Everything is now called into question because Boeing is incapable of producing a safe and reliable 737 Max. A door plug is considered an innocuous part of many aircraft, but Boeing's unreliable manufacturing unexpectedly caused a near deadly accident. The 737 Max is an aircraft flying with too man...
Jump to postBoeing has withdrawn the request for 737 Max 7 engine anti-ice exemption. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-withdraws-bid-safety-exemption-boeing-737-max-7-2024-01-30/ I would think a few lines of code automatically turning off the heaters or notifying the pilots when icing ...
Jump to postanother BOEING whistle blower comes forward, this time on camera ... former 737 Senior manager risks it all to tell his view ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdH23_jQrw Care to personally explain how someone who retired over 5 years ago when he didn’t get his way and started his own consultancy...
Jump to postAkasa orders 150 MAX. Some reports I see say MAX 10 and MAX 8-200. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-bags-150-max-planes-order-indias-akasa-air-2024-01-18/ As a point of order, this was a 2023 "undisclosed" order. https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2024-01-18-Akasa-Air-O...
Jump to postIsn't TTBW's budget co funded by NASA as well? The demonstrator is, yes. NASA is paying a max $425 million, while Boeing is funding the rest, currently estimated at @ $725 million. This is on top of the $110 million Boeing has already put in to R&D specifically on the TTBW. In exchange, as a pu...
Jump to postI am guessing something got lost in translation about the Hydrogen program development at Airbus. Airbus requested investment in the ecosystem and not in the airplane program. They can develop and produce the airplane by themselves. But they need the ecosystem(production, refuelling at airports, et...
Jump to postin order for Boeing to do what everyone on A.net, myself included, wants them to do, I.e. launch a new aircraft, it takes cash. How much more free cash would they have had (it might have all gone to dividends or buybacks, of course) if they had managed not to bungle execution so badly? The pandemic...
Jump to postThis sounds way too unfriendly for my taste. He might only do what the Boeing owners want to happen: Bring down costs to bring up dividends. Even if we take dividends out of the equation (in no way am I naive enough to believe they’ll stop paying dividends, but bear with me): in order for Boeing to...
Jump to postAs someone who loves and has been flying Airbus machines for over 15yrs, I’d say this would be bad for the industry. Boeing excellence is what made Airbus produce great aircraft. Competition drives innovation. Gotta completely agree! In the above article, Richard kept pointing out that Boeing hasn’...
Jump to postAviation Week on their main podcast discusses the question "Is Boeing done for". Summary of their answer: They will probably get their production right, and their service business is making money, but they will have no new civil airliner designs and are losing money on their military busi...
Jump to postI suppose, but it feels risky to presume things won't change much in 15 years so it's safe to take an axe to the strategy department... But that’s the Catch-22, isn’t it? With such long develop cycles, your carefully planned strategy built by a team of specialists might (and most likely, WILL) be t...
Jump to postI won’t be surprised if Riyadh air also take on the 321 neo. Its much more fuel efficient than the MAX Where did you get that from? The MAX10 has a slight edge on fuel efficiency on flights under ~2 hours and the 3210NEO had a slight edge on efficiency on longer flights, but the two models are very...
Jump to postFLYDUBAI ORDER 30 B787-9 ¡¡¡¡¡ This is exciting! I wonder if they will open up places like LAS/SJC and offer a slightly lower cost option than EK. Their 7M8’s already have a fantastic product, so that’s promising. Indeed. Despite all the drama re: the 777-8, this order is more interesting to me. I'...
Jump to postfcogafa wrote:The article quotes 'This is the first time for ANG to purchase brand new regional jets' and a deal value 6.2 bn which doesn't infer a lease, but you never know
Alaska has had some “go backs” on 9xxAK (917, 947, 903, 912 were recently added). Per FAA.gov, Alaska has recently registered a large block of 7xx tails with AS, AK, and AL. I see 703AK, 705AS, 706AS, 708AL, 709AK, 710AL…etc Currently, Boeing is in control of 985AK, 990AK, 947AK, 903AK. Boeing take...
Jump to postI don’t think the opposition was just in Bellingham. Think all of NW Washington was united in opposing that one. Think of Marysville - the BNSF tracks split the city in two, and cut it off completely from I-5 when a train goes thru. Now imagine how bad it would be with 24 daily trains, each 100 car...
