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User currently offlinePdanicic From Serbia, joined Oct 2005, 132 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9049 times:

Hey folks!

It is seminar time again, this time in Kiev, Ukraine. Our itinerary stated that we are about to take morning Austrian Airlines service to Vienna, Schwechat Airport (VIE) which is due to depart at 08:20, and arrive at Vienna at 09:40, then to take OS 661 to Kiev, at 10:40.
I woke up around 5 a.m., quickly took a shower, put my clothes and around 06:20 went to the airport. What I’ve noticed is the dense fog covering entire city, so I had some feeling that my flight will be delayed. Actually, Belgrade Airport is equipped with CAT III equipment, however, due to some issues which I really do not understand, one part of the system isn’t yet tested, so the airport still operates under CAT I, which makes takeoffs and landings really hard in misty conditions. Anyway, arrived at the airport, I saw a significant number of people, waiting at the check in counters, as there was around 5-6 flight leaving at the almost same time, and another 6 flying a bit later on. Went straight to the common OS/LH check in counter and received both of my boarding passes, one for BEG-VIE and one for VIE-KBP leg. Another pain was the passport and customs, as only one counter was working and a dozens of people waiting in front of it.
In around 20 mins, I’ve passed through and entered the transit area. People here and there, Montenegro Airlines Fokker 100 YU-AOT at the gate, getting ready for a flight to Podgorica, Jat Airways B737-300 YU-ANF, YU-ANK and B737-400 YU-AOR, YU-AOS sitting at the gates, waiting for their upcoming flights. Our Fokker 100, which should take us to Vienna was supposed to arrive at 07:40, and boarding was announced around that time.
However, time passed by and still we couldn't see Austrian Fokker landing. The last information we had, is that it will commence another landing run around 08:45, and if fail to land, it will go back to Vienna.
That situation really happened, and our flight to VIE was canceled. The airport staff told us to take our luggage and call to Lufthansa Ticket Counters at the airport.
I felt completely mad. Me and my friend lost our connection to Kiev in Vienna, and another possible connection is over MUC with 3:30 hours of waiting in the transit!
After several minutes, our tickets were rebooked, and now we were about to fly BEG-MUC on flight LH3401, and then MUC-KBP on flight LH3232. Later on, we checked in our bags and got boarding passes for both flights.

Flight: Lufthansa LH3401
From: Belgrade (Nikola Tesla/Surcin) (BEG)
To: Munich (Franz Jozef Strauss) (MUC)
Departure: 1255 local
Arrival: 1430 local
Equipment: Boeing B737-530 "Hildesheim"
Registration: D-ABIE
Captain: M. Konig
Class: Economy (Y)

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After few hours of waiting, and another passport/customs control, as we had to "enter" Serbia once again after our flight was canceled, boarding for flight LH 3401 to Munich was announced. It was really busy time at the airport: Air France B737-500 to Paris, British Airways A319 to London Heathrow, Alitalia Embraer 170 to Milan etc ....

Here are the few pictures I took while waiting in the gate area:

Around 12:35, we were called for boarding. First to board were business class passengers, as well as parents with small children, followed with the remaining passengers. As this was my very first flight with Lufthansa, I was really looking forward to see how the new interior looks like and I was really impressed. We were greeted by middle-age purser at the front door. On the plate opposite to him, was the wide selection of the worldwide newspapers: from Financial Times, to New York Times and Washington Post. Even some Serbian daily newspapers  Smile The interior was really nice, business class has and empty seat between aisle and window, and the walls in it are decorated with Christmas applications. Leg room was really good, much better then in Jat 737. Seats can be reclined with the push of the button which is also really good.

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Took my seat, and a few pictures more  Smile Eurowings (Lufthansa Regional) Canadair CRJ-200 landed while we boarded, from it's Dusseldorf base.

