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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Airbus likely sold 10 A330neo jets to Delta
Replies: 104
Views: 14679

Re: Reuters: Airbus likely sold 10 A330neo jets to Delta

The A339 is fine as a TATL bird for DL. However, I think they made a big mistake cancelling the 787 order. The 788 and 789 would have been perfect out of SEA as an example, and could have opened up some new markets for them. MSP could have also benefited. Cancellation of 787 was the right decision ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flightglobal: Airbus A321XLR would have over 100t MTOW, range of 4700 nm
Replies: 89
Views: 12450

Re: Airbus A321XLR to have over 100t MTOW, range of 4700 nm

What it roughly means is they have got MOM range (4.500-5,000) effectively covered off.But (only) at ( one assumes) 206 pax in two classes.Obviously there can and will be a multitude of pax/range permutations but none will come close to the 250-270 two class size versions of the B797 as suggested i...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

What if all these AD's and everything are all put out there and the cause turns out to be human error or (god forbid) a suicide dive? Anything is possible, and there may be a human element. Suicide dive? What happened with EgyptAir 990 Yes I get that. I’m just wondering why it even relates, but I’l...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aren't AS' new first class due soon?
Replies: 10
Views: 1696

Re: Aren't AS' new first class due soon?

chunhimlai wrote:
Will ot be a flat with bathroom and bath tank and king size bed and sofa with masssge chair?


Yes. “Way, Way North of Expected”.

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aren't AS' new first class due soon?
Replies: 10
Views: 1696

Re: Aren't AS' new first class due soon?

They announced it all on the early side for PR value. I believe the seats are coming soon and uniforms in 2019 from what I remember.

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

rj777 wrote:
What if all these AD's and everything are all put out there and the cause turns out to be human error or (god forbid) a suicide dive?


Anything is possible, and there may be a human element. Suicide dive?

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Network Thread 2018
Replies: 843
Views: 79368

Re: JetBlue Network Thread 2018

I should have been more precise: "PRE-BOOKINGS do not look very good". Let's wait until people start getting cold. "Honey, let's go to Palm Springs and warm up". "He who waits, loses". "The early bird gets the worm". "You snooze, you lose". Not sure...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Exactly what I have been stressing but a lot of circling of the wagons on this site. All Max planes should be grounded until thorough inspection of the Max series is completed. Their should be a investigation of both Boeing as well as the US certifying body, they seem too closely entwined. Just cur...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Network Thread 2018
Replies: 843
Views: 79368

Re: JetBlue Network Thread 2018

Looks like loads on BOS-PSP are horrible... Lets revisit this in a couple of months... maybe a week or two before the first flight. I should have been more precise: "PRE-BOOKINGS do not look very good". Let's wait until people start getting cold. "Honey, let's go to Palm Springs and ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

"Southwest, American pilots unions question 737 Max documentation after Indonesia crash" "Two U.S. pilots' unions say the potential risks of a safety feature on Boeing Co.'s 737 Max aircraft that has been linked to a deadly crash in Indonesia weren't sufficiently spelled out in their...

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B787-10 future prospects?
Replies: 210
Views: 23353

Re: B787-10 future prospects?

The 787-10 is currently treated as an orphan. The Boeing Board has an embargo on 10 developments that encroach on the 777X family (other than the minimum specifically required to secure the EK order). With the benefit of hindsight, the 777 and 787 should be 'owned' by the same senior management tea...

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

747megatop wrote:
Is this the 1st incident where a brand new commercial jet crashed within a few weeks of entering service?


This question was asked earlier in the thread and multiple examples were shared of younger frames crashing. The GOL midair 737-800 was only 3 weeks old when it was lost.

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B787-10 future prospects?
Replies: 210
Views: 23353

Re: B787-10 future prospects?

Hey all. With Etihad and United having both received their 1st B787-10 I wanted to re-examine future sales? 1. What’s the hold up on Emirates firming their order for 40? 2. Have the leasing companies managed to place more apart from with KLM and EVA? 3. American Airlines replacing 777-200’s? So UA ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines starts repainting Airbus fleet
Replies: 499
Views: 105575

Re: Alaska Airlines starts repainting Airbus fleet

First 737-700 with new interior (N619AS) is back from being retrofitted and comes online this weekend or early next week. First Airbus series (I assume A320) comes online mid- to late-November Any photos/video of this new interior? There's a picture at the very end of this article. https://www.flig...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Antarius wrote:
Request - can we please split the discussion on radar to a different thread? Its tangential to this one at this point and is hard to follow the core thread subject.


I second the motion.

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by PlanesNTrains
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.
Replies: 94
Views: 14953

Re: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.

1. Man boards and is visibly lethargic/unhealthy. 2. Prior to closing the door, the FA sees him hunched over and tries to get his attention to make sure he is ok. 3. While trying to rouse him, family mentions that he is recovering from a stroke and on meds. 4. FA consults with pilot or other WS pers...

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by PlanesNTrains
Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:36 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.
Replies: 94
Views: 14953

Re: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.

