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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6290 posts, RR: 10
Posted (14 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

Allright folks.

As you may know, I like 717s. IF I could, I would have Johann change my name to LEGENDAIRY717. BUT- Legend is gone, and 717s are hard to come by in this world.

I may get shot down for saying this, but it's my opinion and I am going to state it. I don't feel safe about AirTran.

I am taking a trip to Washington DC this summer (the fifth trip to DC in a year). So far, I have taken three airlines to DC: Legend (sniff) AmericAAn, and United.

This time, I wanted something else. So I booked on TWA. I have a 717 from DFW to STL, and then an MD-80 from STL to DCA. Then, coming back, it's the same two types. I am thrilled. I specifically wanted TWA because they are about to exist no more. AND I got on a 717.

But I have read several trip reports, and they sound like... a cheap, cost cutting airline.

I certainly understand why they wanted to cost cut. But they didn't cut enough, and we know that already.

So what should I expect? That's the point of the post. Has anyone taken them recently? Of all four flights- each two hours long- I get meal service on only ONE of them. That's not up to United standards. On another flight, I get a snack (wohoo, a bag of pretzels) and on another flight, I get DRINK service. HOWEVER- on the first flight (DFW-STL) I get NOTHING. Not even a drink service. What the heck is that???

So is this going to be as bad as I am thinking???

The good thing is that, even if the flight attendants scream at me and I get no food at all, I will at least be flying a tribute to history. AND that 717 I wanted.

So what should I anticipate?


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User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

I did EXACTLY what you are thinking about... flying TWA just for the 717.  Big grin

I wanted to fly United to Iowa, but then I figured why pass up a flight on the 717. Well, the whole TWA experience EXCEPT the 717 flight was pure hell. Of course the TWA people in Seattle were rude (the people in STL and Iowa were the nicest folks though... except that guy with the New York accent...). Of course I was assigned seat 33F on three of four legs (on MD80s... right next to engine no 2...ARGH). But I guess it was worth the 717 flight. Very quiet, comfortable- a joy to fly.

So- I say go for it. I'm glad I did, but I'll never fly TWA again (even if it were staying in business) nor will I ever fly AirTran.

User currently offlineJason Seiple From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

The B717's are great. I've taken about 6 flights on TWA B717's so far..... However 5 of them were in First Class (which is the best on that aircraft out of TWA's whole narrowbody fleet with much better leather seats that have adjustable headrests and kind of cradle you when you recline). I find it hard to believe they don't do a drink service on DFW-STL. They do drink service to full MD-80's on the 50 minute OMA-STL flight (to the entire aircraft, not just First) and have time to run through once for refills sometimes. Meals in coach seem to usually be a sandwich... all my recent meal flights on TWA have been in First, but from what it looked like coach got a sandwich and chips. I know on one breakfast flight there was a muffin, yogurt, and apple for coach, which is about what you get on two hour breakfast flights with most US airlines.

I have never had a serious problem with TWA. Their staff here in Omaha especially are great people. They go out of their way to make flying TWA a pleasant experience for all passengers. The folks in STL are very good at their jobs and I've seen them pull some amazing things off.

Jason Seiple

User currently offlineRyanair From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

I've flown TWA more than anyother US Airline and have always found them very good. Only problem is there is a tendancy to runout on long flights and checkin queues at JFK are horrible in the afternoon/evening.

User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2020 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (14 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

I have flown TWA four times in the last three months. Every time it was in coach. The FAs on TWA seem quite rude at times. Service has gotten a little bit better since AA has bought them out. I would fly other airlines if it was my choice but when you have to get in or out of STL on a couple of hours notice, the choices are limited. The main redeeming factor is that I'm not paying for these flights!  Smile

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6290 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (14 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

I just chose them because they are about to... how should I say... not fly airplanes much longer? I think it's a bad thing to lose an airline, but that's the way it goes.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6290 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Surely there has got to be some experience on this forum with TWA and 717s or MD80s.

I think I may post a new topic- Know anything about TWA MD-80s???

There's an idea.


User currently offlineMac From United States of America, joined May 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

TWA is my favorite airline...not because of what they do or serve....but because of its history.

As an airline of this day and age, TWA is not much different from any other major airline. My last flight, which was in April was aboard a McDonnell/Douglas DC-9
dash 80 or 90...a very stable aircraft with coach seating the same as in any other aircraft of its type. However,
TWA was very kind to me and placed me in seat 7A which is a bulkhead seat next to the window on the left hand side of the cabin. I had more leg room than I knew what to do with. They booked me in that seat from San Diego to St. Louis to Kansas City....and returned to San Diego in the same seating space. It was really nice of them to to that for me.

We did not have a full meal service on the flight but we did have our choice of various beverages...coffee, tea, soft drinks, alcohal beverages. Great weather out and back.
And.....on time everywhere the plane landed....again to and from.

I have no complaints at all regarding TWA. I for one will miss them.

User currently offlineR.I.P TWA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 11 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

I've flown TWA my ENTIRE life for free, and at times I've had complaints, but I must say overall, they're pretty good. Most of their FAs are very experienced, and their on-time performance is exemplary. I've never flown on the 717 but I've flown the MD-80 LAX-STL among other places, many times. I think it's a very enjoyable flight. Very smooth take-offs and very smooth landings. The 3-2 config's nice as long as you don't get suck in the middle. I say do it. TWA's got a very good safety record, and you'll almost always get the whole can of soda. Too bad they won't be around much longer.

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