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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5399 times:

Fulfilling a New Years Resolution; Birmingham-MAN-CWL-NQY-Plymouth


A few months ago Air Southwest dropped an email offer into my inbox; any flight, anywhere on their network for £19.95! Well, for that price I booked myself a Manchester to Plymouth return instead of the regular Bristol to Plymouth flights that I frequent, just for a weekend to go back and see family, in fact less than 5 mins after it had landed in my inbox then I had them booked, must be some kind of record I think!   


Thursday, 23rd November


So, after a virtually sleep free night due to me having to finish some important work, and then a morning discussing plans and designs in University I set off for Birmingham New Street railway station just after lunch. My train was at 14:18, so I still had loads of time and after checking the platform I headed on down where I found a seat and played a few games on my phone. I got petty engrossed in this, and didn't realise the train had arrived, but luckily there was still plenty of space onboard and I found myself a seat in carriage E.

Birmingham New Street - Manchester Piccadilly
Service:14:18 Virgin Trains Voyager service, calling at;
Wolverhampton, Stoke on Trent, Macclesfield, Stafford and Manchester Piccadilly (if I remember correctly) 
Class:220 - Voyager
Number:220 011

The seats on Virgin trains are ok, well shaped but don't have a lot of cushioning and the hard backs do tend to hurt your knees after a while, especially if your tall and have somebody sat next to you. The journey was quite slow, it seemed there were a lot of speed restrictions on the line, but after just over an hour and a half we were pulling into Piccadilly in Manchester. I could have gotten off at Stafford and then taken the train to Manchester Airport from there, but I wasn't sure how frequent the service was.



Manchester Piccadilly- Manchester Airport
Service:17:13 Trans-Pennine Express Service, calling at;
Cheadle only.
Class:175
Number:175 116

There was certainly a frequent service from Piccadilly to the airport station, I counted at least five departures within less than an hour on the board, the next one being a Trans-Pennine express, crikey I thought, might even see Lee (BMI Flyer) at work! Well as it was the conductor was a guy called Mark, incredibly polite, and he clearly had a lot of pride for his job and the service he provided, mind you he come across as quite a camp chap, hope it's still PC to say that   



Well, enough of the railways, I arrived at Manchester Airport station and after digging out my ticket again to present to the 'bouncers' checking for fare dodgers, I headed for Terminal 1. There was another 45 mins before my flight opened for check in, so I took a wonder up onto the viewing deck, MAN was empty, with just a handful of aircraft in attendance.





It was pretty cold up there, and I wanted to be first in line for check in so I didn't hang around for long, arriving back at desks 17 and 18 to claim first in line.


There wasn't long to wait, soon the girl arrived who was going to be checking in, seemingly for both the BRS/PLH and CWL/NQY flights as her colleague was late. I suppose this was where things started to go wrong; first off, although I was 99% sure it would be Dash 8 I asked her what aircraft it was - she had no idea which seemed a little unusual to me, then she couldn't get the baggage belt moving, still, she said it was ok and that was everything so I could go. As I walked away from the desk I had a feeling something was missing, but couldn't place what it was until I went to fold my boarding pass inside my passport. That's it I thought, she didn't give me my boarding pass! I returned to the desk and she looked at me blankly; "Yes?" I replied in a joking manor that I might have more luck getting on the aircraft if I had a boarding pass, the rest of the passengers stifled laughter, and whilst she turned the printing machine on I started to chat with a couple of guys going to Cardiff. I asked for seat 2D, but because Air Southwest do not have fully computerised systems, only the left hand side is available for pax going all the way to PLH, and the right hand side just for BRS. As a result I selected 2A instead, and boarding pass in hand this time, I was on my way... well as far as Burger King for an unhealthy but essential dinner!

I couldn't think of much else to do, browsing shops doesn't appeal to me much, so I progressed through security and then on to the lower gates area for internal flights operated by regional jets and props. There was still no gate showing, but I noticed an Air Southwest aircraft touching down, and then watched as it taxied up front of me.



I wasn't sure if this was my flight as still no gates were being shown, but after half an hour went by I began to be concerned by the absence of another aircraft. I asked a Menzies aviation rep if they had any news on the flight, or why the other was still sat on the tarmac with no boarding. The reason, as I was told, is that Air Southwest crews do a change at MAN, so one crew does NQY-CWL-MAN, and then changes onto the other aircraft to fly MAN-BRS-PLH. The agent didn't seem too impressed with this plan, and I must admit it made me wonder, as if one flight is late then this will automatically make the other one late.