So someone who's resting is a danger during an evacuation but someone who literally can't walk or is blind or is old and frail is just fine? Perhaps someone with a legally protected disability is handled differently than some who’s in a medically-induced coma that didn’t get permission ahead of tim...

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by PlanesNTrains
Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.
Replies: 94
Views: 14953

Re: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.

So someone who's resting is a danger during an evacuation but someone who literally can't walk or is blind or is old and frail is just fine? Perhaps someone with a legally protected disability is handled differently than some who’s in a medically-induced coma that didn’t get permission ahead of tim...

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by PlanesNTrains
Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:03 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.
Replies: 94
Views: 14953

Re: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.

Not ridiculous at all. I think it is silly to fly so soon after having a stroke as you are treating a brain that is recovering from a lack of oxygen with an atmosphere that is lower on oxygen. Maybe a sleeping pill will mask syntoms of a complication of a stoke. Maybe the passenger had not told the...

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by PlanesNTrains
Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.
Replies: 94
Views: 14953

Re: Man removed from WestJet flight after falling asleep prior to takeoff.

Not ridiculous at all. I think it is silly to fly so soon after having a stroke as you are treating a brain that is recovering from a lack of oxygen with an atmosphere that is lower on oxygen. Maybe a sleeping pill will mask syntoms of a complication of a stoke. Maybe the passenger had not told the...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Out of interest, is Lion air SOP to have the departure manually flown or am I misunderstanding the data. If the flight was being flown by the flight director / autopilot then the aircraft would I assume automatically compensate increased speed due to altitude loss with the engine throttle and even ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 10 yrs since DELTA & NORTHWEST merge!
Replies: 133
Views: 11700

Re: 10 yrs since DELTA & NORTHWEST merge!

klm617 wrote:
I think NW/CO would have faired much better than DL/NW


I can’t imagine how that is even possible? MEM? CLE? Nothing west of MSP or IAH for connections?

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

Airbus old delivery outlook was: new delivery outlook is: Hard to see trickery here, just outlook update. True. Were those Airbus quotes? From Airbus press releases: https://www.airbus.com/investors/financial-results-and-annual-reports.html Aside from that, you’re cool with labeling anyone who disa...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

Only Boeing fanboys care. Even when Boeing said in the summer of 2007 that they will fly the 787 in the fall that year and first flight happened at the end of 2009 nobody seemed to care and we are talking orders of magnitude different things in that case. That’s rich coming from you. And are you su...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

Airbus old delivery outlook was: • Airbus targets to deliver around 800 commercial aircraft, without the A220 Family. • On top, around 18 A220 deliveries are targeted for H2. new delivery outlook is: • Airbus targets to deliver around 800 commercial aircraft in 2018, now including around 18 A220 ai...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

That’s rich coming from you. And are you suggesting that FlightGlobal are Boeing fanboys? I think that FlightGlobal article was quite neutral and they just repeat what Airbus said. They not write about trickery, what someones here do. Would you be happy if Airbus said that they expect around 780 de...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

You seem to be a super hyper Boeing fan boy, fighting of attacks that have not happened or will never happen. I care about things that matter, If Airbus delivers 780 frames this year or 800 frames by coopting A220 deliveries since July this year, who cares? Well it’s Airbus’ credibility so I’d assu...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: California Pacific Airlines has a start date! November 1st
Replies: 216
Views: 36276

Re: Updated: California Pacific Airlines has a start date! November 1st

That’s Weird, I will post the screenshot of it on my story on Instagram (which is: Gerardi-Aviation-Photography ) because I can’t figure out how to post it on airliners.net Weird response from them but with a tiny operation they’re probably deciding things on the fly. I wonder if your Instagram DM ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Any maintenance that involves air speed indicatior altitude, primary flight system or major parts of the plane, a test flight must be performed. Changing light bulbs? no need test flight. Use common sense. I’m not educated on the topic - can you summarize the accidents that would have been avoided ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

As I read the Flight Global article, I was wondering how long it would take for A.net to come out and put a negative headline spin to that. I just knew if would not be disappointed. It was not question of if, just a question of when, and by whom . . . :rotfl: I was wondering how long it would take ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta submits binding offer for Alitalia
Replies: 3
Views: 1978

Re: Delta submits binding offer for Alitalia

Well, they use the refinery as a hedge against rising fuel prices. Maybe they’ll use Alitalia as a hedge against increased earnings.

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: California Pacific Airlines has a start date! November 1st
Replies: 216
Views: 36276

Re: Updated: California Pacific Airlines has a start date! November 1st

You sure about that? I don't see the change on their website or Social media. I sent them a DM on Instagram and that’s what they told me. I don’t know how to upload the photo otherwise I would. I called CA Pacific and they said that the inaugural flights are still on for tomorrow. I wonder if someo...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: California Pacific Airlines has a start date! November 1st
Replies: 216
Views: 36276

Re: Updated: California Pacific Airlines has a start date! November 1st

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
wedgetail737 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
The inaugural launch has been postponed until Friday November 2nd


You sure about that? I don't see the change on their website or Social media.


