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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

The NTSB chair Jennifer Homendy gave a presser late yesterday. Basically, they still aren't sure what the root cause of this was. And she raised a new issue that is under consideration...a very scary scenario for Boeing and the airlines... they will be looking at the possibility of fuselage flexing...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Not sure if it was mentioned here, but regarding the records from Renton, there was this illuminating burner comment at leehamnews: https://leehamnews.com/2024/01/15/unplanned-removal-installation-inspection-procedure-at-boeing/#comment-509962 If you have been paying attention to this situation clo...

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Re: JetBlue CEO resigns.

I tend to believe that "health" reason for the exit and wish him the best. I've never heard of a time when health was cited where there was not a significant medical issue. Several decades ago the college I attended suddenly announced that one of the Coaches in it's athletic department was...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Did you ever get an extra fastener in furniture package? In a few cases yes. More troubling is that twice in the last few years I got the exact number of fasteners - but at least one of them was defective and you could not complete assembly. Twice I have received bent parts (in undamaged packaging)...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

There are some bolts that have a potential to be opened on some maintenance issue like the ones that hold the plug to the frame but there are other bolts that have zero reason to ever be opened in any maintenance work and some of the bolts that have been shown to be loose belong in this later categ...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

It is now in the public domain that Max aircraft both on the assembly line in Renton and in service have bolt/fastener issues that absolutely should not exist under any understanding of the certification... ....... .... It is unknown at this time if the last time these bolts were worked on was by B...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

It is now in the public domain that Max aircraft both on the assembly line in Renton and in service have bolt/fastener issues that absolutely should not exist under any understanding of the certification... I would disagree with this statement as you are making a huge assumption which may not be tr...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Please at least consider that the Boeing CEO's comments may not be correct; and in my experience most likely are not (explained in a bit). First: Boeing Company Executives down to workers are totally forbidden to publically discuss NTSB investigation directes, premiminary findings, and anything else...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

I totally agree that the length of a grounding will not be about politics. The key question in my mind is did Alaska Airlines or one of their contractors open or work on that plug after Boeing delivered the aircraft? The same question applies to the loose bolts found on the United planes. Did Unite...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

NTSB will very quickly determine who, and when, any work was done on the door plug. You can't sneeze on something in aircraft maintenance without it being logged, so once they dig through the paperwork, they'll know exactly the timeline of any work done. Aircraft Maintenance - Sure. Third-Party ins...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Wow seriously? Care to explain why a lengthy grounding in this case would in any way be political? The amount of nonsensical political commentary on this site is astonishing to say the least. At least you didn't just blame Mayor Pete right off the bat, so I'll give you that. I totally agree that th...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

Wonder if this is going to extend the groundings of the United MAX-9s I don’t think so. Now that the NTSB has defined a cause (bolts failing to allow the door to translate up OR bolts just missing, allowing same) the prescriptive relief could be a simple as “Inspect bolts to determine if damaged, a...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

I have never speculated in one of these threads, generally preferring to wait for the final report. However, based on everything I have seen and read my guess is the four primary bolts of the door plug were not secured properly. As final assembly of the door plug happens at Boeing, I would assume t...

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Re: AS1282 PDX-ONT decompression event, returned to PDX, FAA temporarily grounds 737MAX9 for inspections

The "loose bolt" issue may not be Boeing's or Sprint's responsibility. Did the Airline or any other contractor work on the door since it was built? That's a very important question. Whoever last worked on the door is likely responsible for the "loose bolts" unless there is some r...

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Re: News Story: Boeing Urges Inspection of MAX Jets for "Possible Loose Bolt"

We should not move on from the horrible incidents that occurred because Boeing built a plane with design flaws. Glad we have government regulation overseeing these corporations or we would have repeat incidents. We need airlines to fully inspect these planes now. Would you please tell me which airc...

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Re: Russia has only built 2 commercial airliners so far in 2023

The soviet airliner industry was only some unloved stepchild of soviet military transport aircraft manufacturing and received only second rate budgets, materials and resources. They continued to build outdated products and ended up not being competitive. Look how ALL new Russian airlines preferred ...

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Re: MH 370 - Fisherman Comes Forward with Surprising Revelation

You do not cut away a fishing net worth $20000 without some evidence of why you were forced too. An insurance claim would've required such evidence, nobody is going to discard something that valuable, without having recourse to get something back for it. And good luck insuring nets. Hull and liabil...

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Southwest fined $140 Million for 2022 holiday meltdown & Future Delay Payments

According to the following article Southwest Airlines has been fined $140 Million dollars for the December 2022 meltdown, and agrees to a $75 Credit for any future delay more than 3 hours - including mechanical issues. I wonder if that credit excludes medical diversions (I've had a few of those - in...

