Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

Friday night at BNA Cell phone lot was like a demolition derby. Cars parked illegally, cars nose to nose, people unable to leave lot due to traffic jam. Guess I shouldn’t bring up how valuable train service from BNA to downtown would be. I was in that cell phone lot briefly this summer and it was n...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

AMS and/or CDG would have been my first thought as well. Wasn't it basically a done deal that DL was going to announce one of those cities before COVID hit? Seems like another European hub with connecting service to other European destinations along with the Middle East and other points east would ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

Unless there's a compelling business reason (Tokyo) or a popular leisure destination served by an airline that appears to be interested in expansion (DUB or KEF, perhaps), why wouldn't BNA be most interested in a destination like AMS or CDG that offers tremendous connectivity? AMS and/or CDG would ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

I'm not sure why you assume that MNAA can't read a map, although your contempt for any level of international expansion at BNA is well documented. Anyway, the list makes no sense after TYO (which is a sensible number one) and I assume that that's because of lousy reporting by the Tennessean, like 9...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

Interesting article this morning from the Tennessean as far as the top domestic and international markets that BNA is targeting, according to Nashville International Airport CEO Doug Kreulen - Top domestic targets 1.) Portland, OR 2.) Fort Myes, FL 3.) Sacramento, CA 4.) Orange County, CA 5.) Hartf...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

Interesting article this morning from the Tennessean as far as the top domestic and international markets that BNA is targeting, according to Nashville International Airport CEO Doug Kreulen - Top domestic targets 1.) Portland, OR 2.) Fort Myes, FL 3.) Sacramento, CA 4.) Orange County, CA 5.) Hartf...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

Interesting article this morning from the Tennessean as far as the top domestic and international markets that BNA is targeting, according to Nashville International Airport CEO Doug Kreulen - Top domestic targets 1.) Portland, OR 2.) Fort Myes, FL 3.) Sacramento, CA 4.) Orange County, CA 5.) Hartf...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

I don’t know where to find these numbers…but from what I’ve heard regarding BA at BNA, I don’t believe for a second that the flight is getting canned. Unless that was sarcasm…have trouble sensing (especially reading) sarcasm. I have been accused multiple times of taking things too literally. That w...

Re: AA Leaves passengers stranded in Bermuda for almost 24 hours

Something about this story is truly bizarre. I totally get the complexity about not being able to get hotel rooms for everyone at a moments notice in a place like Bermuda, but denying pax access to COVID RATs that the Government of Bermuda was willing to provide, so at least pax could get fresh air...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

This is getting tiresome. Questioning MNAA and their international growth plans (especially when it involves public tax dollars) does not mean one has a vendetta against Nashville. Some people here need to grow up. Just because Williamson County is a prosperous area doesn’t mean there is strong inte...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

So if the gates aren’t needed, why put them in? I think it’s mostly about egos and prestige. You put them in now because it’s cheaper and easier than putting them in 10 or 15 years from now when there’s actually a need. Why isn’t that a sensible rationale? Sure, but it all depends on whether there ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

The cost is some glass, some doors, and maybe one more elevator. Not zero but pretty low. Really? I don’t think so. There is a lot of infrastructure that goes into an international arrival facility, both from an immigration and customs standpoint. The baggage redesign alone would be massive. Have y...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

As I think I posited back in 2019, I still would like to know the cost of the IAB and other related infrastructure as it pertains to international only service. I understand that adding six domestic gates and expanding the A terminal is all well and good and necessary based on domestic traffic and ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

As I think I posited back in 2019, I still would like to know the cost of the IAB and other related infrastructure as it pertains to international only service. I understand that adding six domestic gates and expanding the A terminal is all well and good and necessary based on domestic traffic and d...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

It’s not just TATL flights, you can better darn believe that as WN builds up BNA, they’ll add more Caribbean flying out of BNA. The new IAB will be needed for that. So yes, while it won’t be busting at the seems at all times, it will get pretty decent use. I don’t think so. WN is pretty conservativ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

We are we judging the success of the LHR flight on load factors at a time when the dollar is really strong and Avios availability at one of the slowest times of the year? I’m not saying the flight is or isn’t successful but these measuring sticks make no sense to me. What? July and August should be...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

