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by Stitch
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:51 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Do Boeing hold a grudge against Pratt & Whitney?
Replies: 8
Views: 447

Re: Do Boeing hold a grudge against Pratt & Whitney?

If Boeing had a grudge against Pratt, it would have been in the late 1960s when serious technical issues with the JT9D-3 resulted in a significant slowdown in the early production run of the 747-100. Pratt stuffed the PW 4098 on the 777-300 pretty fierce, but then GE stuffed the GE90-77B on the 777-...

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by Stitch
Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 376
Views: 89948

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Boeing's Vistara press release for example...No further mention of it still being a commitment or that it was previously booked. And now it turns out that it was no firm order in July and that it wasn't already on the books. I think that when the term "confirmation" is used we should be c...

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by Stitch
Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 376
Views: 89948

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

So ANA is about to receive a brand new 737-800, when was this order placed? According to Boeing's O&D page, they have already received all 737NG on order. https://twitter.com/aeroimageschris/status/1027067989613412352?s=21 Planespotters.net says it is a leased frame and last year ANA said they ...

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by Stitch
Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 376
Views: 89948

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

ikolkyo wrote:
So ANA is about to receive a brand new 737-800, when was this order placed?


According to Boeing's O&D page, they have already received all 737NG on order.

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by Stitch
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 1160
Views: 408838

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

pugman211 wrote:
Wonder why the RAT was deployed??


It's part of the standard testing regimen on the first flight of an airframe.

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by Stitch
Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo
Replies: 95
Views: 14959

Re: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo

Show me the point, with numbers, were a A330ceo will not show a higher fuel burn than the A330neo. The block fuel burn on a A330ceo will always be lower, independent of the distance. You are so confident that the A330neo is always more efficient at any stage length (including taxi, I am guessing) I...

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by Stitch
Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo
Replies: 95
Views: 14959

Re: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo

As it is, the fuel burn difference of at least 10%, should more than compensate for perhaps a 4% heavier frame with the same payload on short routes. As Polot noted, a number of the "since then changes" you offered were part of the original A330neo specifications, including the A350-style...

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by Stitch
Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo
Replies: 95
Views: 14959

Re: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo

It is in the same way hearsay when Boeing aficionados declare, that 787 can be produced so cheaply, that Boeing can offer a price equal or below the A330neo. If one counts all reasonable cost for a 787, return on development cost, return of deferred cost, depreciation of tools and production facili...

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by Stitch
Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo
Replies: 95
Views: 14959

Re: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo

Would we even know the contracts"below" cost affect losses/deferred costs till they are delivered? No we would not. And of course, since AA and UA will not take their 787s in bulk in a single quarter nor will they be the only customers taking 787 deliveries in a particular quarter, even i...

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by Stitch
Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo
Replies: 95
Views: 14959

Re: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo

Do you think all these weight variations and MTOW increases were planned, or is it a response to widen the appeal of the aircraft, in the face of poor sales. I believe they were planned and this was to widen the appeal of the aircraft, but they would have been done regardless of how well or poorly ...

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by Stitch
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: A320 MPA as Orion / Atlantic Replacement, France , Germany
Replies: 119
Views: 11213

Re: A320 MPA as Orion / Atlantic Replacement, France , Germany

Or it is just the Indian military tracking true to form and looking to renegotiate a contract to get a better deal - if not for the country, then at least for the procurers.

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by Stitch
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo
Replies: 95
Views: 14959

Re: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo

HOWEVER, that 'just enough' profit may imply a too-low investment return to satisfy Boeing's equity holders; that is the point. If Dreamliners are sold at prices just covering marginal 'cash' production costs (labor + component systems + power/IT + rent) , without ALSO covering the assigned capital...

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by Stitch
Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo
Replies: 95
Views: 14959

Re: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo

A decade ago, it was Airbus who was accused by some of selling frames at or below cost to win marketshare when they were having sales success and now it is Boeing being accused of the same. :rotfl: Does not mean that there is or was some truth in it. If Boeing goes really low on some USA customers,...

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by Stitch
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo
Replies: 95
Views: 14959

Re: Airbus formally list 251t A330neo

The assumption has been the A330neo would be cheaper because it is based on an established design, but as has been noted, Boeing has significantly reduced the production cost of the 787 and it has generally been a more capable airframe for most of their respective RFPs. So even if it costs Boeing mo...

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by Stitch
Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:17 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery
Replies: 1609
Views: 119850

Re: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery

Looks like issues with the Centerline Drogue System supplied by Cobham needs additional work to complete FAA certification and the head of Air Mobility Command said that until it is fixed "the KC-46A is not acceptable". Cobham estimates it will cost $52 million to complete the work and Boe...

