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User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 14967 times:

I know there are many other LX JFK-ZRH trip reports out there, but it's been a while since a new one was written, so I thought I'd do one myself. It does indeed come with pictures, but because my trusty 10D is far too bulky to be used discreetly in an aircraft, I had to use my crappy Canon A620. The quality is quite poor, hence the asterisk.  Smile

I began my trip by driving four hours north of home, but the extra trip saved me $250 on the ticket and allowed me to fly with Swiss. The drive wasn't difficult, so I didn't mind too much. After a brief tour through the unrelenting craphole that is Queens, New York; I arrived at JFK to a helpful collection of signs. Parking was easily found, and as long as you're okay schlepping your luggage for a little while, access to the check-in area via the SkyTrain (or whatever it's called) is pretty easy.



I arrived at the terminal at 2:00 PM, 30 minutes before it was supposed to open. After taking the above picture, I sat down on a surprisingly comfortable metal bench. BTW the actual Swiss check-in counter is around the left corner of where the picture was taken, but the real one wasn't really that interesting - they didn't even have any Swiss signs on the back wall! After 30 minutes of waiting, LX employees were just trickling in to the LX counter and setting up. I walked up near the entrance of the roped-off area for economy check-in, but I was told to sit back down because they wouldn't be ready until 3:30, apparently because of the early change to daylight savings time. What a poor excuse! Not very Swiss if you ask me...

The check-in itself went fine, aside from the fact that they wouldn't allow me to take my camera bag as a carry-on; I had to check it. Although I would have preferred to take it myself due to the fragility of my camera & laptop, I thought the bag would be sturdy enough to protect them in the hands of even the toughest ramp-rats. Here's a picture of it, with my iPod for comparison:



Security was a breeze, and I was soon in the (surprisingly low-rent) terminal 1.



Some of the more interesting ramp movements:



Aeroflot 762



Maxjet 762



I had heard a while ago that Olympic had gone belly-up, so imagine my surprise when one of their 343s rolled into the gate!

Aside from a bar and a panini shop, there are no places to eat in Terminal 1. If anybody knows the idea behind that, please let me know. Every other airport I've ever been to has had at least 3 or 4 choices.





Please note that this is not the actual aircraft for the flight - this one was going to Geneva. The one I did fly on was tucked behind a wall with no windows, so all I could see of it was the tail.

I boarded around 6:40 PM, and with that the flight began.

LX 017
HB-IQP
Depart JFK: 1920
Arrive ZRH: 0820
Seat: 29D
03.14.2007

The flight appeared to be almost full, and the first thing I noticed was that about 30% of those passengers were Orthodox Jews, dressed in traditional clothing.

We pushed back at 7:20, and the Captain begun by telling us about the wingspan, weight, and power of the A330. Some people find that annoying, but I love to see anyone take that much pride and enjoyment in their work. As usual at JFK there was a line for the runway, but it only took us about 20-30 minutes from pushback to takeoff.

About an hour into the flight, drinks were served, followed by dinner with a choice of beef or pasta. I completely forgot to snap a picture of my pasta dish before eating it, but it was basically a limp tricolor pasta with tomato sauce on one side and alfredo on the other. It was topped with chopped green peppers and a few rubbery mushroom slices that looked as though they'd come from a can. The whole thing was a pretty tasteless affair, but it was served with a warm bun that really wasn't bad. Oh, and on the side was a completely inedible brownie and a side salad. I apologize for not taking a picture, but I only remembered after they had collected the trays. Go to airlinemeals.net if you really need to know what it looks like.  Smile

You must be wondering what sets this meal apart with the kind of thing you'd get on Delta or American, and to be honest, I'd be hard pressed to find a difference. Compared with the decent meals and complimentary Movenpick ice cream of just a few years ago, I was rather disappointed with Swiss. That said, the meals were served with the kind of care and grace that I've yet to see on any American air carrier.

The A330s operated by Swiss have individual screens in the seatback, but they lack a full AVOD system. You can choose your entertainment from a selection of movies, TV shows, and music; but you're not in control of when it comes on. The new A340s have this feature, so I'd expect the system to be upgraded next time the 330 interiors are redone. Also, the screens suffer from miniscule size and low resolution. Pictured below, you can see for yourself.



We hit some extremely light turbulence as we came into the longitudinal domain of Greenland, but it died down in about 20 minutes. I watched "Stranger than Fiction" (bad movie, BTW) then tried to catch some sleep.

