noviorbis77 wrote:Is there any reason why the shell could not be used as an artificial reef as some (retired) aircraft have been?
I noticed that that the fifth 787, N787FT is now being scrapped. What is going to happen to the plane once it is scrapped? Will it go to the garbage dump or become something else. The materials recovered will at least in part be used on other 787s. Boeing turned 787 manufacturing scrap into usable ...Jump to post
If the 767 operations of the last 30 years mean anything, an average 2 hours is about right. And that includes the ER versions that can do 6000NM. Considering how many 767s did TATL and Mainland-Hawaii services in their career, I doubt "two hours" was the average stage length of an averag...Jump to post
I see a strong drive towards a range of 5000NM or even more for NMA. IMO that risks building an aircraft that is way to heavy to be competitive on the bulk of flights. I think it should be optimized, or at least be very efficient for flights of around 2hrs / 1000NM. If that is where the product is ...Jump to post
Well the 777-300ER is a "gas guzzling hog" compared to more modern airliner families (the delta is around 20% to the A350-1000, which is about twice what the delta between the A340-600 and 777-300ER was) so as the A350-1000 and 777-9 enter serial production we should start seeing significa...Jump to post
Neither the 737-800BCF nor the A321-200P2F are really "great" options. The A321 will offer about 87% of the volume and 69% of the payload weight, whereas the 738 is at 77% and 62%, respectively.
As such, the best replacement for a 757P2F is, frankly, another 757P2F.
So were the restrictions dropped as safety is not compromised or because airlines said it would cost them more financially? A fine line exist between the two extremes. As noted, the use of the word "dropped" refers to having been published, not that any previously present operating restri...Jump to post
So why is it that Boeing just doesn't revive the 787-3? It was supposed to be a replacement for 767 and 757. It had the range for US to Europe and good for domestic US use. Because the 787-8 is as good or better beyond 250nm. Boeing would need to invest significantly into weight reduction and optim...Jump to post
JayinKitsap wrote:A quick thought, both AA and HA have selected GE engines, are the problems facing RR for reliability enough to flip the selection to the 787 as the 330 and 350 both are RR only.
Is the A332 vs. B764 competition the only (major) instance of better belly cargo capacity being the primary determinant (for at least one operator) in selecting one airframe over the other? IIRC, several operators with existing B763 fleets chose the A332, rather than the B764, for the A332's belly ...Jump to post
I'm not convinced that these restrictions will have as much of an impact as many people seem to think. There can't be that many routes that the affected aircraft are currently being used on that will be impossible to operate with ETOPS140... ETOPS-140 could have an impact on some TPAC operations. A...Jump to post
The article states that Boeing (and Airbus) are not (just) buying raw titanium ingots from Russia, but (also) machined aerospace parts made from titanium. So beyond just the material, Boeing would need to source the machined part, as well. So that could complicate matters in terms of "easy"...Jump to post
I always understood that when an airline orders an aircraft, it pays a deposit to the aircraft manufacturer at that time. If the airline subsequently cancels their order, they loose that deposit. The sales contract between the OEM and the Airline will spell out what the conditions of a breach of sa...Jump to post
The original MoU placed in 2011 was for 42 787-9s with 58 options, contingent on AA and ALPA coming to an agreement on adding the 787 to their existing labor contract. As part of that MoU, AA had a "strike date" for each of the frames that they were required to confirm 18 months prior to a...Jump to post
Theoretically if you made the base of an an LD3-45 wider - from 62" to 98", and assume the internal depth is about 56" (outside depth 60" or about two rows), and with about 41" internal height - you pick up 82,656 Cu In of Volume. A standard Airline bag has max linear dimen...Jump to post
To me it sounds like AA exercised their purchase rights based on 2013 order. Many people here claim that AA didn't used their options and I disagree that. The use of the word "amended" implies that this is based on the original 2011 purchase agreement. So it could just be a case of Corpor...Jump to post
Does anyone think at one point Max deliveries exceed Neo deliveries ? I'm going to hazard a guess that will be a "no" considering the A320neo started deliveries in 2016 compared to 2017 for the MAX, delivered over 3 times as many frames last year (as the neo had a full year of deliveries)...Jump to post
Some 767s in the 900s have been going to freighter conversion. UA brought 3 767s from HA; I am surprised that they didn't try harder for the 767s that ANA, JAL, and LATAM are letting go. Having retired from United recently I can tell you this. Their fleet acquisition people and engineering people a...Jump to post
mjoelnir wrote:Anyway, what serious test incident happened in Australia with the boom?
So are there actual delivery slots in place for the MH 789s? The MoU likely includes production slots, though they would be based on a production quarter and not a specific slot (so "first quarter 2020"). There would also probably be a "use it or lose it" clause where MH would n...Jump to post
And the MAX-7 is around 2 meters longer than the -300 / -700.Jump to post
sovietjet wrote:Consider this a silly question, but why did they decide to make things overly complicated by removing the boom window and adding a camera?