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Re: What non-weather issues at an airport could cause the airport to be closed with no notice?

Any major disruption of basic utility services: Electricity, Water, Sewage, Natural gas. Already mentioned: Major disruption of Fuel supplies or Air Traffic Control. Terrorist attack or significant threat. Significant national defense emergency in the area (Airspace will be closed - your aircraft wi...

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Re: Russia has only built 2 commercial airliners so far in 2023

Let’s ignore 2024, realistically… that’s five years to build 1,000 planes. 200/year. Colour me skeptical. I plan to be a billionaire by 2030, chances of either outcome are about the same I reckon. I believe that there will be more new billionaires in the world by 2030 than there will be new Russian...

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Re: Rolls Royce hampering Airbus sales?

Mentour Now! yesterday covered the key points of this issue as it relates to the A350-1000. In my opinion its worth watching (22 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9aKVLI7kto What do you think of Mentour's analysis? I watched the whole thing. I thought it was laid out pretty well. I sincerel...

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Re: Rolls Royce hampering Airbus sales?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9aKVLI7kto

What do you think of Mentour's analysis?

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Re: Emirates Tim Clark proposed to Airbus an A380 replacement

All this at the same time as committing to a clean sheet design with massive costs, which should have meant the business case should have been extremely sound. It's hard to work out how they justified launching the project without concluding there was a strong, built-in bias towards launching the p...

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Re: Rolls Royce hampering Airbus sales?

While it is nice that it appears that the RR Civil Aerospace division is again profitable and on a short term glance looks like it has turned the corner. That may not be true. Many a companies have gotten into trouble, then looked like they turned the corner for a few years, then went belly up. I n...

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Re: Rolls Royce hampering Airbus sales?

Your argument is completely wrong due the fact that the aviation sector is profitable, how does that lead to bankruptcy? I think in the next few months the posters on here that believe RR is hampering Airbus sales will be shown to be completely miss informed. Note: Edited by 2175301 for brevity RR ...

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Re: Rolls Royce hampering Airbus sales?

More engines sold should, in theory, at least, lead to other economies of scale at RR. Hard to understand their apparently counterproductive strategy at present. Not at all - and you identify the key problems in your post. RR is loosing money due to their unreliable engines. They feel that they can...

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Re: Emirates Tim Clark proposed to Airbus an A380 replacement

How else do you make room for the large bypass engines Clark is imagining? Gull Wings. Just opposite direction of the gull wings of the F4U Corsair (wings would start up and then level out flat a meter or higher off the ground than the wingbox). The reason the F4U Corsair had gull wings was to put ...

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Re: FAA starts rule process to require 25 hours of black box data

Yeah, I doubt many accidents that weren’t solved would have been solved with 25 hours of data. The SFO AC incident might have benefited with the FDR, but they should have had QAR data. The bizjets I work FOQA save 300 hours, just much reduced number of data sets. That is precisely the reason why mo...

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FAA starts rule process to require 25 hours of black box data

Per the article linked below the FAA has filed for comment a proposed rule requiring new black boxes to record 25 hours of data. The current requirement for 2 hours of data has prevented investigation of incidents that occurred more than 2 hours prior to the black box being shut off. After the 90 da...

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Re: Boeing ponders KC46 RE per Leeham, may lead to 767neo?

The 764 reengine could be paid for by the US Military. If that was done the previous estimated cost of the resulting freighters would drop and I believe that both FedEx and UPS would be interested. My understanding is that they were previously interested in the concept; but rejected the Boeing Propo...

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Re: Effect of bullet trains on China domestic flights

The world could learn a lot from the Chinese rail industry, vastly superior in every way. Many things to learn, indeed, like how easy it is to build infrastructure in a regime without private property rights or meaningful environmental controls. Well the airports are also guilty of the same issues....

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Effect of Sanctions on Russian Civilian Aviation

The article linked below shows significant increase in problems and savaging parts from other aircraft for Russian Civil Aviation following the Embargo. Example: "In the first nine months of 2023, 150 cases of aircraft malfunctions were documented in Russia. For the same period in 2022, only 50...

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China apparently removes Russia from the C929 project

According to the following article China has removed cooperation with Russia and its aviation companies from the CR929 project (now C929) due to all the sanctions against Russia due to their continued invasion/war with Ukraine. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/23785 I know that the Chinese 929 project ...

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Re: Horizon E175 diverts after ‘Authorized’ Person in Cockpit Tries to Shut Down Engines

... I'll buy that someday that automation will do a better job flying than human pilots. However, that is multiple decades in the future at best; and a lot of lives are likely to be lost along the way to get there as the industry learns what kind of scenarios they forgot to program for - and how to...