After I woke up, I turned on the flight information in the seatback screen and saw that we were at FL 380, which I assumed was our cruising altitude for the trip. We hit a bit of turbulence again as we approached the coast of Ireland, but again, it died down in about 20-30 minutes. I kept the airshow on to track our progress, and during the turbulence, we had climbed to FL 410, probably due to much lighter fuel tanks.

Breakfast was served as we crossed into France, and the drinks followed as soon as the breakfast cart was put away. This time, my marbles were immediately located and I remembered to snap a picture for you people. The only caveat to that is my camera's meter got confused and the picture came out all dark. Since I don't like to use flash in planes, I had to brighten up the picture in Photoshop.



The meal consisted of a warm Croissant, some yogurt, and a little plastic container of orange juice located in the picture under the Croissant. Although it was warm, the Croissant was understandably pretty bad - you really can't keep one for more than a few hours and expect it to maintain its texture. I don't eat yogurt so I can't comment on that, but the orange juice was just awful. I was pretty happy to see that the FAs carried a decent version in their cart, and suffice to say I wasn't surprised to see how popular it was.

The trash from Breakfast was collected, and moist hot towels were passed out. And in case you were wondering, these were real cotton towels - not any paper nonsense.

We started our descent at around 7:30 local Zurich time, and we touched down at 7:52. Yes, that's a full 28 minutes before our scheduled arrival time of 8:20! Guess it kind of makes up for the check-in crew.  silly 

After we arrived at the gate and people were leaving the plane, I asked if I could go to the flight deck to take a couple of pictures. The crew was happy to oblige. The captain was a very nice guy, and he started off with a joke. I asked for the registration as I was leaving, and probably because the cpt. had figured me for an aviation geek, he handed me the load sheet! I thanked him and I was on my way.







Well, that's a wrap! Hope you enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to some ZRH spotting excitement and all the Rivella, Gipfeli, and chocolate I can handle.  biggrin 



P.S. - As luck would have it, my room right now gives me a nice view of the Dubendorf airbase! Too bad it's not active anymore.  Sad




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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21552 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 14930 times:

Excellent report!

Quoting AC773 (Thread starter):
Aside from a bar and a panini shop, there are no places to eat in Terminal 1.

There are, but they are on the upper level above the security checkpoint (before going through it). The intent was for people to not go through security before it's time to go to their gate (T1 being an O&D terminal, there wouldn't be connecting passengers remaining airside), but 9/11 screwed up that kind of thinking.

Even the selection there, however, is not very good - only about three fast food options and a sit-down place. T1 is a major disappointment as far as food goes.

-Mir



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User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 748 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 14910 times:

Great report, but that SU 767 is a -300, not a -200. They do not operate any 762s, and you will notice that it is a bit longer than the Maxjet 762 that you shot. Just an FYI.

User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 14766 times:

Hi!

Very nice report and SWISS crew just like they "used to be"....I also remember ( well before those cockpit visit restrictions.... ) that way back to the 80's I asked one day to visit the cockpit, we were flying from ZRH to LIS in HB-IPD a SR A310-200, and the pilot invited me to seat in the middle seat they had between the pilot's and 1st. officer seat, we chat for around 30 minutes, I asked questions, the crew answered, we passed BELLOW" an LTE 757 and we kept talking, nice people the SR crew, and I think that crew you got identifies the way they are, nice guys and I don't think any other crew would give you that load sheet but I wouldn't be surprised to see these guys doing that!!! That's a great souvenir for you to show to your "grand-children" many years from now!
regards


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26906 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 14379 times:

Hi thanks for the nice report with the photos. Shame their were no cabin shots. I love Swiss as per my TR's but have never flown long haul with them. I hope to fly with them to USA soon.

Also nice to see the OA A340!!!! OA are in bad times at the moment but hopefully they will restructure and be ok . All operations are normal . Thanks for the photo.


User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 14376 times:

AC773 you have posted a great TR!!! It seems that the guys from the Flight-Deck love their jobs.
I was kinda surprised that LX is serving the same missrable breakfast as most other Airlines on the transatlantic sector do.



Have a nice stay in CH: DALelite



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User currently offlineFlyPrivate From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 14305 times:

Great Report!
Do u know if there A330's ( swiss ) have there new updated Business class seats( lie flat ) like they have on the A340?