After another 15 mins the boarding began on the NQY flight, oh dear I thought, this means only one thing - the BRS/PLH flight is cancelled. I found another handling agent who was boarding the NQY flight and asked her if it definitely was. "Yes, cancelled," she said "due to an emergency". At that point I noticed the seating map for the flight which was running, "can you fit me on the NQY flight?" I asked hopefully. She seemed positive, but said that I would need to have clearance from the head dispatcher, and that Air Southwest would also need to be asked. As quickly as I could I rang Air Southwest on my mobile, a very helpful lady at the call centre okayed it and I passed her over to the agent just for her to confirm it. Things were looking up, she disappeared down onto the tarmac and then into the aircraft, but when she came back it was not the news I had been hoping for; "Captain's already done the paperwork and calculations, so he says no more passengers," she informed me. Obviously the captains decision is final, so asking again was futile, I watched from the terminal as the doors were shut and then the tug attached, whilst I gave my mum a quick ring to let her know I would be very late, and coming by coach, although to be honest at that point I was more likely just to ask for a re-fund and take a train back to Birmingham!

But, just as I put the phone down, the aircraft door opened again, I went back up to the dispatcher, and asked her if they were allowing people on after all. Yes, they were, it seems that management, somewhere - either at headquarters down in Plymouth or at the handling agency in MAN, had got the pilot to change his mind. There were obviously limited seats, but as I ran back down to Gate 3 from 1, she said that as I had already asked I would definitely be on, great, a wonderful reprieve I thought! Obviously there were a lot of very irate passengers, but an announcement was made; seven 'volunteers' were asked for, to be put on the CWL flight and then given round transport to BRS. No seats available to NQY though, darn I thought, but I said ok to the option available, as getting from Bristol to Plymouth was possible by train. Then as an add on, it was announced that only passengers with no bags could travel, ok, that rules me out I thought, as I had checked in my (empty) laptop case, by then I was really wishing that I had jammed it into my backpack as I was thinking of doing! Still though, I though an explanation was worth a try; I offered to leave it behind if I could get on the flight, after all I could wrap my laptop in bubble wrap to take it back up in my hand luggage and then pick the case up on my return through MAN a few days later.

One of the ground staff dealing with baggage overheard this and kindly asked if i was just this small bag I had. "Yeap" I said, "it's a small black leather case, about so big," as I made a gesture with my hands as to its size. "OK" he said, "give my boys 5 mins to find it and you'll have it", the dispatcher didn't seem too pleased at this, but he was already off to get it! The other passengers were taken out to the aircraft, and I was left waiting at the gate to see if my bag could be found. Just a few minutes later the dispatcher came rushing back in, "come on, hurry up we've got it, you're going!" I couldn't thank the guy who had gone to find it enough as he handed me the case, such a kind gesture to get me on the flight, I was really thrilled and in a way touched that there are still very thoughtful people out there. I literally ran out to the aircraft and there was the familiar face of one of the stewardesses, "You're late" she said jokingly, "come in and find a seat, anywhere will do." Pretty much no sooner than I had sat down, then the paperwork was re-filed for all 44 people onboard and we were pushed back from the gate.

Now my watch strap had broken, I obviously had to turn my phone off, and because I just plonked down in 1C; literally the first available seat, I wasn't going to be taking pictures out of a window, so all of my regular methods of timing a flight were gone, it's all from memory... but if I remember correctly is fairly accurate  

MAN-CWL
Airline: Air Southwest
Flight: WOW517
Aircraft: DHC8-311
Registration: G-WOWD
Seat: 1C
Estimated Departure Time: 19:10
Actual Departure Time: 20:40
Estimated Arrival Time: 20:05
Actual Arrival Time: 21:35

On the way out to the runway I could just about see some of the other traffic, I recognized an A330 of Qatar Airways, which taxied around and took off in front of us, then it was our turn. This was going to be my second flight 'backwards' so to speak, as row 1 on the Dash 8 faces the rest of the cabin; I had sat in 1D several years ago, but remember hardly anything of that flight. It was a fairly strange experience, as we rotated and pulled up, instead of watching the cabin tip up in front of me, I watched it go down and felt myself being pushed forwards, not the usual being forced back into my seat, so pretty much exactly the opposite of how you would normally feel on a flight when facing forwards!