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Re: Washington state senator arrested on arrival in HKG with pistol

While TSA messed up, they are not perfect at anything (no organization is). The key responsibility is on the State Senator. 100% totally his fault, and trying to blame others just shows he does not have the moral fiber to take responsibilities for his own mistakes. I speak from experience as I once ...

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Rolls-Royce Cutting 2500 jobs

I would have thought that they pursued reduction of supply chain delays and efficiencies due to their size years ago. This just does not "smell right" to me. Lets pay attention to see how it affects production line jobs. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/rolls-royce-cutting-2500-jo...

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Re: Rocket Powered Plane Could Fly New York To Sydney in 90 Minutes

We already have the first stage of a rocket that can launch people into space and then return and land on the pad. When you couple all previous technology, like the space shuttle, this can be very doable in the not too distant future. Technology does not stand still. You are correct that technicall...

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Re: FedEx 757 lands at Chattanooga, TN Airport with landing gear failure

Heck, at Warsaw, the tech crew jacked up the plane reset the breaker, extended the gear and towed it away. And my memory was that the same aircraft was flying again in a few months as repairs took more than just speed tape. I suspect this aircraft will also be repaired and back in the air in a few ...

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Re: Boom Supersonic Overture Development - 2023

IIRC they originally had hoped for another military engine for the three engine concept. Something that is not available and will never be made available because it is "black". Since that time they don't have an engine. I disagree. The F119 engine for the F-22 was designed for "super...

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Re: Boom Supersonic Overture Development - 2023

It is hard to imagine that they can now just take military engine technologies and transfer them to the civil market. IIRC it was their intended concept from the beginning but hit a brick wall at some point as every engine technology Boom had hoped for was top secret and unavailable for non-militar...

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Re: Viking Twin Otter loses door inflight over Scotland.

At least a door, and it's latches are an easy thing to replace.

I'm sure there will be an investigation as to why the door latches failed, or who opened the door.

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Re: Pratt & Whitney GTF engine issues; many aircraft grounded

Who would have guessed that customers would have to order LEAP just to be able to fly their airplanes? Or wait years? I'm beginning to wonder if PW is going to be able to survive this debacle. You will see a shift in engine market share just like we saw with the B787 towards the GEnx. GEnx now domi...

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Re: Boeing being sued by Brazilian aerospace companies for poaching 400 workers since 2022

Labour is one of the factors of production. No-poach agreements would come under anti-trust law where discovered but that doesn't stop even the fast-food joints in the U.S. My recollection is that once publicized that the US fast food non-compete contracts ended immediately in multiple chains once ...

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Re: RA-02795 Wagner Legacy 600 (Prigozhin's Jet) Crashes

"At the moment", Russia has no intention of conducting an international investigation in accordance with ICAO Annex 13. An offer of support from Brazil's aviation safety authority CENIPA has been denied. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-will-not-probe-prigozhin-plane-crash-unde...

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Re: SWISS cabin crew in trouble for taking selfies on a 777 wing

What is the concern? Is it damaging to the aircraft? High heels would likely create indents on the top of the wing, potentially disrupting airflow over the wing, reducing lift, and ultimately risking the lives of 300+ pax as the 777-300ER fails to gain altitude and ending in a horrific ball of fire...

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Re: Break-even point for Embraer E-190/195E2 and Airbus A220 100/300 ?

Every 10-15 years NASA releases some drawings that are published on industry magazine covers. They spend billions on research for planes that never get built. Could those billions be spent better? How about investing those billions into the ATC system to allow increased capacity in bad weather? It ...

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Re: Multiple Air Incidents At 2023 EAA AirVenture Oshkosh Air Show

Unfortunately accidents and incidents are routine at Oshkosh. Based on some of the live feeds I’ve seen over the years, I’m actually shocked there aren’t far more. If you’re a GA pilot (or any pilot!), don’t overextend yourself or your abilities. If you can’t operate professionally in an extremely ...

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Russia has only built 2 commercial airliners so far in 2023

The article linked below says that Russia has only produced 2 commercial airliners the 1st half of 2023, and that they were contracted to deliver more than that. It also discusses the stripping of parts from parked aircraft to keep aircraft in operation and that even the SSJ-100 will be forced into ...

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Re: What is the market for 20-30seater electric aircraft?

Voters will want action far sooner than that. It's the passengers who will be buying the airline tickets that will shape the future; unless the voters decide to massively subsidize this effort (which I do not see). I see only a limited market for this kind of aircraft at this time.... and I doubt t...

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Re: 2 engine 747/A380 replacement in the skunkworks?

2 engine 747/A380 replacement in the skunkworks?

It makes a great cover story about what the Skunkworks is actually working on....

I just don't see it as something that Airbus or Boeing would develop in the next 10-15 years.

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