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by Stitch
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2796
Views: 339663

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

And it's not like it hurts Boeing to offer four models of MAX, since they're all interchangeable on the FAL.

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by Stitch
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future
Replies: 217
Views: 27928

Re: A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future

I do not believe that this is true for the 748. Boeing isnt making money hand over fist but they arent paying out of pocket to keep the line going, especially since the UPS order and now the latest few. So there is no incentive to shut the line down and keep it available for potential orders. I exp...

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by Stitch
Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 787 In Service Thread 2018
Replies: 68
Views: 9401

Re: 787 In Service Thread 2018

george77300 wrote:
Well the passenger numbers I’m skeptical. That makes an average LF of 234/236 or 99% which seems very high.


Advance bookings six months out were reported to be very strong per Qantas so it's possible initial demand was that high. Whether or not they can sustain that year-round...

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by Stitch
Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.
Replies: 288
Views: 19884

Re: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.

I talked about if the deferred cost only. They are 24 billions USD of the 61 billion USD inventory. Do you count them as a real inventory that has worth still to be realised? I would be inclined to say "no" since the airframes have been delivered to customers, so the frames are no longer ...

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by Stitch
Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.
Replies: 288
Views: 19884

Re: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.

Are the shown profits of Boeing from the start of the production of the 787 inflated or not, by program for cost accounting? Yes. And most, if not all people who have involved themselves in this...discussion...have stated as such. Are the deferred losses stored as inventory a real inventory? A sign...

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by Stitch
Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.
Replies: 288
Views: 19884

Re: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.

Like a few others here have said, if you think Boeing is cheating the investors with program accounting, you should take it up with IRS and SEC, and not on this forum. They've already been sued by individual investors (who dropped the suit soon after filing) and investigated by the SEC (which faile...

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by Stitch
Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.
Replies: 288
Views: 19884

Re: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.

If you people do except that the 787 seriously compromised the profitability of Boeing and only program for cost accounting allowed Boeing to show reasonable profits the years since the 787 has been produced I will stay quiet. I've been posting Boeing's (IFRS-approved) Unit Cost Accounting numbers ...

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by Stitch
Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.
Replies: 288
Views: 19884

Re: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.

If you want to understand why we go through this s**t every quarter, some Airbus Aficionados who have no clue about real-world accounting principles get upset when some Boeing Boosters who also have no clue about real-world accounting principles diss Airbus' quarterly financials in comparison to Boe...

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by Stitch
Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.
Replies: 288
Views: 19884

Re: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.

If the 787 after having produced 500 frames with a loss, would now not make a profit on single frames to start chipping at the mountain of accumulated losses, AKA deferred cost, it would be catastrophic. Yea it would. But frames are now making money and will be doing so for hundreds, perhaps thousa...

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by Stitch
Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.
Replies: 288
Views: 19884

Re: Reduction of 787 deferred production cost slows.

If your equity goes negative you own less than you owe. Your assets do not cover your liabilities. And that is only an issue if all of your creditors call in their debt at the same time. Which is clearly not going to happen with Boeing because it would not be in the creditors' interests to do so wh...

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by Stitch
Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Airbus A380 parked amid search for new operator
Replies: 353
Views: 114094

Re: First Airbus A380 parked amid search for new operator

Revelation wrote:
Aircellist wrote:
Maybe Tarbes is selected in want of a miracle? :duck:

It will take a LOT of "holy water" to cleanse an A380! :biggrin:


MH's birds could stand getting some cleansing with any type of water based on recent pictures... :cheeky:

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by Stitch
Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas considering 777-8 or A359ULR to replace 744ER's to fly SYD-JFK and SYD-LHR non-stop
Replies: 897
Views: 184816

Re: Qantas considering 777-8 or A359ULR to replace 744ER's to fly SYD-JFK and SYD-LHR non-stop

It is still a strange statement. If there would be used, will be able to instead of can already, it would make sense. You seem also to have a problem with distinguishing between present and future. Common sense should make it clear that Boeing is stating that the 777-8 has the modeled performance t...

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by Stitch
Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas considering 777-8 or A359ULR to replace 744ER's to fly SYD-JFK and SYD-LHR non-stop
Replies: 897
Views: 184816

Re: Qantas considering 777-8 or A359ULR to replace 744ER's to fly SYD-JFK and SYD-LHR non-stop

The airline manufacturer says that the 777-8 – the long-range member of the 777X family, compared to the larger 777-9 – can already make direct flights from Sydney to London. AS there is no 777-8 build much less flying, this makes a very strange statement. Indeed, since neither Boeing nor Airbus do...

