At present the only Caribbean destination served from LAX is NAS (by AS) I find it odd LAX-MBJ hasn’t been back and there’s no LAX-PUJ yet. Would LAX-AUA work, at least between Thanksgiving and Easter ? LAX-MBJ was flown by JM during the days they were being managed by Butch Stewart around the turn...
Jump to postLol even Stevie Wonder could've seen this coming. My concern here is the CEO of the company saying that the route is viable just because BGI is providing a minimum guarantee for the route. So then when this subsidy is reviewed by the BGI authorities and they decide to stop the guarantees, it is obv...
Jump to postWill BA also continue with their LGW service? No, the LGW service to BGI ends. All BGI flights will operate from LHR. Thanks, for the information I somehow thought they would use the 78-10 for the summer period and go back to 777W and flights from LGW for winter. I think that the issue here is that...
Jump to postI'd argue that NAS, PLS, GCM, and BDA have materially different market characteristics than other Caribbean destinations. They are likely higher yielding, greater POS on the Caribbean end, greater demand for connections via LHR, and less dependence on tourists. Those flying these routes are skewed ...
Jump to postCayman Air has long had a primary mission of bringing tourists to Cayman and developing new routes and pulling out when US legacies take them over... see ATL, DFW, ORD etc. They are currently 'expanding markets' to DEN and LAX. From my perspective, they also don't run an efficient operation from an...
Jump to postDoes anyone know why two Sky High E175's are in BGI ? Was wondering the same thing. I also noticed JY had a flight from POS to BGI with the CRJ7 this morning. Another interesting thing today. I understand that JY flight was a charter for a church group. On the matter of JY, though, what exactly is ...
Jump to postThis just occurred to me but I wonder why the NAS route has been concentrated out of LHR instead of being switched to LGW given how BA prefers to run the Carribean routes out of LGW I'd argue that NAS, PLS, GCM, and BDA have materially different market characteristics than other Caribbean destinati...
Jump to postHello everyone on this lively forum. It's my first post for 2024 so I hope the year has been great to everyone so far. BWIA also flew to several European destinations at various times. FRA proved the longest-lived service, beginning in 1988 and lasting 9 years. They also served ARN, MUC and ZRH. Th...
Jump to postI wonder how many places would still allow it to fly, since the engines are too noisy per some regulations? Unless this one is re-engined.' *EDIT* I see now there an RE withthe pic....does that mean re engined? Yes it was re-engined. The most common programme achieving this involved attaching Jt8D-...
Jump to postHello everyone on this lively forum. It's my first post for 2024 so I hope the year has been great to everyone so far. Who will be the first Caribbean airline to actually make leisure routes work? This is a really tough thing to do as Caribbean carriers are small fish competing with huge north Ameri...
Jump to postGood points. I'm skeptical on how 4 additional 737s can be successfully deployed. I'd wager the following: 1-BOS+BWI 2-TPA+MCO 3-EZE+GRU 4-KIN base, or additional frequencies Some comments: 1. If BW has a tight budget and what it wants is to serve that part of New England, flying to PVD (non-stop o...
Jump to postMost of the capacity freed up by moving the Doha from Gatwick to Heathrow has been taken up by increasing frequencies to other destinations already served from Gatwick. I realise the long haul capacity is stretched, but BA are taking delivery of two more A350s and possibly more 787-10s before next ...
Jump to postI'm not sure when last you transited POS, but not all passengers who are connecting clear immigration and customs. Once BW offers the connection eg. MIA-GEO; MIA-POS on BW 483 and the POS-GEO BW 462, the pax had to change planes but did not clear immigration or customs. Cheers, AA1818 So thanks for...
Jump to postWhen LI used to run double daily BGI ANU more than half of the passengers were intransit to other points in the northeast Caribbean. The only connections that JY has available will be to EIS. Maybe when the next ATR arrives BW might do more BGI ANU, especially if/when they begin service to the US C...
Jump to postI'm just finding it so intriguing about AC and POS. I was not aware of the Canadian crew requirements, which of course will increase the cost of serving POS. That said, the increase in demand for the route and BW's apparent inability to increase frequencies (due to fleet limitations) mean that fares...
Jump to postTo gain an understanding of the launch decisions for the two shrinks, the Boeing B737-500 and Airbus A318, one has to consider the competitive 100-seater aircraft environment at their launch dates. Boeing B737-500: The B735 (launched 1987) was definitely a Boeing shrink of the B733 and the aircraft...