User currently offlineN864DA From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 259 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 14242 times:

Great report. I agree about the food having gone down to what you would find on US carriers. However, the service is still very good and nice to see they are still handing out the towels. I hope they are still serving the Movenpick ice cream. I don't ever remember them serving it on the redeye flights to Switzerland but always on the outbounds.

N864DA


User currently offline767747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1925 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 14209 times:
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Great report and pictures! I flew out of Terminal 1 back in 2002, and it was nice to see lots of A330's and A340's getting ready for various destinations.


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User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1778 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 14106 times:

Nice report and nice pics of aircraft at T1 JFK

It was a nice touch of the crew to give you the loadsheet

Lee



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User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2016 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13767 times:

Thanks for sharing. I've only flown LX twice, once in Business to Bangkok (from SIN) and the return in Economy. I thought the Business experience is not worth the money (albeit I got a great deal!), but the Economy was OK. Are the seats in the 330 also in that kind of tan color with brown checkered lines? I really like their seats, especially the fabric.

Cheers,
Coal



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3302 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13726 times:
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Quoting FlyPrivate (Reply 6):
Do u know if there A330's ( swiss ) have there new updated Business class seats( lie flat ) like they have on the A340?

No, they don't. Not yet, anyway. Which is sad, because I just went to Switzerland and had enough miles to upgrade, but didn't because of the old business seats in the 332's.

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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2899 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13675 times:

Hi AC and thanks for posting this report. Though I didn't fly LX any more since they went to LH, it's nice to see that their product is apparently still quite good. Good old HB-IQP, I flew it on the same route four years ago, and again ZRH-GVA last year. The thing with the loadsheet was very nice, though...

Quoting CV990 (Reply 3):
That's a great souvenir for you to show to your "grand-children" many years from now!

...it's printed on thermal paper, so the printing will disappear after a few years, I guess. Better make a copy of it if you want to keep it as a souvenir.

Regards, Alex.


User currently offlineFca767 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 1745 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13660 times:

Great Report. It's nice to see a load sheet. Whenever i fly as a pax i like to know everything that is going on in terms of weights and fuel and things. I dont really like being just a passenger not knowing what runway or what the weather is like.

I left JFK on December 26th and it was the first time i had a wireless laptop so i hooked up to an executive clubs wireless and checked the weather.


It's nice that you posted it o quickly  Smile


User currently offlineAlphafloor From Chile, joined Jun 2004, 1277 posts, RR: 40
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 13570 times:

Very good report AC773! Nice to hear some technical specs given by the cpt before take-off, I can't understand how people are annoyed by this talkning though. Thanks for sharing your experience with us !

Regards. -Alejandro



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User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13291 times:

Thanks for your interesting report. The food on Swiss was always really bad and it seems to have gotten even worse in the past year. Continental is just as bad and they compete with them to Geneva from NYC. I avoid both if I can.

User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13183 times:

great report! very interesting what the belly load is like on regular pax flights Big grin

User currently offlineThereAndBack From Turkey, joined Aug 2005, 699 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13132 times:

Nice report thanks for posting. I know what you mean about there being not many food options at T1 I went hungry for about two hours. I also hate that gate that blocks the view of the plane usually TK or OA and sometimes AF have that gate.

User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 13025 times:

Thanks for the kind comments everyone!  bigthumbsup 

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
Hi thanks for the nice report with the photos. Shame their were no cabin shots.

Yes, I'm sorry about that. I thought about taking one, but it's near impossible to take one when all the cabin lights are turned out. I could have taken one near the beginning or end of the flight when the lights were on, but that would have meant getting in the way of the crew or any passengers that were in line for the restroom. It's a very bland-looking cabin (If I didn't know better, I'd have no clue it was LX), and there are plenty of shots of it in the A.net database.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 16):
great report! very interesting what the belly load is like on regular pax flights

Yeah, I enjoyed that myself. I joke that it seems they're importing the mice and the specimen to kill them with.  Wink



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User currently offlineMSNYX From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 12756 times:

Thanks for the report. I'm taking LX9 this week and am really looking forward to it. I hope my experience goes as well as yours did.


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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 12627 times:

Quoting FlyPrivate (Reply 6):
Do u know if there A330's ( swiss ) have there new updated Business class seats( lie flat ) like they have on the A340?

The A 330 are not yet updated. But as I heard they will begin this year with the new business class and new IFE (with AVOD). Probably SandroZRH can tell us more as his father works for SRTechnics.