Most 787-9 specific parts are not lighter, they are stronger and heavier. The 787-9 did undergo a significant optimization of the weight of many of it's components which resulted in an overall reduction in the aircraft's empty weight. The 787-8 started incorporating many of those weight-optimized p...Jump to post
More aggressive? Different messages in US news channels: In a trade war, US aviation giant Boeing could be a sitting duck "Unfortunately, Boeing makes an easy target for anyone wishing to retaliate against the new US trade measures," Mr Richard Aboulafia, vice-president of analysis at Tea...Jump to post
Boeing posted it's monthly update, it's very interesting. Revenue Recognition Accounting Standard ASC 606 Information During the first quarter of 2018, Boeing adopted a new revenue recognition accounting standard (ASC 606) which, among other things, imposes additional criteria for recognizing cont...Jump to post
And yet Singapore Airlines and SCOOT can fit 18" seats into their 787s at 3x3x3 despite Boeing's villainy... :scratchchin: Non sequitur. What is the armrest width? What is the aisle width? Something always gives when you travel with Boeing comfort standards. Mind you I never had any problems f...Jump to post
If structural weight is taken out of the 787-8, that would reduce the zero fuel weight. With no other changes, it would be able to carry more fuel with the same maximum weights as the 787-8. Yes, but you would need to pull upwards of 7,000kg just to match the difference in fuel a 787-9 can load at ...Jump to post
From what I've read, the 787-8 had excess weight compared to the 787-9. Just substituting lighter weight 787-9 parts on 787-8's should improve the performance of the 787-8 without having to increase the gross weight of the 787-8 to 787-9 weights. While all 787 models have the same available fuel vo...Jump to post
Another advantage is that the lightenened 787-8 is likely to have even longer maximum range than the 787-9. Only if Boeing raises the operating weights of the 787-8 to match the 787-9. As yet, there seems to be no plan to do this (and I don't think there is a need considering ULH capability does no...Jump to post
Is the African market capable of supporting premium heavy configurations? Some of the market is. Nigeria is a major oil producer so I could see AA being able to support a premium-heavy non-stop service between Texas and Nigeria catering to oil company traffic. I am amused by how some people will tr...Jump to post
greenair727 wrote:47 787's for $12B. So does that mean the average price of one is $255M?
By tail, do you meen up to the first body joint, which includes the simplified tail planes (item #2) and the HSFC system (item #4), or something less? A simpler and lighter cockpit structure (item #7) could also be good. The 787-8 now incorporates the lighter cockpit structure (since around LN130)....Jump to post
Very interesting in American’s big order with Boeing for 47- 788/89s which can fly 242 passengers up to 7,355 nautical miles (13,620 km) in a typical two-class configuration, while 789, a stretch of the 787-8, can fly 290 passengers up to 7,635 nautical miles There was no mention of future plans to...Jump to post
I don’t think the 797 would be optimized for 4000nm, but rather it will be capable of 4000nm. "Capable" won't cut it - especially against the A321-200LR, which is "capable" of 4000nm, but not "optimized" for it (due to payload restrictions necessary to tank the volume ...Jump to post
Armodeen wrote:I’m guessing he means in regards to performance rather than seating capacity.
Why doesn't Boeing go ahead and put in the optimizations developed for the 787-9 into the 787-8? Boeing has done just that and is now going to use the same aft fuselage (Sections 47/48) on the 787-8 and they do on the 787-9 and 787-10. The 788 doesn't make a hood replacement for the 763, it's close...Jump to post
UA has been said to be very interested in NMA / MoM and were also said to have been looking at new-build 767-300ERs as interim lift until NMA was available. So assuming NMA does become a thing in the near future and UA is still interested in it when it does, that could lessen the interest in additio...Jump to post
I can't speak for the RR deal, but I have seen the original contract between US and Airbus for the A350XWB and American cancelled their A350 order far enough in advance that they could do so without incurring any penalties for doing so. I doubt American would have negotiated a new contract that was ...Jump to post
Deferring the MAXs. This tells me that AA is getting nervous about the economy and may be scaling back new narrowbody fleet acquisitions in favor of holding onto what's owned a bit longer. If you are worried about the economy, you don't drop $12 billion (at list) on four dozen new widebody aircraft...Jump to post
MoKa777 wrote:I mean to ask, before the cancellation, was that order initially deferred? If it was deferred at some point before being cancelled today, for when were deliveries tentatively planned?
I'm more impressed with how this story all broke with the website update, the deletion, then the hurried announcement on a Friday afternoon. I'd love to know the backstory on this one..... It was clear the deal was timed to be announced by both parties after the NASDAQ had closed (which is when the...Jump to post
N415XJ wrote:Sorry if this is being discussed somewhere else: