Re: Do VerticalScope(Torstar) really care about Airliner.net

As I understand it, even though VerticalScope is the owner, they are primarily involved in the financial and technical (IT) sectors of the site, while things like moderation and forum policy are handled by Paul and his team of moderators/other staff. These two parties are both independent of each ot...

Re: Global Airlines buys an A380 from Doric for UK - US service

How did I know this was going to be yet another “operated by some relatively obscure airline” startup?

Oh, right, they don’t have the resources to get their own AOC….

Re: New Members Posting For First Time

I want to point out that even when the site was paid membership only — $25 for posting, I think? Well anyway, the problem still existed even under paid membership, it just was much less severe. From my distant memory, I know of at least one case where a member, who I have to assume had a lot of disp...

Re: Global Airlines buys an A380 from Doric for UK - US service

Given my past post on this thread, I just realized that while there is much ado about this “airline” acquiring an A380, really, purchasing a fleet of aircraft is hardly the most pressing or costly issue, because keeping an aircraft airworthy for the long haul (no pun intended) is 1,000x more costly....

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

What I didn’t realize is that, from their investment document in the OP, they list an office suite in Delray Beach, Florida. That is just north of my house…

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

Will Family Airlines/Avatar Airlines/whatever die when Barry Michaels does, or does he have someone crazy enough to carry on this idea after he passes? Nah, Avatar is hardly the first on this account. The vast majority of startup airlines in this country, in my recent memory, have some element of c...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

One more thing… One (of many) of my biggest problems is that I initially typically forget things, then a sudden burst of clarity strikes me, with a topic that I have not added to this thread, that is, for myself, while trying to stay mostly within the rules of not hijacking threads, discussing only ...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

In my arbitrary opinion of what a startup legacy airline must contain, it should include most, or all, of, the following qualities, only in regards to United States based airlines: 1. A meaningful codeshare system that extends beyond Canada, The Bahamas, The Caribbean, Central America, and South Am...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

To clarify the first sentence of my previous post, I am aware that Avatar's intent, whether or not it actually occurs, is to be a low cost carrier (intially, at least), and not what I term a "Legacy Startup Airline" as used in my prior post. When speaking of all airline startups, as oppose...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

Really, in regards to Avatar/LAXIntl’s OP, to any startup that intended to compete with the legacies on a global level, and amounted to anything noteworthy, (the distinction I’m trying to draw here is to say, a “startup legacy airline”, which I will use further in this post, as opposed to most start...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

So long as an airline is compliant with all FAA (or relevant authority) procedures, or a car passes it’s annual inspections and is road worthy, I don’t have any particular objection to a business model based on older machines. I would stick to Enterprise or Avis, but I’m not going to call for anoth...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

I forgot to mention that AirTran, in its formative years, also flew the B737 classic series B732 and the Douglas DC-9 series. These airplanes were replaced by the more modern 73G for the 732, and the B712 for the DC-9. AirTran’s fleet was also augmented for a brief period by the now-defunct (RIP) Ry...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

He is going to buy those planes cheap because no one else wants them. Sounds like a great idea. Well, it was the initial starting model of ValuJet and at least one successor, Allegiant . For a while, it seemed to be working when they were all MD but for the MX issues — which to me, would kind of of...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

I give the Boom supersonic plane more chance of entering commercial service than this airline ever starting ops :lol: I agree! I heard PeoplExpress is paying Vision to acquire 748s brand new (despite production ending) for their Newport News Superhub though, so Avatar may have to look elsewhere tha...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

Hey since B6 was jilted by the DOJ, this could be perfect. There is no way the DOJ would stop a Avatar/B6 partnership. :duck: Three way merger with Baltia Airlines while we're at it, the flagship route of NY to St Petersburg will finally become reality and a bonus source of income for B6 and Avatar...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

FlyingSicilian wrote:

If you want to go non sequitur would a unionised Avatar be better for you?

