"On February 9, 2024, UAL conducted a test flight on the event airplane at EWR and was able to duplicate the reported rudder system malfunction identified during the incident. As a result, the test flight profile was discontinued, and the airplane returned to EWR and landed uneventfully."...
Jump to postThis worrisome and absurd. I cannot imagine Boeing being unaware that the NTSB needed information on all aspects of what went down when the door was worked on. What was documented, what was not, who did what and where. And everyone volunteering to offer all information they have. Pronto! This is acc...
Jump to postNTSB chair criticizes Boeing for lack of cooperation in 737 Max 9 probe https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/06/ntsb-chair-criticizes-boeing-for-lack-of-cooperation-in-737-max-9-probe-.html The head of the National Transportation Safety Board on Wednesday criticized Boeing for failing to provide some key r...
Jump to post”The separation of the MED plug from the airplane adversely affected the pressurization performance of the airplane”
LOL. One way of putting it, well done NTSB.
The story about the painting over of rivets that should have been fixed, the incompatible management systems, the lines clogged by planes being reworked for multiple different problems, shipped airframes from Spirit that are not complete, hundreds of misdrilled holes in pressure bulkheads, arguments...
Jump to postIt has been entertaining to watch the incident also appear in the late night comedy space. “1,500$ may not sound much but that’s how much we paid for the plane” “The NTSB or the Nut Sub” https://youtu.be/tipGW16jh-0?si=EvKPG099xF3cAiXw (Jimmy Fallon) https://youtu.be/kmAKZFPpbOU?si=Vb9PFDWYBDadZyEY ...
Jump to postLet’s remember that the goal here is to prevent an occurrence of this problem again. Not finding guilt in any particular party. Check other airplanes similarly manufactured or worked on, to establish whether this is a one off or a repeated problem. Determine what happened to understand whether the r...
Jump to postIn Sweden we have this old professor in criminology, He is quite frequent on tv and often mention his catch phrase "Hata slumpen" (hate the coincidence). While he is uses it in crime related discussions, I think it can be used for this incident too. We know this kind of door plugs have be...
Jump to postwjcandee wrote:…
including the possibility of the absence of some fasteners
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I seriously question whether all the fasteners were installed in the first place. If they were, and they were the right fasteners, then it seems like a basic and pervasive issue with their attachment.
...two people familiar with the aircraft tell The Air Current that the aircraft in question, N704AL, had presented spurious indications of pressurization issues during two instances on January 4. The first intermittent warning light appeared during taxi-in following a previous flight, which prompte...
Jump to postI’m surprised that the plug door design really is simply a bolted piece of metal. Not a plug. So those bolts really have to work or else bang! What could even in theory be the reason for this? The bolt must have been there, else this plane wouldn’t have survived six weeks. Overtorque seems like a po...
Jump to postThere's a lot of discussion of the details. I want to get back to some bigger picture issues for a moment. Runway incursions and close calls have been happening in recent years at an alarming rate. FedEx vs. Southwest in Austin etc. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_aircraft_near-miss_inc...
Jump to postHaven‘t seen this posted yet: NHK reports the CG captain told investigators that he had received takeoff clearance. However no further details have been reported. This clearly contradicts what is known so far. https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20240103/k10014307751000.html Well, the captains would n...
Jump to postOr they rear-ended the tail-plane/vertical stabilizer of the Dash-8 and the damage to the right side of the fueslage was from the spinning props... Thanks. This seems likely, actually. We've now seen the map of the airport and if the Dash-8 was preparing to take off it should have faced the same di...
Jump to postxwb565 wrote:Those rotating bits on the wing of the dash-8 tend to do all kinds of damage when flying around
It could even look like an exit hole, if something hit the nose and it exited from the right side of the aircraft...
Jump to postPhoto of radome and nose: https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyertalk.com-vbulletin/900x420/1704193511_01630db3af80627b1eb94ace0ace70cb341ee0a7.jpeg Interesting! What hit the nose on the right side? (Left in the picture) I would guess the wing of the Dash 8. I can't see any other possibility for the...
Jump to postwashingtonflyer wrote:
According to BBC, one theory is that the transponder was "fried" when the pilot ejected. Hmm... well that's a theory. See https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66850422
Jump to postIt is hilarious. I guess the pilot learned what that handle does. This also reminds me of the recent accident in Finland where a Hawk crashed in May 2023. Both pilots ejected safely. The plane was destroyed. But the thing was that this same plane had seen another ejection in 1988 in a landing accide...
Jump to postThis was a great interview byScott Purdue, of the back seater:
https://youtu.be/Ftcn3NwAZCI?si=zDrCgriuHXHTxfC5
Thoughts?
