Could they have paved a one time use runway by now?
Although, as one of the posters on Avherald noted, with sanctions in place, the parts are extremely valuable. Probably more valuable than attempting to get the plane out.
Caspian27 wrote:
Someone at Southwest correct me if I’m wrong.
Interestingly, this plane flew back to MAD yesterday at FL410.
https://fr24.com/data/aircraft/ec-nbx#34b57005
[set RANT=ON] The media hysteria is deadly. More than 100 people die in auto accidents every day the USA. Almost 40,000 per year. Driving is FAR more dangerous than flying. The average person has about a 1-in-10,000 chance of dying in an auto accident every year. When the media obsess over highly-u...
Jump to postThis looks like a giant nothing burger. The deviation could have been caused with one serious gust of wind. Radar picks it up..pilot correcting and deciding. The ATC tower controller's tone made it sound worse than the situation. They were climbing and not going to "hit the tower". You sh...
Jump to postCan a mod change the title, southwest didn’t almost hit the tower, it flew 800 feet over the tower doing a go around. It did the go around because the Tower instructed it to. If it hadn't, it would have been a Very Bad Day. And that only happened because the controller saw the plane headed for the ...
Jump to postI just booked a flight to see it outside of Cleveland.
I was going to drive, but it’s about 6.5 hours each way. I understand I got the last nonstop seat from the whole DC area. W00t!
Had I known people were going to Dayton, I would have considered that.
I expected to see a southerly routing where the plane diverted when ATL was along the way. But no, this thing diverted near the Ohio-Pennsylvania border (around Youngstown) and the diversion was almost as long as the distance it had already traveled.
Jump to postHow deep is the water under the approaches? The span wouldn't have to be anywhere near 1.6 miles. There are plenty of suspension bridges with a span over four times the length of the Key Bridge. I agree with you that the suspended span would not need to be 1.6 miles IFFFFFFFFF the anchorages were i...
Jump to post1) the area to span is 1.6 miles long. That’s longer than the longest suspension bridge in the world. 2) the shoots are already required to stay in the channel. The Chesapeake Bay and the Patapsco river are not very deep. They have been dredged in a channel in the middle to allow the neopanamax shi...
Jump to postFrom interviews with the passengers on Israeli TV the event occurred seconds before touchdown and there were no two separate events, turbulence and windshear- looks like windshear as a sole event. Yup, the FlightAware track has them down to 300 before aborting, so it's safe to assume it was shear/m...
Jump to postI hope they make the main span longer than 1,200' when they build a new bridge. Also, I'm shocked more bridges these days that have piers in the water near navigable channels don't have ***very robust*** protection structures (artificial islands, dolphins, pile-supported systems). And the design of...
Jump to postWith the bridge out of action now I was looking at Google maps for what road traffic will have to do for the future. The detour looks to be around 7+ miles with Hwy895 taking the strain and it's a Toll rd. 895 and 95 are both toll tunnels under Baltimore Harbor. They are unsuitable for hazmat, whic...
Jump to postSeems plausible to me... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJtmSWGXQAABo2U?format=jpg&name=small Ref: https://twitter.com/mercoglianos/status/1773123345820614699 It comes via the guy who runs the "What's Going On With Shipping" u2b channel, Sal Mercogliano. Someone linked one of his videos ...
Jump to postThere is no quick fix and going forward a closed port is going to have a big impact on trade and jobs. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68681086 Didn't realise so much Fossil fuels went through there, and the ships currently stuck in port need to be elsewhere. It's a big coal port because...
Jump to postI do think the VAS video makes too much of “microburst” which are associated with thunderstorm activity where a vertical column of air is falling rapidly then spreading horizontally. Here, I’d say was a low-level jet stream at the forward edge of the front approaching NY. It’s a shear, but experien...
Jump to postFor the folks saying that the piers for bridges need to be hardened against ships accidentally hitting them, at least some engineers believe that no bridge can withstand a direct hit from a ship this size: No bridge pier could withstand being hit by a ship the size of the Dali, said Benjamin W. Scha...
Jump to postWell, the Chesapeake Bay Bridge was not too narrow in the late 1960s - built by people's taxes who were born about the time of WWI. Our turn to build the infrastructure we want. Strange you mention this because I have some family 35mm home movies of us transiting the Bay Bridge / Tunnel system shor...
Jump to postGalaxyFlyer wrote:Most is self-insurance.
VAS Aviation posted a video explaining more details. Of course this is not official but does provide some additional information regarding the minimum altitude on approach which looks to be around 200'. https://youtu.be/DPCTrHJn4H4?si=YzVjTgHXoCPAJZY4 It is starker than that. Between 150’ and 250’ ...
Jump to postI just read that the US President just said the federal government will pay to replace the entire bridge. I am disappointed. The USG should go after the owners AND the operators of the ship to recover damages. You shouldn’t be disappointed. It will take 10+ years to determine who is liable and star...
Jump to postNAV error? GPS fault? Errant wind gust? ABC, CBS, NBC---"Another issue with Boeing 737s". Did the tabloid networks also carry this as they caught this from last week? https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/close-call-southwest-flight-comes-within-200-ft-ambulance-baltimore-airport-another-sc...
Jump to postWatched President Biden's briefing. Glad to see that help is coming from the Federal government but did he mention anything about the responsible party paying for the damages? The dust has barely settled and no accident investigation has been conducted so it’s far too early to determine ‘responsibl...