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by Stitch
Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx Equipment Update
Replies: 42
Views: 6448

Re: FedEx Equipment Update

b747400erf wrote:
FX could be angry at 5X for prolonging the 748 line, making better deals on 77Fs less likely.


Boeing has been cutting 777 production due to a lack of orders to support the 777 to 777X switchover so I am sure Boeing would be happy to make FX a deal on more 777Fs.

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by Stitch
Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas to take delivery of 1st 787-9 this Tuesday (17 Oct), next route for 787-9 may be announced this week
Replies: 158
Views: 19307

Re: Qantas to take delivery of 1st 787-9 this Tuesday (17 Oct), next route for 787-9 may be announced this week

ikolkyo wrote:
I have to say, I don’t really care about seat width as I can’t tell the difference like all the other seat experts on this site but those Y seats look wider than other 787 operators.


The space between them is pretty good, as well, which could help.

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by Stitch
Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. House of Representatives votes to block aircraft sales to Iran
Replies: 46
Views: 9520

Re: U.S. House of Representatives votes to block aircraft sales to Iran

https://leehamnews.com/2017/10/16/trump-decertifies-iran-nuke-deal-throws-airbus-boeing-orders-doubt/ President Donald Trump announced Friday he will decertify the Iran nuclear deal, throwing into doubt a host of related commercial deals, including huge aircraft orders. Which means it now goes to t...

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by Stitch
Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Where does China Southern Airlines fly their A380s?
Replies: 32
Views: 7580

Re: Where does China Southern Airlines fly their A380s?

As qf789 said, mostly CAN-PEK and CAN-LAX. Doesn't seem the best fleet utilization in the industry. Yes fleet utilization reported by CAPA is pretty poor (8 hours on CAN-LAX/PEK and 12 hours when SYD is added on the seasonal schedule). They originally wanted to use the plane on PEK-JFK, but were de...

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by Stitch
Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas to take delivery of 1st 787-9 this Tuesday (17 Oct), next route for 787-9 may be announced this week
Replies: 158
Views: 19307

Re: Qantas to take delivery of 1st 787-9 this Tuesday (17 Oct), next route for 787-9 may be announced this week

However, the caveat here is that the A380 does carry more First Class seats, so if QF can command a price premium, then the revenue generated by 1 A380 flight may still offset any cost delta over the 2 x 787 flights. I am guessing Qantas is not installing First on these 787's because the cabin is n...

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by Stitch
Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas to take delivery of 1st 787-9 this Tuesday (17 Oct), next route for 787-9 may be announced this week
Replies: 158
Views: 19307

Re: Qantas to take delivery of 1st 787-9 this Tuesday (17 Oct), next route for 787-9 may be announced this week

Speedalive wrote:
The plane can do PER-LHR but can’t do direct to Australia from PAE on a delivery flight? Am I missing something?


I imagine it's for PR purposes - the plane is on the ground in HNL close to 9 hours.

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by Stitch
Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx Equipment Update
Replies: 42
Views: 6448

Re: FedEx Equipment Update

Considering that the A310s are much older and there are so few in the fleet I expect them to be gone sometime soon. The A310-300F will fly as far as an MD-10F will (albeit with a fair bit less payload volume and a lot less payload weight) whereas an A300 has only about 2/3rd's the range so perhaps ...

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by Stitch
Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:48 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery
Replies: 1609
Views: 119850

Re: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery

One of the thing always mentioned is the fact that the USAF has a large dedicated tanker fleet and a large cargo fleet, so the need for a multi-role tanker is minimal compared to other countries, ok, I get that. Now without having to review all the old tanker threads, the reason for the a/c to have...

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by Stitch
Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing delivers the 100th 767-300 Freighter
Replies: 10
Views: 3716

Re: Boeing delivers the 100th 767-300 Freighter

According to Atlas the used 767 market is going dry and they are looking into the A330P2F market. We’ll see what happens going forward. The issue with the A330 freighter - new or converted - is the physical footprint is larger than their MD-10 / A300 / A310 (mainly the wingspan). So an A330 freight...

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by Stitch
Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing delivers the 100th 767-300 Freighter
Replies: 10
Views: 3716

Re: Boeing delivers the 100th 767-300 Freighter

The 767 program celebrated a major milestone when the 100th 767-300 Freighter was delivered to FedEx earlier this month. Other than USAF Tanker Program are there any viable customers/operators around the world interested in this frame? FedEx still has 63 frames scheduled for delivery as the MD-10F ...