The initial climb out was smooth and we soon reached our cruising altitude of 15,000ft. The captain came on to advise us that there was going to be a little turbulence as we approached Cardiff itself, but that we should have an otherwise smooth flight. Even better, the crew then announced that because of the delay we could have a free drink each, one black coffee for me please - I needed something to keep me awake having been up for well over 35 hours on just an hour and a half sleep! As expected, the flight was smooth, I relaxed, sat back and listened to my walkman, in the end I shut my eyes too, because I got bored of finding a place to look ahead of me down the cabin which didn't mean I was staring right at another passenger. The descent was as the captain predicted, quite bumpy, something interesting I found looking at 13 rows of pax was how much they wobble and bounce about during turbulence, its also virtually synchronized and is quite strange to watch. I always try to keep my head and body relatively still, but having watched other people, I'm not so sure now if it works! The actual approach was quite steep and I wasn't actually sure when we touched down because it was so smooth, from the 10! feet remaining warning that I heard being barked out in the cockpit behind me to the feathering of the props I didn't feel a single bump, very nice landing.

We were on the ground at Cardiff for around 25 mins, over half of the passengers had gotten off, and once some more had boarded we had to wait a short time whilst a couple of no shows had their bags removed from the hold. During the wait I was chatting to one of the stewardesses, it was clearly not a good day for Air Southwest! If I understood correctly, the Bristol based aircraft which does some of the runs to Norwich and Leeds Bradford had gone tech and was out of service, then the aircraft I should have been on was struck by lightening whilst climbing out of Bristol, meaning an immediate emergency landing in Cardiff, again put out of service and to top it all off, she said this aircraft was having troubles maintaining constant pressurisation, which affected the crews as they walked about, making them more tired (because of altitude I would imagine). I really felt sorry for the operations manager who was going to have to deal with it all the next day!

CWL-NQY
Airline: Air Southwest
Flight: WOW517
Aircraft: DHC8-311
Registration: G-WOWD
Seat: 1C
Estimated Departure Time: 20:20
Actual Departure Time: 22:05
Estimated Arrival Time: 20:55
Actual Arrival Time: 22:35

Once again the doors were shut, and we pushed back from the gate, the crew still had no idea if there was a taxi going to be provided to take me from Newquay back to Plymouth, so just before the engines were started up I sent my mum a quick text to ask her to pick me up, boy I thought, she'll be pleased at this! I could have moved to another seat and faced forwards, but to be honest I really couldn't be bothered. The aircraft had 36 people on board, including the crew from the flight which had to divert to CWL after the lightening strike. Taxing out to the runway I noticed the RAF/ Royal BAe146 commencing its take off roll, nothing on approach so we followed it around and were soon pounding down the runway and then back up into the soggy skies above South Wales.

Captain announced we would be flying at about 10,000ft and that flying time down to Newquay was going to be roughly half an hour. Being such a short flight there was no service at all, I had a better view out of the window this time, so I watched the lights of Cardiff and Swansea disappear into the distance, and soon enough we were descending down again having crossed the border into Cornwall. The approach was a little wobbly, but yet another perfect landing was executed and we rolled out down the runway until reaching the terminal turn off. Because I was in the emergency exit row, my bags had to be stowed in an overhead towards the rear of the aircraft, where there was room, so before pax were allowed to leave their seats one of the stewardesses brought them both down to me. She also informed me that I had a taxi waiting for me, excellent I thought! After thanking them again for allowing me on, I got off and headed for the terminal.



Before going inside I snapped a quick shot of the aircraft, I had no baggage to reclaim so I went straight out and got on the phone to my mum, I suggested that she stopped where she was and I got the taxi as far as wherever she was, but by that time she was hopelessly lost and said she'd rather go home, oops! For some reason she loses her entire sense of direction in Cornwall, everywhere else it's perfectly good. I found the taxi driver and we walked off to the car, and began the journey to Plymouth. Its only 39 miles as the crow flies, but as ever roads are not direct, especially not South West ones, which have to negotiate moors, hills, rivers and estuaries. Half way, we found that the main road was closed, so hence began a late night tour of Cornwall, I drew the route on the map below 



Because my house is less than a mile from the airport he took me right back to the door, and as I suggested to him, it would be quicker for him to drive back to Newquay by going through Tavistock and up to Launceston before going down the A30. I slipped a few quid into his hand for a pint for taking me right home, and then headed indoors, the time 23:50, just 2 hours 45 mins late. I thought to myself, thank goodness I'm not on a coach; the reason I fly is because I get travel sick on coaches if I can't see the road in front of me (also the trains to Plymouth take so long and are no cheaper than the plane!).

