Re: Southwest nearly hits LGA tower

Criticism isn't about not landing in pretty bad conditions, criticism is about loss of situational awareness and failure to respond to deviation - dangerous deviation some would add. Understood, but it seems to have been definitively concluded already that these guys balled it up, when there’s a ch...

Re: Heathrow: N or S runway for landings on given day?

Thanks for all the replies. As usual, this site doesn’t disappoint when it comes to the odd question.

Interesting about no (or very rare) 09L departures. I had been wondering when we’d see that configuration. I will stop waiting

Heathrow: N or S runway for landings on given day?

London Heathrow LHR/EGLL question: I’ve been watching one of the live streams* of arrivals/departures off 27R/09L and it seems the airport dedicates one runway to landings and the other to takeoffs, but which one is which changes from day to day. So what factors are at play in determining whether th...

Re: Southwest nearly hits LGA tower

Haven’t looked at the weather data in detail (and not just metars but the fine-scale conditions aloft). However, it’s possible that the SW crew got the short stick in the draw and just happened to arrive in the worst conditions of the day in terms of turbulence, windshear, and crosswinds . Would be ...

Re: UA 737-800 Loses Body Fairing In Flight

Hmm, that’s not a piece that just fell off, that’s an actual material fracture. Perhaps the piece came loose and then the force of the airstream did the rest by ripping it off.

Re: Rest of New England Aviation - 2024

I have had a FlightAware alert on the BCS types for most of their service history. It has only ever triggered once - when a Delta flight filed a diversion when BOS was having bad weather. It ended up going somewhere else, though, so I am pretty confident saying that this was the first BCS/A220 at B...

Re: Rest of New England Aviation - 2024

I'm booked on the inaugural Breeze BTV-TPA, and the flight is about 3/4th booked with people who have pre-bought seats, meaning it's probably pretty close to being full. Nicest is full aside from 2 seats, Nicer is full and Nice has the rest of the open seats. Promising start hopefully, will post ag...

Re: Rest of New England Aviation - 2024

BTVB6Flyer wrote:

BTV with what appears to be a route announcement tomorrow and it's looking to be RDU on Breeze via Ishrion on Twitter.

Re: 9X246 (Southern Airways Express) lands on highway near IAD

As busy as the roads are around DC, that’s a great outcome. Well done to the pilot for carrying the day (I assume it was single-pilot ops).

Re: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024

It's always been surprising to me how little nonstop service BTV had to Florida (AA to MIA seasonally). Many have tried BTV-Florida nonstop over the years, it just hasn’t stuck very well for whatever reason. JetBlue, Allegiant, Frontier… Even Air Florida tried BTV for a short time back in the day, ...

Re: Breeze Airways News and Discussion - 2024

It's always been surprising to me how little nonstop service BTV had to Florida (AA to MIA seasonally). Many have tried BTV-Florida nonstop over the years, it just hasn’t stuck very well for whatever reason. JetBlue, Allegiant, Frontier… Even Air Florida tried BTV for a short time back in the day, ...

Re: Breeze Airways - News and Discussion - 2023

Thanks to all for the reports from the inaugural at PBG. Very fun to read. Definitely distinct markets. PBG is essentially a Montreal alternate airport with some local traffic in the North Country. BTV serves northern and central Vermont and some Montrealers, but far less proportionally than PBG. An...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

All of the above makes sense to me, except that I don't think it is a case of redeploying the E190s to make more money elsewhere. I think it is to retire the E190s and free up slots to make more money flying an A220 or A321 elsewhere. I bet you’re right. And I’m going to go out on a limb and say B6...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

Fair, but doesn't B6 have lower operating costs than the legacies? I wouldn't expect to see the same fares on B6 that I would see on UA, DL, or AA. Well, if I can put on my internet CFO hat, this is what we know from the ground: - B6 has been exercising capacity restraint at BTV (trending down to o...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

The duel PBG/BTV ops is a tad perplexing, sure PBG can reel in a tad more Canadians but BTV can get the same Canadians. It's really just an overlapping market. All it really does is probably keep Avelo out of the region, which strategically may make some sense if they are on some incentives. G4 ran...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

There have rumors of a new carrier coming to BTV; Breeze is bit of a surprise since they starting PBG as well. Great news for BTV! The duel PBG/BTV ops is a tad perplexing, sure PBG can reel in a tad more Canadians but BTV can get the same Canadians. It's really just an overlapping market. All it r...

