advise me on ICN spotting, are you aware of any non-airside spotting areas, I'm hoping to visit next year as a side trip from either Japan or China.

Thanks Lari, look forward to future reading.

Rgds

Mark



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User currently offlineChristao17 From Thailand, joined Apr 2005, 940 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 16761 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 7):
Quoting Christao17 (Reply 4):
Where do you find the time to travel so much?

Just 4 evenings/week at university definitely helps. Actually this weekend's SIN trip is a visa run for my wife/son. I read on your blog you just did PEN - are you going to write a report about it?

Yeah, I've been quite busy and haven't had the opportunity to write it yet. Since there weren't any other a.netters on the flight (I think) no worries about being scooped!



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16191 times:

Thanks for the additional comments!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
Look forward to the future AY reports and their new seats.

I'll post one later tonight.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
In addition, can you advise me on ICN spotting, are you aware of any non-airside spotting areas,

I'm afraid I didn't do any spotting at all in ICN when I was there. So my experience is really limited to the SQ/KE/OZ lounges that had nice views IIRC. You'll definitely find some interesting variety there though - especially from the Russian Far East. JL was also sending DC10/742/762s to ICN when I was there - not sure if they still get 742s at least.

Regards,

Lari



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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 15867 times:

Again what a nice report you've got here Lari.


I can't wait for this report:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Thread starter):
27MAR BKK-SYD BA 009 F 744
28MAR SYD-PPT TN 004 F 343
31MAR PPT-SYD TN 003 F 343
01APR SYD-BKK BA 010 F 744

This is an award flight right?
Did you book this like 330 days before departure?
Is this an AA award? If so how did you get TN on the SYD-PPT leg?

Drew



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 15840 times:

Quoting KL808 (Reply 11):
This is an award flight right?
Did you book this like 330 days before departure?
Is this an AA award? If so how did you get TN on the SYD-PPT leg?

AA All Partner award. So it allows TN unlike the AA oneworld awards. Though, there's no PPT stopover permitted, no LA availability to IPC etc... But I figured this should be nice anyway since I got it all in F.

330 days ahead, only one weekly TN flight SYD-PPT/vv had A class availability. And my return from SYD was the only BA weekend F seat next spring SYD-BKK. This was about 7 months advance, and TN availability was better.

Terribly difficult to arrange any decent AA awards in comparison with Star (LH/UA - using for SQ/TG).

Cheers,

Lari



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User currently offlineFXMD11 From Thailand, joined Aug 2004, 184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 15639 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Thread starter):
12OCT BKK-SIN AY 097 J M11
12OCT SIN-BKK AY 098 Y M11
13OCT BKK-HEL AY 098 Y M11
17OCT HEL-BKK AY 097 Y M11
18OCT BKK-SIN AY 097 Y M11
18 OCT SIN-BKK AY 098 J M11

Lari, why would you down to SIN and back the same day connecting to HEL.Is this because of the cheap tickets you got in SIN? How much does AY BKK charge for Coach BKK-HEL-BKK?

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Thread starter):

28MAR SYD-PPT TN 004 F 343
31MAR PPT-SYD TN 003 F 343

We talk about this when you come back.8hrs ago I arrived here in LAX from CDG using TN in F. Very,very disappointed. I should have flown VS via LHR as I never used them. Well, being on Non-Rev I cant complain, but back to BKK I will be on TG. Btw - 10 years ago Corsair and AF had a connection from BKK to PPT coming from CDG. This SS 742 always had something else. Same like the PAL 742 from / to Europe. I have never seen so many AOG's in my life.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 15434 times:

Quoting FXMD11 (Reply 13):
Lari, why would you down to SIN and back the same day connecting to HEL.Is this because of the cheap tickets you got in SIN? How much does AY BKK charge for Coach BKK-HEL-BKK?

