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by Stitch
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 Scrapping
Replies: 18
Views: 3346

Re: 787 Scrapping

noviorbis77 wrote:
Is there any reason why the shell could not be used as an artificial reef as some (retired) aircraft have been?


Probably not, as there was a patent in 1980 to make artificial reefs for fish farming out of fiberglass or CFRP. So in the future one might see a CFRP airframe used in this way.

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by Stitch
Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 Scrapping
Replies: 18
Views: 3346

Re: 787 Scrapping

I noticed that that the fifth 787, N787FT is now being scrapped. What is going to happen to the plane once it is scrapped? Will it go to the garbage dump or become something else. The materials recovered will at least in part be used on other 787s. Boeing turned 787 manufacturing scrap into usable ...

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by Stitch
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2170
Views: 272696

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

If the 767 operations of the last 30 years mean anything, an average 2 hours is about right. And that includes the ER versions that can do 6000NM. Considering how many 767s did TATL and Mainland-Hawaii services in their career, I doubt "two hours" was the average stage length of an averag...

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by Stitch
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 95
Views: 21336

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

stylo777 wrote:
how many 77W's are still due for delivery?


There are 61 unfilled orders as of the end of March.


B764er wrote:
How many 77w's is UA supposed to receive?


Two as of the end of March, including the one above.

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by Stitch
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2170
Views: 272696

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

I see a strong drive towards a range of 5000NM or even more for NMA. IMO that risks building an aircraft that is way to heavy to be competitive on the bulk of flights. I think it should be optimized, or at least be very efficient for flights of around 2hrs / 1000NM. If that is where the product is ...

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by Stitch
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 95
Views: 21336

Re: Boeing 777 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Well the 777-300ER is a "gas guzzling hog" compared to more modern airliner families (the delta is around 20% to the A350-1000, which is about twice what the delta between the A340-600 and 777-300ER was) so as the A350-1000 and 777-9 enter serial production we should start seeing significa...

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by Stitch
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 82
Views: 15138

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

LY777 wrote:
Are newly delivered RR-powered 787s also affected?


If they have Trent-TENs they might not be as the issue looks to be only with Package C engines per the AD.

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by Stitch
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 82
Views: 15138

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

The sulfidation issue only appeared years into regular service, as well.

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737-800 BCF Conversion/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 17
Views: 2219

Re: Boeing 737-800 BCF Conversion/Delivery Thread 2018

Neither the 737-800BCF nor the A321-200P2F are really "great" options. The A321 will offer about 87% of the volume and 69% of the payload weight, whereas the 738 is at 77% and 62%, respectively.

As such, the best replacement for a 757P2F is, frankly, another 757P2F.

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2170
Views: 272696

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

keesje wrote:
The A380 also flew after 5 yrs & entered service after 7.


As did the 787.

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 82
Views: 15138

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

So were the restrictions dropped as safety is not compromised or because airlines said it would cost them more financially? A fine line exist between the two extremes. As noted, the use of the word "dropped" refers to having been published, not that any previously present operating restri...

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2170
Views: 272696

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

So why is it that Boeing just doesn't revive the 787-3? It was supposed to be a replacement for 767 and 757. It had the range for US to Europe and good for domestic US use. Because the 787-8 is as good or better beyond 250nm. Boeing would need to invest significantly into weight reduction and optim...

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by Stitch
Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 82
Views: 15138

Re: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems

Well we knew it was not fake news since EASA supposedly filed a similar AD on Friday (though I cannot find reports of it other than in the ones referencing the FAA intending to follow them).

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by Stitch
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

JayinKitsap wrote:
A quick thought, both AA and HA have selected GE engines, are the problems facing RR for reliability enough to flip the selection to the 787 as the 330 and 350 both are RR only.


Or perhaps GE has more aggressive on engine deals to encourage customers to the 787 from the A330/A350.

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by Stitch
Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:34 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Cargo capabilities determining pax a/c selection
Replies: 4
Views: 631

Re: Cargo capabilities determining pax a/c selection

Is the A332 vs. B764 competition the only (major) instance of better belly cargo capacity being the primary determinant (for at least one operator) in selecting one airframe over the other? IIRC, several operators with existing B763 fleets chose the A332, rather than the B764, for the A332's belly ...

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by Stitch
Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rolls Royce having more 787 problems
Replies: 82
Views: 15138

Re: B787 RR Engine AD-ETOPS Restriction, is there a chance that airlines will swap out the RR engines for GE?

I'm not convinced that these restrictions will have as much of an impact as many people seem to think. There can't be that many routes that the affected aircraft are currently being used on that will be impossible to operate with ETOPS140... ETOPS-140 could have an impact on some TPAC operations. A...

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by Stitch
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russia considering cutting supply of Titanium to Boeing
Replies: 24
Views: 5679

Re: Russia considering cutting supply of Titanium to Boeing

The article states that Boeing (and Airbus) are not (just) buying raw titanium ingots from Russia, but (also) machined aerospace parts made from titanium. So beyond just the material, Boeing would need to source the machined part, as well. So that could complicate matters in terms of "easy"...