I sent them a DM on Instagram and that’s what they told me. I don’t know how to upload the photo otherwise I would.


That’s a pisser.

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

In 2014 John Leahy and other Airbus honchos held a press conference to announce a recently signed order with Amedeo,a leasing company. Leahy proudly announced " This FIRM order from Amedeo is a clear recognition of the A380's long-term market appeal" We later learned this was more of a re...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus revises 2018 delivery target
Replies: 138
Views: 12727

Re: Airbus resorts to trickery on delivery goal

It's not an issue including A220 deliveries. What is the issue is not increasing the target by an equal amount. It's not being honest with the delivery target. That's really what it comes down to. I'm not a fan of the inflammatory thread title nor the OP's approach to A v B, but this is a fair issu...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

teachpdx wrote:
With the mention of the elevator in the maintenance log, the erratic flight profile, and the sharp dive at the end, this really feels similar to AS261. Anybody else getting that vibe?


Not personally, but that doesn't mean there's not similarities.

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country adds BOS-LAS, JFK-LAS, LAX-LAS, SFO-LAS
Replies: 60
Views: 6403

Re: Sun Country adds BOS-LAS, JFK-LAS, LAX-LAS, SFO-LAS

They've added west coast-Hawaii. They've added some one-off LAS frequencies. They've added some PDX focus. They've added STS. They've added some other unique routes. For the size of carrier, what else could/should they be trying? I think that the markets that they have expanded into make a lot of s...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787 deferred production cost watch
Replies: 83
Views: 7743

Re: Boeing 787 deferred production cost watch

It might be a number of years from now but its going to be quite a day here on A.net when the deferred costs reach zero. That will be one thread worth a read :cloudnine: It will not reach zero, by definition. It is "deferred production cost", so as long as the aircraft is in production th...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3473
Views: 409028

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

rheinwaldner wrote:
Probably Kessje can be called out on his claims many times (as all of us could), especially as he is creative and sometimes provokingly biased.


Now was that so hard? :-)

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

PotatoPappas wrote:
PlanesNTrains wrote:
KICT wrote:
This airline needs to be shut down. They are out of control.


And I’m sorry but what caused this crash?



It's not only this crash, they have a history of terrible CRM and safety.


Let's just let it go. You've got your mind made up so what more is there to discuss?

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country adds BOS-LAS, JFK-LAS, LAX-LAS, SFO-LAS
Replies: 60
Views: 6403

Re: Sun Country adds BOS-LAS, JFK-LAS, LAX-LAS, SFO-LAS

They've added west coast-Hawaii. They've added some one-off LAS frequencies. They've added some PDX focus. They've added STS. They've added some other unique routes. For the size of carrier, what else could/should they be trying?

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3473
Views: 409028

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Unfortunately it also falls into the category known to modern linguists as weasel words : You are aware that any statement about the NSA, which is not labeled with one of these words ("maybe", "imo", "imho" or others that separate a personal from a factual statement) w...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3473
Views: 409028

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

PlanesNTrains states this thread should be kept open because it's a discussion about the potential 797/Airbus response etc.Thats fair.So no need for the continued personal attacks which have instantly restarted .Best to open another thread for that - if it is felt necessary! Some try to divert atte...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3473
Views: 409028

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

- maybe means, well, "maybe". See? Unfortunately it also falls into the category known to modern linguists as weasel words : n: a word used in order to evade or retreat from a direct or forthright statement or position Wiki ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word ) gives us a fuller d...

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

And to state the obvious, I’m not an investigator and I’m not investigating this incident. For those reasons, I don’t need to personally entertain every theory, whether it be pilot suicide, terrorist attack, floated into outer space, or anything else we read in these threads. The investigation will...

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

... or they have mistakenly full powered into the drink. Only mistakenly? Or intentionally too? Could the flight data we've seen show some kind of in-cockpit-struggle followed by a intentional dive? I also thought about that. Ala Germanwings, only in this scenario, both pilots are inside the cockpi...

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country adds BOS-LAS, JFK-LAS, LAX-LAS, SFO-LAS
Replies: 60
Views: 6403

Re: Sun Country adds BOS-LAS, JFK-LAS, LAX-LAS, SFO-LAS

heretothere wrote:
Guys, they only added these routes for CES in early January. Time to calm down


Me thinks this has fallen on deaf ears.

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

One humble request would be to read the thread before postulating on what you think might have happened. Not trying to quell dialogue but things change quickly and if you aren’t up to speed it can create a lot of unnecessary speculation. Just a thought.

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 1364
Views: 296153

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

... or they have mistakenly full powered into the drink. Only mistakenly? Or intentionally too? Could the flight data we've seen show some kind of in-cockpit-struggle followed by a intentional dive? We know the previous flight had an unreliable airspeed issue. We know this plane flew some erratic f...

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3473
Views: 409028

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

So to be clear, Keesje, 757/767 fleets with the US majors don’t count, what we think Airbus will produce re: 320v321 is more accurate than what is actually booked, and by adding “maybe” you are signaling that you’re just throwing stuff out there to see what sticks? Are you able to clarify what you b...

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