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Intra Indonesia Jakarta With Sriwijaya (Photos)  
User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 18
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 11768 times:

This is my trip report #4 on Airliners.Net and it is a Sriwijaya Air trip report.  cheerful 



I received a short notice from my superior on 14 January 2007, telling me that I have to attend a meeting in Kuala Lumpur on the next day. At 15:00 hours, the only option to return to KUL was via CGK. So I packed up my documents and a few personal belongings and was already on the way to Pontianak's Supadio Airport (PNK) an hour later. I planned to catch the last flight to CGK with Sriwijaya Air (SJ) and later, connect on the last flight to KUL with MH. Something very bizarre is about to happen and I think it can only happened here in Indonesia. At that time, the Adam Air (first) crash (Manado) was the headlines all over the place.


PRE FLIGHT

Sunday, 14 January 2007


I arrived at PNK at 16:30 hours and rushed to SJ's ticket counter, wanting to get myself a one way ticket to CGK. A SJ staff, Tony, was talking on his walkie talkie when he suddenly shouted to the other party who he was talking to, telling them to wait for a while. Tony ran out from the SJ's ticketing office and asked me to follow him. In a very rushed manner, I was passed through the first security screening, SKIPPED the check in procedure, but was held back to pay the IDR 25.000 airport tax, passed through the second security screening before entering the boarding lounge, run through the boarding lounge and hopped onto an airport bus, which has been waiting for me, ALL WITHIN 3 MINUTES TIME!. I was not sure whether I managed to catch a breath or not!  Wow!

 checkmark  USD 1 = IDR 9.000

Inside the bus Tony had a big laugh. Knowing that I was very clueless of what was happening, Tony explained to me that the flight was about to leave seconds before I arrived at the ticket counter. That's why he shouted to his colleague through the walkie talkie, asking them to wait for me. Tony then requested for IDR 365.000 for the airfare, but he insisted that no document be it a ticket or a boarding pass will be issued out what so ever. I asked him whether it was acceptable to which, he nodded. A minute later, the bus arrived at the apron where the equipment was parked. Before disembarking the bus, Tony gave me his name card and bid me goodbye. I thanked him and climb up the stairs and was then already inside the aircraft.

I am not sure whether Tony has breached any of the SJ, airport authorities or maybe IATA's regulations by doing so but I couldn't thanked him more since if I missed the flight, I won't be able to attend the meeting on the following day.

The flight attendant closed the door once I got onboard and taxiing began soonafter. I was ushered to the back side of the cabin and sit at a window seat there, as I apparently didn't have a ticket hence, was not allocated a seat. I was actually quite surprised for the early departure as the flight was scheduled to depart at 17:00 hours. This was certainly the highlight of the trip! I never thought that it was possible. And this was only my second experience with SJ. I am eager to know what Indonesia have in store for me in the future.  bouncy 


FLIGHT'S DETAILS

Date/Day: 14 January 2007/Sunday
Flight Number: SJ 183
Carrier: Sriwijaya Air
Aircraft: Boeing 737-200
Aircraft Registration No: PK-CJM
Route: Pontianak (PNK) to Jakarta (CGK)
Departure Time: 16:30 hours Indonesian (West) time (GMT 7)
Arrival Time: 17:50 hours Indonesian (West) time (GMT 7)
Seat Number: Not Allocated
Journey: 1 hour 20 minutes
Distance: 452 miles
Class of Travel: Economy
Fare Category: Not Applicable


First and foremost. AMAZING INDONESIA!

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My ONLY travel document, a IDR 25.000 airport tax receipt. No ticket, no boarding pass.

As I settled down on my seat, the flight attendants began the manual safety demonstration. I noticed that the safety jackets, which SJ used still bear CO's logo on it. I bet the equipment was previously operated by CO.

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Flight attendants during safety demonstration.

We rolled and rotated soon after. The flight was the last scheduled flight out of PNK on that day. SJ is among the 3 carriers, which serve the PNK-CGK route. The other two are Batavia Air (7P) and the (again) "sensational" Adam Air (KI). As I travel frequently with 7P, I may compare their product offering with that of SJ's.

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Moments before taking off.

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Up, up and away with a view of farms, which surrounded PNK.


View over the equipment's left engine, soon after take off.

The flight was quite full that day. Load factor was at around 85%. All the passengers were seated at the front rows, leaving only the last 3 rows at the back empty, where I was the only passenger seated there.

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View over the empty rows at the back of the equipment.

We flew over Kalimantan's beautiful landscape. The winding river and lush tropical rainforest were sprawling below. Kalimantan is the Indonesian territory on Borneo, the world's third largest island.

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View over Kalimantan's landscape.

About 10 minutes later, the flight attendants began their snack service run. The flight attendants served the snacks from a tray.

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A flight attendant during snack service run.

SJ provides a snack box for each passenger, just like 7P. But I think their snack box looks better than that of 7P's.

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SJ's snack box.

Inside the box, passengers were given a chicken puff, a slice of cake and a packed mineral water (in a regular glass size plastic container), which I think superior than 7P's bun offering. They taste better too.

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Inside SJ's snack box.