Well, the user who posted the comment about the BA flight not doing well has a history of posting negative things about Nashville and MNAA. They went off on a whole tangent a while back about the cost of the IAB and how it wasn’t necessary to have six international gates, etc. I take anything that ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

I don't agree that the BA flight is in trouble. I've flown it twice this summer as well, and it was packed. I know that isn't the best indicator, but it seems to be doing well. I was talking to a crew member who's worked the flight often, she said the loads are very good. Well, the user who posted ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

Having flown BA on the LHR-BNA flight twice in the last six weeks, I’m really questioning the viability of this route, which was suspended for most of the past two and half years during the pandemic. Lots of empty seats in all classes is not a good sign during peak summer. Last flight was on 787-8 ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

Having flown BA on the LHR-BNA flight twice in the last six weeks, I’m really questioning the viability of this route, which was suspended for most of the past two and half years during the pandemic. Lots of empty seats in all classes is not a good sign during peak summer. Last flight was on 787-8 ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2022

Having flown BA on the LHR-BNA flight twice in the last six weeks, I’m really questioning the viability of this route, which was suspended for most of the past two and half years during the pandemic. Lots of empty seats in all classes is not a good sign during peak summer. Last flight was on 787-8 a...

Re: LH A343 Low Level Go Around FRA

FWIW: I had a similar thing occur at Jackson Hole, WY (no, not the 747). Following a Learjet that reported shear after (from our viewpoint) having flown the entire length of the runway at very low altitude before pulling up into a "steep-ish" climb, the tower relayed a reported 15 knot lo...

Re: LH A343 Low Level Go Around FRA

Not sure about 'wind shear' - looks like it floated for quite a while so pilots decided to go around. They definitely said wind shear, but it didn’t seem right which is why I was curious. I think it caught the flight attendants off guard, because they made an immediate announcements with surprise i...

Re: LH A343 Low Level Go Around FRA

LH779 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYcxhQYSzRo

Your flight is at 20 minutes 20 seconds

edit: There's also a similar go around of a 748 at 2:18:40

Re: LH A343 Low Level Go Around FRA

Thanks. It seemed much lower, and since Flightaware records similar altitudes even after landing, I suppose there’s no real way to know.

LH A343 Low Level Go Around FRA

Interesting experience on LH 433 yesterday with a very low level go around on the A343. It seemed to me we were no more than 50 feet off the ground when it was initiated. Pilot said wind shear and we landed on the same runway about 15 mins later. Is that common at FRA? I would be interested to know ...

Re: UA933 strange departure at FRA

Does LH not service UA at FRA? I noticed that two of the three UA flights from IAD-FRA canceled yesterday, but the last flight of the day (UA932) operated roughly on time. So who serviced it, as well as the outbound UA flights today (UA47 and UA933 for example)?

Re: Air Serbia to boost JFK

I took JU last month from JFK-BEG, and while the service was great, I did not find the flight to be very pleasant because it was absolutely packed! As a US citizen, I decided to route back through LHR and that was much better because there were only 30 people on the A350! Of course, your citizenship...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Miguel, when was the last time you used BNA? There’s a fair amount of operational background that I think you’re missing but I’m not sure how much history I need to give you for it to make sense. I am not a frequent user of BNA, so happy to have any background you think is helpful. But I do find it...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

I suggest that Miguel get in direct contact with the MNAA if he’s so concerned. The back and forth here is not helpful to anyone. So in the "Nashville Aviation Thread" it's not helpful to anyone to ask questions regarding the current multi-year airport renovation in that very city? Then w...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