Right, SIN-Europe is SGD 915++ in Q, ex-BKK it's about THB 35000++ in N. So, with I-class to SIN and Q from there, I still saved some and it'll help the AA requalification. Not that I'm looking forward to the cattle class longhauls...  Sad I don't get the BKK fares nowadays - even I-class to HEL costs more ex-BKK than ex-SIN or even HKG.

Quoting FXMD11 (Reply 13):
We talk about this when you come back.8hrs ago I arrived here in LAX from CDG using TN in F. Very,very disappointed. I should have flown VS via LHR as I never used them.

Doesn't sound very promising... But considering the AA award is just 90K miles in F, I guess I can live with that.



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User currently offlinePieinthesky From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 392 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 15212 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 3):
SQ SIN - Excellent food and drink, lacking shower facilities
MH KUL - Perhaps my favourite with their restaurant setup, great design, showers, sauna etc

I'm another fan of the MH lounge at KUL. Apart from maybe not changing the food (or keeping it hot) enough, it's fabulous place.

I'm a bit confused with the comment re lack of shower facilites at SQ's SIN lounge ?. You can't mean the SKL, as both the Raffles and First side have showers.

I actually think SQ need to up the ante somewhat at Changi, as Dom apart, they are falling behind lounges all over the place.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15114 times:

Good report. F on SQ is quite comfy even without the suites.

Quoting SIA fan (Reply 2):
Does anyone know what's the whole point behind this arrival security screening? Why should they be concerned about inbound flights?

Screening of passengers arriving from suspect areas. No offense to Jakarta but Indonesia has had some problems with terrorists as of late. As you know with Changi once you leave the gate you can go almost anywhere in the terminal without ever coming across a checkpoint. Screening passengers as they arrive from these areas helps minimize risk if they do not have complete faith in the ability of the originating country to screen passengers. On that accord they should probably inspect us Americans arriving in SIN since TSA is a big group of goofballs.



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 15070 times:

Quoting Pieinthesky (Reply 15):
Apart from maybe not changing the food (or keeping it hot) enough, it's fabulous place.

Yeah, I remember it being a bit cold too.

Quoting Pieinthesky (Reply 15):
I'm a bit confused with the comment re lack of shower facilites at SQ's SIN lounge ?.

Just meant that the showers in the SKL F aren't really up to par. Small shower stalls with shampoo dispensers on the wall - in comparison TG/CX facilities are rather luxurious. Haven't taken a shower at KUL.

But I guess a new nice SKL is coming with T3.



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User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 15020 times:

Lari,

Great report as usual. I only wish I could fly SQ as it has been years since my last flight with them. All said and done, Changi is one of a kind.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 10):
So my experience is really limited to the SQ/KE/OZ lounges that had nice views IIRC.

I have to ask now, what is the KE Prestige Class lounge like? I hope you know why I am asking.  Wink

SR 103


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 14688 times:

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 18):
I have to ask now, what is the KE Prestige Class lounge like?

I have only been to the smaller one (used mostly by partners?). The decor was very CX HKG like, great views and good food from Hyatt Regency Incheon (KE owned btw). There were plenty of internet workstations, not sure about showers. I'm sure the larger main KAL Lounge has all you can ask for - the OZ and SQ lounges are very nice as well.

Regards,

Lari



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8524 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14535 times:
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Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 10):
I'm afraid I didn't do any spotting at all in ICN when I was there. So my experience is really limited to the SQ/KE/OZ lounges that had nice views IIRC. You'll definitely find some interesting variety there though - especially from the Russian Far East. JL was also sending DC10/742/762s to ICN when I was there - not sure if they still get 742s at least.

Thanks Lari, a little more investigation needed I think.

Rgds

Mark



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User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1740 posts, RR: 39
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14462 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 19):
I'm sure the larger main KAL Lounge has all you can ask for

Thanks for the information, I have about 4 hours at ICN coming up.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 19):
the OZ and SQ lounges are very nice as well

Unless there is another Skyteam lounge open, I don't think I willl be able to try anything else out. AAdvantage Gold is not going to get me into any lounge there on Skyteam ticket.

SR 103


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