SJ offers quite a number of publications onboard too, more than 7P's offering. Inside the seat's pouch, there were inflight shopping catalog, safety instruction card, inflight magazine and SJ's frequent flyer program enrolment form, beside the normal puke bag.

Speaking of SJ's FFP, it is a simple program, which offers discount on SJ's airticket, more baggage allowances and free travel insurance, if I could recall. Passengers are required to pay a yearly fee of IDR 600.000 to enroll.

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SJ's inflight publications.

Then, the flight attendants began their inflight sales cart run. SJ really going in full swing during this run. They tried very hard selling their goodies. Recalling my first flight with SJ, one of the flight attendant even took a catwalk on the aisle to model a scarf, which they wanted to sell to a passenger. I was totally amazed by their effort. A fellow A.Netter, a popular one here  tongue , also informed me that sometimes a SJ's flight attendant earns more commissions from inflight sales than their salary as the flight attendant itself.

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SJ's inflight sales tun.

The sales transaction inflight is on cash basis only. Credit card is not accepted.

The seat pitch in SJ flight is acceptable, I think it was at around 30', not too cramped as in some of 7P's flights.

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SJ's seat pitch.

Most of SJ's fleet are the Boeing 737-200s, which are very old but SJ managed to take good care of them. Although the interior was a bit worn out, it was clean and served its functions. The seat layout is 3-3 abreast and all SJ's flights are on a single class configuration. The cabin looked bright thanks to the seats' red head covers, which promote/were sponsored by Telkomsel, one of Indonesia's leading telcom provider.


View over SJ's cabin.

Midway, I walked around the rear part of the cabin and took the following photos, while stretching out a bit.  stretch 


View over the rear part of the cabin, the washroom is at the center.


View over the crew jump seat.

The weather throughout the journey was fine, although a bit cloudy.


View outside the window, over the engine, while cruising.

Soon, we approached the Java coast.


View over Java coastline.

There were a lot to see while the flight started its decent into CGK.

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View over some paddy fields, or was it flooded farms?

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What I believe is the Port of Tanjung Priok.

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A seaside resort or a marina maybe.

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An upscale seaside residential area.

and finally...

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View over cloudy downtown Jakarta, way beyond, moments before landing.

The landing was smooth. The followings are landing sequence in chronological order...

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About to land.

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Still airborne.

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Almost...


Finally, on the ground.

During the long taxi to the gate which the flight was assigned, I managed to catch some actions in CGK.

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An Adam Air flight is waiting for its turn to take off. They were indeed in all newspapers' headlines across the country.

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A Batavia Air aircraft sitting alone on the apron.

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Also a lonely aircraft, a Mandala Airlines docked near the terminal building.

The equipment soon joined its fellow SJ's Boeing 737s at the assigned gate.

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Joining PK-CJE and PK-CJD at the gate.

The Terminal 1 at CGK did not offer any view from the gates as most part of it are covered with wall or paneling, not glassy as the majority of airports in Malaysia.


My last view over the equipment, couldn't see it clearly due to the wall paneling at CGK.

Soon, I joined the crowd passing through the gardens between the gates at CGK's Terminal 1 on our way out.

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View over the walkway to baggage collection area.

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View over the garden between the gates at CGK's Terminal 1.

The view over the main terminal building is quite nice from the garden.

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View over the mid section part at CGK's Terminal 1, which houses some restaurants and shops, on the departure level.

The walkway seemed brighter as I got nearer to the baggage collection area.

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View over the walkway to the baggage collection area, which located beyond the door.

I don't have any checked in luggage as I travel in an extremely light manner this time. While passing through the baggage collection conveyors, I noticed that they put a comodo dragon on each conveyor.

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View over the baggage collection conveyors at CGK's Terminal 1, with a comodo dragon "guarding" it.

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A close up of the comodo dragon.

To those who are not familiar with comodo dragon, they are a giant lizard (with sizes larger than most average crocodiles), which inhabited the Komodo Island in Indonesia (hence the name) and it can only be found on that island. Comodo dragon is exclusively unique to Indonesia, think of the creatures on Galapagos Island.

I walked passed the conveyors and headed to the main arrival hall.

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View on my way to the main arrival hall.

As usual, I was greeted by a lot of touts offering rides to downtown Jakarta. I politely refused them and walked towards the drop off area to snap some photos.

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View outside CGK's Terminal 1, huge crowd as always.

Then, I waited for a taxi to get to CGK's Terminal 2 (the international terminal).

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View of CGK's Terminal 1 exterior, while waiting for a taxi to Terminal 2.

But, before leaving Terminal 1, I managed to get a glimpse of KI's ticketing office there, while wondering how they are doing post the Manado crash/disappearance incident.

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View over KI's ticketing office in CGK's Terminal 1. Quite deserted I would say.

Moments later, I got myself a taxi and then headed to Terminal 2 to catch my next flight to KUL.

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View on my way to CGK's Terminal 2, inside the taxi.

Before ending the trip report, I would like to highlight on some interesting matters that I managed to observe and experience on this particular journey.

The Good


  • Tony! I wish all airline staff could be as helpful as him.

