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by rotating14
Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Air delays 787 deliveries
Replies: 58
Views: 19339

Re: Hawaiian Air delays 787 deliveries

First frame out of the Charleston factory. Fuselage not painted yet. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evr7sdCXIAUZx64?format=jpg&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evr7sdCXIAUZx64?format=jpg&name=large That looks really nice. But not being delivered until September 2022 seems like any awfull...

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by rotating14
Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest employee dances, listens to music on headphones while de-icing.
Replies: 19
Views: 6773

Re: Southwest employee dances, listens to music on headphones while de-icing.

Southwest employee dances, listens to music on headphones while de-icing. Is this allowed, or am I just an old ramp worker back when distractions/music headphones weren't permitted? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-dance-southwest-airline-plane-milwaukee-20191122-j2ae7oluancw7nojm7exotm...

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by rotating14
Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Wants to be NMA Launch Customer
Replies: 212
Views: 39280

Re: Delta Wants to be NMA Launch Customer

https://www.aerotime.aero/aerotime.team ... g-customer

“We'll see where that goes,” said Bastian. “We are in discussions at a very preliminary phase with Boeing on it, and we'll find out. Hopefully they'll decide to go”.


More fat to chew on.
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https://www.aerotime.aero/aerotime.team ... g-customer

“We'll see where that goes,” said Bastian. “We are in discussions at a very preliminary phase with Boeing on it, and we'll find out. Hopefully they'll decide to go”.


More fat to chew on.

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by rotating14
Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Could Add 500 Aircraft to it's Fleet
Replies: 115
Views: 24380

Re: Southwest Could Add 500 Aircraft to it's Fleet

I'm interested in knowing more about how they're going to make intra state flying work.

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by rotating14
Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next customers for the 748F
Replies: 25
Views: 6590

Re: Next customers for the 748F

Does anyone know why FedEx won't operate 747's? Most other large cargo operators seem to find value in them. Ask yourself 'what can the 748F with 4 engines do that the 777F with 2 engines can't do'? The answer is Oversized cargo and a bit more payload (83,100 lbs). FX also likely sees a benefit of ...

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by rotating14
Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways commits to ordering 18 777-9 plus an additional 24 options
Replies: 254
Views: 53236

Re: Bloomberg: British Airways to pick 777X

This is quite the endorsement for the 777x. If Boeing can secure QF and Vietnam Airlines, it'll be a much needed shot in the arm for the program.

For every 777x ordered and delivered, it definitely dampens the prospects of Airbus introducing a new widebody aircraft similar in size and spec.

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by rotating14
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Wants to be NMA Launch Customer
Replies: 212
Views: 39280

Re: Delta Wants to be NMA Launch Customer

Years ago when DL did a RFP for their WB needs, they considered the 777x a paper airplane and they weren't interested in paper airplanes. Okay. This NMA doesn't even have a designated model number nor is it launched but the same DL is suddenly trying to be the launch customer of a plane that does no...

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by rotating14
Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First B777-9X of LH in PAE now
Replies: 95
Views: 24597

Re: First B777-9X of LH in PAE now

juliuswong wrote:
speedbird52 wrote:
Something about the 777-9 looks so much more graceful than the -300 and -200 series. I can't put my finger on what it is.

I think the curved winglet made it looks "fierce and dominating"



It's not a winglet. It's a folding wingtip. What you see is it in the raised position.

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by rotating14
Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Lineup Circa 2025 - Where do they go Next
Replies: 46
Views: 9614

Re: Boeing Lineup Circa 2025 - Where do they go Next

Maybe I'm the only one with this idea but why couldn't Boeing manufacture a CFRP fuselage for the 777x? I'm thinking it could borrow a few techniques and technologies from the 787 and apply them to the 777x. A 777-9 or - 10 with the same wings but a CFRP Fuselage would be interesting. I don't see to...

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by rotating14
Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 freighter?
Replies: 22
Views: 4139

Re: A380 freighter?

The aviation geek in me coming out - I know the 748F is a good fit for UPS but it does make me wonder if FedEx would ever order a handful for niche routes that could justify it. :scratchchin: I know, I know, the 777F is the go to bird for them, but it still makes me wonder. Besides the ability to l...

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by rotating14
Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 freighter?
Replies: 22
Views: 4139

Re: A380 freighter?

Whenever Emirates returns their A380s they would make great raw material for some P2F. Three decks for packages. Must be perfect for Amazon and the like. Cargo airlines make money when the planes are flying, not parked. Sure, it could provide a lot of lift but how long will it take to get it unload...