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

There is no such thing as 'barely legal'. Something is legal or illegal with regard to the laws and regulations. That’s the only thing I got wrong in the tomes of text that I have written on this thread? I am doing pretty well on my ratio then. I am glad to have been informed though that the Justic...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

Ultimately, whether an op is barely legal, fully legal, halfway legal, or one fourth legal is meaningless to me because it’s more of an “icing on the cake” detail instead of one that is in the batter making up the majority of the pastry. Just because an operation is legal does not imply that unscrup...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

You beat me to it. Although I don't think they are still around, at least not in my area. Used them once in the '90s when my vehicle was down for a few days. They had a franchise an easy walk from where I then lived. Rented a five-year-old or so Plymouth Reliant station wagon. It ran fine, and was ...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

Ever heard of Rent-a-Wreck? You are basically describing their business model, and seem relatively successful in their niche. You beat me to it. Although I don't think they are still around, at least not in my area. Used them once in the '90s when my vehicle was down for a few days. They had a fran...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

It simply not true to say it’s “not true” in all situations. Old, depreciated aircraft make perfect sense in low utilisation operations. Not doing much flying means your won’t recoup the capital costs of a new aircraft, and the aircraft are not pushed too hard for things to break while also allowin...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

Absolute scam of an airline, I remember people sending money to the first Family Airlines and being robbed. A lot of these startup airlines in the US are unfortunately scams, fronts for other crimes, or otherwise illegal. From the top of my head on more recent ones from around the year 2000-forward...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

Well, it was the initial starting model of ValuJet and at least one successor, Allegiant. For a while, it seemed to be working when they were all MD but for the MX issues — which to me, would kind of offset any savings they may have had, without myself making any statement on the allegations that G...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

The system locked me out from editing my previous post. Also, I know the common response to what I said about finances and cutting corners above is something to the effect of “The reason they attempt to cut corners is because of a shortage of money.” To me, regulators of transportation should instan...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

He is going to buy those planes cheap because no one else wants them. Sounds like a great idea. Well, it was the initial starting model of ValuJet and at least one successor, Allegiant. For a while, it seemed to be working when they were all MD but for the MX issues — which to me, would kind of off...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

Some notes about this 1. Barry Michaels, the CEO, has a criminal record at both the state, and federal levels, as a well as a number of civil judgements against him by defrauded investors. I am not an attorney, and have no legal training; but my general recollection of similar precedent of the FAA ...

Re: Avatar Airlines is back seeking investors

Some notes about this 1. Barry Michaels, the CEO, has a criminal record at both the state, and federal levels, as a well as a number of civil judgements against him by defrauded investors. I am not an attorney, and have no legal training; but my general recollection of similar precedent of the FAA i...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

I can’t edit my previous reply now, so sorry for the double post, but (and this is relevant to Silver as well, see below) the reason that the Piper P31 service from PBI-MIA-PBI was not successful was that, unless the traveler is/was connecting to an airline with a focus city (B6 and WN at FLL, etc.)...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

MQ tried SRQ-MIA and RSW-MIA in the past few years with a mix of 145/175 aircraft, both were axed a few months after starting. For 3M, as Gulfstream/COX they did do APF-MIA/FLL and the same from SRQ, but neither lasted very long. Cape Air (9K) operated a network from APF for some time as well. As fo...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

A ton of intrastate service, really ? All the current commercial airports in FLA with service today and their intrastate service DAB - NONE MLB - NONE RSW - MCO SRQ - NONE JAX - FLL, MIA GNV - FLL, MIA MCO - FLL, MIA, RSW, EYW, PNS TLH - FLL, MIA. TPA EYW - FLL, MIA, MCO, SFB - twice a week, TPA EC...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

Not that much intrastate service? There’s tons of intrastate flights within the state. There’s a ton of intrastate service in Florida given the size of the state. 3M and AA/MQ are the largest of operators in that regard, but there’s also a smattering of seasonal routes and P2P as well. A ton of int...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