Jump to postWhy on earth was my post deleted, where I stated ElAl will never buy Airbus. They have in the past ordered A330's but were "motivated" by their friends in the US of A not to take them. Google is your friend - https://www.flightglobal.com/el-al-quietly-cancels-plans-for-airbus-a330-acquisi...
Jump to postOh wow that is very interesting actually, I assumed they would have kept the original engines https://aviationweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/crop_freeform/public/2023-06/fia-scenario_boeing_ttbw.jpg?itok=cj4ylLbg (Image, Boeing) Don't think that would be possible, any commercial model would ha...
Jump to postI found an old article about the Lummis and the coal export terminal . The issue seemed to be more about preventing fossil fuel carbon emissions. High-capacity electrical transportation like HSR, which could be powered by clean energy sources, would seem to be less of a problem for the local tribes...
Jump to postThe mystery of LN688 is a very interesting one. I’ve been around enough decades now that I’m never terribly surprised by this industry. But the fact we still have no idea what the deal is with this frame is, honestly, surprising! Lol! AFAIK, nothing has ever been confirmed, denied or even suggested...
Jump to postAs better pictures come out, I simply can't get over how much I love this livery. Putting her on 62 for the first revenue flight is a nice touch. Agreed!! They truly hit it outta the park with this one! While I agree with the comments regarding the “Alaska” name placement from a looks standpoint, t...
Jump to postSeparately, if an airline wants to place a new order (not NTUs), how long will it take to get delivery of a brand new 787-9? (Meaning, obviously there would have to be a production slot for it). 6 months, 1 year, 2 years? One thing Calhoun said in the earnings call, in response to a question about ...
Jump to postFrom an outsiders perspective following the industry. When a deal is signed, I'll use United, the contract for 100 orders it would allocate slots for their plane over a specific time frame - say 10 per year for 10 years. Options usually have 'sell by' dates, possibly 10 orders every year after say ...
Jump to postNot strictly production related, but there was something mentioned in the East Africa thread that may be of interest to readers here. Reportedly the final installment for the Air Tanzania 767-300F LN1300 payable to Boeing is USD 38 million, but Air Tanzania, which is owned by the Tanzania governmen...
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I’ll have to go digging thru some of my stuff, but off the top of my head: the first FIRM order for the 777-200IGW (what would become the -200ER) was from. . . France’s Euralair.
Some 747 Side Cargo Door (SCD) history : The 747 SCD was initially designed for modification of two Sabena 747-100 aircraft to the combi configuration in 1973.(by Boeing Wichita) The main deck cargo part of this first combi conversion had to be at the back end, because the first class in the front ...
Jump to posthttps://www.rte.ie/news/business/2023/0329/1366976-ryanair-boss-on-summer-outlook/ O'Leary says Boeing approached them. Don't know to believe or not. 100 order plus 100 option as described in article is what I expected regarding order size...i.e. enough to keep them ticking over. they might have ap...
Jump to postThe first 77E's are from 1996. I think they will start going sooner than later (other than UA and AA who will keep these mid 90s gas hogs well past 30). 1997, and I love how what was the world's longest ranged and most efficient airliner only 19yrs ago, is now derided as "gas hogs," lol. ...
Jump to post2. Why? Numerous number of new builds are handed over after just two test flights. Gotta be patient, LN1145 still possibly may be delivered in a few days. I wouldn’t put much effort in to responding. This is a poster who started with a hypothesis without much fact, and is now desperately searching ...
Jump to postAre those costs usually taken as a charge against the program though? No, because most military contracts are not fixed-cost like the KC-46 is. So in most cases, the OEM (e.g. Lockheed with the F-35 or Airbus with the A400M) go to the respective governments paying for the program and say “We’re X l...
Jump to postYou're advocating the trampling of a nation's sovereign right to determine its own diplomatic policies. That's utterly imperialist. As I don’t have access to the New York Times article, perhaps you or another user can answer a question: is the association lobbying for just flights in to or out of t...
Jump to postPassengers from China, India, and the Gulf Coast nations will suffer. We are suddenly going back to the Cold War era now. Maybe you have missed what is going on in this world. We are in the middle of a war, not just a cold war. But I think it is wrong to blame the US or the EU for this. The countri...
Jump to postI don’t understand why anyone thinks it would be a good idea to let Lockheed Martin get anywhere close to any (or all) of Boeing. The last thing we need is that group getting any more power or clout. Northrop? Sure. But hell no to Lockheed. You think Boeing’s cost overruns are bad? Triple it for the...