So taking 6 domestic gates and converting them to dual domestic/international that are capable of handling widebody jets is too much? That is literally what is going on here. The FIS facility is only one part of the expansion, the vast majority of that money is going towards the lobby and gate area...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Well, here are some nuggets about how much the international upgrades are costing: Incredibly, BNA spent $8.2 million just to upgrade the existing interim IAB to support the LHR flight through 2023. See https://bnavisionnashville.com/site/web/assets/2019/08/Interim-IAB-Fact-Sheet-July-2019.pdf. So ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Well, here are some nuggets about how much the international upgrades are costing: Incredibly, BNA spent $8.2 million just to upgrade the existing interim IAB to support the LHR flight through 2023. See https://bnavisionnashville.com/site/web/assets/2019/08/Interim-IAB-Fact-Sheet-July-2019.pdf. So B...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Construction costs are minimal because it’s within the footprint of the new gates in space that would otherwise have another back office use. Outfitting costs are probably somewhat more than if it was general back office space. I doubt that. Nothing about construction costs is minimal, especially w...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Nashville needed a bigger airport to handle growth the growth they’ve experienced. They decided as a part of that to allow more than one international flight at a time. That’s not a radical idea. This is not some billion dollar separate white elephant terminal that will sit empty we’re talking abou...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Just a reminder to everyone to discuss the topic without trying to provoke one another and to keep personal attacks out of the discussion You mean limit ourselves to BNA fanfare and avoid discussion of actual issues? Got it. Nashville needed a bigger airport to handle growth the growth they’ve expe...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

qf789 wrote:

Just a reminder to everyone to discuss the topic without trying to provoke one another and to keep personal attacks out of the discussion

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Do you happen to be from Louisville by chance? Perhaps friends with a certain poster from the "bluegrass" state? Nope, have only been through SDF once in my life. Apologies if I really don’t believe that. :roll: I really don’t understand the uproar. The gates aren’t going to go unused, wh...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

I'm curious what metric you are using. Population? If so, that doesn't tell the entire story in regards to city size and air demand. Yes, population, of course. BNA is a busier airport, fine, but almost all of that is WN (and lately G4 and NK), none of which have codeshare or alliance partners. So ...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Calling Nashville a "third-tier" city is pretty comical and completely invalidates your argument. The city is a booming business city and has long-cemented itself as a tourism destination that continues to grow its int'l side. BNA is planning for a better future and more int'l flights tha...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Calling Nashville a "third-tier" city is pretty comical and completely invalidates your argument. The city is a booming business city and has long-cemented itself as a tourism destination that continues to grow its int'l side. BNA is planning for a better future and more int'l flights tha...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Well, as a reminder in case you forgot, we are still in a pandemic and most countries have restricted travel between one another (I.e. the US and U.K. are restricting travel and instituting mandatory quarantines between one another). Further, there are only limited airports that allow international...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

They’ll be multi use gates as well. Bottom level will handle international services, top floor will handle domestic departures. The BA flight was actually one of their best performing routes, with the 787-10 daily upgauge this summer before COVID. There was speculation DL was gonna add CDG as well....

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Can anyone tell me why on earth BNA needs an IAB?! The only international flights aside from BA's short lived LHR flight and the occasional winter CUN frequency are to pre-clearance destinations in Canada. And who knows if BA will even resume. Seems like a prestige project and huge waste of resourc...

Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2020

Can anyone tell me why on earth BNA needs an IAB?! The only international flights aside from BA's short lived LHR flight and the occasional winter CUN frequency are to pre-clearance destinations in Canada. And who knows if BA will even resume. Seems like a prestige project and huge waste of resources.

Re: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN

UA was running a repatriation flight if I'm not mistaken to PTY within the last week. It was mentioned on the Embassy page. Right. Most Latin American countries locked down hard. This may be the first opportunity for some to get out. SJO also has quite a few recurring repatriation flights, operated...

Re: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN

Looks like it didn't take off, so it certainly won't be arriving today.

United Flights to Nowhere?

Have things gotten so bad that UA is actually operating flights to nowhere, either to keep pilots current or planes operational? Like the equivalent of starting you car every so often so it doesn't rust in the driveway? Case in point: UA 2688 is a 772 operating IAD-IAD today, with a planned flight t...

Re: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN

Boof02671 wrote:

Aeroman has an MRO at SAL, could be a ferry flight for heavy maintenance visit.

Re: EgyptAir 777-300 to EL SALVADOR 09JUN

gdg9 wrote:

UA was running a repatriation flight if I'm not mistaken to PTY within the last week. It was mentioned on the Embassy page.