Is bus available ... have not flown through MIA in years ? The hardstand arrangement at MIA (plus the fact that other than Concourse D, there are no marked roads on the ramp, other than passing by and through the individual concourses’ perimeters/bagrooms on either side) doesn’t make sense for bus ...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

Yes but this isn’t road-trip.net it’s airliners.net. The comparison would be how does Brightline impact Silver’s (and other airline’s) intra-Florida flying where passengers will also be without a car on both ends. I get that, but part of the reason why there's so little intrastate air service in Fl...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

Silver should pull up stakes in FLL, move to MIA, feed AA flights ... add SRQ to MIA, do MIA - MLB - DAB - TLH ,,, then draw a ring around TPA ... anything within 350 nautical miles ... all options should be looked at with a microscope with viability of being profitable operations Silver, and the d...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

Silver should pull up stakes in FLL, move to MIA, feed AA flights ... add SRQ to MIA, do MIA - MLB - DAB - TLH ,,, then draw a ring around TPA ... anything within 350 nautical miles ... all options should be looked at with a microscope with viability of being profitable operations Silver, and the d...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

One interesting tidbit about Silver is that 12 years after they began efforts to become an independent airline (as opposed to solely UAX and before that, COX) is that they are still confused with United mainline, at least here in FLL, the main factor in that confusion being that I get the sense from...

Re: Avelo to Lakeland florida

LAL should take note of other Florida airports that have struggled to maintain any airline service at all, like APF (Naples).

Re: AV Cuts LAX-BOG

Part of the problem with these “flag carriers” is that, despite the heavy consolidation in the global airline industry, and as much as the enthusiast in me is pained by saying it, there are still too many airlines, because almost every country believes it must have a national airline, regardless of ...

Re: AV Cuts LAX-BOG

Haven’t kept up….Is the AV of today a legacy, LCC, ULCC, or?

Re: Global Airlines buys an A380 from Doric for UK - US service

More like Virgin Atlantic with a clapped out 741. Hope they have a good marketing team. How did VS fare long term with those clapped out 741s? Global won't have any trouble at all filling an A380 to Orlando. None. I predict success. Filling an airplane is very easy, lasting long term as a profitabl...

Re: F9 CEO Issues Financial Warning - Only US ULCCs Currently Affected

The ULCCs don’t treat their employees very well, my fiancé was a flight attendant for one (thankfully she’s moved on to other employment). That’s another issue. From a pilot perspective: F9 actually has some very unique & advantageous work rules that actually allow for some pretty sweet schedul...

Re: F9 CEO Issues Financial Warning - Only US ULCCs Currently Affected

The ULCCs don’t treat their employees very well, my fiancé was a flight attendant for one (thankfully she’s moved on to other employment).

That’s another issue.

Re: Why wouldn't everyone want to fly Southwest?

Good luck flying WN to LHR or NRT.

Re: Updated: United ends JFK service October 2022

They’ve had so many comebacks at JFK that nobody can keep up.

They’ll be back.

Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2022

The Red Air MD has been relocated successfully and now repairs to MIA airport infrastructure begin.

Also I found an Antonov AN12 on the cargo ramp while doing a work run, pictures here soon.

Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2022

Echo 11 is nearing completion at MIA

Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2022

Echo 11 at MIA has been removed, and the new jetbridge is being installed. E11 was the last stationary (IE-non wheeled, non-moving) jetway at MIA.

Re: South Florida Aviation Thread - 2022

MAH4546 wrote:

American is finally launching non-stops from Miami to Asheville. Saturday service begins June 4th for the summer months

Re: Disgusting Fox News ads

As others have said the ads you see are “targeted advertising” that are displayed to you based on your search history and overall internet activity. To clear these you’ll need to delete your cookies and clear your browser cache. A great, free program to do this is CCleaner.

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2022

MIA regional is all E175 now. All 145s have been moved elsewhere or retired.