Jump to postIt's very difficult to compare the tourist offerings of BGI and SLU / UVF as they have evolved to cater to very different markets. Of the two BGI is certainly the veteran as it has long welcomed vacationers, including from the USA. The thing is that it has always held pride of place as a favoured de...
Jump to postLove to see CAL expanding... I really think they have opportunity if they achieve a critical mass and manage to avoid political interests overarching profitability driving decisions... Next...let's see some more Maxes. I think there is still some significant untapped potential for markets where the...
Jump to postA little surprising to me also, but I see where they are taking the opportunity, since I was told this year their Traffic for Carnival was extremely high. Maybe A388 can expound but, if I remember correctly SXM was shared with CUR from KLM for years, even with the winter traffic. Now that POS was a...
Jump to postKLM has ditched BGI this winter. Thought these flights were doing well. Published at 1800GMT 28JUN23 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines during Northern winter 2023/24 season is adjusting selected service to The Caribbean, reflected in this week’s schedule update. The Skyteam member from 29OCT23 no longer ope...
Jump to postPOS seems to be doing well enough for KL to notice carnival traffic. With BA now nonstop to POS I doubt there is a shortage of seats so this must be tourist traffic from other parts of Europe. BGIs heavy airlift from Europe this year might explain why KL is out, probably diluted yields. The carniva...
Jump to postTUGMASTER wrote:The reason was, G-VIII was already taken.
PR – interCaribbean Airways announces the closing on the acquisition of seven (7) additional ATR-42s. The 48-seat regional aircraft have been acquired from TAROM, S.A., a long-standing Romanian flag network airline. Accepting the ATRs from TAROM, Chairman and founder of interCaribbean Airways, Lynd...
Jump to postAmerican Airlines announces largest-ever winter schedule to the Caribbean and Latin America. Of interest to us in the Caribbean, AA will fly twice daily to POS again and twice daily to Tortola from Miami. AA will also go 4 daily flights to MBJ from Charlotte. https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2...
Jump to postBA's 2x weekly LGW-UVF-TAB is a replacement for 2x weekly LGW-ANU-TAB, and the majority of punters don't know what the intermediate point to TAB is. The main news as we know that the 5x weekly LGW-UVF-POS has been replaced by the 3x weekly LGW-POS, and time will tell if this is going to work out as...
Jump to postBA is indeed selling UVF-TAB, lowest one-way price US$211.40. Thanks for that. I guessed that they would eventually sell the route, seeing as it is an option between the 2 countries. BA had a decent market share when their LGW services from POS ran via UVF and this will effectively be a replacement...
Jump to postDon't believe everything you see in YouTube videos. BA has 5th freedom on most of its Caribbean shuttle flights. Absolutely. BA have 5th freedoms among the English-speaking Caribbean islands plus GEO as a legacy of BOAC. Routes to places like AUA which do not fall into that bracket do not have 5th ...
Jump to postBA fly DOH from Lgw daily. As is MRU 3 weekly.. Or does flights from Lgw not count? Likewise MCO, BGI, ANU, UVF. BGI is almost exclusively from LHR these days with a daily 77W. The only LGW flights there on BA these days are 3/week winter season services on 772. This arrangement was set up as BGI i...
Jump to postBWs new(est) ATR 9Y-TTG is currently enroute to POS now leaving KEF to YYR. Wonder how BW will adjust their summer schedule for these additional planes. I expect beefed up POS TAB. Maybe more GND, SVD, SLU and BGI? The new destinations will await the arrival of the 3rd and 4th new planes. I suspect...
Jump to postBA fly DOH from Lgw daily. As is MRU 3 weekly.. Or does flights from Lgw not count? Likewise MCO, BGI, ANU, UVF. BGI is almost exclusively from LHR these days with a daily 77W. The only LGW flights there on BA these days are 3/week winter season services on 772. This arrangement was set up as BGI i...
Jump to postCut the attitude please. The A318 service was properly niche, slowest westbound offering with no lounge facilities and a stop in Shannon for an hour. It was initially popular for tier point collections if I recall, but a rule change saw bookings collapse and one A318 was retired. The BA LCY-JFK fli...
Jump to posthas zero lounge, which DOES matter in long haul. Ask your friends over on BAEC (those that the original service was designed for) if they were fussed with the lounge offering (or absence of)- I suspect not. Those that might have felt they needed it, should probably have been departing from LHR. Cut...
Jump to postIt has been reported that Norse Atlantic would start flying to Barbados and Jamaica from London Gatwick in Oct 2023 7x weekly LGW-BGI begins October 29 - 3x weekly LGW-KIN begins October 31 - 4x weekly LGW-MBJ begins October 29 I've seen this posted elsewhere. It appears as if Norse Atlantic is try...
