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by Revelation
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

It also makes me wonder what role the 4th XFW line plays in all of this. Was it less helpful than planned therefore a lot of rework is needed? Was it more helpful than planned therefore the manpower will be spent on rolling it out over all the lines? Did it enable a lot of more optimizations and mo...

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by Revelation
Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing has held takeover talks with Embraer: WSJ
Replies: 493
Views: 53275

Re: Boeing has held takeover talks with Embraer: WSJ

What sort of resources would Boeing need to put up for Embraer to give a JV it's commercial division and only get 20% of the company for it? I think you are missing the part where Boeing will pay money to Embraer. It isn't just Embraer handing over their commercial business and getting 20% back. Ye...

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by Revelation
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 107
Views: 20241

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

How likely the problem will be on the T7000 as well? That’s an interesting question since this engine isn’t in service. You won’t see an AD on it at this point. RR has been somewhat vague about this. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/rolls-royce-to-update-trent-7000-parts-in-wake-of-tr-447...

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by Revelation
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I wonder what that says about earlier efforts to optimize the production line for rate and for cost. First it says - that building an airliner is difficult - that building an airliner with good quality is really difficult - that building lots of airliners with good quality is super difficult - that...

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by Revelation
Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Typically if you wait to do all the engineering before you launch the programme, you would put your business at huge risk of a massive multi $Bn bill for nugatory NRE, and delay the launch infeasibly. It seems more likely to me that increasing numbers of engineers are being deployed in order to try...

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by Revelation
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 Scrapping
Replies: 65
Views: 15729

Re: 787 Scrapping

jeffrey0032j wrote:
ILNFlyer wrote:
Are these the unsold terrible teens that are being scrapped?

LN 5 was a test frame. All the terrible teens have been sold.

So, a "terrible toddler" instead.

Slash787 wrote:
They could have given this to Iran Air

In essence the early birds are too heavy and too hard to maintain.

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by Revelation
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus weighs response if Boeing launches new mid-market model
Replies: 1000
Views: 200780

Re: Airbus weighs response if Boeing launches new mid-market model

JayinKitsap wrote:
380 - 6 per month coming soon. 5 years ago the expected rates were 35 to 40 per month combined, not 20 per month. This hurts as the fixed costs of production can be spread to fewer deliveries.

Per year, not month...

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by Revelation
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

rheinwaldner wrote:
I have seen huge projects launched, where nearly any expert just by gut feeling predicted that it would not deliver as promised, and they were proven right after some years.

And we've all seen A380... and 787... maybe it's time for a different approach...

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by Revelation
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I think the engineering moves around the A320neo are about finding any and all ways to produce it more cheaply. Fundamentally it makes sense. Any improvements on the current base are only going to increase cost. If you find out that you don’t have the space costwise to play with step 1 is to drive ...

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by Revelation
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus weighs response if Boeing launches new mid-market model
Replies: 1000
Views: 200780

Re: Airbus weighs response if Boeing launches new mid-market model

I think the engineering moves around the A320neo are about finding any and all ways to produce it more cheaply. Fundamentally it makes sense. Any improvements on the current base are only going to increase cost. If you find out that you don’t have the space costwise to play with step 1 is to drive ...

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by Revelation
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair buying Azores Airlines?
Replies: 20
Views: 5005

Re: Icelandair buying Azores Airlines?

KLDC10 wrote:
It's natural. Azores Airlines has an A330 with a giant marine-dwelling creature painted on the side... :duck:

Surely there must be some 757s involved in the transaction!

It's all about the fish, after all.

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by Revelation
Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

I'd also suggest Airbus just figured it out, too, since they joined Bombardier in their effort last year and just now walked away from the 320plus study. No amount of griping on a.net changes the fact that the single-aisle space is commoditized: a price race to the bottom. As long as Airbus is obse...

