Re: MCI vs KCI

In the US, airport codes cannot start with N, W, or K. N is reserved for the Navy, W and K are not used to avoid confusion with FCC broadcast call signs. That is why Wichita is ICT, Newark is EWR, and Kansas city is MCI.

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2023

Some of you may find this to be an extremely stupid thought, or good thought depending on how you see it, but I’ve discovered how big the population of Michiganders is in Central Florida during spring training for the Detroit Tigers and it is BIG. Not only tourists but people who live in that area ...

Re: Detroit (DTW) Aviation Thread - 2022

TonyClifton wrote:

Biggest mistake was making C an RJ style operation rather than a “mini A” like B is.

Re: The Rest of Michigan Aviation Thread - 2022

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:

KarlB737 wrote:

Courtesy: MLive

Michigan’s Cheapest, Most Expensive Airports To Fly Out Of

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Re: The Rest of Michigan Aviation Thread - 2022

NoahV37 wrote:

I didn’t divide it, so it is both ways combined.

Re: The Rest of Michigan Aviation Thread - 2022

These are the top unserved markets from GRR in Q3 2021 Seattle- 164 San Francisco- 144 San Diego- 98 Salt Lake City- 87 . Is this daily passengers one way, or daily passengers in both directions? Assuming this is one way numbers, it seems like SEA on DL or AS and SFO on UA could work. SLC on DL als...

Re: The cost and reasons for building Northwest's DTW WorldGateway in 2000-2002

I always thought it was named after Robert McNamara....

Re: Turkish Airlines to start Seattle and Detroit

AshFlops wrote:

Starting in 2022, DEN will be United's biggest hub.

Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2020

The only overlap that FWA has with TOL is Defiance and Napoleon. Those closer to Toledo than Napoleon always use DTW as their non-TOL airport. The overlap between FWA and TOL is much greater than Defiance and Napoleon. I live in southern Michigan, 45 minutes from TOL. DTW is an hour and half. FWA i...

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

Just when I thought it was “safe” to participate in this thread again... <sigh> Th "Ignore" list is your friend! If we all start ignoring the users who make a mockery of this thread, we could get back to productive discussion. Of course the number of posts would be cut by 2/3! :duck:

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

winginit wrote:

(I believe the tower was built back in 1992?)

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

The mold contamination issue cropped up over a decade ago and there have been numerous attempts to clean-up or mitigate the mold infestation. There have been several lawsuits from sick employees and I believe OSHA has gotten involved. There was one time they actually had to evacuate the tower and i...

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

Once the Smith terminal is gone, immediate plans are to relocate the ATC tower there. Mold is apparently a huge issue at the current site. Regarding the ATC tower, much of that is dictated by the FAA as they tend to utilize a standard planning and design across multiple airports. DTW's tower was th...

Re: Delta Air Lines to ditch zone boarding in 2019

Delta's SVP: It won't be enforced unless they choose to use the "subway style" automated boarding lanes that lock out pax who try to board too early. The gate agents are not going to pull people aside after a passenger hides his phone face down until dropping it on the scanner and she fin...

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

klm617 wrote:

Not to mention that for most of those passengers DOH/DXB/IST was not even their final destination. Meaning that most had to double connect to get where they were going. That being said one of those 3 could easily make DTW work.

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

It really boggles my mind that there are people that would fly from DTW to FLL to connect to a flight to DXB. Just goes to show you how little people know about geography. I would never waste that much extra time flying that far out of my way to save a couple hundred bucks surely there are better o...

Re: Korean Air announces Boston

777Mech wrote:

It's rather good to see some connecting traffic taken away from DTW.

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

I for one was surprised to hear that DTW's North terminal carries more passengers than all of IND. I am sure no one is surprised that DTW has more passengers than IND, but the fact the small terminal carries more than IND is the interesting point here. DTW catches a lot of flack on A-net, largely du...

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Also, the increased amount of LCC/ULCC service at DTW with the rise of NK in particular likely causes more and more leakage to DTW with the fares/connectivity/nonstop options. I also suspect that DL has different pricing/revenue strategies than NW did at its peak. The fare difference in many cases ...