GalaxyFlyer wrote:EFVS or EVS
https://youtu.be/Jp1NgT6Q3FE https://i9.ytimg.com/vi_webp/Jp1NgT6Q3FE/mq1.webp?sqp=CMDOhp8G-oaymwEmCMACELQB8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-CYAC0AWKAgwIABABGGUgYyg9MA8=&rs=AOn4CLBVXysPEIarEHjHygZYp-SCx7G7jA Thank you. Until now, this case was just numbers… but this video really drove it home how dangerous and c...
Jump to postFedEx was clearly busy and this was time critical, hence lack in clarity/length of their radio call. And it wasn’t their place to call instructions to Southwest but no one else was, so an exceptional situation.
Jump to postThe rear fuselage holes and split are interesting. How did that happen, even on a high speed excursion?
Jump to postInteresting that they applied enough force to separate the control columns through the torque tube mechanism, but didn't notice at the time, or report excessive force. Confusion. Deadliest pilot flaw… Anyway, for decade or more we’ve been told at a.net how safe Boeing aircraft are because you can f...
Jump to postUnfortunately there are many possibilities for what happened, and while several theories are interesting to discuss, nothing is confirmed until actual information from the recorders is released. We just have to wait. Please don’t post your favorite theory as the certain thing.
Jump to postPerhaps to keep them current under a prolonged low-demand situation?
Jump to postFirst: Sad loss of 132 people. Then: The FR24 data is interesting. There seems to be an initial dive, recovery, and final dive phase. This still fits multiple theories: ⋅ Could have been spatial disorientation or some kind of other pilot mistake that caused the plane to start diving; they...
Jump to postIt was announced an hour ago, F-35. See https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000008464967.html
Jump to postThe news are reporting that the government will provide more information about the purchase today. The deal may be decided today.
See https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000008464967.html
I'm very glad that this event turned out fine in the end. But it is interesting how a quickly a single situation (alarms, a rare go-around) can confuse/startle one person. And how this lead to two pilots being confused / uncoordinated in the cockpit, and then how computers and and two confused pilot...
Jump to postAlso reported here:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pl ... 021-07-06/
Obviously, world situation has changed after they ordered these planes. Back then... they needed a lot of capacity. Now, if they have an option to get out of orders, they will surely try to use that. In fact, it would be irresponsible to not do so. Of course, we are not privy to the details in the c...
Jump to postLikely safer too, remember SS2 has in the air and in an earlier ground explosion at the facility, killed people. If New Shepard gets pax on board in the near future it could have that part of the market if not to itself, then a distinct advantage. I'm not sure we can compare the safety merely on th...
Jump to postLooks mostly like composite fairing damage. Still expensive but not the end of the world. Interesting picture! We've discussed this at length in various incidents, but obviously the only problems are not those that you can see on from the outside. Heat damage needs to be assessed to internal struct...
Jump to postI would call for some careful thinking before dismissing fairing damage as a non-event. The discussion here basically went along the lines of "not so dangerous, because it is not the hull", so "nothing to see here". But we don't yet know what hit the fairing. We also don't know w...
Jump to postA googling of the registration reveals this photo: https://i.imgur.com/Zq5MyG1.jpg I can't imagine how seeing that view from a life-raft must feel. How long was it before they were rescued? http://aerossurance.com/emergency-response/pilatus-pc-12-pacific-ditching/ Amazing photo!
Jump to postPreliminary accident report is out: Here's an extract: "The flameout occurred just after the copilot transferred the last usable fuel from the rear tank. She shut off the transfer pump with fuel still visible in the transparent pressurized line, but the low fuel pressure indicator illuminated ...
Jump to postYes, but, they stll named their ship "Prisoner of War"??
(Or is it Pool of Water?)
The vaccines will not appear in large quantities on one day, the manufacturer will be able to produce a certain amount per day. I think it was reported north of a billion units during 2021. But these will be on all days, and going to many places in the world, and many places within the destination c...
Jump to postThere's a lot of deck chair arrangements in this thread, plus some blaming of governments as if that's the one that is preventing people from travelling. I think the reality is that demand has taken a massive hit, and even a big permanent hit. Business travel will not return to the same level it was...
Jump to posta tiny amount of the material had been trapped within a bore hole less than 2mm across.
It was a thin aluminium can, and it was in engulfed massive fire. There's no way it could have survived even the short time needed to reach Le Bourget. And yes, the fire was sufficiently around the aircraft structure to cause a major problem: https://bucket.mg.co.za/wp-media/2019/03/a3533fc4-contine...
Jump to postTTailedTiger is making this about the action and fight. But it wasn't about that it - as usual with many situations - it was about *information*. TTailedTiger has the information today, but he didn't have it at 2001, nor did anyone else. At the time, the scenario was thought to be well understood an...
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