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PDX-MSP-GFK On NWA/Mesaba  
User currently offlineIflyKPDX From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 287 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4731 times:

PDX-MSP - NWA - 757-200 - N509US

Purpose of this trip was to visit the UND campus and see their aviation program. But the best part was, of course, getting to fly there Big grin

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Our first leg of the somewhat long (for me) journey began with finding out our original plane, which had been a 753 was going to be late coming in from Hawaii and so they'd substituted a -200. Of course, being smaller, many passengers were going to be bumped, and we were offered free tickets to give up our seats. Unfortunately, we would've missed our connection to GFK, and no other flights were available that day, so we declined.

The service onboard was the usual; I've begun to notice how some flight attendants really stand out from the rest by just being cheerful and more willing to make sure everyone has a good experience (I realize of course that even the best FAs have their off days  Wink ). I don't know who her name was, but she was one person I felt really belonged in a customer service type job. Anywho, I luckily was able to change my seat when checking in online (it had previously been a middle seat, no thanks!) and got a window. Unfortunately, as the flight was full there was little room with both aisle and middle seats filled by somewhat big gentlemen. Though the legroom of course left something to be desired, and I was fairly squeezed in, the window made it much more bearable.

I've only been through MSP once before, about 4 years ago, and I honestly couldn't remember a thing about it. Arriving at concourse G, my dad and I were just delighted to find we'd get to run to concourse C to catch our connection to GFK, which left about 20 minutes after we landed. After dashing through MSP, we made it with about 10 minutes to spare, so I'm glad there wasn't any weather!

MSP-GFK - NWA - DC-9-50

First time on a -9, and lucky me, I got 25-A. For those not familiar with the D95 layout that's right next to the port engine, so I pretty much couldn't hear a thing the entire flight  boggled , a short one, fortunately.

GFK, which dubs itself "international" has a somewhat misleading name sizewise, seeing as it has just Gate 1 and Gate 2. The entire terminal fills completely up when there's a departing/just arriving flight, but for first-timers at least it's small...

GFK-MSP - Mesaba/NW Airlink - Saab 340 - N441XJ

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Somewhat longer than the previous flight, the 340 had a much more bearable sound level, and though there was some turbulence getting into MSP, it was fairly uneventful. The only FA, however, seemed to be somewhat confused on the concept of transmitting devices, as when I asked her if she could find out what gates that flight and our next flight would be using, she suggested I use my computer to look it up online... (She herself admitted she didn't know very much about computers, but her QoS was similar to the previous attendant mentioned, really attentive and on the ball (though she did somewhat neglect to mention to watch my head as I walked in until after I'd whacked it against the ceiling...)). Oddly it took about 15 minutes once we'd pulled up to the gate until we actually started deplaning, so much for a quicker turnaround, I suppose. After another wonderful dash across the terminal, we got to our final plane.

MSP-PDX - NWA - 757-200 - N516US

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MSP must have a thing about keeping people on planes for long periods of time before and after they depart/arrive. After the boarding doors had been closed, it took about 20 minutes to actual departure, though I think it was due to lots of baggage being loaded.

Apologies for the poor quality, got a bad window ><...



Once again, I was able to get a window seat, and conversed with a dead-heading pilot about going into commercial av. Also, joy of joys, the middle seat was unoccupied, which makes for much easier laptop-usage and spreading out.

Conclusion

Got many pictures, though I regret missing an op for a better shot of a 744. The campus visit went pretty well, and aside from being in the middle of NOWHERE, the aviation department at UND is really world class from what I can tell, and I know I'll be happy with that. Their fleet is also great looking, and aside from their (repurchased) Cessna 150 (their first AC, which they're restoring) are all practically brand new. According to our guide, they're getting some new Adam Jets soon! Hope my scheduling all works out, since I don't really think we can afford another $1500 to fly/stay here again in June...

P.S. Can't wait for the PDX meetup! (Still 6/23 right?)


Airport Management - UND
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User currently offlineAf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2688 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4452 times:

It looks like there is a bird next to the plane in the video, or maybe thats just the window?


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User currently offlineUAXDXer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Nice report .. good luck with UND!


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User currently offlineUNDAEROSPACE From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4062 times:

Well good trip report first of all, and let me tell you UND is really a great aviation school you have to work hard to get things accomplished here. Also on the note of the jet their supposed to be recieving its a Eclipse Jet that was supposed to be deliverd sometime in January but it hasnt arrived yet. It will be used for charter flights from what ive heard.

User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

The Eclipse got cancelled awhile ago, mainly because the airplane isn't IFR certified yet. Not sure if they switched to the Adam jet except that would be cool cause its manufactured on my home airport. I was out there all saturday and sunday giving safety briefings and doing ramp patrols. I took some pictures of the Saab while it was sitting on the ramp, and one of the rampers that I know were chatting about it. Played around inside the 150 a little bit, I'm gonna do whatever I can to fly that thing, its a piece of history...except it is a 50 year old cessna and it definetly smells like it.

User currently offlineUNDAEROSPACE From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3851 times:

Thats news to me I still heard that they were still expecting the Ecpise Jet but it doesnt matter to me im ATC

User currently offlineGraphic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

We ditched the eclipse jet options because it was supposed to be here in January but Eclipse hasn't exactly been punctual with it. I asked about the Adam, and apparantly UND has been shopping around other VLJ aircraft providors, so I guess that means that Adam's A700, HondaJet, Embraer, and the Citation Mustang are all candidates.

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21620 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3638 times:

Quoting Graphic (Reply 6):
apparantly UND has been shopping around other VLJ aircraft providors, so I guess that means that Adam's A700, HondaJet, Embraer, and the Citation Mustang are all candidates.

I hope the D-Jet isn't getting excluded. That thing would make a great training jet.

-Mir



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3531 times:
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Quoting IflyKPDX (Thread starter):
GFK, which dubs itself "international" has a somewhat misleading name sizewise, seeing as it has just Gate 1 and Gate 2.

The term "International" in this context has nothing to do with the size of airport. Due to the proximity of GFK to the Canadian border it handles a number of cross border flights - therefore it has customs available and is considered an "International" airport.



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User currently offlineIflyKPDX From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3508 times:

I do realize that. There's just a cultural stigma that "international" = "big".


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User currently offlineSiouxATC From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3452 times:

Always good to see a report from little old GFK. Hope you liked the campus. I will be attending UND this fall as an ATC student.

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