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by Stitch
Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

I always understood that when an airline orders an aircraft, it pays a deposit to the aircraft manufacturer at that time. If the airline subsequently cancels their order, they loose that deposit. The sales contract between the OEM and the Airline will spell out what the conditions of a breach of sa...

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by Stitch
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

The original MoU placed in 2011 was for 42 787-9s with 58 options, contingent on AA and ALPA coming to an agreement on adding the 787 to their existing labor contract. As part of that MoU, AA had a "strike date" for each of the frames that they were required to confirm 18 months prior to a...

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by Stitch
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2170
Views: 272696

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Theoretically if you made the base of an an LD3-45 wider - from 62" to 98", and assume the internal depth is about 56" (outside depth 60" or about two rows), and with about 41" internal height - you pick up 82,656 Cu In of Volume. A standard Airline bag has max linear dimen...

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by Stitch
Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

To me it sounds like AA exercised their purchase rights based on 2013 order. Many people here claim that AA didn't used their options and I disagree that. The use of the word "amended" implies that this is based on the original 2011 purchase agreement. So it could just be a case of Corpor...

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by Stitch
Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 330
Views: 74877

Re: Boeing 737MAX Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Does anyone think at one point Max deliveries exceed Neo deliveries ? I'm going to hazard a guess that will be a "no" considering the A320neo started deliveries in 2016 compared to 2017 for the MAX, delivered over 3 times as many frames last year (as the neo had a full year of deliveries)...

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by Stitch
Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 192
Views: 43794

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

If we wish to discuss backlogs "at risk" from ASC 606 / IFRS 15, we should probably open a new thread rather than hash it out in this one.

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by Stitch
Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace 21 oldest 767-300s ?
Replies: 85
Views: 11280

Re: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace oldest 767-300s ?

Some 767s in the 900s have been going to freighter conversion. UA brought 3 767s from HA; I am surprised that they didn't try harder for the 767s that ANA, JAL, and LATAM are letting go. Having retired from United recently I can tell you this. Their fleet acquisition people and engineering people a...

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by Stitch
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:54 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery
Replies: 1506
Views: 100972

Re: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery

http://www.defence.gov.au/Publications/ ... 000771.pdf

A UAE A330MRTT also shed it's boom over Spain during testing.
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mjoelnir wrote:
Anyway, what serious test incident happened in Australia with the boom?


A KC-30A shed it's boom during a refueling operation with a Portuguese F-16.
http://www.defence.gov.au/Publications/ ... 000771.pdf

A UAE A330MRTT also shed it's boom over Spain during testing.

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by Stitch
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MH to place order for 25 widebodies by end of 2017
Replies: 267
Views: 59355

Re: MH to place order for 25 widebodies by end of 2017

So are there actual delivery slots in place for the MH 789s? The MoU likely includes production slots, though they would be based on a production quarter and not a specific slot (so "first quarter 2020"). There would also probably be a "use it or lose it" clause where MH would n...

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Double stretches of an aircraft, why don’t they work?
Replies: 24
Views: 2420

Re: Double stretches of an aircraft, why don’t they work?

And the MAX-7 is around 2 meters longer than the -300 / -700.

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:25 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery
Replies: 1506
Views: 100972

Re: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery

sovietjet wrote:
Consider this a silly question, but why did they decide to make things overly complicated by removing the boom window and adding a camera?


I'm going to hazard a guess that from technical and structural modification standpoints it is far easier to have a camera back there than a human being.

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

Most 787-9 specific parts are not lighter, they are stronger and heavier. The 787-9 did undergo a significant optimization of the weight of many of it's components which resulted in an overall reduction in the aircraft's empty weight. The 787-8 started incorporating many of those weight-optimized p...

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2018
Replies: 464
Views: 105135

Re: 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2018

ODwyerPW wrote:
I guess leaving them white has gone out of practice.


It is also possible that the company that manufactures the paint can now do colors other than the original white and grey while still keeping the laminar flow intact.

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing more aggressive under new CEO?
Replies: 69
Views: 8671

Re: Boeing more aggressive under new CEO?

More aggressive? Different messages in US news channels: In a trade war, US aviation giant Boeing could be a sitting duck "Unfortunately, Boeing makes an easy target for anyone wishing to retaliate against the new US trade measures," Mr Richard Aboulafia, vice-president of analysis at Tea...

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 192
Views: 43794

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Boeing posted it's monthly update, it's very interesting. Revenue Recognition Accounting Standard ASC 606 Information  During the first quarter of 2018, Boeing adopted a new revenue recognition accounting standard (ASC 606) which, among other things, imposes additional criteria for recognizing cont...

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by Stitch
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

And yet Singapore Airlines and SCOOT can fit 18" seats into their 787s at 3x3x3 despite Boeing's villainy... :scratchchin: Non sequitur. What is the armrest width? What is the aisle width? Something always gives when you travel with Boeing comfort standards. Mind you I never had any problems f...

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by Stitch
Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace 21 oldest 767-300s ?
Replies: 85
Views: 11280

Re: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace oldest 767-300s ?

