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N987SA Crashed Near MID  
User currently offlineWolflair From Mexico, joined Sep 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 24301 times:

According to several mexican newspapers, G-II reg. N987SA went down this morning in Yucatan, Mexico, about 20 nm from MID.

It has been reported the plane was carrying 3.2 tons of cocaine. Mexican Air Force EMB-145MP detected the G-II coming from the south (reportedly from Colombia).

Press report in http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/450941.html (sorry, in spanish only)





Usually drug dealers re-mark their own a/c, but this time the pictures are consistent with the N987SA listed in a.net db


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User currently offline777STL From United States, joined Dec 2004, 1986 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 24272 times:

My espanol is a little rusty. Was it shot down or did it go down on its own?

User currently offlineAndesSMF From United States, joined Jan 2006, 6080 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 24214 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 1):
Was it shot down or did it go down on its own?

It was forced down.


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User currently offlineRicciPettit From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 177 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 24215 times:

That looks like a lot of bags to cram onto that plane!!

How on Earth did customs/airport officials not notice anything!? Either that or some kind of blind eye was turned...


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User currently offlineLuisca From United States, joined Aug 2001, 1703 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 24151 times:

Shows registered to a company in Fort Lauderdale... interesting.


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User currently offlineXtoler From United States, joined Sep 2007, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 24145 times:

With the right amount of cold hard cash money, you can pretty much accomplish anything. Now getting away with it is another story.


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User currently offlineKhobar From United States, joined Mar 2006, 1666 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 24100 times:
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Quoting Xtoler (Reply 5):
With the right amount of cold hard cash money, you can pretty much accomplish anything. Now getting away with it is another story.

I often wonder why these people don't take the first $200 million and just retire, like everyone else.

User currently offlineXtoler From United States, joined Sep 2007, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 23991 times:

Quoting Khobar (Reply 6):

Normal, rational people would do that, but it's all about the greed. Plus, I'm thinking it's hard to get out of that business, unless you went into hiding somewhere in the south Pacific. Do you remember that big American drug smuggler back in the late '70s, early '80s? His last name was Jung. He tried to get out too, but wound up doing it again anyway, and if he's not dead yet, I'm pretty sure he's still in jail.

I think I'll keep on earning my living the old fashioned way and keep on with my job and hope to score big on the Powerball.  Wink


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User currently offlineWolflair From Mexico, joined Sep 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 23875 times:

Quoting RicciPettit (Reply 3):
How on Earth did customs/airport officials not notice anything!? Either that or some kind of blind eye was turned.

Many drug transporting planes leave from clandestine runways in the jungle (mostly in guerrilla controlled areas). No need for customs. All drugdealers need is information on when and where will air patrol a/c will be (either near Colombia or Mexico).

A few weeks ago, a BAC-1-11 landed in CUN due to an "emergency" (flightplan was from somewhere in Venezuela to MID). At the far end of the rwy, the airplane shut down their lights, opened the door and dumped some cargo. Somebody noticed it and the police went to the end of the rwy. At the time, some pick up trucks had already left the airport's perimeter with the cargo. Pilots were arrested and the a/c secured. Traces of drugs were found on board.

Quoting 777STL (Reply 1):
Was it shot down or did it go down on its own?

No information on that. Authorities are quite tight lipped at the moment (according to the news). Some people heard in their scanners in MID something about the incident (http://www.fsmex.com/foros/viewtopic.php?t=21274&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 in spanish only!)

In summary, an EMB145MP returned to MID. The ATC requested information and pilot in the EMB said:

- The G-II was coming from Colombia to Cancun.
- It was intercepted by the Mexican Air Force near Cancun (no information reg. the intercepting aircraft, probably a PC-7)
- The plane tried to land in the jungle (possible a clandestine runway) but had to make a go around.
- On a second attempt the plane went down. Possibly it ran out of fuel because there was no fire (pictures confirm this).
- At the time of this communication the Mexican Army and Air Force had not found the crash site.


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User currently offlineD328 From United States, joined Jul 2007, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 23705 times:

Quoting Xtoler (Reply 7):
Do you remember that big American drug smuggler back in the late '70s, early '80s? His last name was Jung. He tried to get out too, but wound up doing it again anyway, and if he's not dead yet, I'm pretty sure he's still in jail.

There is a movie called Blow that is about him, he's played by Johnny Depp and Penelope Cruz is in it also. Good movie. They stole a Cessna in the movie, landing was great, as in bouncing....He is in jail till 2014 I believe.

User currently offlineWjcandee From United States, joined Jun 2000, 3306 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 23669 times:

6400 POUNDS? That's a lot of weight for a GII, isn't it (like 32 passengers)? That's also gotta be hundreds of millions of dollars of cocaine. Unreal.

User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 1819 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 23591 times:

Quoting D328 (Reply 9):

There is a movie called Blow that is about him, he's played by Johnny Depp and Penelope Cruz is in it also. Good movie. They stole a Cessna in the movie, landing was great, as in bouncing....He is in jail till 2014 I believe.

i thought he died in jail? or was it that his daughter never came to visit him..?


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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 3523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 23522 times:

Wolflair

Do you have any id on the BAC 111.

David

User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 2480 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 23438 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 11):
i thought he died in jail? or was it that his daughter never came to visit him..?

The latter  checkmark 


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User currently offlineWolflair From Mexico, joined Sep 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 23318 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 12):
Do you have any id on the BAC 111.

According to several press reports it was XB-KCE.

Again, sorry the link is spanish...
http://www.noticaribe.com.mx/cancun/...custodian_sospechosa_aeronave.html

[Edited 2007-09-25 02:15:19]


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User currently offlineJuventus From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2370 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 23236 times:
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I'm glad the Mexican Air Force finally has the technology to detect this. They need a few more of those Embraer-recon airplanes to cover the whole area.

User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 1819 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 22685 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 15):
I'm glad the Mexican Air Force finally has the technology to detect this. They need a few more of those Embraer-recon airplanes to cover the whole area.

which brings another question to my mind, how do they detect something like this where they know they have drugs on the plane?


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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 22515 times:

Quoting Wolflair (Reply 8):
Pilots were arrested and the a/c secured

Hope that doesnt mean the end of the aircraft - airworthy 111's are a rarity now and I know a lot of these aircraft just get broken up, I remember that happened to at least 2 Caravelle's when there were only about 10 or less still flying.

Quoting Wolflair (Reply 8):
The plane tried to land in the jungle (possible a clandestine runway)

I cant imagine the GII or 111 being ideal aircraft for such operations - in this case getting into the airstrip was obviously hard (he didnt make it) but id imagine getting out would be even harder, certainly when they are overloaded like this GII was.


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User currently offlineBlueSkys From , joined today!, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 22221 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 16):
which brings another question to my mind, how do they detect something like this where they know they have drugs on the plane?

Good Question! What if it is a regular flight that was forced down?



BTW.... 200 million dollars (probably street value though) with one flight, I wonder what the pilots are getting paid.

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User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 21940 times:

Quoting BlueSkys (Reply 18):
BTW.... 200 million dollars (probably street value though) with one flight, I wonder what the pilots are getting paid.

i used to work with a guy that got busted for trying to smuggle drugs out of ecuador in a briefcase. Not a pilot, but i dont think he would do it, or anything like it, again for any amount of money. The stuff he went through in the prison down there in ecuador is some crazy stuff.


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User currently offlineRevelation From United States, joined Feb 2005, 2335 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 21457 times:

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 11):
i thought he died in jail? or was it that his daughter never came to visit him..?

According to Wikipedia (which can of course be inaccurate), he is still alive, and she did visit him a year after the film came out.


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