Re: Breeze Airways - News and Discussion - 2023

With the launch of BTV, I really wonder how long MCO-PBG will last. It's pretty much the same market except PBG is closer to Montreal and has competing G4 service to SFB. BTV has the advantage of no competition on either route and a larger population base. Super interesting to see PBG and BTV run i...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

bval wrote:

Hi, neighbor! I’m an hour southwest of PBG in SLK.

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

Hi, neighbor! I’m an hour southwest of PBG in SLK. I’d love to see PBG takeoff as an airport but it seems like other than the EAS service it only works for snowbird operators to Florida right now, and those flights don’t get anyone to a major hub where you can connect onward to other destinations. ...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

Neeleman is long gone from any real position of power at B6. They could have closed BTV years ago if they weren't performing well. And there are stations still open with less flights than BTV. BTV also serves the Plattsburgh area and it's a quick flight for college students who are from NYC and Lon...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

Interesting, the BTV-MCO numbers don’t seem that impressive. As others have already suggested, the presence of PBG-Florida must be siphoning down that number. PBG is a shorter drive from Montreal and much of Southern Quebec. The Florida traffic up here relies on Canadian snowbirds crossing the bord...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

While I was not happy about it, and had liked B6, I wasn't surprised in the slightest. Even if for understandable reasons, they completely suspended service during Covid and as you said it never came back to anywhere close to what it was. Even before that, the flight times, connections, and prices ...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

I’ve followed all the replies in this thread, and in the jetBlue network thread, and I still don’t get the surprise at jetBlue’s BTV closure. It had dwindled down to 2 E190s / day. And so what if it was one of JetBlue‘s original cities? Sentimentality aside, that was 20+ years ago and shouldn’t fact...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

Here were the PDEW's of MCO-BTV/BGM/DBQ/AZO/LAN/ILM in Q2 2023 (Source: DOT Consumer Airfare Report Table 6, which can be found at https://data.transportation.gov/Aviation/Consumer-Airfare-Report-Table-1a-All-U-S-Airport-P/tfrh-tu9e): BTV-MCO - 53 ILM-MCO - 49 LAN-MCO - 46 BGM-MCO - 46 AZO-MCO - 44...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

WOW JetBlue pulling out of BTV "Additionally, the carrier will suspend a handful of routes as part of the DOT’s slot usage waiver program. These include: Boston-Newark (3x daily) Newark-Miami (1x daily) JFK-Burlington (2x daily) JFK-Washington/DCA (3x daily) Suspension of the Burlington route ...

Re: Woman killed on Lawn mower at BBW

A poster on another website looked at the flight trace for the aircraft in question and pointed out that the pilot flew a straight-in approach rather than a standard pattern. While this isn’t strictly forbidden, in this case it removed an opportunity to spot the mower from overhead and from a closer...

Re: Identify these aircraft in this 1976 vintage photo at TFN

#10 definitely has a high wing, so the Fokker is the most likely. Only other type I could think of is the Handley Page Herald. I admit I have come over to the F27 idea. I think the two dark “engines” on the left wing are actually the shadow of the inboard wing on the fuselage and the shadow of the ...

Re: Identify these aircraft in this 1976 vintage photo at TFN

Are we sure that #10 is an F27 and not a Lockheed Electra? It looks like it has two engines on the right wing, and has the general look of an Electra.

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

BTVB6Flyer wrote:

With Breeze announcing PBG today, I assume that takes BTV out of getting Breeze service. Up to Avelo I guess now.

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

ATC doesn't really dictate where aircraft will divert to. Mostly that is up to the airlines themselves. In this case maybe they changed their ALA to BTV to buy a little holding time in hopes the weather cleared. Maybe the other airports were full up. There are so many factors going into where dispa...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

BTV handled a few transcon diversions from BOS on Friday (weather-related, presumably). B6 LAX-BOS A321 B6 LAS-BOS A321 UA IAH-BOS A320 This doesn’t happen very often. It’s more typical for the BOS transcon diversions to go to the upstate NY airports (SYR, ROC, ALB) and BDL. So it seems like it was ...

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

BTV-ATL was served for a period in the 2000s, stopped in 2009, and resumed again in 2013. I’ll let others debate whether that qualifies as “decades” of service.

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

evank516 wrote:

So no, BTV-ATL has NOT been served that long. They didn't even fly to CVG. It is a relatively new route.

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2023

I do E-W connections to BTV a few times a year. I’ve done SFO-DTW-BTV as well as SJC-SLC-DTW-BTV. DTW is a nice airport for connections, no doubt, but at 1x/day on a CRJ variant it’s unlikely to be my preferred routing for any given ticket purchase. Not when I have numerous options for E-W connectio...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

Gillbilly wrote:

What's up with the frequent DHC6 flights out of BTV and MHT on Grand Canyon Airlines?