  • Sometimes, a disorganized situation can lead to something beneficial. This happened quite frequent to me in Indonesia. If a rigid and "follow the rules regulation" was imposed, I was surely won't be able to board the aircraft. To be able to board an aircraft without a ticket, boarding pass, normal check in procedure and such are indeed a "history" in my flying diary.


The Bad

SJ need to pay more attentions to some little aspects inside their aircraft. I hope I won't be seeing the following instances on my next flight with them.

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An insect in between the window. How on earth did the creature managed to get inside there and even died in it?

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Torn safety instruction cards. This is actually the safety instruction card inside the seat's pouch in front of me. The one, which was photographed earlier was taken from other seat.

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Tarnished window. I guess the level of tarnishness is below acceptable level, don't you think so?

and last but certainly not the least...

The Ugly

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The taxi driver who ferried me from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2. He thought that I am a stranger to Jakarta. He made 2 circular rounds while getting me to Terminal 2, creating an illusion of a longer and farther journey. At the end of it, asking for IDR 100.000. I was like "WHAT???” I just walked away and didn't pay him even a single cent. In short, he is a B*ST*RD!

There is a complementary shuttle bus service (yellow mini buses) between Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 of CGK, but the service is inconsistence, in keeping with true Indonesian style. The normal taxi fare to downtown Jakarta, some 20 km away is only IDR 75.000, so how on earth can it cost IDR 100.000 for a 2 minutes rides from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2? I have taken numerous taxi rides from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2 and the journey should cost only IDR 10.000. This is the first time I experienced such “being ripped off” incident after 2 years living in Indonesia.  no 

REMINDER
 checkmark Please avoid all taxis BY ALL MEAN WHATSOEVER AT ALL COST except for the blue Bluebird Taxi and white Express Taxi whenever you are in CGK or in Jakarta to avoid yourself from hating and cursing all 220 million of Indonesians, for ripping you off. My encounter with this guy, Taryani of Concorde Taksi is monumental, as I have decided that there will be no more Mr. Nice Guy Azizul in CGK ever. I will run, scream, hit and even harass anyone who mess up with me in CGK in the future, I swear!!!  grumpy 


My journey continues.  wave 

Feel free to read my other trip reports:
Istanbul Winter 2006 With MH (Photos) Part 1 (by 9MMAR Dec 19 2006 in Trip Reports)
Istanbul Winter 2006 With MH (Photos) Part 2 (by 9MMAR Dec 19 2006 in Trip Reports)
Intra Asean Jakarta In Business With MH (by 9MMAR Jan 1 2007 in Trip Reports)
Intra Indonesia Pontianak With Batavia (Photos) (by 9MMAR Feb 13 2007 in Trip Reports)


9MMAR

30 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2590 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 11706 times:

Hi,

Great report and photos. I was in CGK this time last year and SJ was one of the more interesting airlines that caught my eye - especially as a B732 operator. I believe they are one of the more reputable carriers in Indonesia.

Your approach photos reminded me of when I was on the same approach aboard a Yemenia A332 - our photos are very similar.

Many thanks for sharing your experience - I personally hope to take another B732 flight in future too.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 11697 times:

9M-MAR,

Great report, brings back memories of my SJ flight CGK-SUB. I see you flew on an ex-US Air Metrojet 737-200, dunno where CO comes into play. I had an ancient 30-year old ex-Olympic classic without the extended bins and a "Boeing 707"window shade. Big grin I got a boarding pass with assigned seating and no name though.

Regards,

Lari



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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11688 times:

UK_Dispatcher:
Hi Ian. Indeed, there are a lot of B732s operator here in Indonesia. Indonesia is like B732s' heaven! But personally, I try not to fly in it due to safety reason.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 1):
I believe they are one of the more reputable carriers in Indonesia.

From what I gathered from our experts (Indonesian A.Netters), yes SJ is one of the handful of reputable carriers in Indonesia. Although operating a lot of aging B732s in its fleet, I never heard any incident involving SJ, so far.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 1):
our photos are very similar.

Really? That shows we got quite the same taste in photography.  tongue  I hope you will enjoy your next flight onboard B732s.



Lufthansa747:
Hi Lari. Yes, I read that trip report of yours. In fact, it was from your trip report that I knew about the white Express Taxi. I think it was a suggestion from HB-IWC, if I was not mistaken.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 2):
dunno where CO comes into play.

I will take a photo of the life jacket the next time I fly with them. It was this CO's globe logo on the left side of the jacket. I can't be mistaken.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 2):
I got a boarding pass with assigned seating and no name though.

What can I say, welcome to Indonesia. At least you got the boarding pass. Big grin

Thank you Ian and Lari for reading my trip report.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11686 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 3):
Hi Lari. Yes, I read that trip report of yours. In fact, it was from your trip report that I knew about the white Express Taxi. I think it was a suggestion from HB-IWC, if I was not mistaken.

True... Great value compared to the equally reliable BlueBird Group taxis.

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 3):
What can I say, welcome to Indonesia. At least you got the boarding pass.

But what do I try next??? haha... Done Adam/Batavia/Garuda/Lion Airlines/Mandala/Sriwijaya/Wings Air... Merpati I guess, or is Airefata or whatever the M88 operator was called still operating?