If structural weight is taken out of the 787-8, that would reduce the zero fuel weight. With no other changes, it would be able to carry more fuel with the same maximum weights as the 787-8. Yes, but you would need to pull upwards of 7,000kg just to match the difference in fuel a 787-9 can load at ...

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by Stitch
Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace 21 oldest 767-300s ?
Replies: 85
Views: 11280

Re: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace oldest 767-300s ?

From what I've read, the 787-8 had excess weight compared to the 787-9. Just substituting lighter weight 787-9 parts on 787-8's should improve the performance of the 787-8 without having to increase the gross weight of the 787-8 to 787-9 weights. While all 787 models have the same available fuel vo...

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by Stitch
Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace 21 oldest 767-300s ?
Replies: 85
Views: 11280

Re: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace oldest 767-300s ?

Another advantage is that the lightenened 787-8 is likely to have even longer maximum range than the 787-9. Only if Boeing raises the operating weights of the 787-8 to match the 787-9. As yet, there seems to be no plan to do this (and I don't think there is a need considering ULH capability does no...

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by Stitch
Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

Is the African market capable of supporting premium heavy configurations? Some of the market is. Nigeria is a major oil producer so I could see AA being able to support a premium-heavy non-stop service between Texas and Nigeria catering to oil company traffic. I am amused by how some people will tr...

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

greenair727 wrote:
47 787's for $12B. So does that mean the average price of one is $255M?


That is list price. I expect AA paid maybe half that.

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

By tail, do you meen up to the first body joint, which includes the simplified tail planes (item #2) and the HSFC system (item #4), or something less? A simpler and lighter cockpit structure (item #7) could also be good. The 787-8 now incorporates the lighter cockpit structure (since around LN130)....

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2170
Views: 272696

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Strato2 wrote:
I think Airbus would be quite happy to find themselves with 40% market share against a clean sheet design.


:shhh: Don't let a certain someone hear that. :rotfl:

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: AA ORDERS 47 787 FROM BOEING????

Very interesting in American’s big order with Boeing for 47- 788/89s which can fly 242 passengers up to 7,355 nautical miles (13,620 km) in a typical two-class configuration, while 789, a stretch of the 787-8, can fly 290 passengers up to 7,635 nautical miles There was no mention of future plans to...

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2170
Views: 272696

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

I don’t think the 797 would be optimized for 4000nm, but rather it will be capable of 4000nm. "Capable" won't cut it - especially against the A321-200LR, which is "capable" of 4000nm, but not "optimized" for it (due to payload restrictions necessary to tank the volume ...

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace 21 oldest 767-300s ?
Replies: 85
Views: 11280

Re: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace oldest 767-300s ?

Armodeen wrote:
I’m guessing he means in regards to performance rather than seating capacity.


Yes, the 787-8 will carry a similar payload over 1000nm farther than a 767-300ER, but a 777-200ER will carry that payload over 1000nm farther than the 787-8 (so 2000nm farther than the 767).

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace 21 oldest 767-300s ?
Replies: 85
Views: 11280

Re: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace oldest 767-300s ?

Why doesn't Boeing go ahead and put in the optimizations developed for the 787-9 into the 787-8? Boeing has done just that and is now going to use the same aft fuselage (Sections 47/48) on the 787-8 and they do on the 787-9 and 787-10. The 788 doesn't make a hood replacement for the 763, it's close...

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace 21 oldest 767-300s ?
Replies: 85
Views: 11280

Re: Will UA order more 787-8 to replace oldest 767-300s ?

UA has been said to be very interested in NMA / MoM and were also said to have been looking at new-build 767-300ERs as interim lift until NMA was available. So assuming NMA does become a thing in the near future and UA is still interested in it when it does, that could lessen the interest in additio...

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

I can't speak for the RR deal, but I have seen the original contract between US and Airbus for the A350XWB and American cancelled their A350 order far enough in advance that they could do so without incurring any penalties for doing so. I doubt American would have negotiated a new contract that was ...

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

Deferring the MAXs. This tells me that AA is getting nervous about the economy and may be scaling back new narrowbody fleet acquisitions in favor of holding onto what's owned a bit longer. If you are worried about the economy, you don't drop $12 billion (at list) on four dozen new widebody aircraft...

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by Stitch
Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

MoKa777 wrote:
I mean to ask, before the cancellation, was that order initially deferred? If it was deferred at some point before being cancelled today, for when were deliveries tentatively planned?


It was deferred multiple times, the most recent to Q4 2020.

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by Stitch
Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69087

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

I'm more impressed with how this story all broke with the website update, the deletion, then the hurried announcement on a Friday afternoon. I'd love to know the backstory on this one..... It was clear the deal was timed to be announced by both parties after the NASDAQ had closed (which is when the...

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by Stitch
Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gulf Air unveils new livery
Replies: 1
Views: 423

Re: Gulf Air unveils new livery

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1387613 :rotfl:
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N415XJ wrote:
Sorry if this is being discussed somewhere else:


Literally in the thread just below yours: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1387613 :rotfl:

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