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TAP A310 Low Pass At Portugal Air Show  
User currently offlineAF2323 From France, joined Aug 2007, 58 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 21084 times:

I wanted to share with you some videos of an Airbus A310 low pass at Portugal Airshow this week end.

I find it pretty impressive, especially when the plane is turning, the wing tip seems VERY close to the ground... what do you think?
The 3 clips are 3 different views of the same moment.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=et4AutqDPVo
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=0RxYSYliCFY
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=BWdDHGEMQ2Q

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User currently offlineCybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 318 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 21058 times:

Gosh!!! Just love it!. You're right the moment when the plane makes the left turn is just breathless!.
Good job!

Tavo


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User currently offlineKPDX From United States, joined Dec 2005, 1492 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 20965 times:

Thats amazing! Amazing in a stupid way though, did they not realize how low they were? I cant think of any other reasons.... That could of hurt other people. Otherwise....SWEET  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2283 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 20950 times:

Very cool videos! The wing is a bit too close for comfort  crazy 

Thanks for the gasps,

AF340


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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States, joined Apr 2000, 6249 posts, RR: 61
Reply 4, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 20937 times:
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Wow, really great capture. I never liked the smaller airbuses but over the years have really taken a liking to the a310. Great to see this one perform like an r/c plane!


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User currently offlineEarlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 20938 times:

nice to look at for enthusiasts.

a horror for the professional. absolutely unsafe operation.

User currently offlineJRDC930 From United States, joined Jan 2007, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 20908 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 2):
Thats amazing! Amazing in a stupid way though, did they not realize how low they were? I cant think of any other reasons.... That could of hurt other people. Otherwise....SWEET

They are commercial pilots at an organized Airshow, with a multi-milion dollar aircraft, i think they know what they were doing.


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User currently offlineEarlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 20883 times:

Quoting JRDC930 (Reply 6):
They are commercial pilots at an organized Airshow, with a multi-milion dollar aircraft, i think they know what they were doing

comercial pilots are not trained to do airshows

User currently offlineFVTu134 From Russia, joined Aug 2005, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 20761 times:

I think if the PIC would have a look at these video's he would probably admit that that was a bit to close. I also do not mind to see airliners doing flypasts at airshows but there is no sense in trying to be the lowest flying in an airliner. Would have been smarter to pull up and then turn. This was just plain reckless... even if it was a veteran flyer... This guy just wasn't thinking

FUTu134


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User currently offlineAF2323 From France, joined Aug 2007, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 20709 times:

I also think that this kind of stunt, so close to the ground, shouldn't be done with an airliner.

The wing is no more than a few meters from the ground... scary  frown  .

User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2605 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 20683 times:

When I saw the first video the first thing that popped into my mind was what the hell was this bloke thinking?  Wow!

Like various other members have suggested it is a breath taking stunt, but at the same time very stupid.

Regards,
Wings


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 9911 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 20648 times:

WOW amazing videos , thanks for sharing.

User currently offlineKrisYUL From , joined today!, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 20638 times:

Ah, the wonders of Airbus FBW.

No sane pilot would do a stunt that he knew was over the pale - after all, the first one to die in a crash would be him!

(And, no - the pilot in the B-52 crash was apparently not particularly sane...)

User currently offlineAF2323 From France, joined Aug 2007, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 20616 times:

Quoting KrisYUL (Reply 12):
Ah, the wonders of Airbus FBW.

Please don't start an A vs B war on my first thread! pray 

Quoting KrisYUL (Reply 12):

No sane pilot would do a stunt that he knew was over the pale - after all, the first one to die in a crash would be him!

He wouldn't have been the first pilot to crash at an air show...

User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 4888 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 20611 times:

Quoting KrisYUL (Reply 12):
Ah, the wonders of Airbus FBW.

This is an A310 not an A320 or A330.  Wink


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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined today!, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 20587 times:

Hi!

The pilot on this great performance flight was Cap. César Brito no less than the TAP Airbus A310 fleet last Chief Pilot...this awesome pilot have 4.000 hours on the A310 and TAP wanted to pay the best tribute for almost 20 years of service in TAP without an accident. The airplane involved was CS-TEI and the co-pilot of that flight was Vitor Pereira. Has you know, from November on TAP will start to receive 5 brand new A330-200 fresh from the factory.
This incredible performance shows the great pilots TAP have during all these years, just to remind you in early 60's the famous Capt. Marcelino passed UNDER Tagus bridge with a Boeing 707!!!
I personally think that Capt. César Brito with this large amount of flying hours on the A310 did knew what he was doing!!!
Regards

User currently offlineJumpJet From United Kingdom (England), joined Feb 2005, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 20574 times:

Looks like another airshow disaster in the making to me! Aren't all the pilots killed in airshows experts in their fields? They are - until they overcook it and unfortunately spread themselves all over the runway! When watching that video, part of me almost expects the aircraft to gently sideslip into the ground, it is a damn great airliner after all, not some overpowered "paraffin budgie" of a fighter..

User currently offlineCV990 From , joined today!, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 20553 times:

Hi!

The reason for me why expert pilots are killed in airshows is because they push the "envellope" over the limits.....of course they are experts but for some reason do go behind the airplane limit.....in this case that didn't happen because at the end the Airbus A310 came back to LIS, it didn't crash!
Regards

User currently offlineBraby From United Kingdom (England), joined Mar 2007, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 20538 times:
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Amazing video's. Not sure i would have liked to have been on the plane though, a little bit to close for comfort!

User currently offlineKrisYUL From , joined today!, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 20504 times:

Quoting Columba (Reply 14):

Doesn't it still have some sort of flight envelope protection?

User currently offlineEarlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 20492 times:

Quoting CV990 (Reply 17):
The reason for me why expert pilots are killed in airshows is because they push the "envellope" over the limits.....

don´t tell me - in this case, a sudden power loss on the lower side engine would probably have ended in a disaster!

User currently offlineCV990 From , joined today!, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 20453 times:

Hi!

That's true, but if we start going that way then I better stay at home and don't fly anymore or don't visit an Air Show!!! Of course all these things can happen always. It like a sentence we have in Portugal - "If my gramma didn't died, she would be alive right now!"
regards

User currently offlineMighluss From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 927 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 20453 times:

Quoting CV990 (Reply 15):
just to remind you in early 60's the famous Capt. Marcelino passed UNDER Tagus bridge with a Boeing 707!!!

It was something to see for sure!!!! antone knows more about this history?



WOW!!


Miquel.
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 4260 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 20433 times:

That is incredible. The wingtip looks like it is almost touching, perhaps it was the camera angle making it look lower than it is - maybe the cameraman is on a higher bit of ground. I dont believe TP's chief A310 training skipper would have knowingly done that - doesnt look safe to me but hey, he has the hours on type and will have planned it properly - I dont and nobody here can really point the finger with any authority. Im sure he knew what he was doing, or maybe didnt plan to be quite as low as he was - the long left hand climbing turn looked just as dangerous - dodgy manouver to undertake in a low energy state like that.


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