Cheers,

Lari



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User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11622 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 4):
Airefata or whatever the M88 operator was called still operating

go to their web-page:
In order to refit our fleet properly, Air Efata services have been temporarily suspended until the end of the year....

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 4):
But what do I try next??? haha...

well, I am expecting from you very soon

1. KALSTAR Airlines
2. Trigana Air
3. TOP AIR (if still active?)
4. AWAIR- AIR ASIA
5. Kartika Airlines


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 11555 times:

Lufthansa747:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 4):
Great value compared to the equally reliable BlueBird Group taxis.

But unfortunately, some of the white Express Taxi drivers are not friendly. Bluebird is definitely the best.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 4):
But what do I try next???

Some suggestion from me, if you have the guts (if you know what I mean):

  • Dirgantara Air Services (DAS), operates 19 turboprops.
  • Merpati Nusantara Airlines, arguarbly Indonesia's second largest carrier with 80 fleet but only 22 operating.
  • Indonesia Air Asia, operates 6 B733s. Should be fine as it is a Malaysian francise.  wink 
  • Pelita Air, operates 1 turboprop.
  • Kartika Air, operates 2 B732s.
  • Riau Airlines, operates 4 F50s.
  • Trigana Air Services, operates 7 ATRs and 1 B732.
  • Deraya, operates 5 turboprops.
  • Travel Express, operates 2 B732s.


Debonair:
Thank you for reading my trip report. Didn't you?  tongue 


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4497 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11441 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Thread starter):
Tony then requested for IDR 365.000 for the airfare, but he insisted that no document be it a ticket or a boarding pass will be issued out what so ever. I asked him whether it was acceptable to which, he nodded. A minute later, the bus arrived at the apron where the equipment was parked. Before disembarking the bus

You might think that Tony was a nice guy for arranging all of that for you, but Tony was first and foremost thinking about himself, as the Rp. 365,000 will have undoubtedly ended up straight into his pockets. No matter how much I understand that you really had to catch this flight, you have put yourself at great risk to a certain extent, as your name wasn't mentioned in the passenger manifest, so in case of any irregularity or calamity, you wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.

Situations like these are all too common in Indonesia. Often, the passenger manifest of domestic flight has very little to do with the actual passengers on board, both in terms of names and in terms of the number of passengers. Airline and airport staff use this lack of oversight to make an extra couple of thousand rupiahs left and right (as Tony, and presumably some of this friends did in your case) but all of this is really not in the passenger's interest, for sure not in case of irregular operations or, worse, in case of accidents.

It is also well known that travel agents, sometimes with inside help from the airline, often buy up large amounts of seats ahead of peak periods in order to sell them at a hefty upcharge. In that case, seats are booked under very random names, and passenger manifests full of AGUS/MR or YANTI/MRS are very common, even if that is absolutely not the passenger's name. Often, not even the passenger's sex is correct!

The government has recently announced a drive to eradicate this malpractice, yet, as with all government drives here, too many people (Tony and his friends come to mind) stand too much to lose if passenger names were to be strictly checked against the names printed on the ticket, so I don't really expect this action to go anywhere. The fact remains, though, that in case anything happens, those passengers not on the manifest or those passengers with incorrect names will generally not be allowed to claim anything from the insurance.

Quoting 9MMAR (Thread starter):
The taxi driver who ferried me from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2. He thought that I am a stranger to Jakarta. He made 2 circular rounds while getting me to Terminal 2, creating an illusion of a longer and farther journey. At the end of it, asking for IDR 100.000. I was like "WHAT???” I just walked away and didn't pay him even a single cent. In short, he is a B*ST*RD! There is a complementary shuttle bus service (yellow mini buses) between Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 of CGK, but the service is inconsistence, in keeping with true Indonesian style.

Common practive at Soekarno Hatta. You better rely on the shuttle bus between the terminals, which is actually more reliable than you would think, and should pass by about every 15-20 minutes or so. This shuttle bus is actually operated by the Blue Bird Company, under the Big Bird name, and buses are not yellow but blue and will take you around free of charge.

In case you reallu have to resort to a taxi, by all means go for one of the established companies such as Blue Bird, Express or Gamya. Concorde is not a reputable taxi company. As a rule of thumb, one should steer away from every taxi in blue which does not belong to the Blue Bird Group, as most of these taxies are just banking on Blue Bird's good reputation to enhance their own business.

When traveling between terminals at CGK, insist they put on the meter and pay no more than Rp. 10,000 for the short trip between. Actually, the distance if perfectly walkable and I've done it several times already when I didn't have the patience to wait for the free shuttle service.


User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1684 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11407 times:

Azizul,

Great trip-report, as usual...

I noticed one F/A has a 'golden' band and the other hasn't: is she a Purser/Lead Stewardess ? Nice looking uniforms as well  Smile

The box looks nice indeed and the contents is quite acceptable for such a short flight.

Thanks a lot for the tip, also to HB-IWC, regarding the taxi's at CGK and city: as I'll be visiting JKT in June, this will be a great help...