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12370 times:

Great TR, it's always nice to see TR's featuring LX, but that goes without saying Big grin

Quoting DALelite (Reply 5):
I was kinda surprised that LX is serving the same missrable breakfast as most other Airlines on the transatlantic sector do.

That's because catering for the return leg is done in JFK, they don't bring their catering for the return flight themselves (hence no Ice Cream etc.). I've always experienced that, on the outbound flights, the food is excellent, while it is bad on the return flight. A real shame but there's not much LX can do about it.

Quoting ZRH (Reply 20):
The A 330 are not yet updated. But as I heard they will begin this year with the new business class and new IFE (with AVOD). Probably SandroZRH can tell us more as his father works for SRTechnics.

I'll try to find out more tonight.


User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12351 times:

It is wrong to blame JFK catering on the lousy food SWISS serve from the USA. The reason for this is cost cutting. I flew last week on Iberia from JFK to Madrid and the food was fantastic for both dinner and breakfast.

As to the lousy breakfast on SWISS even that has been cut. They used to serve a croissant and a roll and would immediately offer seconds. The roll has gone and it seems the second helpings have also gone. They also now copy the US airlines by offering lettuce as a starter. They also used to serve from the USA a decent cake, though it was tiny. To save money they now serve their traditional chocolate brownie catered from the USA as they can save a few more pennies.


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12342 times:

Quoting Semsem (Reply 22):

Then i wonder why their food on the outbound flights has always been excellent. Well, whatever, if yo uwant to bash LX, fine. Everybody else seems to love swiss judging form the numerous TR's on this website.


User currently offlineBimmerkid19 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 11713 times:

Quoting AC773 (Thread starter):
e handed me the load sheet! I thanked him and I was on my way.

Hmm.. i noticed on the load sheet that they were transporting Live mice.. lol and also dry ice... funny.


25 Bofredrik : I appreciate your report! People can say a lot of Swiss and their service but i would feel safe on a SR flight.[Edited 2007-03-21 17:29:20]
26 Semsem : I have no interest in bashing Swiss. I have seen the airline gradually cutting their catering to a bear minimum on the GVA to JFK route ever since the
27 RockyRacoon : AC773, so the amentities aren't too great in economy? I am trying to decide who I will be flying to muc on this summer. I am considering LX and want t
28 Bimmerkid19 : fly on LH.. they have good food service... i just flew with LH again on march 13th from IAD to FRA the service onboard was great
29 Post contains images SandroZRH : While everybody else is afraid that LX will step their service down to LH level follwing the merger, hmmmm
30 Post contains images AC773 : Well, I flew back yesterday. Sandro said the catering would be better, but I didn't really know to what degree. The only thing I have to say is wow! C
31 Post contains images SandroZRH : So I didnt promise too much after all My pleasure, too bad weather wasnt on our side and that we kinda ran out of time in the end, but it wasn't that
32 Post contains images AC773 : You say that, but it could have been much worse. I was trainspotting in Bassersdorf friday morning - good place for it BTW because of all the "heavie
33 Semsem : The ice cream used to be served between the lunch and the snack which was a nice touch. The snack used to consist of good sandwiches and they used to
34 SandroZRH : The Ice Cream was served, did you actually read his return trip report? Look, if you're so desperate to bash LX, start a new thread, and just dont fl
35 BA319-131 : Nice report, thanks. - Did you have another bag then for them not to allow you 2? - If not, that's quite odd!! Rgds Mark
36 Post contains images Bimmerkid19 : ? Please elaborate? I feel that LH has good Service, compared to other Airlines. BA is sliding rather fast.. VS, although good... has been sliding to
37 LXA340 : Does LH serve Ice Cream on their day flights to North America i eg FRA / MUC - JFK) n either Business or Economy CLass Mid FLight or aynthing else lik
38 ANITIX87 : Great report! I love reading about LX trips, makes me want to go back to Switzerland, haha. Few comments... Are you sure? I was under the impression (
39 LXA340 : Nevertheless the Seats on the A332's are still better compared to what you would find on LY^s B762's and B744's where the seats are from the last cen
40 Post contains images SandroZRH : Don't even try guys. Bashing LX has been Semsem's hobby for months. I really wonder what they've done to him. He was probably turned down by an LX F/
41 LXA340 : True, it's hopeless...no wonder if he complained as much to her as he does here...LOL
42 Christao17 : Very nice report. "Live mice" on the load sheet, eh? Interesting.
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