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Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'  
User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

Well, finally my holiday in Thailand had come to an end, and it was time to fly back to the UK, this time on Qantas (the inward trip was on BA). Date, 25th June 2001 - scheduled departure 00.30.

Imagine my surprise when the airport bus turned up at the Qantas 744 in WUNALA DREAMING colourscheme. It actually looks nicer up close than in the photos, although if you ask me I'm not the greatest fan of this scheme.

Anyway, I was seated in seat 61 H, by the window towards the rear of the A/C. Fisrst impressions of the cabin was that it was noticeably inferior to that of BA. No PTV, no footrest, and tatty seats weren't all that impressive compared to the inward flight on BA. Still, a cabin is not the be all and end all, so I took my seat, and we pushed back about 5 minutes late (00.35).

Rotation was prompt, and a nice view of Bangkok at night was seen from my window. We headed up to a cruising altitude of 37,000 feet, and the route took us over Myanmar, India Afghanistan, various ex-Soviet states, Russia, Latvia, passing underneath Scandinavia before heading down towards the Netherlands, then descending into the UK.

Dinner was served about 2 hours after rotation, it was a choice of Chicken with vegetables or Spaghetti in a tomato-based sauce. Accompanying was a Thai-style Somtam salad (spicy papaya salad) and a dessert of a type of egg custard flan. I had the chicken. The food was okay, but paled into insignificance compared to BA's offerings. Still, the BA food was prepared at its home airport of LHR, whereas QF's food was done by Thai caterers, so I cannot leap to any conclusions based on that.

Breakfast was a choice of tropical fruit, or a vegetable quiche (I opted for the quiche - again it was so-so)

There was a 'Movie Marathon' on offer, but as this prevented the Route and statistics map being shown on the screen, I was a bit annoyed by this. For me, the major advantage of PTV is the fact that you can keep the Airshow on your screen at all times.

The flight was absolutely packed, and subsequently the cabin was a bit noisy, with the Aussies being the major culprits! The BA flight was only about half full, so obviously was quieter for this reason.

Okay, so far I have talked about areas in which Qantas needs to catch up a bit, but there were some nice touches too. The F/A's were in my opinion, excellent, very friendly. BA's F/A's were very efficient, but quite aloof (very British) whereas the Qantas F/A's were very approachable and smiling. Drinks could have been offered more frequently (BA came around every 30 minutes with drinks), but you have to consider here that the QF flight was packed and the BA flight was 50% full.

Another nice touch was the fact that on the QF F/A's name badges there is a flag indicating the foreign language(s) spoken by that attendant. This is a great idea in my opinion, and shows a degree of thoughtfulness on the part of the airline towards it's passengers.

Another nice touch was the presentation movie on the destination, showing all the good areas in London and the UK etc - again this shows a great degree of thoughtfulness towards pax.

We landed around 2 minutes later than scheduled (06.32 UK time), and after a flight of around 12 hours we deplaned.


Final thoughts. At the moment, if you want good food, PTV and a nice cabin, take BA's New World Traveller - it absolutely smashes Qantas away in this respect. However, Qantas is believed to be undergoing cabin modernisation in it's 744 fleet shortly, so this argument may not be valid for long.

What Qantas does have going for it is a very friendly, unpretentious Flight Crew, and this counts for a lot in my opinion. Okay, so it is clear that as things stand, BA is the better airline at the moment, but I look forward to trying Qantas' new 744 cabins in the near future, to see the difference.


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
28 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4936 times:

Great trip report..
Hey you noticed the bad food aswell huh! I have had bad food on Qantas everytime i have flown them, though i do love there FA's and there service is very good!!

Don't you just hate there FA uniform though?? So ugly!!!

Also, Why don't you like the C/S?? It is awesome!! I wish AirNZ did something like that!!

Have a great day,
Mikey


User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4910 times:

Very nice report! A+
I too totaly agree with you about BA & QF There's some major differances that need to be sorted on QF. But the FA's are pretty good. One thing: I swear Wunala Dreaming is a B747-300, could be wrong but in all the pics i can remember one thing, no winglits!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Regards
Dan



Dan Valentine - Bad Ass MOFO Photographer
User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4904 times:

You're thinking of 'Nalanji Dreaming'. Wunala was definitely a 744!


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4896 times:

O yeah whoops!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
just remembered! LOL
Cheers



Dan Valentine - Bad Ass MOFO Photographer
User currently offlineTbone202 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4930 times:

Hey,
Very nice trip report! Could you tell me more about the British Airways economy (whatever they call them) seats in their 744's? Do they have PTV's? Comfortable?
Thanks, and looking foward to your response.

Travis


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4888 times:

Here is the link for my trip repost on the outward flight on BA.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/9572/



I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineSwiss-airplane From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 591 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4878 times:

Great your trip report. I enjoyed you reading your story. I would like to fly to Australia soon, this or next year, but I don't know which airline I will take. All of my choices are good airliens, BA, QF, MH, CX, ANZ and lots more.
Greetings
Mike


User currently offlineBA747-436 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1259 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

If your going economy or Business, basicaly iff your going at all, go either British Airways or Cathay Pacific. Obviously the best choices for going to Australia. You will go to Hong Kong with Cathay Pacific and the to Australia on a A340 probebley or with British Airways to Singapore and then to Australia on B744.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Your choice, both excellent airlines.