Hope to see more TR from you soon: love to read the various domestic Indo flights and experiences !!!



don't throw away tomorrow !
User currently offlineKretek From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11338 times:

Nice trip report! The cake made my mouth drool. BTW, it is called Kue Lapis Surabaya (Layer cake of Surabaya). The snack box looks presentable. On KLM Cityhopper intra-european flights, they just hand out a small bread roll.
Nice pics of the airport in traditional Javanese style. It makes the airport look 'exotic'. You don't get to see airports in ethnic/cultural style these days, just the modern concrete glass types. Although, the inside of the airport looks rather dark and old and is in need of improvement.


User currently offlineThaiA345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 876 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11322 times:

Hey Azizul....Greast TR ...raelly enjoyed and and one thing I have to comment, is that you are one brave soul, for me, I have even yet to venture out of GA for domestic flights!!! I have never even been on Lion Air. Well, as an Indonesian, we can see me trust level for my fellow domestic airlines!!

"A seaside resort or a marina maybe". Thats actually an upmarket residential area built on reclaimed land, its called Pantai Mutiara

Funny how strange is seems where there is no direct flight from PNK to KUL, you actually have to detour to CGK. Oh well, there oen more route you can consider to open yup huh!! ..maybe start up our own airline!!  Smile


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4742 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11316 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Thread starter):
which SJ used still bear CO's logo on it. I bet the equipment was previously operated by CO.

The Lion Air MD80 that I was on also has CO logosd and Spanish signage plastered all over the plane.

Quoting 9MMAR (Thread starter):
Recalling my first flight with SJ, one of the flight attendant even took a catwalk on the aisle to model a scarf, which they wanted to sell to a passenger.

That sounds like a lot of effort just to sell a scarf but it also seems as if the crew is having a ball of a time. SJ is one of the carriers that seem to be trotting along just fine without a hint of a scandal as yet.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o10/9MMAR/Jakarta%2014%20January%202007/DSC00578.jpg
My my... Are those flooded land next to the highway? That is the toll-road that goes past Trisakti University that leads to Semanggi isn't it?

Quoting 9MMAR (Thread starter):
Moments later, I got myself a taxi and then headed to Terminal 2 to catch my next flight to KUL.

Why didn't you take the shuttle bus? Granted I had my little adventure during my last trip not knowing where the hell the bus departed from and all... or whether they arrived in the first place but it was still better than paying for the taxi. THE SHUTTLE BUS IS FREE!

Quoting 9MMAR (Thread starter):
Please avoid all taxis BY ALL MEAN WHATSOEVER AT ALL COST except for the blue Bluebird Taxi and white Express Taxi

Golden / Silver / Blue Bird taxis are about the only cabs that I trust in Jakarta. Anyone else is an absolute no no for me, no matter how tempting their fares are. In fact, I do not even trust the taxi counters within the terminal building after one tried to rip me off several trips ago. Now I just head for the Silver Bird taxi lines.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 7):
You might think that Tony was a nice guy for arranging all of that for you, but Tony was first and foremost thinking about himself, as the Rp. 365,000 will have undoubtedly ended up straight into his pockets.

Pretty daring for him to pass out his namecard for that matter.



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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11288 times:

HB-IWC:
Hi Nick,

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 7):
as the Rp. 365,000 will have undoubtedly ended up straight into his pockets.

Actually to be frank, I wouldn't expect things to be like that. Since I arrived at the airport at 16:30 hours, they should be able to issue a ticket for a scheduled 17:00 hours flight. Anyway, the normal one way fare from PNK-CGK with SJ is IDR 315.000, so (in a way) Tony just marked up IDR 50.000, to which I think acceptable.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 7):
you have put yourself at great risk to a certain extent, as your name wasn't mentioned in the passenger manifest, so in case of any irregularity or calamity, you wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.

Agreed. Just imagine if the flight crashed. I would be considered as "disappered"!

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 7):
Situations like these are all too common in Indonesia.

Indeed. Things like boarding an aircraft without a ticket (as in my case), boarding an aircraft using someone else's ticket, passengers name in passports are not as per ticket but were allowed to board, so on and so forth, can only be done in Indonesia, I believe.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 7):
It is also well known that travel agents, sometimes with inside help from the airline, often buy up large amounts of seats ahead of peak periods in order to sell them at a hefty upcharge.

I know a lot of them (some are even my close acquintances). Whenever I went to 7P's or SJ's ticketing office in Pontianak, there will always be a lot of tour agents' employees, who will purchase a bulk of tickets. Defitinely a common sight for me. I think the airlines support this practice to ensure that their seats are fully sold out, like the case 7P's PNK-CGK-PNK route, always sold out without any apparent reason.

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 7):
and buses are not yellow but blue and will take you around free of charge.

On the return journey, I insisted in taking the shuttle bus and I did. But it was a yellow bus. Maybe they have colourful buses? Big Bird, what a name! Reminds me of Sesame Streets. Big grin

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 7):
Actually, the distance if perfectly walkable and I've done it several times already when I didn't have the patience to wait for the free shuttle service.

You did that? Really? It's quite far I think, plus the road from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2 is only 2 lanes and the traffics are heavy. Of course you can walk behind the road side divider but to stroll a luggage on unpaved surface along the way would be ridiculuosly dreadful. Unless one is travel with no luggage.