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by Revelation
Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Progress On JFK TWA Terminal 5 Hotel Project (PICS)
Replies: 96
Views: 17169

Re: Progress On JFK TWA Terminal 5 Hotel Project (PICS)

Thanks for the photos. The new building fits into the site well--if a little tight. Its minimal/modern design is a nice back drop to the Saarinen building. Here's an update on the twa hotel website that shows what the rooms will look like. https://www.twahotel.com/rooms "Ultra-Quiet Windows wi...

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by Revelation
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tim Clark: A380's advantages over twinjets still 'enormous'
Replies: 211
Views: 26450

Re: Tim Clark: A380's advantages over twinjets still 'enormous'

How can you guys finds so much to talk about on these A380 threads? Isn't it just the same bickering over and over again? I don't get how every A380 thread goes on for multiple pages. Especially since this one is not a result of any news, it's just TC saying yet again that he thinks A380s are wonde...

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by Revelation
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Why are you so sensitive when I suggest that for an NMA from launch to service it might be a good idea to conservatively assume 7-8 years, like recent programs (787, 777X) ? There's an on-going narrative here that NMA must be as big a project as 787 yet when you look at it with any sort of objectiv...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

The A380 also flew after 5 yrs & entered service after 7. I do not know what you are trying to suggest, but what is so strange about 7-8 years? Should we start telling each other Boeing (again) will do it in 4 years, clicking together finished modules in days? Would that make someone objective ...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Lets conservatively assume 7-8 years this time :scared: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/2004-04-26-Boeing-Launches-7E7-Dreamliner If you ever claim any sort of neutrality, this thread may be used as evidence against you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A380 says: In mid-1988, Airbus engineers led ...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 107
Views: 20241

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

Thanks for sharles, Revelation and Stitch for kindly enlightening the subtleties related to the word "drop" in this context... it should have been obvious in the first place but I read it as "The FAA AD limits to ETOPS to 140 minutes and other operating restrictions were dropped"...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 107
Views: 20241

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

The FAA AD limiting ETOPS to 140 minutes and other operating restrictions has dropped : http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgad.nsf/0/22de72bba2cd5b24862582720049094e/$FILE/2018-08-03.pdf No it hasn't. https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=FAA-2018-0299-0001 https://s3.amazonaws.co...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian
Replies: 227
Views: 28152

Re: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian

In short, many here are thinking of this as a strategic move (how could adding DY make more money right now for IAG?) vs a tactical move (how could adding DY make more money in the long term for IAG?). I don't mean to be pedantic, but purchasing Norwegian would be a strategic (long term) move for I...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

I'll reiterate what I said when Airbus offered the A380 Plus: If you can launch an NPV-positive project, then the broader context of the program economics do not matter. Some people have scoffed that "nobody should throw more money at the A380" or "Boeing doesn't want to sell any mor...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

keesje wrote:
Revelation wrote:
International aviation expert Keesje's sources tell him "this NMA seems a go", that's good enough for me! :biggrin:

That's affirmative, but hardly Breaking News.. :covereyes:

Now you decide to be modest? :biggrin:

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian
Replies: 227
Views: 28152

Re: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian

What's the point of NLH if it's not capable of being consistently profitable in the medium term? Great deals for the traveler but this is a clear bubble, if you complain that you can only afford to fly long haul due to NLH's lead in fares, then you're a loss making passenger in anyone's book. At wh...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Executives / unnamed sources close to the action "displaying interest", " eying", "discussing", "standing in line for" "being bullish" "building momentum" for the NMA/ 797. It's been going on for 4 years, but again and again it is brought ...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated Air Canada fleet plan calls for accelerated phase out of E190s, 767s to exit by the end of 2019
Replies: 119
Views: 20420

Re: Updated Air Canada fleet plan calls for accelerated phase out of E190s, 767s to exit by the end of 2019

Leeham ( https://leehamnews.com/2018/04/16/air-canada-sees-secondary-airport-need-for-nma/ ) reports AC CEO's enthusiastic remarks about a potential future role for Boeing NMA in AC's fleet: “There is a need for that size of aircraft that might be able to fill some number of seats that is smaller th...