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by rotating14
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Etihad restructures aircraft orders
Replies: 83
Views: 15390

Re: Etihad restructures aircraft orders

From a commercial point of view, this has been an excellent week for Airbus. Shareholder value has increased around 6 % which is a lot. Where is the upside?? They basically had 81 orders cancelled and with the EK announcement, their still in the negative by 11. Doesn't matter. It's airbus, so, it's...

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by rotating14
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A330/A350 confirmed, Boeing 787 for 777-9 still possible
Replies: 879
Views: 150445

Re: Emirates considering order changes - Airbus A380 for A350, Boeing 787 for 777-9

I'm quite surprised that the 339 was included in the order and can only imagine that near-term capacity needs in the absence of either planned A380 deliveries or available A350 slots drove it. From the way it reads, the A350 half is for the A380 that won't be delivered and the A339 NEO is basically...

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by rotating14
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Etihad restructures aircraft orders
Replies: 83
Views: 15390

Re: Etihad restructures aircraft orders

From a commercial point of view, this has been an excellent week for Airbus. Shareholder value has increased around 6 % which is a lot. Where is the upside?? They basically had 81 orders cancelled and with the EK announcement, their still in the negative by 11. From a commercial point of view, you ...

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by rotating14
Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: Etihad restructures aircraft orders
Replies: 83
Views: 15390

Re: Etihad restructures aircraft orders

It's looking like they are trying to get out of their A359 order completely. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/etihad-discussing-cancellation-of-42-a350s-455759/ This has not been a good week for Airbus lol From a commercial point of view, this has been an excellent week for Airbus. Shareh...

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by rotating14
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: West Jet MAX 7 order in doubt
Replies: 35
Views: 7078

West Jet MAX 7 order in doubt

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... inks-fleet
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The Canadian carrier is weighing its options for the MAX 10 and the MAX 8. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... inks-fleet

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by rotating14
Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: U.S. Politicians propose Green-New-Deal. Air Travel to Become Unnecessary
Replies: 352
Views: 21956

Re: U.S. Politicians propose Green-New-Deal. Air Travel to Become Unnecessary

Lol, "expanding high speed rail" You need to have high speed rail in order to expand your high speed rail systems. This is NEVER going to happen. China has 500 times the amount of track that the US has. Guess what? They still need aircraft to fly within the Chinese mainland. The technology...

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by rotating14
Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Airbus considering A330NEO Regional
Replies: 97
Views: 18851

Bloomberg: Airbus considering A330NEO Regional

It appears that Airbus is trying to splash cold water on the proposed 797 by Boeing. Airbus is proposing a regional version of the A330NEO. I was under the impression that Airbus said that the A321neo was the MOM plane and that they were was no need to do anything regarding the 797. Times have chang...

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by rotating14
Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Singapore Airlines takes delivery of first A350-900ULR from Airbus
Replies: 133
Views: 32452

Re: Singapore Airlines takes delivery of first A350-900ULR from Airbus

Is this a thread on lavatories and bladder control??

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by rotating14
Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3491
Views: 469217

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Mark my words, AS will be all over this aircraft. AS never had 757s, 767s in that category. 739/A321 is the largest they got so far. https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/974/41623395212_fd59245249_b.jpg If the 797 would cover the market between the 787-8 and the largest of all narrow body aircraft, why wo...

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by rotating14
Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas saying it is almost ready to select Project Sunrise aircraft
Replies: 1494
Views: 306501

Re: Airbus and Boeing meet Qantas Project Sunrise challenge, RFP to be completed by end of 2019

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2 ... ming-video

Seems like Airbus and Boeing have brought forth aircraft to meets the needs of QF.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2 ... ming-video

Seems like Airbus and Boeing have brought forth aircraft to meets the needs of QF.

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by rotating14
Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737 ramp up slowing unfinished frames piling up.
Replies: 2
Views: 1364

Re: 737 ramp up slowing unfinished frames piling up.

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Continue the discussion here

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by rotating14
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus offers longer range A35K for QR
Replies: 137
Views: 29593

Airbus offers longer range A35K for QR

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/farnborough-airbus-proposes-longer-range-a350-1000-450406/ To better complete with the 77W, Airbus has developed a better version of the A35K. Will it work? We'll see. Al Baker says Airbus has disclosed plans to Qatar Airways for a further weight increase, ...

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by rotating14
Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:02 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 25 Years from Today: What will Airlines Look Like?
Replies: 20
Views: 2828

Re: 25 Years from Today: What will Airlines Look Like?

25 years older than before.

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by rotating14
Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AX : A330 NEO order not firmed.Opening for 787?!?
Replies: 1
Views: 1204

AX : A330 NEO order not firmed.Opening for 787?!?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbus-airasia/airbus-fails-to-break-deadlock-on-airasia-a330neo-jet-order-sources-idUSKBN1JV2VQ?il=0 Mr Fernandes went to Airbus this week for assurances on the aircraft he has order, specifically the A330 NEO. But the head of Air Asia left without firming the dea...