I regard your reply as a good reminder for me, to think of my safety on top of everything else in the world. Thank you so much for your concern.  Smile



MH017:

Quoting MH017 (Reply 8):
I noticed one F/A has a 'golden' band and the other hasn't: is she a Purser/Lead Stewardess ?

Hoi Pieter. Hoe gaat het vandaag?  cheerful  What a sharp observation you got. I have no idea, but could be. While doing the inflight sales cart run, the one with the 'golden' band take care of the cash.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 8):
Nice looking uniforms as well

I think their uniform is a stylized cheongsam but was worn with a pant, ala Vietnamese ao dai (minus the long sleeve hand, but cheongsam should be sleeveless though, so their design is in between).

Quoting MH017 (Reply 8):
The box looks nice indeed and the contents is quite acceptable for such a short flight.

Their snack box is definitely better than Batavia's. When GA used to served the route, passengers were offered full hot meals. GA's Citilink on the other hand, (used to) only offered passengers sweets and a cup of mineral water. Very no frill!

Quoting MH017 (Reply 8):
as I'll be visiting JKT in June

Keep me updated. Maybe I can show you around Jakarta. We can invite HB-IWC to join us too, but he's always too busy to even dine with me.  Wink



Kretek:
Good day Kretek,

Quoting Kretek (Reply 9):
On KLM Cityhopper intra-european flights, they just hand out a small bread roll.

I was on LH's LHR-HAM-LHR and yes, I were offered a small bread roll too.

Quoting Kretek (Reply 9):
You don't get to see airports in ethnic/cultural style these days, just the modern concrete glass types.

Agreed, especially in Malaysia. All the airports are being upgraded but none of them having this traditionally influenced architecture (with the exception of KBR). I guess it will cost a lot to put on this traditional elements; wood carvings, ornamental pillars and such. Although they look beautiful, they are hard to maintain as well.

Quoting Kretek (Reply 9):
Although, the inside of the airport looks rather dark and old and is in need of improvement.

Couldn't agree more! Watch out for my next trip report. I can show you how "dark" CGK can be.  ghost 


Thank you HB-IWC, Pieter and Kretek for reading my trip report.  wave 


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11266 times:

ThaiA345:
Hi Mr. Kwee,

Quoting ThaiA345 (Reply 10):
I have even yet to venture out of GA for domestic flights!!!

Well, what other choices do I have? GA has pulled out from PNK. I have even enrolled in their FFP and collected miles just before they announced their withdrawal, what a waste! But I guess Batavia and Sriwijaya should be fine.

Quoting ThaiA345 (Reply 10):
Thats actually an upmarket residential area built on reclaimed land, its called Pantai Mutiara

I see. Do you live there?

Quoting ThaiA345 (Reply 10):
Funny how strange is seems where there is no direct flight from PNK to KUL

I think there are not enough demand to start a non stop PNK-KUL flight. When MH used to served PNK, it was done via KCH. I am hoping that AK will consider PNK anyhow. They have served Pekanbaru, Palembang and Padang from Kuala Lumpur. Considering quite a number of Malaysian living and working in Pontianak, a 2x per week non stop service to KUL would be sufficient enough.

Quoting ThaiA345 (Reply 10):
you actually have to detour to CGK.

Actually, the shortest way to get to KUL from PNK is via KCH. But it was 15:00 hours on Sunday, the 7P's flight to KCH on that day had left at 08:00 hours and they don't operate on Monday. Plus I have to be at the office in Kuala Lumpur at 08:00 hours on the next day, so the only option was via CGK. I am not quite fancy returning to KUL via CGK because of the following reasons:

  • It is farther compared to via KCH.
    PNK-CGK = 452 miles, CGK-KUL = 699 miles, Total journey is 1,151 miles.
    PNK-KCH = 130 miles, KCH-KUL = 603 miles, Total journey is 733 miles.
  • Since it's farther, it incurred more time as well. It took me almost 3 hours airborne via CGK compared to only 2 hours 15 minutes via KCH.
  • I don't have to go through the hassle of changing terminals in CGK if I opted for KCH.
  • Longer waiting time in CGK. The waiting time in KCH is lesser due to a lot of connecting flights to KUL, 14x a day service by MH and AK.
  • The MH's ticket CGK-KUL is more expensive than KCH-KUL. The price is quoted in USD and I have to pay by cash through the check in counter (they don't accept credit cards) as there's no way that I can make the flight if I go to MH's ticketing office in World Trade Center in downtown Jakarta to purchase or collect a booked ticket.
  • I have to pay IDR 1.000.000 of fiscal in CGK. I don't have to pay the fiscal whenever I leave PNK for KCH. The amount is equivalent to an airfare of a return journey PNK-KCH-PNK.


Quoting ThaiA345 (Reply 10):
..maybe start up our own airline!!

Are you serious? We should meet up and discuss in details. What should we name our airline? How thrilling!  hyper 




Ryanair!!!:
Ni hau ma Mr. Soh,

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 11):
That sounds like a lot of effort just to sell a scarf but it also seems as if the crew is having a ball of a time.

Or maybe she was trying to seduce me with her catwalk? Could be.  Wink

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 11):
SJ is one of the carriers that seem to be trotting along just fine without a hint of a scandal as yet.