Jump to postThat's easier to say than to implement in a practical way. The movements causing congestion will almost all be related to arrivals and departures for network carriers in North America. To maximize connectivity they all leave hubs after a certain time and arrive back by a certain time... ad that con...
Jump to postHow is the runway extension at MBJ going at the moment? I wonder if KIN will ever get a runway extension. Considering that KIN is around water, it shouldn't be that much of a problem to reclaim land to do so. There could be the chance KIN could get more long haul flights if the runway was just a bi...
Jump to postThe ATRs we bought for regional and Inter Island routes, not just for POS-TAB. The reason for going to 10 ATRs is a government strategy to connect the Caribbean. They don't need to increase capacity, they route needs to be managed just like their international route, since the GOTT has specifically...
Jump to postJust wondered why Saudia's bigger hub is at Jeddah rather than Riyadh, which is the capital and larger of the two cities? Are both airports technically hubs? Or just Jeddah? Thanks Ottawa is Canada's Capital, but far from it's biggest or busiest city, and YOW is an international airport but current...
Jump to postThe Antigua PM has conceded no other governments are at present interested in LI. Do you guys suspect this is the end for LI? It all depends on what ANU decides to do. LI is a major employer there and the loss of that many jobs would be detrimental to the country. The trouble of course is what role...
Jump to postIt will be interesting to see how all of these routes work out for JY and 3S. Of the latter I could see SLU and the already-flown FDF working well. PTP could also work but DOM will likely be a bit of a fight as LI remain a force there in their diminished form. JY and BW also serve the DOM route from...
Jump to postI recall reading some time back that LI's ATRs (both 42s and 72s, all series 600) have the top-rated engine configurations fitted. This is ostensibly to enable LI to fly full loads reliably from their short-runway destinations (mainly DOM, EIS and, at that time, SVD). This sort of arrangement would...
Jump to postFascinating thread. All I will add is that the BA Caribbean network from Gatwick is very profitable for them especially in Premium cabins. My sources within BA mention very high loads on most flights. I really believe that Virgin has missed a trick here by leaving Gatwick to the Caribbean to BA. Op...
Jump to postIf they found another 42-500 I will be genuinely surprised. They are hard to come by. Not many spare frames laying around. I assume what was meant is that the ATR up North is coming down to the EC. I'm sure they're frames out there that JY can pick up. Even some of LIs former aircraft haven't found...
Jump to postI found it very interesting when I read that BA was not selling UVF-TAB routings on their new tag flights linking the islands. BA do have the legacy route rights to link the islands (a BOAC inheritance). Perhaps as was mentioned earlier they decided not to apply to activate the rights and link the i...
Jump to postIt's not altogether surprising that BW would return to CCS, it's a route with significant social and cultural ties for them. It more importantly is a bit of a political route and can perhaps be likened to the Parliamentary Routes operated by train companies in the UK. To describe those to illustrate...
Jump to postVS has been reverting to its Virgin Atlantic roots by focusing on transatlantic routes in collaboration with DL. For example, on the crucial LHR-JKF route VS has three daily flights and DL has two, and they do of course code-share on each others' flights. There's much more money to be made here tha...
Jump to postVS will reduce its LHR-ANU service from May 11 - October 28. During that time, the flight will operate once weekly as a tag on from BGI. Very clear power play by VS IMO, re: ANU Government's decision prior to COVID on subsidies they had requested. VS just this month increased LHR/ANU from 4X to 5X ...
Jump to postIt's interesting to hear about SXM and that its AF flights from Paris run from CDG rather than ORY. The TX matter notwithstanding, does anybody know why this is the case? As is well known AF's Caraibes network is heavily ORY centric with multiple dailies to PTP and FDF along with services to CAY. Is...
Jump to postHello and Happy New Year 2023 to everyone on this vibrant forum. May it continue to entertain and inform in equal measure as it has for so many years. The POS market's ongoing slump in flights compared to the faster recovery of other regional markets is duly noted. I remain convinced that the foreig...
Jump to postEven if BA gets approval for LGW-POS-TAB, I highly doubt the GovT&T will allow cabotage between POS & TAB. The T&T Government would not allow BA to fly passengers on the domestic route. Aside from that, it would be highly inefficient to use the heavy Boeing 777 on 12-minute flights. The...
Jump to postSo lots have been happening in the Caribbean aviation scene. First of all, well done Guyana. The lifting of the UK visa requirement will certainly help the viability of the new BA flights between GEO and LGW starting next year. It's great to have some good aviation news for a change. VS's impending...
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