I do get the feeling though that I might be jinxed on the MAN-PLH flight; I have attempted to fly it twice, the first occasion was my return from the MAN summer A.net meet, and I encountered a 14 hour delay, and this time it was cancelled again! Still, this time Air Southwest were excellent, on the last occasion the ground staff in MAN had been very uninformed, and were not told anything by the airline, but this time everything worked well and Air Southwest handled everything perfectly, after all it was not their fault that the Aircraft had been struck. So, a big thumbs up to them for getting me home!   

So why was this fulfilling a resolution you may be wondering? Well, three years ago my new year's resolution was to fly twice as many times as the year before, for the consecutive three years, unusual I know! The first year I succeeded on paper, but failed because a flight was cancelled and I didn't have time to take another, then in the second year I managed it easily and this, the third year, despite taking much, much more effort, it was finally accomplished as I lifted off from Manchester on my 115th flight of the year! In 2005 I had flown some 57 times, so 114 was the number to beat this year. Big grin From now on though, I'm going to concentrate on flying certain types of aircraft; the rare ones -- as well as trying to fly on as many airlines as possible.

Hopefully I shall have some interesting future trip reports to post, I have a backlog to write -- it's just finding the time to do it.

Thanks for reading, I hope you have enjoyed it.

Dan 

[Edited 2006-11-25 16:09:37]


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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5337 times:

Sounds like a bit of a nightmare! Though Air Southwest seemed to handle it quite well.


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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5269 times:
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Thanks Dan, good to hear about the trip.

Looks like Air Southwest did ok considering the problems.

Rgds

Mark



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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5248 times:

Hi Dan and thanks for posting this report about Air Southwest.

Wow, you were really not lucky with your delay / cancellation! Air Southwest's operations seem quite unreliable, my MAN-CWL-NQY and PLH-BRS-MAN trip earlier this year involved one 2-hours-delay, one divertion and one cancellation of the BRS-MAN part of the trip. At least I had the feeling that their staff / ground handling partners were always quite motivated and helpful, and your report confirms this impression.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Thread starter):
One of the ground staff dealing with baggage overheard this and kindly asked if i was just this small bag I had. "Yeap" I said, "it's a small black leather case, about so big," as I made a gesture with my hands as to its size. "OK" he said, "give my boys 5 mins to find it and you'll have it", the dispatcher didn't seem too pleased at this, but he was already off to get it! The other passengers were taken out to the aircraft, and I was left waiting at the gate to see if my bag could be found. Just a few minutes later the dispatcher came rushing back in, "come on, hurry up we've got it, you're going!" I couldn't thank the guy who had gone to find it enough as he handed me the case

Now that was really helpful, very nice touch! But do I get this right, he gave you your checked baggage as a carry-on? I don't think this is allowed, I mean you could have a knife or other stuff inside your checked baggage?

Thanks again for this report, also about the UK trains  Wink Regards, Alex.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5241 times:

Thanks for the comments so far  Smile

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 3):
Now that was really helpful, very nice touch! But do I get this right, he gave you your checked baggage as a carry-on? I don't think this is allowed, I mean you could have a knife or other stuff inside your checked baggage?

I could have, you are right in pointing that out, but it was completely empty apart from one clipboard, just your basic laptop case and I presume they did check this before bringing it out. Plus I am pretty well known by the crews on Air Southwest, I know perhaps it shouldn't be a factor because of tight security, but they know that I am not a terrorist or going to do anything stupid.

Dan Smile



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User currently offlineMikoneill From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5229 times:

Must be an unlucky week for Air Southwest, my mum was on LGW-PLH which got sturck by lightening over Torbay this afternoon. The passengers for NQY were bused onwards from Plymouth...