"Boarding completed" was announced at the public address system, 10 minutes before our scheduled departure time and the cabin crew started with their usual safety demonstration. This 737 doesn't have any inflight entertainment system. Pushback started and the engine no. 2 started to whine, with that lovely 737 whine sound. Soon it was started up, and the engine no.1 followed suit. After both engines were normal and stabilized, we started our taxi towards runway 30. A lot of airplanes sitting at the A platform: JU 737 YU-ANW, JU 737 YU-ANK, JP Saab 340 Cargo from Ljubljana, DHL Antonov AN26 etc....
Around 12:55, the captain pushed the throttles forward, and after 15-20 seconds roll we were airborne with really steep climb rate (which was great, if I may add Big grin)
Our flight route will take us over northern part of Serbia, then Hungary, followed with Austria (we will overfly the Alps near Linz and Salzburg) and finally, landing to Munich over Bavarian plateau. Today's flight cruising altitude will be 32000 ft, which was gained before flying into Hungarian airspace. Captain addressed the passengers, and said that we are about to land at Munich, ten minutes behind schedule with some weather information on our flight. Inflight service started about 15 minutes after departure, we had some sandwich and round of soft drinks with tea and coffee, which is really nice, at least for short flight like BEG-MUC is. About an hour into the flight, the first glimpse of Alps showed up and I was absolutely impressed with how beautiful Alps are. I felt like we are flying almost on the very tops of the mountains. Captain even made a lot's of turns as he made an approach to MUC, so we had really amaizing views. It was absolutely phenomenal.
Our descend was already initiated, and the runway in use will be 08L. We were flying over Bavarian villages already, with lot's of turns and descends to establish on the ILS. Next to us, LH A320 was making an ILS to runway 08R. It was really great to see two aircrafts landing on parallel runway at the same time  Smile
It was excellent touchdown, and after quick reverse thrust we went to the high speed exit and after that to the Terminal 2. A lot of Air Dolomiti ATRs next to us, also Lufthansa Cityline CRJ-200/700/900, Condor A320, Emirates A330 and a lot of LH widebodies  Smile
Chocks on at 14:25, and we are ready to leave the aircraft.

Nice LU's world A319

Now, we had to wait until 19:30 for our flight to Kiev. Yup .... a lot's of hours to wait  Smile Anyway, there are some Bavarian food, so it could help us out  Smile

The other trip reports will soon be here. Stay tuned, and comments please  Wink

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User currently offlineFLIEGER67 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 5243 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8683 times:

Hi, Predrag,
not the best time for flying now, lots of delays in your area but also for example in London today.
Anyway very interesting report, hope to read more from your onward journey to Kiev and back.
Markus (FLIEGER67)

User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2131 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8667 times:
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Nice report and pictures!


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User currently offlinePdanicic From Serbia, joined Oct 2005, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8508 times:

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Anyway very interesting report, hope to read more from your onward journey to Kiev and back.

Thanks a lot  bigthumbsup  Hopefully, I'll write more detailed report for the other three flights  Wink Again, thanks for the kind words  Smile

Munich is really lovely and nice airport (comparing to Vienna, which is crappy at least for me - you'll see later why  Smile )

Quoting 767747 (Reply 2):
Nice report and pictures!

Thanks a lot  Smile



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8743 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8219 times:
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Hi, nice report & photo's.

Shame about the missed connection and delays, but it's just one of those things, especially in winter.

Look forward to the next installment  Smile



User currently offlinePdanicic From Serbia, joined Oct 2005, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8010 times:

After a lots and lots of work these days, finally I managed to grab some time and write a report on the other legs 

BTW, I wish you all a really happy New Year  

Anyway, as you all read, we had around 5 hours to wait in Munich Terminal 2 building, until our flight to Kiev Borispil International, so, friend and I, relaxed a little bit .... Used the oportunity of 15 EUR heavy internet access, but it was excellent connection so I was satisfied  Being an aviation freek, later on, while sun was slowly setting down, walked around the terminal to check what's going on   Had a chance to see LH A340-300 D-AIGS getting ready for a loooong Atlantic crossing to Los Angeles, and a lot of other Lufthansa airplanes, among them this Avro RJ85  

Anyway, around 5:30 p.m. friend and I went to have some Bavarian sossages and beer  We are in Munich anyway   I was impressed with how T2 looks like. It is very clean, efficient, not too much security checks, police here and there, but all in reasonable amounts. Time passed by, and around 6:20 p.m. I was in front of gate H46, from which our flight was due to depart. Next to us, Airbus A330-300 of Lufthansa, which should depart to Delhi was in last preparations... Around 6:40, Airbus A319 D-AILW named "Donaueschingen" came from Kiev, and parked at gate H46. The aircraft came from KBP, and now it flies to KBP again   Interesting  