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

jplatts is a chatbot...a computer program. It's not an actual person. Its posts will always read like that with odd/awkward wording, repetitive information, and the like. It's quite annoying. It could be worse. Just be glad that the "poster who shall not be named" from the DTW threads doe...

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

dtw2hyd wrote:

I don't subscribe to this mass transit being a cheap alternative idea. Almost all systems are subsidized by local, state or federal governments.

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

... Building this 7 mile spur would be expensive, mainly because it would involve Eminent Domain to acquire property, and it would also involve bridging (or tunneling under) I-94 to get to the terminal. Not cheap, but still probably the least expensive option that is fully rail. Otherwise you are b...

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

But if somehow a train or light rail is built from Ann Arbor without a stop at DTW or atleast in the field by 94 with a proper connector to both terminals, well that would be the Detroit of the past and I like to hope we are past the past. The idea of an Ann Arbor to Detroit rail line that does not...

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

ICT is very believable not because there's a huge market but there is a good option for adding additional flow from ICT to connecting desinations, easily can be twice daily on a CRJ-700. I don't see it happening anytime soon. Back in 2010 Delta instituted a new policy that routes over certain dista...

Re: Annoucement: Airliners.net has been aquired by VerticalScope

bomber996 wrote:

Things I really miss about the old site and would like to see brought back: ....

Scroll over function for airport codes and airlines. .....

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 4

From BDL757's linked article: "Detroit Metropolitan Airport is on pace for a second straight increase in overall annual passenger traffic, but still may fall short of its all-time high set in 2005. Through November, Metro had 31.7 million passengers come through its gates, compared with 30.7 mi...

Re: Republic CSeries order change

What's the likelihood of the CS order being converted into a bunch of 76-seat CRJs? On paper, this seems like it could be a compromise — BBD would keep production lines running, and Republic would get a plane that they could actually fly for the majors under the scope clause. Absolutely 0. RJET is ...

Re: Is it possible for BA to resume DTW flights?

"A "better economy" is all relative - it's still a struggling, dying city, but I feel Detroit will be able to take advantage of Chicago's ongoing downfall and get on the up again." It is debatable if Detroit proper is still a struggling, dying city. It certainly was for a very lo...

Re: Is it possible for BA to resume DTW flights?

"VS gets use of the McNamara terminal , I doubt Delta would make room for BA in their terminal with VS around"
If BA does serve the route, they will be docking at the North Terminal, not the MAC.

Re: Is it possible for BA to resume DTW flights?

When AA and BA were approved for their trans- Atlantic joint venture a few years back many speculated that either BA would be back in DTW or AA would fly DTW to LHR with a 757. I for one thought it would happen. But since it has not happened yet, I will not be holding my breath.

Re: OAG Changes 8/5/2016:UA Drops SMX, UP+TPA-NAS

I really miss the "hover over" airport and airline codes rights now!

Re: Hover over of airline and airport codes?

I was wondering as well. I know a lot of them, but when I first started hanging out here, that feature was a God-send! Please bring it back!

RE: Detroit And The Future

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RE: JetBlue Reports Record Q1 Results

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RE: JetBlue Reports Record Q1 Results

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RE: DFW Foreign Carrier Estimated February 2016 Loads

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RE: DFW Foreign Carrier Estimated February 2016 Loads

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RE: IAG CEO Praises The C-Series

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RE: EAS Bids Due Today To Replace K5 At VIS/IPL/GBD

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RE: Legal Mess: 4 Kicked Off Flight For Looking Muslim

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RE: Pilots Are Too Reliant On Automation

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RE: OAG Changes 12/18/2015:AA+DCACLE/MSP.CLTMSN,ORDORF

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RE: OAG Changes 12/18/2015:AA+DCACLE/MSP.CLTMSN,ORDORF

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RE: De-hubbing PHX

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RE: DL Switching NBA Charter Fleet To 757

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RE: Sitting Next To AA COO In PHX Lounge

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RE: AA CEO Pay Now 100% Incentive-Based

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RE: Which US City Will Be Next Airline Hub

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