And I hope they will remain that way. Amen.

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 11):
My my... Are those flooded land next to the highway? That is the toll-road that goes past Trisakti University that leads to Semanggi isn't it?

At that time, the flood has yet to attack Jakarta. I think those water containment or pond or whatever it is was always there. If you were on a taxi on your way to downtown Jakarta from CGK, you must have noticed some water containments/ponds next to the expressway.

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 11):
Why didn't you take the shuttle bus?

I was in a hurry (to purchase my connecting flight's ticket) and there was no sight of the bus at that time. I just took the first taxi that stop in front of me.

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 11):
Pretty daring for him to pass out his namecard for that matter.

Maybe he was trying to seduce me as well.  Wink The downside of being a hot guy! Sigh... Big grin

Seriously, I think he was hoping to receive more business from me in the future by doing so.


Thank you Mr. Kwee and Mr. Soh for reading my trip report.  wave 


User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 11222 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 6):
Debonair:
Thank you for reading my trip report. Didn't you?

FOR SURE! JUST FANTASTIC! btw. is there no wall behind the last row of seats and the aft door?

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 6):
Travel Express, operates 2 B732s.

who the hell is this airline? registrations, pictures?

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 6):
Pelita Air, operates 1 turboprop

which one? no longer F28, F100, ARJ 85?

BTW. TOP AIR, still around or gone?


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11200 times:

Debonair:
Good day Debonair,

Quoting Debonair (Reply 14):
is there no wall behind the last row of seats and the aft door?

There is. Look at the photo of the crew jump seat. The wall is at the right. The seats seem too have taken some spaces beyond the wall's size.

Quoting Debonair (Reply 14):
who the hell is this airline? registrations, pictures?

Travel Express? I suppose this is one of the 2 B732s.

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Photo © Teemu Tuuri - FAP



Quoting Debonair (Reply 14):
which one? no longer F28, F100, ARJ 85?

Based on the list I got from Direktorat Alat Angkut, Departemen Perhubungan, as at 1 January 2007, Pelita Air is registered with 4 aircrafts (2 F28 and 2 F100) but they only operate 1 aircraft, don't know which one.

Quoting Debonair (Reply 14):
BTW. TOP AIR, still around or gone?

Based on the same list too, since there are no mention about Top Air, I guess it has gone to the bottom air!


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4742 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11169 times:

For the benefit of our forum members who hail from the otherside of the world and have no idea how SJ looks like, here is a shot of some Sriwijaya's 737-200s which I took sometime last year at CGK's Terminal One... In the distance includes an Expressair and the scandalous Adam Air.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/rainbow_cruiser/100_6817.jpg



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User currently offlineThaiA345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 876 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11158 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 13):
I see. Do you live there?

Hahahah I wish ....actually have a few friends who live there, for me, I live happily in Apartemen Pavilion right in Sudirman. I wish one day I can live in Pantai Mutiara, but on second thoughts, its afterall a reclaimed land done by Indonesian contractors...hrmmm still no confidence in it !! I have been to that area during high tide, and trust me, the sea water is already barely touching the sea wall, so, I guess, no is my answer to living there  Smile

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 13):
Ryanair!!!:
Ni hau ma Mr. Soh,

For someone who is based in S,pore....Mr Soh surely does have a great knowledge of Jkt  Smile eheheh ...even might be better than mine !!... Oh well, I better start finishing off my TR or not it will never get posted, its gonna be another long one with 100+ pics and then after that will have a short CGK-SUB by GA

Adios Amigos !!!!


User currently offlineKretek From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 11137 times:

9MMAR

A Malaysian living in Indo, do you communicate in Malaysian Malay and do you understand Indo?
Do you ever get mixed up or confused with the different vowel pronounciations when they announce flight numbers and gates? For example:

"A" - English, Malay Malaysia pronounced "Eh" as in Exit
Dutch, German, Malay Indo pronounced "Ah" as in Dance

"E" - English, Malay Malaysia pronouced "Ihh" as in Indigo
Dutch, German, Malay Indo pronounced "Eh" as in Exit

"I" - English, Malay Malaysia pronounced as "Ai" as in Ai Ni
- Dutch, German, Malay Indo pronounced as " Ihh"" as in Indigo

At Changi, whenever they announce a gate assignment for an indonesian bound flight they use the English pronounciation

"Sila masuk ke dewan berpisahan Ihhh 52 (E52)" which to an Indo would interpret that as I 52.

Another thing that makes me laugh is Emergency Exit - in Malay Malaysia is pintu kecemasan which in Indo means door of fear,anxiety, worry. Which I suppose is right, because in an emergency situation you are litterally doing that! Just sounds funny to the ear.


User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11119 times:

Ryanair!!!:
Wah, Mr. Soh, 2 photos already! Are you trying to hijack my trip report?  tongue 

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 16):
scandalous Adam Air.

Love the word, "so scandalous"!



ThaiA345:
Hi Mr. Kwee,

Quoting ThaiA345 (Reply 17):
Apartemen Pavilion right in Sudirman.

So you are not affected by the flood. How do you get to work? By helicopter?