Dan Valentine - Bad Ass MOFO Photographer
User currently offlineQantasAirways From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1278 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4840 times:

Great report.
I really enjoyed it.
I guess your right, QF cant be blamed for catering from BKK.
Hope you try it agian when there is an upgrade

Regards
QantasAirways



Spirit of Australia
User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2391 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4847 times:

You'll be glad to know that VH-OJE, the first Qantas aircraft with PTVs throughout, should be winging its way to Heathrow as you read these words Smile/happy/getting dizzy.
I have yet to see the new interior however I understand it is quite impressive.
As for the food, well, it's hard to cater for hundreds of different people, normally one should limit intake to the bare minimum anyway.
I'm glad that Wunala appeared for you Ryan, what timing!


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

Thanks for all the replies guys!


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineQantasAirways From Australia, joined Mar 2001, 1278 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4822 times:

WHAT????
Has Qantas released the 744 with PTV's yet?




Spirit of Australia
User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4822 times:

Are you sure??
I heard from a Sorce within Qantas that the plane has not been released yet, ad it is still in the hanger... There was a problem and it is now not getting rleased till early July!!

Well maybe you could be right. My source is currently in BNE!!

Have a great Day
mikey


User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4821 times:

Are you sure??

I heard from my source within Qantas that it is not getting released till July due to some problems!!

My source is currently in BNE so i will; haev to talk to him when he gets back!!

Cheers
mikey


User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2391 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4800 times:

That's quite a stutter Mikey!
The aircraft's release will not be huge news, as the last thing wanted is for every passenger on every flight to be expecting PTVs when there is only ONE aircraft on line. This news came from the engineers at LHR expecting the aircraft for training, however it is still aviation so it may have changed since!


User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4772 times:

Cheers AJ!!

Thanks lot!

Mikey


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4747 times:

Great trip report. I can see that you enjoyed the flight despite the shortcomings of QF in you mind. I just flew on BA this week and I noticed that the F/A's badges do feature flags suggestive of foreign languages which they speak. Perhaps BA has caught onto QF's lead in this regard.

Again, a lovely report.

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6220 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

Great trip report , you were extremely lucky to fly on Wunala Dreaming.

Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Frank Schaefer


Chepos
Puerto Rico



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4740 times:

The flags on the name tags is not just unique to QF or BA as long as i can remember flying to asia the F/A's on United had flags representing the language they spoke.


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4712 times:

I took 2 pictures of Wunala at LHR on Tuesday 19 June 2001. If I get access to a scanner (which I have never had as yet) I will attempt to post them here (along with other great photos).

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineBruneiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4688 times:

Whats wrong with the QF FA uniform ? Which one do you mean ??

I think that QF and BA are trying to get very smilar in thier Y and F classes.

If you look at their (QFs) webpage they advertises them as the same

Bit weird that their business classes are different though.

Oh almost forgot  Smile GREAT REPORT


Havn't flown QF International for a while (I now use Royal Brunei)


PS. Have you flown SQ, if so would you rate BA over SIA and if your A/C had the upgrade would SIA be better ?

Thanx


User currently offlineTrentis From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

Nice report! Air New Zealand have the flags on the badges too.

User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4676 times:

I'm glad you liked the Qantas crew. There are some good crews around but in my experience they are few and far between. It is sad to see fellow Australians being so haughty and pretentious and it doesn't fit in with the F/A role.

I flew QF SIN-ADL 2 days ago and was appalled by the poor state of the cabin. I thought all the 767s had had the cabin refit but I assure you this one hadn't. The food was also poor, and with so many flights out of SIN, QF ought to be able to have a certain amount of control on the quality out of there.

Anyway, glad YOU enjoyed the flight. I'm envious that you flew the "flying bloodclot" however.


User currently offlineBenny B From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (13 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4656 times:

Great report

The flight you were on was QF1 was it not?

Always wanted to fly on this flagship service of our national airline, or the 'Kangaroo Route' as it is known.

Flew between Australia and Europe over ten years ago with SQ and MH (Back then they were using 747-200s and you had to make a refuelling stop in Dubai). Can't wait to fly on the 744.

Never flown QF on International routes. Heard many bad reports about the food though. Sounds as if they need to get their act together.

Best regards
Benny B
Australia


25 Post contains images Ryanb741 : BennyB. The flight was QF1 (codeshare BA 7311), and it was nice to get to fly on the legendary Wunala Dreaming! Bruneiair - I have flown SQ in Y and J
26 BruneiAir : Unfortunatly Emirates doesn't fly into Darwin, but when i fly to UK I will fly with Royal Brunei, They don't have PTVs but you dont miss what you have
27 Demoose : I'm flying to Bangkok on Emirates a week Friday from Manchester via Dubai. (Economy - but i ain't complaining. Maybe after my 20hr journey I will be,
28 EGGD : Funny isn't it, how flying the same route you can get totally different experiences. Flying to and from LHR last year i was with BA, where their seats
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