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by rotating14
Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QR to dump entire A330F fleet, favors 777F
Replies: 53
Views: 14241

QR to dump entire A330F fleet, favors 777F

https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/reports/qatar-airways-to-dispose-of-a330f-fleet-intensifies-price-competition-418691 This move is unsurprising since they've been buying more 777Fs as of late and are the largest 777F operator second to FX. Qatar Airways’ chief officer cargo Guillaume Halleux g...

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by rotating14
Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:20 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Iran seeks to sue Boeing.
Replies: 109
Views: 9578

Iran seeks to sue Boeing.

After the Trump administration cancelled the nuclear pact, Boeing followed suit since the export licenses would be terminated as well. Iran however thinks otherwise. https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/67951-iran-to-sue-boeing-for-cancellation-as-eu-grovels-for-airbus According to Press TV, Iran...

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by rotating14
Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TK mulls ULH aircraft order
Replies: 26
Views: 5933

Re: TK mulls ULH aircraft order

The TK chairman stressed that TK wants to increase its current frequencies so I'd imagine that more flights to Oceania and the continent of Australia make the most sense. Maybe even the west coast of the US.

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by rotating14
Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TK mulls ULH aircraft order
Replies: 26
Views: 5933

TK mulls ULH aircraft order

https://www.thenational.ae/business/aviation/turkish-airlines-in-talks-with-boeing-on-777x-jet-order-for-ultra-long-haul-plans-1.738846 TK is in the process of studying data from the 777x and other ultra long haul aircraft for a potential order. While the TK executive is not a quoted specifying the ...

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by rotating14
Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JAL plans high-density Dreamliners for new long-haul LCC
Replies: 50
Views: 2406

JAL, Boeing discuss ways to expand 2020 LCC launch

JAL is in active discussions with Boeing on how to supply the carrier with more widebody aircraft for it's LLC launch in 2020 with 2 787-8s. Airline director Masaru Onishi told Bloomberg on the sidelines of the IATA AGM in Sydney this week that the talks focus on the possibility of converting some o...

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by rotating14
Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 605
Views: 169563

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Can we please keep this thread for Airbus and Boeing order announcements and not about discussion of what _____ might order because they have a large ______ fleet?

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by rotating14
Thu May 31, 2018 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing machinists succeed in union vote
Replies: 3
Views: 1239

Boeing machinists succeed in union vote

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -labor-win


Organized labor scores as Boeing machinists voted to form a union.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -labor-win


Organized labor scores as Boeing machinists voted to form a union.

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by rotating14
Wed May 30, 2018 3:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls-Royce: More 787 groundings imminent.
Replies: 66
Views: 18631

Rolls-Royce: More 787 groundings imminent.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rolls-says


Looks like a bad situation is going to get worse.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rolls-says


Looks like a bad situation is going to get worse.

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by rotating14
Tue May 29, 2018 4:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Shies Away From 78J/77X For Time Being
Replies: 61
Views: 12014

Re: AA Shies Away From 78J/77X For Time Being

I'd be more positive about the 787-10 than the 779; the 787-10 looks like being an ideal t/a aircraft and could replace the A333s and 772s on many routes. Correct. Buying a new aircraft that can seat 400 plus passengers makes zero sense when their largest aircraft only seats 310 and paint on the 77...

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by rotating14
Tue May 22, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision
Replies: 347
Views: 60292

Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

You aussies mostly live on the wrong side of the island. :shhh: Anyway a big dedicated hub on the NorthWest would put Europe under 8000NM. Enabling most WB's to by pass hot & sandy places. http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=PHe-SYD,+PHE-MEL,+PHE-LHR,+PHE-MAD,+PHE-FRA,+PHE-BNE,+PHE-PER,+++PHE-HKG,+PHE-A...

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by rotating14
Fri May 18, 2018 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways close to wrapping up MAX aircraft order
Replies: 3
Views: 1121

Jet Airways close to wrapping up MAX aircraft order

With over 150 MAX aircraft on order, Jet Airways is close signing up more. This follows its recent announcement of flights to Manchester. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-18/india-s-jet-airways-planning-follow-on-deal-for-boeing-737-max India’s biggest full-service airline is in talks...

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by rotating14
Thu May 17, 2018 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing and Airbus jockey for 400 unit order
Replies: 1
Views: 743

Boeing and Airbus jockey for 400 unit order

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dubai-aerospace-orders-airbus-boeing/exclusive-dubai-aerospace-in-talks-to-place-huge-order-for-400-jets-idUSKCN1II1K3 Dubai aerospace is in talks with Boeing and Airbus over ordering NB aircraft. Dubai Aerospace Enterprise, one of the world's largest aircraft less...