Quoting ThaiA345 (Reply 17):
Mr Soh surely does have a great knowledge of Jkt

Of course he is. He got a mistress (a tante) in Jakarta.  shhh  Just kidding!



Kretek:
Good day Kretek,

Quoting Kretek (Reply 18):
A Malaysian living in Indo

Yes, I am.

Quoting Kretek (Reply 18):
do you communicate in Malaysian Malay and do you understand Indo?

I speak in Bahasa Melayu among my Malaysian colleagues and in Bahasa Indonesia with my Indonesian workers.

Quoting Kretek (Reply 18):
Do you ever get mixed up or confused with the different vowel pronounciations when they announce flight numbers and gates?

Yes, during the first 3 months of my stay, but then I got used to it. I am quite good in languages. Now, most Indonesian can't tell than I am a Malaysian if they hear me speak Bahasa Indonesia. Ik kan Nederlands spreken wa atakallam fi lughatul Arabiah aidhan.  cheerful 

Quoting Kretek (Reply 18):
Just sounds funny to the ear.

Indeed. Some of the words totally have different meanings. For instance:

Tewas
Bahasa Melayu: Lost (in a war, football game etc)
Bahasa Indonesia: Die!

Korban
Bahasa Melayu: The person who died (in a war, accident etc)
Bahasa Indonesia: Living victim (of any incident, flood, accident)

Pening
Bahasa Melayu: Dizzy
Bahasa Indonesia: Becomming crazy!

Banci
Bahasa Melayu: Survey
Bahasa Indonesia: A transvestite!

And also the way Indonesian tell the time.

Setengah Sembilan (Half to Nine) would be mistakenly understood by all Malaysian as Sembilan Setengah (half past nine). That would be some of it, among others.  wave 


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8496 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11041 times:
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Very interesting report, many thanks for putting it together.

Quoting 9MMAR (Thread starter):
My ONLY travel document, a IDR 25.000 airport tax receipt. No ticket, no boarding pass.

- I am stunned, just amazing.

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Mark



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User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11039 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 15):
Travel Express? I suppose this is one of the 2 B732s.

this one looks fantastic... I like the clouds in or on the letters!  cloudnine 

well, hope someone will test them soon! chris


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4742 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11026 times:

Quoting ThaiA345 (Reply 17):
For someone who is based in S,pore....Mr Soh surely does have a great knowledge of Jkt

JKT is like my 2nd home.. although I do not admit to knowing a lot about the city! I only go straight to the malls and cafes when I am there like a Tante! Otherwise I can be found lurking around Bandung.

Quoting Kretek (Reply 18):
"Sila masuk ke dewan berpisahan Ihhh 52 (E52)" which to an Indo would interpret that as I 52.

Actually, "E" is pronounced as "aye" similar to the letter "A". It takes a while to get used to but if you want, send me a personal email and I can run down the entire alphabet in Indonesian for you.  Smile

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 19):
Wah, Mr. Soh, 2 photos already! Are you trying to hijack my trip report?

Oooooh... never will I do that to a "hot" guy! I am not worthy...  Smile



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User currently offline9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2107 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 10988 times:

BA319-131:
Hi Mark,

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 20):
I am stunned, just amazing.

As I said, only in Indonesia.  tongue 


Debonair:
Good day Chris,

Quoting Debonair (Reply 21):
this one looks fantastic... I like the clouds in or on the letters!

It may looks good on the eye, but performance and service wise, I have no idea.


Ryanair!!!:

Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 22):
when I am there like a Tante!

ThaiA345, told you so. A tante!  shhh 


Thank you once again to Mark, Chris and Mr. Soh for reading my trip report.  wave 


User currently offlineThaiA345 From Indonesia, joined Oct 2006, 876 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day ago) and read 10988 times:

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 23):
Thank you once again to Mark, Chris and Mr. Soh for reading my trip report

Wahh no need to thank me yah :P eheheheh

Quoting 9MMAR (Reply 23):
ThaiA345, told you so. A tante

Yeap...Mr Soh really loves his tante's, on his next trip to Jkt I will intro him to some hot tante's especially the ones with really huge perm hairs !!!


25 Post contains images Safs : Thanks that was great! To be honest, I had never heard about Sriwijaya before until reading this trip report. Thanks for educating me Safs
26 Kretek : That is because Setengah Sembilan (8:30) is following the Dutch grammar of Half Negen ( = literally "Half nine") whereas in M'sia obviously follow En
27 Post contains images 9MMAR : ThaiA345: I am so sorry but I thought I did. Right? Safs: Hi Safs. You are most welcome. I am glad someone can benefit from my trip report. A bit abou
28 Post contains images SIA fan : Hi 9MMAR, another superb trip report, love the photos too! Too bad the aircraft window was so scratchy otherwise I'm sure the photos would have come o
29 HB-IWC : Not bad. Spijtig dat steeds minder mensen in Indonesie nog Nederlands kunnen spreken. Mijn Nederlands wordt steeds minder vloeiend... tapi bahasa Ind
30 Post contains images 9MMAR : SIA fan: Hi SIA fan, looks like you share the same sentiment as HB-IWC. But I guess, it was a fair deal. Tony gets the money, and I got onboard and sa
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