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by Revelation
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2223
Views: 278815

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Leeham: Air Canada sees secondary airport need for NMA says: “There is a need for that size of aircraft that might be able to fill some number of seats that is smaller than the [Boeing] 787 and larger than a narrow-body, that you might be able to take to a secondary airport. When you look at the ra...

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by Revelation
Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 107
Views: 20241

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

FAA is following EASA lead and has issued AD: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-16/boeing-787-s-range-capped-by-faa-following-latest-rolls-glitch Boeing Co. 787 planes equipped with a batch of potentially faulty Rolls-Royce Holdings Plc engines face restrictions on how far they can fly...

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by Revelation
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes
Replies: 170
Views: 24659

Re: Air Asia X cancels A350. Decision on fleet expected later this year.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/airasia-x-wont-buy-too-expensive-airbus-a350-tony-fernandes/articleshow/63783949.cms It is blindingly obvious Fernandes wants a price reduction.... "The A350 is not an aircraft we will buy," AirAsia X co-group CEO Tony Fernan...

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by Revelation
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes
Replies: 170
Views: 24659

Re: Air Asia X cancels A350. Decision on fleet expected later this year.

Another huge win for the Dreamliner coming? Only if the price is right. I suspect that Airbus will no longer sit idly this time and will compete strongly with whatever Boeing will be offering Airasia X. This will be a huge order to lose and will also mean that the A330Neo programme may sink! Where'...

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by Revelation
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

If we consider the A321NEO Plus a stretch of the A321 and the A321 NEO Plus-Plus as having a new wing, I really can't see those folks now looking at new Plus Plus wing configurations being shifted to help resolve the engines delivery problems. This is not your typical local bakery with people givin...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 107
Views: 20241

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

Can anyone offer an explanation of the design and/or manufacturing differences between the affected part from Package A to B to C to TEN? The issue is mostly that turbine blades have had changes in the coating that helps give them thermal protection. Presumably the changes are made to allow higher ...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:46 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump signs FOSTA law
Replies: 50
Views: 1319

Re: Trump signs FOSTA law

What is actually wrong with legalised and regulated prostitution? Unfortunately, what's wrong with it is that it's more expensive to the consumer than unregulated and illegal prostitution. When you have to maintain health and safety standards, pay minimum wage, 401Ks, etc. it winds up costing more ...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Here we read that Boeing really can't carry much forward from 787 to 797 and that Boeing has not much choice but use barrels on 797 all in the same thread. :fever: :headache: :faint:

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:04 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Minnesota bracing for historic... uh... "winter" storm
Replies: 28
Views: 984

Re: Minnesota bracing for historic... uh... "winter" storm

mmo wrote:
I remember having snow in Maywhen we lived in MN. After all, everyone knows there are 2 seasons in MN, Winter and Road Repair!!

In Maine there are three seasons: Snow, mud and black fly.

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:44 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Repeated Topics
Replies: 13
Views: 759

Re: Repeated Topics

I've noticed a marked increase in a.netters posting topics that have already been posted or already discussed. There has been a rash lately especially when involving an aircraft accident. Why don't people take the time to look first before jumping the gun??? I guess they want to share the glory of ...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Facebook Executive Defended Data Collection In 2016 Memo
Replies: 41
Views: 1081

Re: Facebook Executive Defended Data Collection In 2016 Memo

I think public completely missed the point Zuckerberg was making. It is the users who voluntarily shared their private information with Facebook. Facebook didn't take anything from users. No wrongdoing from their side. I don't think there's any wrongdoing in a legal sense from FB, but I think they ...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 107
Views: 20241