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by Stitch
Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx Equipment Update
Replies: 42
Views: 6448

Re: FedEx Equipment Update

Interesting the Airbuses are getting the boot....could Fedex be getting pressured by Trump's "Buy American" mantra? No, Fedex made their future fleet decisions long before Trump. Indeed, they placed their first 767F order in December 2011. The 767 offers more volume, more payload weight a...

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by Stitch
Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MH to place order for 25 widebodies by end of 2017
Replies: 266
Views: 59888

Re: MH to place order for 25 widebodies by end of 2017

Sounds reasonable, but I still do not understand why they are interested in the proposed longer range version of the NEO if they intend to sign the 789 MOU. Well the current focus of MAB is North Asia (China, Korea and Japan) and that market is perfect for the A330-900. However CEO Bellew did note ...

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by Stitch
Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:36 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Inflight Refueling Deleted from AF-1 Replacement
Replies: 57
Views: 5123

Re: Inflight Refueling Deleted from AF-1 Replacement

Again - but the 6000nm and 12+ hours behind you doesn't mean squat if it hits the fan near the end of a trip when you have no choice but to stay airborne. It's there for THE worst case scenario. But the worse case scenario today is different than it was 30 years ago when the VC-25 RFP was issued. T...

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by Stitch
Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MH to place order for 25 widebodies by end of 2017
Replies: 266
Views: 59888

Re: MH to place order for 25 widebodies by end of 2017

I believe the 787 fiasco was all PM Najib Razak showing off to Donald Trump as the DOJ has named him as a crook! I believe the MOU with Boeing will not be firmed up as the A350 will do the same job and as mentioned, delivery is expected soon. Well if the 787 MoU was designed to get the USDOJ off Ra...

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by Stitch
Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2796
Views: 339663

Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

I think Dubai is still too early for a launch. They will probably launch with a half dozen airlines committing to it, and I think it is too early for that. Agreed Dubai doesn't really make any sense. The 777X launched there because ME airlines were by far the largest customers for the type. Unless ...

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by Stitch
Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:34 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Report: USAF to buy Transaero NTU 747-8s for Air Force One
Replies: 226
Views: 28029

Re: Report: USAF to buy Transaero NTU 747-8s for Air Force One

The tanker debacle and the Presidential Helicopter debacle proved how corrupt and thoroughly broken the US bidding process was, and is. Airbus decided to lodge a high profile protest by not bidding. Let us not forget both the tanker debacle (NG/EADS) and the Presidential Helicopter debacle (LM/Agus...

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by Stitch
Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 159265

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

Wasn’t there a UFO order for 75 737 MAX 8 at PAS 2017? I wonder if that turned out to be Jet Airways and are now converting it to the MAX 10? Or did we already find out who was behind that. Only 75 frame MAX order in the past two years was for GECAS on 28 December 2016. SpiceJet took 100 two days l...

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by Stitch
Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders
Replies: 645
Views: 159265

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2017 Orders

mffoda wrote:
Jet Airways added 75 737 Max 10's to there existing order...


Sounds like this will be a new order once the paperwork is signed. There are no direct UFO orders for 75 frames, though there is a 50 frame UFO from 22 September and a number of large UFO orders in March.

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by Stitch
Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Asia may swap entire a330neo order to a350
Replies: 148
Views: 28249

Re: Air Asia may swap entire a330neo order to a350

SYDSpotter wrote:
If they do swap the A330's for the A350's, would they go 10 abreast on the A350's given they currently squeeze 9 abreast on their A330's?


They could and I expect they would.

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by Stitch
Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2796
Views: 339663

Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

What I can't quite understand is what justifies a totally new airframe with 220-270 max seating vs the existing 787-8 which seats 240-360 max... Scores of thousands of kilograms less weight is what justifies it. The 787-8 has an OEM OEW of 118,000kg. I expect MoM to come in around the 85,000 kilogr...

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by Stitch
Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. House of Representatives votes to block aircraft sales to Iran
Replies: 46
Views: 9520

Re: U.S. House of Representatives votes to block aircraft sales to Iran

As I understand it, even if the President decertifies the agreement, it just throws it back to the Congress to decide whether or not they wish to impose new sanctions - including sanctions against selling commercial aircraft and commercial aircraft components to Iran. So it sounds like a decertific...

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by Stitch
Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X - Updated Information And Developments
Replies: 2650
Views: 255526

Re: Boeing 777X - Updated Information And Developments

Are the windows themselves actually bigger, or is Boeing going for the porthole effect where the inner pane is larger than the actual window opening a la the A380 to give the impression that the windows are larger? The windows are actually bigger. To play devil's advocate, we don't actually know if...

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