Jump to postThe press release also states they are: “in advanced negotiations to acquire further long-haul aircraft which could be made available at shorter notice.”
This sounds like they are also close to getting more NTU 787’s. Anyone know how many are left that have not found homes yet?
I just wanted to say a huge thank you to qf789 for all the work you’ve put in to this thread. I’m sure I speak for community when I say it is very much appreciated!!
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Thank you everyone for your responses. Based on the photos proved by ‘iam ’, there certainly appears to be physical space for two. But thanks to responses by ‘kanban’ and ‘jay’, it still doesn’t sound feasible. I had especially forgotten about the Production Certificate, so thanks Jay! There’s no do...
Jump to postProbably a question for Kanban or Spetsnaz55 - As it’s been pre-787 since I toured the Everett site, what are the clearances in the (old) 787 bay? Specifically, would it be possible to run two parallel MAX lines in that one bay? My quick math tells me they’d need @ 40’ total of clearance to run them...
Jump to postBut maybe we should be carefull to not extrapolate that into hoped for a NB marketshare turnaround. Market realities don't seem to justify that. No one here who knows what's going on is expecting a MAJOR market share turn around, that is not the whole point of this thread anyways . No one here who ...
Jump to postThough, understandably so - it will just be an opinion, what do you assume the cost overruns might be/look like and/or over what issues, might be? Not at all disagreeing with you here, however hoping to better understand the project (considering how much is new here) as well as, not having a more a...
Jump to postAnother source suggests the $725M includes not just Boeing, but also some partners, so perhaps somewhat less, presuming the inevitable cost overruns don't happen. Firstly, thank you for your exemplary contributions to the forum, and with respect, I ask for your assistance in better understanding (a...
Jump to postJoe Sutter engineered and had a prototype built in a little over two years along with the help of more engineers and the like. They basically did this without the use of computers. It was built from about 1968 until the last one was completed and flown away from Boeitng's Renton airport in late Jan...
Jump to postAir France / KLM 4x A350F (for Martinair) - total now 8x A350F 3x A350-900 für Air France https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/air-france-klm-orders-airbus-072724035.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmRlLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMsbHrol3FqYpZ2olc_h1BS6US2aHoaibeqS1o5luukH...
Jump to postInteresting. It is otherwise painted all-white, which suggests it is either from storage (ex-Air Italy), or another NTU. If it was straight from the factory, the fuse wouldn’t be painted yet. I’m doubtful it’s a BBJ, as I’d imagine the Qatari’s would want a new aircraft for that. But anything’s poss...
Jump to postPolot wrote:fcogafa wrote:Could the A339s be for Malaysian, they were quoting 10 leased?
MH is leasing from Avolon.
Wow. You actually have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Airbus changed the specs of the A350-1000 in 2011 . https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2011-06-19/paris-2011-airbus-boosts-a350-1000-take-boeing-777 That was more that 2 years before Boeing launched the 777X. http...
Jump to postFirst off, I want to thank all participants for a very insightful thread. The numerous factors going in to all of this is very interesting to me, and can I see that I am not the only one. Earlier (and several times) this discussion touched on the new regulatory environment. I agree 100% that this is...
Jump to postFunny you say that, because except BA, all of them ordered the 777-9 just when it was launched in 2013 and that new orders since for that type have been hard to come by. Also, back in 2013, the A35K wasn't even the like for like 77W replacement it is today. Airbus later changed and bumped the margi...
Jump to postNot completely, there's more to it than just capacity. One has to factor in the various costs incurred over the projected life cycle of the said aircraft as well. And here the 777X is at a slight disadvantage as its fairly heavy compared to the A35K (319t vs 351t) whereas a 787-10 is just 3 tons he...
Jump to postWhy would you exclude Freighters and Military aircraft? A frame is a frame and they are reported as part of monthly deliveries. I don't agree. A frame isn't a frame. A delivery of a 787 is more important than a 737-8. Different aircraft have different roles, and represents different market segments...
Jump to postIs the reduction in Boeing's wide body production rate more of a result of the 787 production shutdown over the past year and a half, or the winding down of 747, 767, and 777 production? 787 deliveries up until November is close to the same as in 2021, while 777-300ER deliveries are winding down. (...
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