Jump to postThis will the ruin of my favorite bypass of the whole Baltimore mess—Rt 301 and 50 into Annapolis. You LIKE the Bay Bridge?! Ewwww. It will be interesting to see where they go. I read that the fastest (and thus most economical) thing to do is to rebuild the bridge since it can reuse all the land ap...
Jump to postDoes it make sense to replace the bridge then ? Maybe make a tunnel ? It will be interesting to see where they go. I read that the fastest (and thus most economical) thing to do is to rebuild the bridge since it can reuse all the land approaches and the elevated sections that didn't collapse, but t...
Jump to postAesma wrote:Does it make sense to replace the bridge then ? Maybe make a tunnel ?
N757ST wrote:Can a mod change the title, southwest didn’t almost hit the tower, it flew 800 feet over the tower doing a go around.
Looks like hundreds of lives were saved when Maryland transportation folks shut down the bridge to traffic when the mayday was called. No vehicular traffic was on the bridge at the time of the collision. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/baltimore-key-bridge-collapse-traffic-stopped-collapse/story?id=10...
Jump to postThis is an immeasurable loss. Obviously the biggest losses are the lives. (Thank god this was overnight! We’d be talking about thousands of vehicle occupants in the water.) The ships at port are now trapped. The ships en route are now locked out. There’s a reason Baltimore grew bigger than its neigh...
Jump to postGalaxyFlyer wrote:The ILS mins are 283’, the radar altitudes look reasonable, just off course to east. Where do you see him over at neighborhood in Queens below 350’
I'm wondering who was doing the flying - Captain with the HUD, or FO who wouldn't have it. Seems like winds maybe were moving around a lot. METAR in the video claimed 16 knows right down the pipe, but on the first approach they reported a tail wind, so I'm confused what the real winds were. Winds c...
Jump to postVery good that this plane was flying DCA->DFW on this incident and not the other way around. Little coincidences like that always fascinate me about aviation incidents. If the brakes fail one flight earlier, we're possibly talking about a plane in the Potomac River. DCA has the arresting concrete a...
Jump to postYikes! https://youtu.be/xauO-7FH8qI?si=XTE5c8fVHHn5j6Nn https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/wn147#347b1b46 (look at 5:01 utc) WN 147, BNA-LGA arrived in the New York area with craptastic weather causing havoc at LGA. On a second landing attempt, LGA tower orders 147 to go around a second time...
Jump to postVery good that this plane was flying DCA->DFW on this incident and not the other way around. Little coincidences like that always fascinate me about aviation incidents. If the brakes fail one flight earlier, we're possibly talking about a plane in the Potomac River. DCA has the arresting concrete a...
Jump to postSo what about the pilots story that his instruments went blank? Did they really go blank or was the root cause of the incident accidental movement of the yoke - caused by the seat moving? If the latter then then why would the pilot make up a story to pax that was bound to be disproven or did the pa...
Jump to postThese things usually come in threes. So the wheel detachment at SFO, this skid at IAH. Any idea what's the third? So first, things don’t come in threes - people look for things in threes. Second, if you’re looking for a third, https://abc13.com/united-flight-plane-engine-catches-fire-bubble-wrap-su...
Jump to postWhere can I learn more about the 77W’s wings being “too small?” What makes them too small? The wing was optimized for the 772. Boeing offered the 773 as a simple stretch that would replace the 747 classics being used on regional Asia routes of under 7-8 hours. It wasn't until the late 1990s that th...
Jump to postWhere can I learn more about the 77W’s wings being “too small?” What makes them too small?
Jump to postI remember before the merger Us airways expressed early interest in the A350. US was the launch customer for the A350. But then few other airlines wanted it, and Airbus completely changed the A350 specification such that it was way too much plane for US. I don't think US's interest decades ago matt...
Jump to posthttps://www.instagram.com/reel/C3kiwrvIS5U/?hl=en I hear several impacts. Maybe a tail strike, the ILS antenna array, and some trees? The buffeting is rhythmic too. I wish the clip were longer to hear if that continued. They are barely climbing. The video ends and it looks like they’re still only 2...
Jump to postSo real talk— is this bird gonna fly again?
Jump to posthttps://www.instagram.com/reel/C3kiwrvIS5U/?hl=en I hear several impacts. Maybe a tail strike, the ILS antenna array, and some trees? The buffeting is rhythmic too. I wish the clip were longer to hear if that continued. They are barely climbing. The video ends and it looks like they’re still only 20...
Jump to postThe only thing I can say is how I’m always amazed. I wish I could have flown the AA that AA fans thought AA was, because it never existed. Definitely not by 2013.
Jump to postLooks like it was brake issues https://simpleflying.com/brakes-issue-american-airlines-boeing-737-800-overrun-runway-dallas/ I know acceleration or rather deceleration isn't that intuitive but perhaps instrumentation should monitor this and mandate given runway length as well, taking off And going ...
Jump to postSo, as suspected by some, the bolts were not installed when the door panel blew out?
Jump to postDocLightning wrote:challeygat300 wrote:The very very likely scenario is that SLC was the closest suitable option.
OK, but LAX was closer.
Amazed that he was able to get the aircraft back onto the runway after skidding off.
Jump to postMIflyer12 wrote:DL isn't asking anyone to drive from SLC to SFO. So much drama.