"Its just a sore in the US industry with low yields" Not to be picky, but if you are going to bash indy, at least do it properly. Indy has one of the highest yields in the industry because of their short average stage length. From the 10-K Average yield per revenue passenger mile $ 0.216 <a href="ht...
Jump to postThe only 2 US airlines that i know of that do not oversell are jet blue and independence. You can check the DOT stats for exact figures of overselling and how many voluntary and involuntary bumps each airline has had over a month here <a href="http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/reports/atcr05.htm" targe...
Jump to postAlso worth noting, had the merger went through; Independence probably would have never existed. <acronym title="Acapulco - General Juan N. Alvarez International (ACA / MMAA), Mexico">ACA</acronym> had a signed MOU to buy the 3 wholly owned US Express carriers (PSA, Allegheny, Piedmont) Had that happ...
Jump to postWe will have 12 busses by May. As of right now, that will be it for the rest of the year. There is an option to bring 5 of the 2007 (10) deliveries back into 2005. There have also been rumors swirling around about picking up 3-4 extra delivery slots in 2005 from a carrier that has orders and will su...
Jump to postWell, seems like the <acronym title="Taipei - Sung Shan (TSA / RCSS), Taiwan">TSA</acronym> has all of sudden determined that lighters and matches shouldn't be going past security. I figured this would cause some issues. Not like there are more pressing issues facing the Thousands Standing Around. H...
Jump to postEasy answer, Too much supply, not enough demand. Quasi government regulation causing supply to remain too high. There is only two ways to reduce supply, either re-regulate and let the government decide, or actually deregulate and let the market decide. I'll take the latter of the two options, but ap...
Jump to postIndependence air has playing cards.
Not quite sure where one can buy them but I know that they exist.
AAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Cant you people read! Sorry about the yelling, but seriously people. It just says we were one of 10 yes 10 companies that put in a bid. A bid we all agreed is just to get <acronym title="Air Wisconsin (USA)">ZW</acronym> lower rates. We stand no chance of winning th...
Jump to postActually sean, he is more right than you are. we still own 8 but the other 75 are all leased. The other 8 are collateralized on some loans and it wouldn't net us any cash if we sold them. check the last 10-Q and 10-K. Next, 698 and 699 did have ACARS, but 709 and 710 did not as it was never installe...
Jump to postIt's gojet, not jetgo. They are the alter ego of trans states. similar to mesa freedumb, and republic chq, It's an airline within an airline created to get around scope clauses. The pilots are all <acronym title="Air Transat (Canada)">TS</acronym> pilots, Everything is the same execpt the airplanes ...
Jump to postCome on guys, yall should know by know that this was just a smoke screen for HP's real take over target, Independence.
He He He.
Anyone know if the airport is open again? I gotta go to work in dulles tomorrow and have to commute out of LAN in the morning. I know Independence and Pinnacle cancelled the last 2 out of <acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acronym>, and Indy's websit...
Jump to post4.5 hours, that's it. Worst i saw during my 4 years being based up there was about 8 hour delays. However that wasn't the day before thanksgiving. I feel sorry for all the thousands of people there tonight, it's going be a long one. The snow up here in <acronym title="SilkAir (Singapore)">MI</acrony...
Jump to postWow and indy thread with 5 replies and NO boo birds yet. Amazing. For those who said we couldn't, We did. We're used to being the underdog here, just keep doubting harder and harder and things will get better and better for us. So please continue the bashing so we can continue to be the underdogs. H...
Jump to postThey are currently being stored in maine. I can't remember exactly where but the last 5 were retired in the beginning of august. I think they are some near presque isle (?sp)
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"Hopefully United won't take them back. I was sick of all that delays and lost connections."
You mean like the ones you are now experiencing with the other UAX carriers?
Thank you Mm320cap.
We wish you guys the best of luck as well. We all know it isn't the employees. It's nice to see that someone from the "other side" gets it too. Best of luck to you as well.