User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5228 times:

Nice report Dan, I just imagine myself getting hopelessly lost in England after such an event as i have no idea about any travel options up there apart from flying Big grin

User currently offlineBigvince76 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5228 times:

Hey nice report, thanks!

It does seem that WOW suffer a bit with problems, I have used them 30 odd times and had a 4 cancellations, 2 major delays of over 4 hours and many shorter delays. Nice airline though with good prices and great staff.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 4976 times:

Quoting Mikoneill (Reply 5):
Must be an unlucky week for Air Southwest, my mum was on LGW-PLH which got sturck by lightening over Torbay this afternoon. The passengers for NQY were bused onwards from Plymouth...

Ouch! Not a good journey on a coach, I wonder why they didn't drop straight down to Plymouth after the strike, possibly too much height I suppose. They bussed people to NQY for weeks at one point when one of their kites had an engine fire at LGW and the only thing they could find was a 737-200 to sub. I wish that had landed at Plymouth - lightly loaded with few pax and little fuel, could just have done it on a 1200, runway ::D

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 6):
Nice report Dan, I just imagine myself getting hopelessly lost in England after such an event as i have no idea about any travel options up there apart from flying

Don't worry, if you do get lost then the people are very friendly. My travel options were to sleep overnight in the airport and take the morning flight down (if it was running), to get on a coach for 8 hours, or to go home, so it worked out very nicely!

Quoting Bigvince76 (Reply 7):
It does seem that WOW suffer a bit with problems, I have used them 30 odd times and had a 4 cancellations, 2 major delays of over 4 hours and many shorter delays. Nice airline though with good prices and great staff.

They have the major problem of flying into Plymouth Airport, sat on top of a hill next to Dartmoor is gets blasted with ice, rain, wind, snow, fog - pretty much you name it, it will get more of it than most other airport in Southern England, and it's too small to deal with landings in such bad weather so flights either divert or get cancelled. But yes, the crews on the aircraft are some of the best I know, professional and friendly, what more could you want!

Also they've had a lot of bad luck, loads of lightening strikes recently, not at all their fault so they are coping very admirably. I have taken the return flights now, so shall post a few pics and stuff when I get the chance.

Thanks,

Dan Smile



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User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4713 times:

Thanks Dan. I rode that trip on the 20th, Monday and returned on the 23rd landing around 15H20 at MAN.

Yes, the PLH passengers are in the A/B seats while the BRS passengers are the C/D seats. BRS stop on the way down at night was interesting, 17 or 18 off, 4 on. We flew through a rainstorm on the BRS-PLH leg which was an amazing light show. I wondered if they flew through thunderstorms. From your experience it sounds like the answer is yes.

My return trip on the 23rd was pretty, fortunately, uneventful. I did like the chocolate muffin for purchase though. Southwest has a decent root structure for those needing to get to Plymouth though there's something I find off putting about them. Your experience isn't unlike my cousin's who uses them for work going down to Cardiff. Recently he had the similar experience and had to bus it from Bristol to Cardiff, missed his meeting and ended up on a train back to Manchester that night. Something like 18 hours of travel for nothing.

I'm glad you made it without the worse happening.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4588 times:

Quoting B707Stu (Reply 9):
I rode that trip on the 20th, Monday and returned on the 23rd landing around 15H20 at MAN.

Wow! We were on the same flight then, I travelled back up to MAN on the 23rd from PLH, where abouts were you sat? I was right at the back in 14D, even though I was going to MAN they put me on that side so I could have a window seat Big grin I was very surprised actually how early everyone had turned up for check in, normally it's fine to turn up 45 mins before the flight and still be one of the first to check in!

Dan Smile



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User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1939 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4547 times:
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Good report and pictures!

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User currently offlineBAtriple7 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4509 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Thread starter):
Well, enough of the railways

Indeed!

Great report, I've always wanted to read about those Air Southwest services. See them at regional airports sometimes and I would love to try one!


User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4431 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 10):
Quoting B707Stu (Reply 9):
I rode that trip on the 20th, Monday and returned on the 23rd landing around 15H20 at MAN.

Wow! We were on the same flight then, I travelled back up to MAN on the 23rd from PLH, where abouts were you sat? I was right at the back in 14D, even though I was going to MAN they put me on that side so I could have a window seat I was very surprised actually how early everyone had turned up for check in, normally it's fine to turn up 45 mins before the flight and still be one of the first to check in!