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by rotating14
Sun May 06, 2018 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.
Replies: 164
Views: 41475

Re: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.

Emirates and Etihad ordered the 777X together to maximize their bargaining power with Boeing as a launch customer. So while I could certainly see them deferring their initial deliveries, if they cancel outright they may lose that pricing should they come back later and re-order. I expect the 787 or...

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by rotating14
Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian divesting itself of up to 140 aircraft
Replies: 17
Views: 8328

Norwegian divesting itself of up to 140 aircraft

DY has decided to divest itself of up 140 aircraft, as the article indicates. CEO Bjorn Kjos did not elaborate on which deliveries would be affected but it is recalled that Norwegian has already switched six B787-9s on order from Boeing (BOE, Chicago O'Hare) out to BOC Aviation. In addition, five A3...

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by rotating14
Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing weighs using Dreamlifters to increase 767 output.
Replies: 61
Views: 15062

Boeing weighs using Dreamlifters to increase 767 output.

The Dreamlifters that shuttle 787 sections are being proposed to move 767 sections from Spirits Wichita Kansas facility to Everett. Boeing seems really bullish on future prospects for the 767. Amazon is rumored to be ordering between 80 and 100 frames. https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2018/0...

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by rotating14
Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran - Boeing deal
Replies: 188
Views: 26279

Re: Iran - Boeing deal

The Boeing deal is basically dead. The OEM has found new homes for those aircraft initially destined for Iran. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-results-777/boeing-defers-iran-deliveries-eases-output-concerns-idUSKBN1HW2A3 The head of the U.S. planemaker also signaled on Wednesday that Boein...

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by rotating14
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DY shifts 6 787-9s to lessor
Replies: 8
Views: 3727

DY shifts 6 787-9s to lessor

BOC Aviation of Singapore has accepted a transfer of 6 787-9s from Norwegian Air Shuttle, decreasing its order to 13 from 19. https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2018/04/18/norwegian-air-boeing-787-orders-boc-aviation.html Shifting the order to BOC but retaining the option to lease or buy the j...

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by rotating14
Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Airlines eyes other aircraft for its next RFP
Replies: 128
Views: 16927

Spirit Airlines eyes other aircraft for its next RFP

NK is eyeing a Boeing model, among others from different OEM's, for its next RFP. If I were to guess, I'd say they're keen on the Boeing 797. https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2018/04/11/spirit-airlines-boeing-airbus-aircraft-orders.html "We are undergoing a process now to look for a new...

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by rotating14
Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 605
Views: 169563

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 18797.html

NH orders 2 777F to bolster its fleet of freighter aircraft.
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https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 18797.html

NH orders 2 777F to bolster its fleet of freighter aircraft.

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by rotating14
Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa needs more bigger planes?
Replies: 42
Views: 9926

Re: Lufthansa needs more bigger planes?

RamblinMan wrote:
Well with the EK deal the A380 line will be open for another decade, plenty of time for LH to order more of them.



They cancelled a portion of their initial order of A380s and you think they'll order more within the next decade because EK is keeping the lime open?? Can you elaborate more on this?

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by rotating14
Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 605
Views: 169563

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-0 ... 053597.htm
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Boeing sells 5 MAX aircraft to Ukraine airline SkyUp. 2 MAX 8 and 3 MAX 10.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-0 ... 053597.htm

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by rotating14
Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018
Replies: 309
Views: 93512

Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-publishes-plan-for-non-normal-777x-wing-tip-446789/ Interesting article on the folding wingtips. With the first such mechanism scheduled to enter service on the 777X family in two years, Boeing set a goal to design a folding device so elegant and rel...

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by rotating14
Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific Airways loss doubles on intense competition
Replies: 76
Views: 14426

Re: Cathay Pacific Airways loss doubles on intense competition

Ironic to see top carriers like CX and SQ suffer. No it isn't. Not in the least. This is what everyone who took a rational view of the evolution of the air transport market EXPECTED. And why we so often mocked the people who are blindsided by the (ridiculous) notion that perceptions of "servic...

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by rotating14
Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airlines to purchase up to 40 787-9 aircraft
Replies: 159
Views: 28892

Re: Turkish Airlines to purchase up to 40 787-9 aircraft

Turkish Airlines has struck deals covering orders for 25 Airbus A350-900s and another 25 Boeing 787-9s https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/turkish-commits-to-60-widebodies-after-inking-a350-a-446654/ Incorrect. TK will firm 25 A350-900 aircraft with 5 options and 25 787-9 aircraft with 5 opt...

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