"who wants to fly a LCC in a CRJ that you cannot even stand up in when you can fly a nice A320 or 737 WITH IFE, or at least room to spread out!" Speaking of people consistently forgetting the other half of our business plan. Don't we have 28 busses WITH IFE coming in the next year and a half. Oh tha...
Jump to postCubsrule, yes we couln't operate the airbusses under UAL scope. Second, the bid for the <acronym title="Air Niger">AW</acronym> flying is simply a way to get them to take concessions. How ironic that they included us in the bid, it is the exact reason why we left. Danny, Im wasn't even going justify...
Jump to postToday Air Wisconsin, tomorrow Skywest, then next highest will go next, it will go on and on and on and on and on. I'm sorry to the employees who will now have to take another round of paycuts to keep their jobs. And now you wonder why independence left.
"I just think that Indy Air wanted to bluff <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> and once <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym> said no way to their demands and Mesa tried to buy their airline they had to throw something together quick..I am probably over simplyfing thin...
Jump to post"Like anybody looking to vill the void in regional capacity that was left when <acronym title="Acapulco - General Juan Alvarez Int'l (ACA), Mexico">ACA</acronym> decided to go it alone with a poor business plan that was designed mostly around 'getting back' at <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">...
Jump to post"with its current business model, so the creditors/lessors would be smart to take the planes back and place them with more stable and creditworthy clients." Like who? Do you really think somebody more creditworthy is interested in 87 50 seat CRJ right now? and why do people consistently forget the o...
Jump to postIm not saying everything is fine right now. In fact there are plenty of problems. Im not saying we will survive, and im not saying we will die. However, all the threats of bankrupcy give a certain amount of negotiating power with creditors right now. Do you want to give now, and maybe get some later...
Jump to postOk, so ask yourself one question. Why is independence defaulting on an 8 million dollar payment for aircraft that are to be delivered starting next june? (the 12 leased come first, then the 16 purchased). On top of that, even at doomsday senario numbers, we still have about 120 million dollars in ca...
Jump to postAll passengers are being flown on a CRJ. None will be rebooked on a connection unless they want to be. We took a little capacity out of a few cities to cover the tampa and orlando flying for a few weeks.
Guys, its not the payrates they want to strike about. It's the outsourcing. If they impose the requested contract, most all of them will lose their jobs anyway. I think they realize that if they do, the airline will be gone, they are not that stupid. Either they vote for their jobs to be outsourced,...
Jump to post"ASA is growing and making money" Uh, could you run that by me again. Are you telling me that the parent company is in good shape. I know ASA might be profitable because of some magic tricks on paper, but if you honestly think they are in good shape, you need your head examined. Delta is not doing g...
Jump to postI still can't believe ATA and Airtran tried to go over lord helmet. As we all know, you simply do not try to go over top or even around the side of lord helmet. What were they thinking. Now comb the deserts.
Uadc8contrail, I understand that ps is an apples to oranges comparison. However what about the E170 debacle. We simply suspend proving runs, and a thread appears about how the sky is falling. People take it upon themselves to question our safety. That gets under my skin. Did you see a thread about R...
Jump to postAccording to the new NW schedule, they are also cutting. they will have 2 LAN-IAD flights during the week and 1 during the weekend.
Jump to postWe have not FAILED proving runs. the have just been postponed for a bit to iron out some problems with the <acronym title="Mexicana Airlines (Mexico)">MX</acronym> computer. Failing would imply that we were never going to get them. That is not true. We found some issues, we told the FAA about them, ...
Jump to postYes, they will sub out CRJ's for now. I don't think it is going to take too long beyond Nov 3. Yes they will run 2 if they have to, people paid to get from point a to b, so we will take them there. Just curious, How long was the UAX E170 service delayed. Wasn't that originally supposed to start at t...
Jump to postThey don't have to answer the first question per the law. They do however have to answer the second question, it is their fiduciary responsibility to entertain any offer. If they answered the question that they would not, they would be in some trouble. They have to answer yes to that question, so do...
