Juanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 773 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3575 times:
What routes would Southwest need the 737-700ER? Maybe they want to start some Hawaiian routes. The 737-700 has the range for routes to Mexico and Canada from their Hubs.
Ikramerica From United States, joined May 2005, 15004 posts, RR: 44 Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3536 times:
The 73G can go anywhere they fly or would think of flying right now, including Hawaii from LAS, LAX, OAK, SJC. Not sure what value the 73GER offers to them unless they are looking to fly to Europe...
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
AirTranTUS From , joined today!, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3474 times:
Quoting WN230 (Reply 4): Maybe they are looking to serve ANC seasonally?
The normal 73G can definately do that on its own. AS does it just fine. Also remember that the 73GER takes a fair amount of cargo space away for extra fuel tanks. The only route WN could use an A/C like that on would be BWI-ANC, but that is totally against their business plan. Not many would fly it unless these 73GER's came w/ meals and IFE for such a long flight. Going to Europe is also against their current business plan. Changing their plan would be more important news than an airplane with extra fuel tanks.
And the thread starter said it's a rumor. I'm leaning toward ?? on this.
Edit: Some research reveals that cargo capacity would decrease from 996 cu. ft. w/o aux. tanks to 165 cu. ft. with the 9 aux. tanks. That would be 3x4x13.75. I do not believe that is enough for 138 passengers. The 73GER also has the stronger wings and gear of the 738, but the same engines. I don't know if they use different parts, but if they did, it would increase complexity in their shops. Range is increased by 2/3 to 5510 nm. That amount of range from PHX would allow nonstops to NRT, LHR, all of S. America, and Moscow. If WN were to ever operate flights like these (they seem content with how they are now), they would likely look into a larger A/C.
OPNLguy From United States, joined Jun 1999, 12359 posts, RR: 72 Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3410 times:
Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 5): And the thread starter said it's a rumor. I'm leaning toward on this.
Myself also, and while it may be a rumor at Boeing, it's not one that I've heard around here. The standard -700 shows a 3,365nm range, and it takes 9 optional fuel tanks to reach the max 5,510nm they show for the -700ER, so I don't think we'd want to sacrifice bin space for even a couple of tanks just to get a little more range.
As usual, time will tell....
Carelessness and overconfidence are usually far more dangerous than deliberately accepted risks.
COERJ From United States, joined Dec 2005, 225 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2390 times:
The ER could make flights to Hawaii and Alaska from the East Coast, (BWI, PHL, TPA, MCO, etc.) I really dont see much use for it unless they wanted to go intercontinental which I really dont see happening
FlyLKU From United States, joined Apr 2006, 199 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1929 times:
Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 5): Edit: Some research reveals that cargo capacity would decrease from 996 cu. ft. w/o aux. tanks to 165 cu. ft. with the 9 aux. tanks. That would be 3x4x13.75.
Are you saying that all of the checked bags for 138 people have to fit in that space?! If so, that'll never work.
Side note: I've noted a relationship between route length and the size of passenger's bags: the longer the flight, the bigger the bags, until it appears that grandma and the kids must be inside them... or is it just me?
RL757PVD From United States, joined Dec 1999, 2578 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1858 times:
would the 737-700ER be capable of translantic flights without significant weight restrictions?
There are alot fo mid-sized markets that can support translantic flights if there was an aircraft in the 757 or smaller dept that had the legs to do it.
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
Sinlock From United States, joined Dec 2000, 1427 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1836 times:
Is there any chance that Boeing is going to add the flat pressure bulkhead to the 700ER. I would think that WN would make use of extra seats before more range.
AirWillie6475 From United States, joined Jan 2005, 2429 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1496 times:
Quoting SWABFA (Thread starter): BIG RUMOR @ BOEING THIS WEEK... THAT WILL MAKE THEM THE LAUNCH CUSTOMER IN AMERICA (ANA IS THE LAUNCH CUSTOMER WORLDWIDE).
Straight from Boeings 737ER site: The airplane's versatility, low operating costs and range performance can serve all new airline business requirements including low-cost carriers that wish to expand their market reach across the Atlantic Ocean and traditional carriers that wish to compete in niche markets such as all-premium-class service.
Does that sound like a description of WNs conservative business plan?
Silver1SWA From United States, joined Mar 2004, 2085 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 638 times:
Oh boy... Anyone catch who the OP is? How many accounts does this guy have? There goes all serious consideration for this rumor... Â
Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 10): Are you saying that all of the checked bags for 138 people have to fit in that space?! If so, that'll never work.
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Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 10): Side note: I've noted a relationship between route length and the size of passenger's bags: the longer the flight, the bigger the bags, until it appears that grandma and the kids must be inside them... or is it just me?