DeltaFFinDFW From United States, joined Sep 2003, 1212 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6379 times:
Not a real surprise....
Northwest spokesman Roman Blashoski told me that "Northwest has decided that the LaGuardia slots allocated to the DFW service would be better utilized in our key Heartland markets, and as a result we have now assigned the LGA slots to provide new nonstop services to Des Moines, Iowa; Flint, Mich.; and Madison, Wis."
Paladin87 From United States, joined Jun 2007, 122 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6367 times:
Sxf24 From United States, joined Aug 2007, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted Sat Aug 18 2007 02:32:13 your local time (1 week 6 days 14 hours 32 minutes ago) and read 496 times:
All flights are zeroed out - appears to be canceled before it even stared.
Never made sense in the first place. Taking on AA at DFW is not likely to pay in any case, but choosing LGA of all places! AA was guaranteed to defend that market at all costs.
Makes me wonder if they were they serious or was it a bizarre market ploy?
Jcavinato From United States, joined Jan 2005, 432 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6299 times:
Yeah, it would have been only O-D traffic, whereby AA gets a lot of on-going traffic on those flights. When arriving at DFW on them, it seems the F/A goes on forever with connection information. And, sometimes it's to some seemingly out of the way destination: SEA, SFO, SJU, and others.
SkyyMaster From , joined today!, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 6299 times:
Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 2): Makes me wonder if they were they serious or was it a bizarre market ploy?
It probably sounded good to someone on paper, but someone smarter obviously figured it out. Even had they gone through with it, it wouldn't have lasted a month.
Floridaflyboy From United States, joined Jun 2006, 1502 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6285 times:
Quoting Jcavinato (Reply 3): When arriving at DFW on them, it seems the F/A goes on forever with connection information. And, sometimes it's to some seemingly out of the way destination: SEA, SFO, SJU, and others.
Ummh, yes, this is because DFW is AA's largest hub. It's designed to be that way.
It absolutely made sense when you understand that AA had announced MSP-LGA. Neither one makes sense by themselves but once one was done, the other makes sense. What is more important is that NW decided that it would be better to flight AA in markets where they do have brand loyalty such as Flint, Des Moines and Madison than to use those slots in a market they cannot control simply for retaliatory reasons. The "old" NW probably wouldn't have come to their senses.
LAXdude1023 From United States, joined Sep 2006, 3085 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6038 times:
Quoting TeamAmerica (Reply 2): Makes me wonder if they were they serious or was it a bizarre market ploy?
This is what I think. It was flat out boneheaded to do in the first place. Taking on AA at DFW??? No way!!!
Quoting Stapleton (Reply 7): It absolutely made sense when you understand that AA had announced MSP-LGA. Neither one makes sense by themselves but once one was done, the other makes sense.
Honestly I think NW tried to play "Chicken" with AA and lost. NW blinked first. But honestly I think its for the best. NW can make better use of the planes and slots elsewhere.
To be honest I saw this coming from the moment they announced it.
Stapleton From United States, joined Nov 2006, 222 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5983 times:
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 9): Honestly I think NW tried to play "Chicken" with AA and lost. NW blinked first. But honestly I think its for the best. NW can make better use of the planes and slots elsewhere.
This is the game airlines play. AA serving MSP-LGA makes no more sense than NW serving DFW-LGA. My take would be that NW figured this out. The thing about the game of chicken is that most of the time, it is better not to play it at all. Let the other guy be stupid.
PanAm747 From United States, joined Feb 2004, 3903 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5773 times:
Quote: AA serving MSP-LGA makes no more sense than NW serving DFW-LGA.
Actually, the NYC area has a VERY large number of loyal AAdvantage members, so American's LGA-MSP is not aimed primarily at Minnesota travellers, but at New York travellers heading for the Twin Cities.
As for DFW-LGA on NW, there was a VERY long debate on this:
NWAA330 From United States, joined Jun 2003, 192 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5695 times:
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 9): Honestly I think NW tried to play "Chicken" with AA and lost. NW blinked first. But honestly I think its for the best. NW can make better use of the planes and slots elsewhere.
To be honest I saw this coming from the moment they announced it.
LGA777 From United States, joined Jul 2003, 928 posts, RR: 16 Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5550 times:
Since there appears to be no press release yet and I just wasted 15 mins trying to check schedules on NW's crappy website with no luck anyone know will these routes be CRJ, Mainline, or perhaps Compass ? Personally I could not imagine doing DSM-LGA in a 50 seat CRJ.
FURUREFA From United States, joined Feb 2004, 473 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5520 times:
Quoting Jcavinato (Reply 3): When arriving at DFW on them, it seems the F/A goes on forever with connection information. And, sometimes it's to some seemingly out of the way destination: SEA, SFO, SJU, and others.
If an F/A reads a destination of the connection list, that means a passenger is traveling to that destination on your flight. I've heard a HPN connection on a LGA-ORD flight (probably a mileage runner).
TOLtommy From United States, joined Dec 2003, 2181 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5365 times:
Quoting LGA777 (Reply 17): anyone know will these routes be CRJ, Mainline, or perhaps Compass ? Personally I could not imagine doing DSM-LGA in a 50 seat CRJ.
Mainline?
The flights are competing with Eagle. They'll be CRJ's
Its really a shame that NW is opening these markets purely out of spite. TOL has almost $1 MILLION in grant money for NYC service. In a market they'd have to themselves, yet we can't get the service.
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