Jump to postI'm listening,
It should be an interesting call
FLYI
It is not IAIR, and we are listed on the NASDAQ
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Press Release Source: FLYi, Inc. FLYi, Inc. Reports Third Quarter 2004 Financial and Operating Results Wednesday October 27, 11:55 am <acronym title="Ethiopian Airlines">ET</acronym> DULLES, Va., Oct. 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- FLYi, Inc. (Nasdaq: FLYI - News), parent of low-fare airline Independe...
Jump to postIF, and that is a huge <acronym title="Great China Airlines and Italy First">IF</acronym>, something should happen, all customers would still be flown to their purchased destination. The <acronym title="Orlando - International (McCoy) (MCO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO</acronym> station has been handl...
Jump to post"then you will see chaos as indy does not have any ticket agreements with any airline and if the bus is not allowed to take off on the start date i dont think u will see indy rjs flying iad-lax with a fuel stop enroute" Man, you sure do know a lot about independence. Since when are we flying to <acr...
Jump to postThe early morning flights are to develop the markets for when the red eyes start from the west coast. If you come in at 5:30am from the west coast on a red eye, and have to wait until 8-9 on another airline, it might be better to fly independence so that you can connect at 6:30 to <acronym title="Kn...
Jump to postMariner, Kohflot Thanks for the good discussion, It's nice to see some civility in an independence thread. I too think the frontier thing could work in some form or another. Only time will tell. Who knows, maybe virgin america can come along and buy frontier, independence, jet blue, and america west...
Jump to postHey burnsie, you got anything contructive to add to the discussion, or are you just going to continue to spinelessly bash independence? Fine make it 90%, make all three option 90%, which one would you choose, or what would you do with the 4700 employees and over 100 airplanes? Liquidate? lets not ma...
Jump to postHey Kohflot, good ideas, but lets add a few details. if we were to sign a new deal with united, according to the BBD lease agreements, we would have to take delivery of the remaining 34 CRJ's on order. We would no longer have the ability to cancel those orders. Thats adding a huge liability. secondl...
Jump to postOk, so to all the armchair CEO's out there, instead of bashing lets hear what you would have done. Its late july 2003, united has offered up a contract that will effectively replace 70% of your flying by 2009 to lower cost operators, the contract allows for about 30 more 50 seaters and maybe maybe 1...
Jump to postAshcroft is the same analyst who predicted a 90% chance that the mesa takeover would happen. So by his estimate of 65%, we should definitly be profitable by jan. I find this to be funny. There is nothing different about today than yesterday or the day before. we shall see the numbers when they come ...
Jump to postsean, We are not installing directv. We are installing dish network. We will use matsushita as our vendor, the same as song and <acronym title="Northwest Airlines (USA)">NW</acronym>. The 3rd bus will have it installed from the get go, the first 2 will be retrofitted by jan. <br><br>[Edited 2004-10-...
Jump to postHey, i like them. They are getting better. but then again I'm biased. Clickable links <a href="http://www.flyi.com/media/tvcommercials.htm" target=_blank>http://www.flyi.com/media/tvcommercials.htm</a> <a href="http://www.flyi.com/media/radiocommercials.htm" target=_blank>http://www.flyi.com/media/r...
Jump to postGRR You should be able to, I don't know if they will make connections in the computer, but even if they don't, you can still set on up yourself. Just buy one from LAN-<acronym title="Washington - Dulles International (IAD / KIAD), USA - Virginia">IAD</acronym> and one from <acronym title="Washington...
Jump to postI disagree about LAN flyiguy, We went from 7 to 6 a day, and northwest went from 5 to 4 a day. Well now <acronym title="Northwest Airlines (USA)">NW</acronym> has finally started to realize that we are winning and for the decemeber schedule will pull back to 2 a weekday, and only 1 on the weekend. W...
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