Re: B787 RR Engine AD-ETOPS Restriction

True, but what if this problem goes on for years? In http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1391483 we have a quote: Even before today’s revelations Rolls-Royce had said a redesign of problem parts for the 787 wouldn’t be fully incorporated in the fleet until 2022. I think the indus...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Well Newbiepilot, Revelation, hopefully Airbus can deliver to what they committed to first” before moving on to an A320neo family upgrade. Unless fixing the engines takes more then 4-5 yrs of course. :shy: If the issue were just fixing engines, the resource shift would be happening at Pratt and not...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

But the main point still stands: I don't think 797 will be as big an effort as 787 turned out to be, for many different reasons. I'm afraid I'd call that wishful thinking ; I see no good reason why that would be the case. Your underlying argument is that the 797 would be to the 787 what the A350 wa...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Facebook Executive Defended Data Collection In 2016 Memo
Replies: 41
Views: 1081

Re: Facebook Executive Defended Data Collection In 2016 Memo

Factoid: Facebook was ranked in Dec. 2018 by Business Insider as the 4th most profitable company in the world, ahead of Apple, Google and MS, Per Employee . http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-facebook-alphabet-most-profitable-companies-per-employee-2017-12 Seems believable. FB is very highly valu...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 107
Views: 20241

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

Thank you for your post - very informative as always. But where did you get the information from that they are cutting spending on the UltraFan program? Thank you for the kind words. The info comes from the link in Reply #1 which says: Targets for the discretionary spending cuts elsewhere will incl...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:29 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Driverless Snowplows Are Clearing Runways In Norway
Replies: 9
Views: 1995

Re: Driverless Snowplows Are Clearing Runways In Norway

I think they just fitted an iRobot Roomba to the snowplow's controls! :biggrin:

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study Amazing how an unconfirmed rumour from unnamed sources grows into a strategic shift in a day. Welcome to 2018’s copy, source and next news culture. Reply #78 gives us a source named Airbus Chief Commercial Officer Eric Schulz. “We cannot fix everything at the same ...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

797 actually has less to develop because I think it will leverage more from the 787 program than A350 did from A380 (A350 had to develop CFRP panel technology), and 797 will take great advantage of 777x because of the fact that 777x has built an all new wing factory and in the process is learning a...

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by Revelation
Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian
Replies: 227
Views: 28152

Re: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian

Norwegian is attractive because of all those 787 and other planes they have on order. IAG buying Norwegian would be about getting rid of a pesky competitor but also acquiring a brand new and large 787 fleet with Rolls engines( like BA'S) for fleet replacement and expansion. Maybe IAG wants DY just ...

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by Revelation
Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 107
Views: 20241

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

This AD supposed to come out Friday. Where is it? Link to EASA AD (PDF format) issued Friday: https://ad.easa.europa.eu/blob/EASA_AD_2018_0084.pdf/AD_2018-0084_1 Leeham ( https://leehamnews.com/2018/04/14/faa-ad-may-severely-limit-etops-of-rr-powered-787s-sources/ ) says: An airworthiness directive...

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by Revelation
Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I would not be surprized if Boeing is a bit conservative on the 797. Using, 787, 777X and MAX technology. Most efficiency is to be gained from engines anyway. Providing enough space for some high BPR engines now and after 2030 is key. Long term MRO efficiencies could also drive design and material ...

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by Revelation
Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 251
Views: 27283

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

I don't know why anyone is throwing around $20 billion development costs for the 797, that is an absurdly high number. That would make the plane more expensive than the A350 program by several billion dollars. What was the last clean sheet program that Boeing delivered close to projected cost? Fact...

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by Revelation
Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?
Replies: 67
Views: 10728

Re: Since when does the A330neo have better performance than the 787?

Someone who works for VS posted on another thread a year or more ago that their relatively new 233K A333ceos costs less to operate when including capital costs than their 787-9s. Except for a few routes, like LHR-HKG, they could run the A333 rather than the 789 and be ahead cost wise . When the 788...

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