Dan

3A for the PLH-MAN flight. Rough landing in BRS, great one in MAN. I was sat immediately behind the dead-heading BA Connect co-pilot who was moving over to WOW. The co-pilot of our trip came out and chatted with him at BRS.

One thing I found amazing on the trips sitting at the front. Hearing the speakers call out 100, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10.... I could hear it clearly from the cockpit, very cool.


User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 39
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4358 times:

Hi Dan, I had a nice reading of your trip report. It's always nice to have nice staff helping you to escape from problems, big thumbs up for them !

Quoting PlymSpotter (Thread starter):
Well, three years ago my new year's resolution was to fly twice as many times as the year before

That's a 50% growth/year  Wink ! WOW!! I would have loved to have the opportunity to fly as much as you do when I was 20 years old !



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4265 times:

Quoting BAtriple7 (Reply 12):
Quoting PlymSpotter (Thread starter):
Well, enough of the railways
Indeed!

I just had to put a bit in about them to please the likes of MYT332 and BMIFlyer Wink

Quoting B707Stu (Reply 13):
Hearing the speakers call out 100, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10.... I could hear it clearly from the cockpit, very cool.

Yeah it's a nice little touch in the Dash, just how quickly they follow each other is usually a good way of telling how hard the landing will be! A few times at PLH this year they have been indistinguishablee, bad weather landings are such fun at that airport! Big grin

Quoting Alphafloor (Reply 14):
That's a 50% growth/year ! WOW!! I would have loved to have the opportunity to fly as much as you do when I was 20 years old !

I realise I am very lucky! yes  Mind you, it is actually cheaper to fly back to Plymouth than it is to take the train and this has made up about 25% of my flights, a sign of just how much LCC's have revolutionised the way we travel, but I'm not complaining!

Interesting B707Stu to hear of another pilot joining Air Southwest, it's about time for their next wave of Expansion, so we may well see another aircraft joining their fleet quite soon as well, G-WOWF I would expect.

I'll get around to uploading a few pictures of my return trip when I find some time, shouldn't be too much longer before I finish and hand in these university assignments!

Dan Smile



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User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4262 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 15):
Mind you, it is actually cheaper to fly back to Plymouth than it is to take the train and this has made up about 25% of my flights, a sign of just how much LCC's have revolutionised the way we travel, but I'm not complaining!

Exactly my thoughts Dan. The way we travel by airplane has completely changed since LCCs, that was just impossible for me 15 years ago, imagine that I had to pay a Swissair fare, no way ! I was just able to book what was called "ping-pong" flights which were basically a flight to a european destination (CDG and AMS most of the times) and back the same day with the same aircraft and only stay at the terminal, it was funny but limited somehow. I would have loved to have LCC around at that time!



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User currently offlineReifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4256 times:

Great Report! Seemed to be a very interesting day with all what happened  Smile

Thanks for sharing


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2595 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Hi - many thanks for a great report. It was especially nice to see gates 18/17/16/1/3 area at MAN, where I used to spend most of my time as a Dispatcher.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Thread starter):
I wanted to be first in line for check in so I didn't hang around for long, arriving back at desks 17 and 18 to claim first in line.

People who did that when I worked at MME drove me mad - especially the ones who parked their trolleys at the desk before the flight opened and then buggered off, as if to say 'we're first'. I used to change the screens to other desks and watch as they kept moving around in panic, despite the fact that it was way too early and no other passengers were around. If they carried on, I would then get the info desk to put out an announcement telling people not to leave their baggage unattended at check-in desks!

Can you tell it was my pet hate??  Wink


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4163 times:

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 18):
Can you tell it was my pet hate??

Just a little, lol Wink

I only bother on the MAN-PLH flights because I prefer to get the extra legroom seats, on BRS-PLH it doesn't bother me, but your sat on the Dash for well over 2 hours when coming from MAN, so it helps to have a bit more room. ...and don't worry, I always stay with my luggage, well apart from that one picture Big grin But, I was only a few feet away, it had my laptop and hard drive in it so there's no way I'm leaving that laying about!

Were you with BMI when you worked at MAN?

Dan Smile



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2595 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4112 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 19):
Were you with BMI when you worked at MAN?

Yeah - I was with them for just over 6 years, starting at MME and then moved down to MAN.


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