Re: Unusual wing colours?

Not an airline, but the Frito Lay corporate Challenger in the early 90s time frame had beautiful ruby red / burgundy wings. This is the plane below, unfortunately not a good angle for the wings, but gives an idea of the red color. Was drop-dead gorgeous in person.

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

Burlington Airport renamed for Senator Leahy: https://vtdigger.org/2023/04/03/burlington-airport-to-be-renamed-for-former-sen-patrick-leahy/amp/ Didn’t see that coming. Joins what seems to be a growing trend of naming facilities after living individuals. Mineta San Jose International Airport (KSJC)...

Re: United Dropping Springfield, Il and Erie, PA

raylee67 wrote:

Interesting. Thanks for the details! Especially for BUF-YYZ. Can't imagine a route like that would ever happen now.

Re: United Dropping Springfield, Il and Erie, PA

What was the length before? 6500' of pavement with a 500' displaced threshold to the east. Usable, but more was needed for fuller loads, plus to meet the updated safety requirements and to not lose RJ capability. The runway was slightly shorter as recently as 1979, at 6000ft with no extra pavement ...

Re: GA Aircraft Crash: Duluth/Superior Harbor Area

MohawkWeekend wrote:

No mention of the ballistic parachute being deployed.

Re: Air Cargo Discussion - 2023

My guess is UPS being that the closest airports to Burlington we currently serve are Manchester, NH and Albany, NY - which are both about 2.5-3.0 hours away by road. I believe we currently serve BTV from MHT by turboprop. We recently added Bangor, ME to our daily rotation so BTV would be a nice add...

Re: Air Cargo Discussion - 2023

The wording of that sounds to me like they want an expansion of the cargo ramp to make it more attractive/feasible for any potential future suitor, not that one is already in the works. The "if we build it, they will come" strategy. Mm, good point. I’ll say this, though: I don’t know how ...

Re: Air Cargo Discussion - 2023

From a poster in the New England aviation thread (not me): BTV airport management, in the minutes of their commission meeting, stated that they are seeking to expand the cargo ramp at BTV to accommodate “a large cargo carrier that wants to come to Burlington Airport”. They also stated that the new r...

Re: Incident at PWM?

Weather has been a bit messy today: light snow, ice pellets, and gusty. Good crosswind for the long runway 11/29, but pretty much straight down the shorter 18/36. Not ideal, but PWM has certainly seen worse. Edit: looks like they had a brief burst of heavy snow the dropped vis to 1/4 mile. The only ...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

UPS is shoehorned into their space at MHT, so by adding BTV they can free up some space there. They could gain even more space if they ever added PWM. But in doing that, UPS at MHT would likely shrink. It’s only five flights because MHT is a mini sorting station for upper New England. Absent that, ...

Re: The Rest of New England Aviation - 2023

I saw this interesting item in the November BTV airport commission meeting minutes: "A large cargo carrier wants to come to Burlington Airport so more cargo space will be needed. Staff will apply for a design only FAA grant." And then in the draft December minutes "There was discussi...

Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BTV/HVN/BGR) Aviation Thread - 2022

According to the DL network thread, today’s schedule update has MSP-BTV returning next summer, Mo-Th-Sa, A320. The update also has MSP-PVD returning. I poked around AA’s summer 2023 schedule for BTV and, somewhat surprisingly, everything is on RJs. This is much different from this past summer-fall, ...

Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BTV/HVN/BGR) Aviation Thread - 2022

mjgbtv wrote:

IMO the route needs smaller aircraft and more frequency than what Allegiant and Frontier offered. I'm holding out hope for Breeze.

Re: The Rest of New England (BDL/PVD/MHT/PWM/ORH/BTV/HVN/BGR) Aviation Thread - 2022

It’s interesting that so few have been able to make BTV-Florida work, or work well enough to keep airlines from leaving for greener pastures. JetBlue, Allegiant, Frontier, all gone off the route. Only AA remains, 1x per week (and we’ll see if that lasts). If even the LCCs like Allegiant and Frontier...

Re: Time to talk about.....old airlines!

Though I’m too young to recount much of it in person, I’m fascinated by the commuter airline history of New England. Provincetown-Boston Airlines operated between 1949 and 1989 and at one point was the largest commuter airline in the US, flying all over New England and separately all over south Flo...