I got my boarding pass in Belgrade, so I just presented it to the lady at the gate before boarding. Assigned seat 10A... Should be nice  

Flight: Lufthansa LH3232
From: Munich (Franz Jozef Strauss) (MUC)
To: Kiev (Kyiv) (Borispol/Borispyl) (KBP)
Departure: 1925 local
Arrival: 2235 local
Equipment: Airbus A319-114 "Donaueschingen"
Registration: D-AILW
Captain: P. Konig
Class: Economy (Y)

Friend and I was among the first ones to board. Greeted with female purser, I was forwarded to my seat in the front part of the economy class cabin. This was my very first time flying on Airbus, and I couldn't really see much difference between it and Boeing 737 I used when flying in to Munich. Big issue with LH 320s family is that there is absolutely no IFE, which is really bad, at least to my opinion (they are flying them on FRA-KUF flights, for example, which takes 4:30 hours). However, legroom was really good, just as in the 737   Put my laptop and my jacket in the overhead compartment and took my seat. Flight was around 85% full, however no one between friend and me which gave us additional comfort 

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Since I didn't have a camera  () I've used my mobile camera, so that's the last picture I took in Munich...

Boarding was soon completed, followed with "Boarding completed" announcement on the PA system, and pushback around 7:15 p.m. Captain announced that our flight time to KBP would be 1:50 hours. We are about to fly at an altitude of 38000 ft, with favourable winds among the route. Our Airbus was about to fly over Germany, Austria, a bit southern of Vienna, then straight to Bratislava, and then directly to Ukraine, somewhere over Ivano Frankivs'k, with landing in Kyiv 25-30 minutes later....
Quick taxi to the runway we landed on when flying from BEG, which is 08L. Taxiied among a lot of LH Cityline CRJs as well as Air Dolomiti ATRs. There was no waiting time so captain did a rolling takeoff to shorten the takeoff distance. After applying the thrust, the Airbus showed it's unique roar sound  It was really good   20 sec roll and we were airborne, starting the left turn... City of Munich could be seen in the distance. Soon, we were flying parallel to the runway just in the opposite direction.

After that, there was no way to see anything as it was dark   Crew soon started with drinks. I took an orange juice. In about 15 minutes, they served dinner. It was a hot meal, something like chicken with vegetables ... really, and I mean REALLY tasty, followed with desert and another two rounds of sort drinks as well as beer, or wine ... even vodka, jin etc ...   Good way to go Lufthansa  

Around 20 mins before landing, the cabin crew gave us an immigration cards which should be filled and given to the Ukrainian authorities upon landing...

A lot of turns and we were established for landing. It was absolutely great landing. Captain used only spoilers but no reverse thrust, probably because we landed late in the evening .... After short taxi we were on stand, next to an Aeroflot Tupolev 154M, arrived from Moscow SVO few minutes before us  

Bussed to terminal, completed passport checks, picked up our bags and off we go to the Kiev  )))

I forgot to put few pictures from Kiev ...

For example, here is the Serbian flag, as me and friend, formed a delegation on a seminar we've been in Kiev Big grin

And of course, satisfied member of delegation after the work well done Big grin (that's MEEEE Big grin)

Enjoy  Wink

The other two will follow, probably today or tomorrow  

[Edited 2007-01-03 17:04:15]

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 30077 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7793 times:

Hi there nice pics!! Tell me have they finished the renovation work after security control in BEG yet???

User currently offlinePdanicic From Serbia, joined Oct 2005, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7722 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 6):
Hi there nice pics!! Tell me have they finished the renovation work after security control in BEG yet???

Not yet  Sad It is mostly done, however there are still some things that have to be completed.

Regards  Wink

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 30077 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7552 times:

Ok I am there in August so hope to see BEG finished. BEG is a favourite of mine and I love to visit Serbia every year.

User currently offlinePdanicic From Serbia, joined Oct 2005, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7502 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Ok I am there in August so hope to see BEG finished. BEG is a favourite of mine and I love to visit Serbia every year.

Thanks  Wink Belgrade is really nice city, and I'm really glad you like Serbia  Smile

Welcome  bigthumbsup 

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